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Seahawks-Steelers game will have a familiar referee

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There’s nothing like picking at an old scar to generate some page views.

When the Seahawks visit the Steelers on Sunday in Pittsburgh, the same man who served as the referee for Super Bowl XL will be wearing the white hat.

Bill Leavy, the man whom many Seahawks fan believe should be wearing a shirt that has not black and white stripes but black and yellow, has gotten the assignment, per Danny O’Neil of the Seattle Times.

“I kicked two calls in the fourth quarter, and I impacted the game,” Leavy admitted in August 2010. “And as an official, you never want to do that.”

Someone has a great sense of humor.  Or, as Seahawks fans would likely put it, a very sick one.

For the Steelers, it’ll be a trip down memory lane, to a time when everyone thought the franchise had the league office in its back pocket, instead of the current perception that the NFL is constantly trying to get into the Steelers’ wallets.

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  1. 6the6ringedsteelerslolatyouremptylittletrophycase7 says: Sep 13, 2011 1:11 PM

    They will try their best to win the Seahawks the game. It won’t work. We will win big and march through the rest of the league too. Be afraid.

  2. trbowman says: Sep 13, 2011 1:13 PM

    Or the NFL decided it would have rather seen a franchise like Pittsburgh win the bowl, not a nondescript one like Seattle.

  3. shaggytoodle says: Sep 13, 2011 1:14 PM

    I don’t care about the Steelers very much, but the whole such and such game was fixed… gets old.

    As they say in the commercials… Here we go

  4. derekjetersmansion says: Sep 13, 2011 1:14 PM

    That’s pretty nuts.

  5. ryanclark25 says: Sep 13, 2011 1:14 PM

    oh this post could get fun…:D

  6. joetoronto says: Sep 13, 2011 1:15 PM

    I still can’t believe how bad Seattle got burned that day, that was highway robbery.

    And my money was on the Steelers, by the way.

  7. sojumaster says: Sep 13, 2011 1:15 PM

    Goodell Sucks!!

    The refs are already under a magnifing glass week after week with the consistantly BAD calls, and the league creates this train wreck???

    Maybe Goodell has really lost his mind.

  8. twitter:Chapman_Jamie says: Sep 13, 2011 1:16 PM

    “For the Steelers, it’ll be a trip down memory lane, to a time when everyone thought the franchise had the league office in its back pocket, instead of the current perception that the NFL is constantly trying to get into the Steelers’ wallets.”

    No we still believe it.

  9. 66rick says: Sep 13, 2011 1:18 PM

    oh, crap. maybe they’ll just have to beat the seahawks with ANOTHER 75 yard TD run…or maybe ANOTHER wr touchdown pass. hey seattle, YOU HAVE TO OVERCOME. and ps, you are allowed to play a little defense.

  10. dino2997 says: Sep 13, 2011 1:18 PM

    Steeler fans will never admit it but they got extremely lucky to win that super bowl. I’m not a Seahawks fan nor a Steelers hater but it’s fact.

  11. rooter1973 says: Sep 13, 2011 1:19 PM

    No Shaun Alexander, Matt Hasselbeck, Darrel Jackson, Lofa Tatupu…….doesn’t matter.

  12. Tyler says: Sep 13, 2011 1:21 PM

    Oh boy.. this should be interesting..

  13. snowpea84 says: Sep 13, 2011 1:21 PM

    That super bowl was a joke. Talk about a Victory needing an asterisk

  14. gtmann says: Sep 13, 2011 1:21 PM

    That’s just not very smart. I hope their security is better than it was at the Jets agme.

  15. johnnycamparm says: Sep 13, 2011 1:22 PM

    BLAH BLAH BLAH…..

  16. broncobeta says: Sep 13, 2011 1:23 PM

    “…that the NFL is constantly trying to get into the Steelers’ wallets.”

    It’s called the fixed-referee tax.

  17. peytonwantsaflag says: Sep 13, 2011 1:24 PM

    “For the Steelers, it’ll be a trip down memory lane, to a time when everyone thought the franchise had the league office in its back pocket, instead of the current perception that the NFL is constantly trying to get into the Steelers’ wallets.”

    Bull – apples and oranges – first of all everyone outside of Pitt KNOWS they had the league in their back pocket. And NOW the only people that perceive an anti-pitt bias are those IN Pitt.

  18. fijabbersman345 says: Sep 13, 2011 1:25 PM

    Ruh roh.

  19. mybuttsayspft says: Sep 13, 2011 1:25 PM

    “to a time when everyone thought the franchise had the league office in its back pocket”

    Has that time changed? I’d take fines fom the league any day if it means they’ll give my team a superbowl.

  20. iflounder says: Sep 13, 2011 1:25 PM

    is stevie wonder going to sing the anthem before the game too?

  21. cosanostra71 says: Sep 13, 2011 1:27 PM

    I don’t understand how this guy is still employed after admitting he screwed up.

  22. vahawker says: Sep 13, 2011 1:27 PM

    Hawks may match their worst yards from scrimmage record (-7 ) with this young O-line, TJack holding the ball forever, and Steelers pzzzzzd about their pathetic display against the Ravens.

  23. benh999 says: Sep 13, 2011 1:30 PM

    At least he admits it. Better than the ones who come up with convoluted equivocations.

  24. wcucarter says: Sep 13, 2011 1:30 PM

    I am by no means a Seahawks fan or even a supporter of theirs, but the refs did leave their mark on that game and clearly affected the outcome.

  25. stillerborn says: Sep 13, 2011 1:33 PM

    6 Rings remembers that it was the day he first experienced indoor plumbing (albeit at a Waffle House).

  26. ticalcaldwell says: Sep 13, 2011 1:33 PM

    That is YOUR perception about the NFL having a biased view of the Steelers….Not ours…No one on Earth feels sorry for the steelers but steelers fans. Your arrogance has isolated your team and your fan-base……

  27. mswravens says: Sep 13, 2011 1:35 PM

    Just for the record…Seahawks fans aren’t the only ones who thought that game was fixed!

  28. dukemarc says: Sep 13, 2011 1:36 PM

    Nothing like rubbing the ‘Hawks nose it in, huh NFL?

  29. kevinfromphilly says: Sep 13, 2011 1:39 PM

    Man, if the line wasn’t two TDs +, I’d bet the house on Pittsburgh this week.

  30. steelfla says: Sep 13, 2011 1:41 PM

    NFL dictator Kim Jong Goodell personally assigned Leavy to screw over the Steelers.

  31. damnskins703 says: Sep 13, 2011 1:42 PM

    He is the reason why Seattle lost the super bowl

  32. 3octaveFart says: Sep 13, 2011 1:53 PM

    Seahags fans are still trying to overtake the Ratbirds fans as crybabies of the NFL I see…
    The game’s over, you lost, get over it.

  33. hilamonster says: Sep 13, 2011 1:55 PM

    I’m a Seahawks fan and I’m over this crap. Enough of the Super Bowl that was.

    It is 2011 and our team stinks and I have a feeling we’re going to get our butts whipped by the Steelers after they got smoked by the Ravens.

    Pittsburgh 38
    Seattle 10

    Carrol can only do so much of pom-pom waving. We’ll have a QB controversy by week 4 if we keep this up. 4-12 season for the Hawks.

  34. footballfan71 says: Sep 13, 2011 1:56 PM

    I am not a Steelers or Seahawks fan, but there were many questionable calls – no one can deny that – even Steelers fans. The biggest one that sticks in my mind is where Rothlisburger is tacked and downed at the 1-yd line but he moves the ball over the goal line and they called it a TD. huh?? Admission of guilt later sure, but c’mon. The refs have to do better and not let the calls effect the outcome.

  35. joeinoh says: Sep 13, 2011 1:57 PM

    EVERYONE thought that Super Bowl was fixed. The Pittspuke fans will just never admit to it. Those official’s calls should have had the FBI investigating.

  36. albanyhawker says: Sep 13, 2011 2:00 PM

    True, the Seahawks gave up a 75 yard TD run, but the Steelers would never have been in position for that WR option pass had they not gotten great field position due to the admitted blown call on the Hasselbeck tackle.

    Which by the way, came from an INT that he threw being so frustrated by the earlier admitted blown call of the phantom hold, which negated a completion to the Steeler 1 yard line.

    That sure TD, and the one they screwed D-Jack out of would have had the Seahawks ahead on the scoreboard and coasting to victory.

    And the Seahawks DID play defense, leading in every statistical category. Just ask Big Ben and his 22.3 QB rating for the day.

    But yes, the Seahawks should have maintained their composure and toughed out the win IN SPITE of the one-sided officiating.

  37. stampnhawk says: Sep 13, 2011 2:01 PM

    In addition to the 4th quarter calls, the offensive PI call on Jackson in the first was the worst of them all. Add the dubious call on the Rothelsberger td dive late in the second on third down, and even the most neutral observer could smell the stench. Levy’s second Seattle game since that may include some makeup calls but too little too late and not likely to help the shaky offensive attack Sea has.

  38. medtxpack says: Sep 13, 2011 2:02 PM

    Steelers beat two NFC west teams in the Super Bowl. Can you get any luckier?

  39. marvelsmith420 says: Sep 13, 2011 2:10 PM

    It’s a joke that this even has to be discussed again. Go back and look at the calls the media and Seahawks fans were complaining about and try to look at it objectively. The offensive pass interference call was so blatant that it would have been a crime not to call it. Same with the Locklear hold.

    You could argue that Ben should have been ruled down on the one inch line instead of scoring his rushing TD but once it was ruled a touchdown on the field it was basically impossible to overturn the call because there was no conclusive evidence on the replay that he didn’t make it into the endzone. So, considering the call on the field was a TD the refs made the right decision on the booth review.

    So basically all Seahawks fans have is one questionable touchdown call to complain about and if you take it away the Steelers still win. Anything else they bitch about is just sour grapes. Sorry, just because it’s the Super Bowl doesn’t mean your receivers are allowed to push off in the endzone or that your linemen are allowed to hold the opposing team’s linebackers.

  40. getyourownname says: Sep 13, 2011 2:10 PM

    Well, this makes loads of sense (not a steeler or SH fan). Think the ref might be wary of making any calls in Pittsburgh favor? ANY close calls – plus all non-calls – now will be subjected to unending criticism. And why did Ref accept the assignment?

    Good job, NFL.

  41. etjla says: Sep 13, 2011 2:13 PM

    I have watched this game a few times and there are a few non-penalty calls as well on the Seahawks that should have been made. No one ever mentions this. The big thing is that the Steelers overcame any mistakes they made…Seattle did not.

  42. shaggytoodle says: Sep 13, 2011 2:14 PM

    cosanostra71 says:
    Sep 13, 2011 1:27 PM
    I don’t understand how this guy is still employed after admitting he screwed up.
    ____________________________

    Obviously you have never made a mistake, and owned it.

  43. kingofthenorth92 says: Sep 13, 2011 2:15 PM

    This reminds me of the ’09 NFC Championship game in overtime where the Saints got every call their way and ball measurements were always favorable for New Orleans. Admittedly the Vikings screwed themselves in that game but it did seem that the NFL almost wanted the feel-good team coming back from destruction (NO) in the super bowl over the small-market Minnesota team.

    Though Seattle may have been unfairly hit in the Super Bowl, they still had ample opportunites to win the game but didn’t capitalize whereas Pittsburgh did. I’m not a Steelers fan but it’s pointless to bring up a game that occurred five years ago and complain about the refs.

  44. chrismatthewsucks says: Sep 13, 2011 2:23 PM

    Man that seattle team got screwed… I remeber laughung on how pathetic Ben played and they were manhandled as the 4th quaryer hit i was shocked the steelers were winning. It was all about Betis!!

  45. udontknowjaq says: Sep 13, 2011 2:39 PM

    Play better in the game than the refs, ref the game

  46. Steeler's Will says: Sep 13, 2011 2:42 PM

    dino2997 says:
    Sep 13, 2011 1:18 PM
    Steeler fans will never admit it but they got extremely lucky to win that super bowl. I’m not a Seahawks fan nor a Steelers hater but it’s fact.
    ———————-
    Nothing wrong with luck. I don’t see why I should hang my head in shame just because the game wasn’t a blowout. Heck the Seahawks were lucky to be in the game.

  47. dickroy says: Sep 13, 2011 2:44 PM

    What was the bad call in that game? I didn’t see one.

  48. frankrizzo51 says: Sep 13, 2011 2:47 PM

    How long ago was that game?

  49. docredskin says: Sep 13, 2011 2:54 PM

    Steeler fans are generally among the most annoying in the league.

  50. Deb says: Sep 13, 2011 2:58 PM

    @mswravens …

    It’s unfathomable to me that someone with your intelligence actually believes the NFL and/or the officials fixed that game. Most conspiracy theories–including this one–can be explained by one word: incompetence.

    The officiating in that game was pathetic–and bad calls went against both the Seahawks and the Steelers. Any knowledgeable football fan reviewing that game play by play will see the Steelers would have won anyway. But the bigger story is that six years later the NFL still hasn’t addressed its officiating problems. In fact, they’re worse.

  51. steelersmichele says: Sep 13, 2011 2:59 PM

    I don’t blame spygate for my team losing to the Patriots all those AFC games. I blame the players for not making enough plays to get the win. So I don’t understand why people are blaming the refs for Seattle’s loss.

    There are always bad throws, dropped passes, missed tackles, bad blocks–those things lose games.

    I should also include 7 turnovers.

  52. Deb says: Sep 13, 2011 3:00 PM

    damnskins703 says:

    He is the reason why Seattle lost the super bowl

    ————————————————

    Yeah … all those dropped passes, missed field goals, giving up the longest TD run from scrimmage in SB history, and falling for a trick TD play had nothing to do with it. :roll:

    Just keep telling yourself that, baby. But the trophy will stay with us.

  53. monsterscream says: Sep 13, 2011 3:01 PM

    Someone has a great sense of humor. Or, as Seahawks fans would likely put it, a very sick one.

    No way….The Seahawks have FANS?!?!?

  54. facebookuser111 says: Sep 13, 2011 3:04 PM

    Only the most embittered and kooky Seahawk fan believes the game was fixed. Bad calls sure, bad play sure, but believing some vast conspiracy cost the Hawks a win just makes Seahawk fans look like crying morons.

    That was a great season for the Hawks and I just take it how it was, two good teams playing ugly games and the ref’s having a horrible game too.

    If either the Steelers or Seahawks played how they were playing all season, the ref’s would have been a sidenote. Just because both teams played so badly that a couple bad calls seemed to decide the game doesnt mean the fix is in.

  55. johntonioholmes says: Sep 13, 2011 3:06 PM

    “For the Steelers, it’ll be a trip down memory lane, to a time when everyone thought the franchise had the league office in its back pocket, instead of the current perception that the NFL is constantly trying to get into the Steelers’ wallets.”

    Yeah right. There were at least 5 major holding penalties in that game that went unnoticed. The only really bad call (aside from the non-calls) was the unsportsmanlike on Hasselbeck. Everything else was text-book.

  56. 6the6ringedsteelerslolatyouremptylittletrophycase7GAYNESS says: Sep 13, 2011 3:09 PM

    Seahawks 24
    Steelers 20

  57. johntonioholmes says: Sep 13, 2011 3:11 PM

    @kingofthenorth92

    You got it right. I was happy for the Saints when they won the superbowl, but everyone seems to forget that they got a touchdown that was a lot like the one that was overturned in the Detroit/Chicago game last year.

    In other words, they benefited from bad officiating but no one made a peep (except maybe Indy fans).

    With that being said, there was really only one bad call in that game–the unsportsmanlike on Hasselbeck. The holding penalty, the push-off, and the other holding penalty were all text-book violations of the rules. Seattle just wasn’t good enough to overcome their own mistakes.

  58. keeponhating says: Sep 13, 2011 3:18 PM

    whats next? walt coleman is the ref for the patriots @ raiders?

  59. sdills83 says: Sep 13, 2011 3:19 PM

    Let’s not forget how the Steelers got to this game….dirty play and Kimo army craweling into Carson Palmer’s knee, which the league could not have cared any less about until it happened to Tom Brady. I’m guessing the NFL loves money making teams like Pitt and NE.

  60. bleed4philly says: Sep 13, 2011 3:20 PM

    The stealers (Freudian spelling) should just run qb sneaks all day, refs will take care of the rest.

  61. fcs34 says: Sep 13, 2011 3:22 PM

    This guy is still offciating, after booting the Super Bowl? Say what you want but the Seahawks got screwed in that game, even he admitted it. . He’s gonna have to be on top of his game to help the Steelers overcome 7 turnovers. I hope that douch Harrison is out for a while.

  62. bleed4philly says: Sep 13, 2011 3:23 PM

    @dino2997

    The stealers get lucky for every superbowl they win, thank God their luck finally ran out last year, for the time being.

  63. halftermguv says: Sep 13, 2011 3:26 PM

    The story isn’t about the ref for this Sunday’s game; it’s about Seattle coming into a very PO’d Steeler team that just got thumped by a division rival. The line is already at +13.5.

    This rehash of the Seattle-Pittsburgh superbowl routinely comes up in PFT. No secret why, it generates huge responses.

    So in that sense why is the coach of the Seahawks, Pete Carrol, immune from such headlines? After all, having to give back a national championship and Heisman trophy due to the wide spread corruption of his program should be mentioned in every Seattle Seahawks post.

  64. trickbunny says: Sep 13, 2011 3:29 PM

    After that comical, pathetic, embarrassing outing against the Ravens, it looks like the Steelers had to call in their boy for a little extra help for the next game ;)

  65. expatpatfan says: Sep 13, 2011 3:30 PM

    I don’t even like the Steelers and any reasonable person watching that game will tell you the Steelers were the better team that day. It was an amazingly uninspiring game all around, but Seattle was not pretty to watch.

  66. nickster31 says: Sep 13, 2011 3:31 PM

    dino2997 says:
    Steeler fans will never admit it but they got extremely lucky to win that super bowl. I’m not a Seahawks fan nor a Steelers hater but it’s fact.

    ***************************

    And Seahawks fans will never admit it, but had their defense actually showed up for the game, THEY would have won the Super Bowl. THAT is fact.

  67. Deb says: Sep 13, 2011 3:35 PM

    @bleed4philly …

    Bless your heart. Must be so disheartening being an Eagles fan. You look around your division and see 11 Super Bowl trophies. Then as if that weren’t difficult enough, you look across the state to Pittsburgh and see six more. No wonder you’re so bitter. That’s okay … we understand.

  68. schmitty2 says: Sep 13, 2011 3:37 PM

    I have a feeling that the one who will suffer the most from the Raven beatdown is Tarvaris Jackson

  69. unclemoobaa1911 says: Sep 13, 2011 3:39 PM

    It doesnt matter who refs the steeler game, because the refs are ALWAYS on the steelers side. No team in the NFL has more questionable touchdowns than the steelers, basically if you play for pittsburgh and you are running with the ball and cross the opponets 10 yard line its a touchdown.

  70. nickster31 says: Sep 13, 2011 3:39 PM

    stampnhawk says:

    In addition to the 4th quarter calls, the offensive PI call on Jackson in the first was the worst of them all. Add the dubious call on the Rothelsberger td dive late in the second on third down, and even the most neutral observer could smell the stench. Levy’s second Seattle game since that may include some makeup calls but too little too late and not likely to help the shaky offensive attack Sea has.

    ******************************************

    The PI call on Jackson was TEXT BOOK, are you kidding me? Honestly, watch the play, put Hines Ward in Jacksons shoes, and any Hawk in Chris Hopes shoes, and tell me you aren’t screaming for PI?

  71. Deb says: Sep 13, 2011 3:41 PM

    @sdills83 …

    Right … because it’s an automatic that the Bengals would have won that game. They’ve played in so many Super Bowls with Palmer at the helm. BTW, Carson said that hit was an accident. Guess he’s not the sore loser you are.

  72. steelnucs says: Sep 13, 2011 3:43 PM

    Stop it. Just stop it…facebookuser111, you are exactly right..

    There is no conspiracy, league is not in Steelers back pocket, all that crap is idiocy. Anyone who seriously believes that is a colossal imbecile. From what I remember, the 2 major calls against the Hawks were the offensive PI and holding. I’ll give you the PI being a very weak call to say the least. The holding call was legit.

    @medtxpack – those 2 weak NFC west teams the Steelers played beat the nfc south (panthers) and the “tough” nfc east (philly) to get to the SB.

  73. rmm1984 says: Sep 13, 2011 3:45 PM

    Oh no not the tinfoil hat conspiracy theorists again. If you want to say there were bad calls fine but to say the league fixed the game is beyond pathetic. Also, it’s not remembered because of the outcome but the head of officiating already said there were bad calls for both teams. Cry me a river Seahawks fans, oh yeah, you already have.

  74. rmm1984 says: Sep 13, 2011 3:50 PM

    From Mike Pereira:

    “Did Leavy’s calls determine the winner of Super Bowl XL? Absolutely not! In truth, there were missed calls that went against both teams.”

    “Let’s all put aside our allegiances and go back four years and look at the game objectively. If we do, we will see that the Seahawks did not play well and neither, actually, did the Steelers,” Pereira wrote, “The officials also did not have a great game. In the end, however, the team that deserved to win won.”

    One of the calls that Leavy was almost certainly referring to when he said, “I kicked two calls in the fourth quarter and I impacted the game,” was a holding call against Sean Locklear.

    When referring to that call, Pereira wrote, “It was a hold and should have been called.”

  75. steelertom says: Sep 13, 2011 3:50 PM

    If their TE could play as good as he talked they would have won. But it was the refs right? everyone seems to forget about that. and get over it. really. you team sucks. and so do the fans.

  76. dickroy says: Sep 13, 2011 3:51 PM

    Deb says:

    @bleed4philly

    Bless your heart. Must be so disheartening being an Eagles fan. You look around your division and see 11 Super Bowl trophies. Then as if that weren’t difficult enough, you look across the state to Pittsburgh and see six more. No wonder you’re so bitter. That’s okay … we understand.
    ————————————————–
    Now that was beautiful my friend.
    Worth posting twice!!

  77. rmm1984 says: Sep 13, 2011 3:53 PM

    For instance, Jerramy Stevens caught a pass, took nearly three steps before being leveled and fumbling the ball. The referees incorrectly called the fumble an incomplete pass.

    Matt Hasselbeck also fumbled the ball, but the turnover was overruled as the referees indicated Larry Foote touched him prior to that, negating the fumble.

    That’s two turnovers that didn’t go Pittsburgh’s way that should have.

    The referees missed other calls as well—a block in the back on Steelers’ QB Ben Roethlisberger after throwing an interception in the fourth quarter that would have spotted the ball deep in Seattle’s territory, likely preventing their ensuing touchdown. Or the block in the back by Sean Locklear on the Ike Taylor interception of Hasselbeck in the 4th quarter.

    You’re right Mike. Missed calls, and bad ones, hurt both teams. Unfortunately, the perception exists that only bad calls affected the Seahawks. Nothing could be further from the truth.

  78. seacolt213 says: Sep 13, 2011 3:53 PM

    Everyone saying it’s not worth complaining about is retarded… I agree, we should be over it by now, but having only one (male) Pro championship in Seattle, it’s hard to let it go…

    Everyone saying it was a fairly called game is delusional. Yes, there were missed calls in both directions as there always is, but the difference is all the missed calls that benefited the Steelers were GAME CHANGERS. TD by Ben? Illegal block by Hasselbeck? Really? I’ll conceide the D Jack push off was legitimate, but it burns when you see Hines Ward do the exact same thing two or three times in the same game with no call.

    If you’re a Steelers fan, good for you… I understand your annoyance by our complaints, however I would hope you’re not all the typical Steelers fans and have an ounce of reason in your head where you’re able to say “Yeah, they got hosed. We may not have won that game without the refs.” If you can admit that, I will remove you from the D-bag side of Steeler nation.

  79. rmm1984 says: Sep 13, 2011 3:55 PM

    Now, posting all this stuff I am in no way trying to take the argument the other way to say that the Steelers got screwed but what you have to realize is the media ran with 2 or 3 calls that went the Steelers way and everyone latched on when in reality bad calls went both ways. This is how it is in virtually every big game.

  80. steelersmichele says: Sep 13, 2011 4:02 PM

    unclemoobaa1911 says: It doesnt matter who refs the steeler game, because the refs are ALWAYS on the steelers side.

    Yeah, thank God for the refs in this last Super Bowl. If it wasn’t for them ALWAYS helping us out and giving us the game, Green Bay would have won.

  81. lukashenry says: Sep 13, 2011 4:05 PM

    The refs gave up that 75 yard TD run by Willy Parker and the Randle El TD Pass to Hines Ward too…

  82. unclemoobaa1911 says: Sep 13, 2011 4:15 PM

    You can tell a Steelers fan a mile away, but up close you cant tell them anything!

    P.S. Green Bay has 13 championships, thanks for coming out!

  83. psychoward says: Sep 13, 2011 4:19 PM

    Yawn. The ONLY questionable call was the tripping against Hasselbeck. And that was after he threw a pick! Steeler haters are my favorite.

  84. lionsfan20 says: Sep 13, 2011 4:27 PM

    Anyone who isn’t a fan of either of those teams can tell you without emotion coming into play that that game was as crooked as I’ve ever seen in a game with that much at stake.

    NO!!! Super Bowl has ever been officiated that poorly and cost a team a win.

    Sure, the SeaChickens should have made some plays to seal the deal, but the refs were like the Energizer Bunny in that game in giving Pittsburgh call after call after (important) call…

    I really didn’t care who won, but it sucked afterwards thinking that the refs decided it and that the greatest game of the year turned out to be a crock that year thanks to Leavy and Crew.

  85. 3octaveFart says: Sep 13, 2011 4:28 PM

    unclemoobaa1911 says:
    Sep 13, 2011 4:15 PM
    “P.S. Green Bay has 13 championships, thanks for coming out!”

    Most of which were simply awarded in popularity contests without the benefit of a game even being played, and before the invention of electricity.

    We’re all still so terribly impressed. :roll:

  86. o0omorriso0o says: Sep 13, 2011 4:29 PM

    Deb says:

    @bleed4philly

    Bless your heart. Must be so disheartening being an Eagles fan. You look around your division and see 11 Super Bowl trophies. Then as if that weren’t difficult enough, you look across the state to Pittsburgh and see six more. No wonder you’re so bitter. That’s okay … we understand.
    ————————————————–
    Now that was beautiful my friend.
    Worth posting twice!!
    ———————————-
    So you guys want to try and diss on Philly for not winning a single game. Lets be honest they made the SB everything. But in the end its just 1 game isnt it? The Eagles are one of the most winningest teams the past decade. And even outside of football we have the Phillies (who OWNS the Pirates), Flyers and even the 76ers who were in the playoffs. Sports wise we are doing well. Not to mention who won the last game that counted against Eagles and Steelers? Thats what I thought. I never look at the Steelers as being a good team. I think the AFC has easier teams thats just more about defense. NFC seems to be more about offense and is loaded. I just think the Eagles are the better team in the state of Pennslyvania. If you want to use past history to try and make that argument then your stupider then I thought…lol I care about the present. All you people that use the SB as a trash talking tool act as if once you win the SB that the present seasons and all future seasons never matter anymore…lol Why even watch football anymore then? See where Im coming from? So if Philly wins the SB then does that mean we are 100% promised to win every trash talking argument? 2+ years from now? Get outta here with that BS!!! Eagles > Steelers right now and thats all I care about!!! Dont care about preseason either…lol

  87. philaeagles31 says: Sep 13, 2011 4:33 PM

    The Seahawks got royally screwed that day.

    Imagine being a fan of that worthless franchise. You suck most of the time and then in your one moment of Glory (ever), the refs screw you over on your (probably) only ever chance at winning a Super Bowl.

  88. philaeagles31 says: Sep 13, 2011 4:36 PM

    Hey Moron,

    The Hasselbeck call was the only bad one? What about when you idiots were clearly off-sides and the Seahawks RT had to hold him and they were the only ones flagged on that play?

    Yeah, right, only 1 call going against them. That’s what you call as dumb as a box of rocks.

  89. sojumaster says: Sep 13, 2011 4:37 PM

    cosanostra71 says:
    Sep 13, 2011 1:27 PM
    I don’t understand how this guy is still employed after admitting he screwed up.
    _______________________________

    If they fired every ref that made a mistake, they would be out of refs by the end of the year, EVERY ref makes mistakes. Its a fact of life.

    Some of them even change the outcome of the game, and they are STILL employed next week.

  90. bensstinkyfingers says: Sep 13, 2011 4:40 PM

    Rooney must’ve called in a favor after watching the raping (no pun intended Benny) the Ravens put on the Stealers Sunday. 0-2 is not a good way to start the season. They might have a chance Sunday, but it’s pretty obvious they will not be winning that 7th. ring anytime soon. Please Stealer fans stop living in the past, you had some good teams, now you will be lucky not to end up last in the AFC North.

  91. Deb says: Sep 13, 2011 4:49 PM

    @o0omorriso0o …

    Actually I wasn’t talking trash, I was responding to a trash talker named bleed4philly … and at least he was succinct. No, the point isn’t that Super Bowls are the be-all and end-all. I have a lot of respect for league history and the championships that came before the Super Bowl. The point is that this discussion is about Seattle and Pittsburgh. So when Eagles fans like you and your pal pop into this thread to rant about how evil and worthless the Steelers are, you’re only tipping your hand to everyone else that you’re very bitter about something.

    As for who is better than whom right now … your Eagles haven’t sniffed a championship in years, so until you put up something more than promises of glory, your big talk means nothing.

  92. kylexitron says: Sep 13, 2011 4:56 PM

    I’m a seahawks fan and that superbowl was heartbreaking to watch.

    The seahawks could have played better and won, and i’m not going to say there was a conspiracy to give the game to the Steelers

    BUT

    Even the ref admitted they made poor calls. Any impartial fan could see it.

    So bottom line is that it sucks to know the outcome of the superbowl was influenced by bad calls, no matter your rooting interest. It just compounds it to be a Seahawks fan after growing up watching the team struggle to finally put together a great season and make it to the big game only to have the outcome decided that way.

  93. dbara43 says: Sep 13, 2011 5:01 PM

    Let’s go through it, shall we? The D-Jack TD: he was held first before he pushed off; either way a minor call which should never have happened in a Super Bowl. Oh, and the line judge who made the call? Born and raised in Pittsburgh. Score changes to 21-17 Stealers.

    Dim Ben’s TD? NOT a TD. Score becomes 17-14 Seattle.

    Phantom holding call that Leavy admitted to? First and goal on the two with two Hall of Fame lineman blocking for the league MVP running back? 24-14 Hawks.

    And, if there is no INT two plays later (after a missed horse collar on Joey Porter and TWO Clark Haggins offsides that weren’t called) there is no bogus call on Hasselbeck and NO trick play likely even called after the kickoff. 24-7 Seattle, at a minimum.

    These are the reasons why PFT keeps talking about this game.

    As for Leavy refing this weekend? I heard it’s because the Stealers are gonna raise his jersey to the rafters at halftime and give him his Super Bowl winners ring.

  94. Deb says: Sep 13, 2011 5:04 PM

    @seacolt213 …

    I’ve been over and over that game, and so have a lot of sports authorities. The objective consensus is that the Steelers would have won the game anyway. And if you were being honest, you could admit your team played a lousy game that day. But I can understand why Seahawks fans are bitter. I’m bitter, too. I’ve seen still photos that appear to show Roethlisberger breaking the plane in the air on that TD play. But if they’d just called back that TD, the ball would have been inches from the goal and Ben was perfect in QB sneaks from that distance. The score would have remained the same, and we wouldn’t have had to hear about it all these years.

    I waited 26 years for the Steelers to win that championship and prayed through multiple cancer battles to get to see my team in the Super Bowl again. It’s not fun to be sitting on this side of it either. What I don’t understand is why people don’t direct their complaints to the league instead of Steelers fans. Officiating was a problem before that Super Bowl and it’s continued to get worse and worse since SBXL. But Goodell has done nothing to address the issue. Take it out on him.

  95. Deb says: Sep 13, 2011 5:05 PM

    @bensstinkyfingers …

    So … how ’bout them Browns? :D

  96. Steeler's Will says: Sep 13, 2011 5:08 PM

    So you guys want to try and diss on Philly for not winning a single game. Lets be honest they made the SB everything. But in the end its just 1 game isnt it? The Eagles are one of the most winningest teams the past decade. And even outside of football we have the Phillies (who OWNS the Pirates), Flyers and even the 76ers who were in the playoffs. Sports wise we are doing well. Not to mention who won the last game that counted against Eagles and Steelers? Thats what I thought. I never look at the Steelers as being a good team. I think the AFC has easier teams thats just more about defense. NFC seems to be more about offense and is loaded. I just think the Eagles are the better team in the state of Pennslyvania. If you want to use past history to try and make that argument then your stupider then I thought…lol I care about the present. All you people that use the SB as a trash talking tool act as if once you win the SB that the present seasons and all future seasons never matter anymore…lol Why even watch football anymore then? See where Im coming from? So if Philly wins the SB then does that mean we are 100% promised to win every trash talking argument? 2+ years from now? Get outta here with that BS!!! Eagles > Steelers right now and thats all I care about!!! Dont care about preseason either…lol
    ——————-
    This post made me want to claw out my eyes. If you want to live in this country please learn the language.

  97. lawboy2000 says: Sep 13, 2011 5:14 PM

    I think it would be more fun to have Leavy assigned to every Steelers-Browns game from now until Holmgren leaves Cleveland.

  98. tomthebombtracy says: Sep 13, 2011 5:14 PM

    Unlike the NHL, where the Devils have won three recent Cups and are about to claim bankruptcy, the NFL doesn’t need to invent story lines…..like hockey games in major league stadiums on Jan 1….who cares!

    Goes to show you how little the NFL thinks about SB 40 and whether it was fairly judged. Someone worried about controversey would have red flagged (no pun intended) that ref assignment in Pittsburgh.

  99. tomthebombtracy says: Sep 13, 2011 5:18 PM

    We are having a little fun this week in Pittsburgh. A sports talk show host….Vinne The Pizza Man….was in Seattle at that time, now in Pittsburgh, and he was famous for calling out the NFL on the refs for SB 40. Tough week for Vinny. Hey, Vinny, extra pepperoni on my half!

  100. seacolt213 says: Sep 13, 2011 5:21 PM

    @Bensstinkyfingers

    I’m a Hawks fan that greatly dislikes the Steelers and I think you’re WAY OFF. Steelers are a great team. They will have a cakewalk against us this week. They will compete for a playoff spot (Although I think it’s finally BAL time to win the division) and every team that faces them will need to be on top of their game to win…

    With all that said. Steelers suck.

  101. doe22us says: Sep 13, 2011 5:24 PM

    People should move right along this happened what 4/5 yrs ago its done.

  102. axespray says: Sep 13, 2011 5:40 PM

    3octaveFart says:Sep 13, 2011 4:28 PM
    unclemoobaa1911 says:
    Sep 13, 2011 4:15 PM
    “P.S. Green Bay has 13 championships, thanks for coming out!”
    Most of which were simply awarded in popularity contests without the benefit of a game even being played, and before the invention of electricity.
    We’re all still so terribly impressed
    ——————————————-

    50 years and your team has … “dust”
    but nice try. Have fun watching McNabb light up the league with his 39 passing yards per game.

  103. i5197 says: Sep 13, 2011 6:53 PM

    I saw that game I saw the afful calls that was the seahawks game and the ref screwed it up he should be out of the league

  104. steelcurtainn says: Sep 13, 2011 7:04 PM

    Superbowls are the only thing that really matters. And the Steelers got 6(and will get 7)Everything else is irrelevant. I wouldn’t be to proud to say my team won a championship after the 20’s when there was only about 10 teams. Of course people between age 50 and 90 would beg to differ.

    GO STEELERS!

  105. discosucs2005 says: Sep 13, 2011 7:16 PM

    I know people think the Steelers were lucky, but I don’t think any team gets to the Super Bowl without being lucky.

  106. vegashawk says: Sep 13, 2011 7:33 PM

    @monsterscream

    Ask the Saints.

  107. savannahrose44 says: Sep 13, 2011 8:16 PM

    For those who say Seattle did not belong in that SB their record and performace in the 2005 regular season and their playoff performance says they did. And nothing you can say will change that fact. They got there fair and square and still took all the media BS for it.

    Even my husband a avid 49er fan recognized that SB officiating was bogus. Call Seattle fans bitter all you want but the fact is there were game changing calls that were admittedly blown by this ref in particular. In what world does a QB go down at the 1 yard line pull the ball out from underneath his body and place it over the goal line while he is on the ground and have it ruled a TD? Oh wait I forgot in the world of BS officiating and Ben Rothlisberger straight up cheating.

    I’m not going to go so far as to say Seattle would have won, because the simple fact is blown calls change outcomes, but it should have been a lot closer game than it was. Had that game been called fair the outcome might have been different but we will never know now. So forgive us for not taking that loss at face value, but even my personal friends who happen to be Steeler fans admitted the refs helped them win that game. Let’s hope this ref at least has learned from his mistakes and will take more care in the future to make the right call.

  108. snoqualmieterry says: Sep 13, 2011 8:20 PM

    The ref officiating this game isn’t important. It can’t change that he helped the Steelers win.

  109. chikiboy says: Sep 14, 2011 6:14 AM

    Funny how the perspective on this game goes from one spectrum to the other depending on who you root for or where you live.

    Steelers fans will continue to say “get over it” and “we’ve won another one since”, but that doesn’t change anything…at least in my eyes. I can’t imagine what we all would have had to listen to if they would have lost to the Colts that year in the Divisional round following the “bad call” on the Polamalu INT.

    I respect the franchise and think the Rooney family is a model example of good ownership. I’ve been to a couple of games at Hines Field and think it’s one of the greatest football venues out there. If I had to choose one coach I would want to play for in the NFL it would be Mike Tomlin and for my money, Dick Labeau (along with Rex Ryan) is the best defensive mind in the NFL. That being said, the Steelers got over on the Seahawks and the other NFL fans that day and I think most outside of the greater Pennsylvania area understand that.

    The Seahawks didn’t play lights out (specifically Jerramy Stevens), but the defense played great (as they did throughout the playoffs…go look at the QB ratings for each of their playoff opponents). What hurt them and eventually led to the two single “big plays” by the Steelers was the injury to starting safety Marquand Manuel, which led to having to bring in a kid that was signed off the street just a month earlier. Watch who was caught out of position on both of those plays and you’d see.

    The people that claim that “a good team overcomes bad calls” must have not ever played the game of football at a high level or just don’t understand the sport. It’s a game about momentum and emotion. When you have any positive play negated by a penalty, it takes that aspect away from you. Many make it out like there were two or three bad calls in this game, when the reality is, the entire game was littered with them.

    It still amazes me all of the calls that people seem to conveniently forget that occurred in this game.

    What about Peter Warrick’s 50 yard + punt return that was called back due to a phantom hold (which Tom Jackson made a joke about during NFL Primetime following the game).

    Or the multiple illegal lineman down field on Rothlisberger’s long completion in the first half.

    Or the multiple Steelers players blatantly offside on the infamous Sean Locklear holding play (which half of the Seahawks starting offensive line claimed that is what they initially thought the flag was for).

    Or the no-call on Hines Ward for chucking Kelly Herndon by the head to get himself open on a 10 yard out to complete a third and long (which was laughable considering this occurred AFTER the Darell Jackson pass interference call that negated a TD).

    And still, after several other “questionable” calls, to this point, following the completion to Stevens down to the 1 yard line (if they play stands in light of the questionable hold), Seattle likely would have punched the ball in from the one yard line (behind the NFL MVP and what was considered at that time, the best offensive line in football) capping off a 90+ yard drive in the 4th quarter of the Superbowl against the vaunted Steelers defense to take the lead.

    Personally, my favorite “questionable” play, being at the game live, was following the Hasselbeck INT and “illegal block”, seeing Rothlisberger go to the line of scrimmage with under 10 seconds on the playclock and begin barking out audibles while the clock ticked down. From my vantage point (corner of the endzone), I could clearly see the playclock behind him tick to zero before standing up and screaming “Look at the F*&%ing playclock”! The Steeler fans in my section got a good kick out of that one. Too bad Leavy and his crew didn’t happen to notice before granting Rothlisberger the timeout he attempted to call while the clock sat at zero.

    Being in Detroit that whole week, it was nothing but a seven day appreciation of the Pittsburgh Steelers franchise. Very little Seahawks merchandise could be found anywhere.

    While I’m not gonna say that the game was “fixed” or that there was some conspiracy, I will say that being there, in person, something wasn’t right, from the way I heard the game was broadcast, to the discrepancy in merchandise, leading all the way down to the way the game was officiated.

    I love the NFL and always will, but I’ll never look at it the same as I did before that day. Am I still bitter? F*&%$ yeah I’m still bitter. As far as I’m concerned, the NFL owes me a free trip to a Superbowl that I can enjoy…not just as a Seahawks fan, but as an NFL fan. From the bottom of my heart, if we would have been blown out 42-0, I still would have enjoyed myself much more than I did considering what went down.

  110. rmm1984 says: Sep 14, 2011 8:27 AM

    chikiboy – did you see my posts? There were terrible calls both ways. And the difference in merchandise was because 90% of the people in Detroit were Steelers fans. I’ll buy that there were probably more bad calls against the Seahawks but there were more than a few against the Steelers too.

  111. Deb says: Sep 14, 2011 11:14 AM

    @rmm1984 …

    chikiboy and SavannahRose44 don’t want to hear about the bad calls that went against the Steelers that day. They don’t want to go back and watch the game again–objectively–and examine all the calls. Nor do they want to read breakdowns of the game by sports analysts with no axes to grind.

    SavannahRose44 doesn’t want to see there’s no way Roethlisberger could have cheated by putting the ball over the goal line after the fact since the officials watched the whole sequence on replay. Still photos show the ball breaking the plane in the air–and that’s what the officials were judging. Personally, I wish they’d called it a few inches short because our 6’5″ 240 lb QB was perfect on QB sneaks at that distance, and we wouldn’t have to suffer inane comments about cheating in a circumstance where cheating wasn’t possible.

    chikiboy doesn’t want to hear that merchandisers stock stores based on what they expect to sell, not based on being fair to game participants. Seattle isn’t in the ballpark to the international fanbase the Steelers have, so they weren’t expected to have similar audience representation at that game. It was a conspiracy of wanting to make money on their wares.

    chikiboy doesn’t want to hear how Neil O’Donnell threw those infamous interceptions to SBXXX hero Larry Brown in part because our starter was injured and his backup ran the wrong route. Seattle isn’t the only team to get a bad break in the Super Bowl. None of them want to hear that Dallas scored a touchdown when Jay Novacek threw an illegal pick, taking out the defender–a pick the refs didn’t bother to call. They don’t want to hear how everything about that game was a coronation of Dallas and no one expected Pittsburgh to even be able to compete. It was very similar to what chikiboy’s describing in Detroit–without the whining and conspiracy theories on our part.

    Our game with Dallas had a slightly closer score than the one with Seattle, yet we haven’t spent the last 25 years screeching that “We was robbed!” largely because that game was played before the era of 24-hour sports channels and blogs. Conspiracies–whether about 9/11, Spygate, or SBXL–have become the national pastime for the simpleminded and those who’d rather believe BIG convoluted theories than the simple truth that sometimes humans screw up.

  112. chikiboy says: Sep 14, 2011 12:27 PM

    I “don’t need” to talk about any of these things you claim such as the bad calls against the Steelers, or the reasons why merchandisers stock certain products on shelves (which is a load…there’s a difference between stocking merch and not carrying certain items of type…worked in the retail industry before buddy) or your ridiculous comparison of Superbowl XXX (You lost the game because Neil O’Donnel sucked. PERIOD.).

    I agree that Seattle’s fanbase is miniscule compared to Pittsburgh’s, which exactly plays to my point. The NFL had ALOT to lose should Seattle have won that game. Lots more Steelers “Superbowl Champs”, “One for the thumb” merchandise to be sold than for a handful of stuff to be bought up here in the Pacific Northwest (aka south Alaska).

    I could maybe see your point if the majority of the opinion out there had the same outlook on the game, but when you have the overwhelming majority state that the game was not only officiated poorly, but skewed to favor one team, that should tell you something.

    And let’s not forget Bill Leavy’s lame attempt at an apology/admittance last August that he booted two calls in the fourth that had an impact on the outcome of the game.

    As I said before, I was just as upset as a fan of the NFL and not just one of the Seahawks. The NBA has been employing these same tactics for years, which is why many fans stopped caring about it in the late 90’s.

    So you can sit here and give me a bunch of excuses about how Seahawks fans don’t wanna hear this or hear that…fact is, there’s more out there that saw the same outcome as we did compared to those of Steeler nation.

  113. Deb says: Sep 14, 2011 1:51 PM

    @chikiboy …

    I’m not a buddy, sport. I’m female, like the name “Deb” suggests. I’m not making excuses, but simply stating facts you don’t want to hear. That’s why you’re getting all pissy. And I’m not surprised you’d dismiss the info that plays went awry in SBXXX because our starter was injured–just as you claim happened to you in SBXL. It’s easier to say “O’Donnell sucked” and go back to your familiar whining than to analyze a game–or grasp that other teams suffer losses and get bad calls.

    I’ve never denied the officiating was bad in SBXL. My outrage is that the league has done nothing to improve officiating in the six years since, and it’s continued to deteriorate. Yes, bad calls went against Seattle and against Pittsburgh. But trying to claim all those retailers plus the officiating crew plus the media plus the league were tied up together in a conspiracy to crown Pittsburgh is idiotic. Conspiracies don’t work that way. The more people who are in on a secret, the less likely it is to remain secret.

    Leavy didn’t say he deliberately threw two calls. It is against the law to throw a major sporting event. If Leavy had admitted to fixing a Super Bowl, there would have been a federal investigation. Way to exaggerate. He said he felt he blew two calls. I’ve heard former ref Jim Tunney, Ed Hochuli, and others admit the same thing after other games. Refs are human and humans make mistakes. That’s not conspiratorial.

    Pittsburgh has a huge fan base. It’s also one of the most disliked franchises in the league. The same is true for the Cowboys and Patriots. So any scandal involving those teams, and yes fans of all the others pile on. History books record the majority also thought the world was flat. That didn’t make it so. “Everyone agrees with me!” is a lame argument.

    If you care to do the research, objective sports analysts have evaluated that game play by play and concluded the Steelers would have won the game. But don’t let me interrupt your pity party.

  114. chikiboy says: Sep 14, 2011 2:38 PM

    Male/Female…could care less. What’s your point “sport”? I should approach you any differently because there’s a difference?

    On the Neil O’Donnell subject, please stop bringing it up because there’s no comparison. The Steelers made it to the Superbowl with O’Donnell and lost with him, therefore, don’t try to cry that “we didn’t have our starting QB”. That’s typical of Steeler fans. Your QB sucked in the game, which is why you lost. There’s a huge difference between going with a guy for a majority of the season and throughout the playoffs than there is with having to throw in a guy signed off the street a month earlier who had no previous experience. How’s that for an analysis. As I recall, O’Donnell pretty much stunk up the joint in the AFC Championship as well in a game at home (could have lost on Harbaugh’s Hail Mary). Pittsburgh made it to Superbowl XXX in spite of O’Donnell, not because your starting QB got knocked out of the game by Dallas, so don’t get it twisted.

    For you (and other Steeler fans) to claim there were all these bad calls against Pittsburgh, I’d love for you just to name a few. I’m guessing all you’ll have to go on is “there was a block in the back on the INT by Ben that Seattle returned all the way back to inside their 20″.

    And who is saying that Leavy “threw” any calls. He, by his own admission, said he missed two calls in the 4th quarter of the game that likely had an impact on the outcome. Then moves on to state he lost sleep over the calls and this and that. Sounds like a pretty big admission of guilt. On the biggest stage, the guy and his crew crapped the bed. Yeah, humans make mistakes, but not over and over and over again repeatedly in a 60 minutes frame of time. I challenge you to provide an example of a game of this magnitude that was officiated THIS poorly in any major U.S. sport.

    Again…no one said anything about “everyone agrees with me”. I stated a fact. Many whether in the mainstream media or not considered the game to be a sham. Why don’t you do a little research “sport” and go watch NFL film’s segment on the game itself, where the NFL itself mocks the skewed officiating. I’m sure they did that just for the satisfaction of Seattle fans didn’t they?

    Best line of the segment. “Over the last 35 minutes of the contest, the Pittsburgh Steelers were not flagged for a single penalty.”

    As for the Pity Party…call it what you want, but it’s quite funny that Steeler fans always find the need to “interrupt” our Pity Parties with their opinions, analysis and general arrogance. If it annoys you so much, then choose not to comment and let us all whine amongst one another.

  115. Deb says: Sep 14, 2011 3:39 PM

    Yes, chikiboy, there is a difference, but I’ll leave that to your folks to explain. However, most people don’t call women “buddy.” Apparently you’ve suffered a memory lapse. You posted:

    What hurt them and eventually led to the two single “big plays” by the Steelers was the injury to starting safety Marquand Manuel, which led to having to bring in a kid that was signed off the street just a month earlier.

    And I responded that O’Donnell’s big turnovers in SBXXX resulted from one of our starters being injured. I was simply pointing out that the same thing had happened to us. It happens to everyone–it’s part of the game.

    Quite a number of people on this thread are saying Leavy “threw” the game, and when you talk about how suspicious it was that stores carried mostly Steelers merchandise and how the NBA has been fixing games for years, you do sound like the tinfoil crowd. I’ve seen many games in which no flags were thrown for long segments of play–and I’m sure you have as well. Again, are you saying it was a fix or not?

    This was an article about two teams, not one. If you want an uninterrupted pity party, you’ll have to throw it on a one-team blog. It won’t happen here.

  116. chikiboy says: Sep 15, 2011 12:34 AM

    Again…still don’t see where gender plays into using the term buddy. I don’t make it a habit to review a poster’s name before replyign to determine if they are male or female. It’s the Internet, people tend to portray themselves as either gender, so again, I don’t pay it any mind.

    Also still not quite getting the O’Donnell comparison. Was he not a starter prior to Superbowl XXX? B ecause I know Etrict Pruitt (backup for Seattle in Superbowl XL) was not. So, again, don’t see any similarities to compare between the two scenarios.

    While there are some that say Leavy threw the game, I don’t necessarily think that was the case, but as I mentioned before, something was awry. Do I think there was some grandiose conspiracy? Not necessarily. Do I think that it was in the NFL’s best interest to have the Pittsburgh Steelers win Superbowl XL? Absolutely. Does that mean that I think they skewed the officiating to favor Pittsburgh? While the logical side of my mind says no as I would hope the NFL would not do something like that to their fans, my gut tells me otherwise based on what I saw the entire week in Detroit as well as how the game went. Too many factors that stood out to just ignore as coincidence.

    If that’s something that sounds ludicrous to some, that is their opinion. But I’m sure if you asked Raider fans about the 2001 Divisional playoffs in Foxboro, or Sacramento Kings fans about the 2000 Western Conference Finals, or Baltimore Orioles fans about Game 1 of the 1996 American League Championship Series, many of them likely would feel the same way.

    I’m just curious…how do you think Steeler Nation would have acted had the Colts pulled out the 2006 Divisional playoff against the Steelers? My guess is they would have been right in line with Joey Porter claiming the NFL wanted Peyton Manning to win the game.

    I recall on my trip back from Detroit the Monday after Superbowl XL, standing in line at one of the food court restaurants in O’Hare airport (Chicago) and having the cashier see my hat and state “Dude…you guys were f*&%$ing robbed man.” And the Steeler fan standing nearby said “ah…you think?” And the cashier proceeded to argue with him. Thought it was quite funny.

    I don’t expect an uninterrupted pity party. But if people want to comment on something, then don’t be surprised if people from Seattle still have a bone to pick and do away with the “stop complaining” posts. What do you guys think is gonna happen when the same SOB ref that admittedly cost us an opportunity to win a Superbowl gets assigned to another game where we are going head-to-head against Pittsburgh. I mean seriously…

  117. Deb says: Sep 15, 2011 12:48 PM

    @chikiboy …

    We’re miscommunicating. You didn’t do anything wrong by calling me “buddy.” I figured you didn’t notice my handle, and was just saying “Oh, by the way, I’m a girl.” Kind of a regular around here … and generally a pretty good sport. Have been giving the Ravens fans props all week :)

    Yes, O’Donnell was our starter. Our starting receiver was out. The backup ran the wrong route, which is how Larry Brown was able to swoop in and make the INT that put the game away. So that’s comparable to Manuel’s replacement blowing the coverage.

    I think you’re doing what a lot of people do in these circumstances. You’re taking a badly officiated game–no argument there. And you’re attaching other unrelated events to it (the Bettis hometown stuff, the lopsided amount of Steelers merchandise) so it plays with your head. And yes, I did exactly that same thing in that moment with Polamalu in the Colts game. I thought, “They’re trying to throw the game for Dungy because his son just died!” which is just about the dumbest thing that’s ever raced through my head. But if we’d lost that game, it would have continued to eat at me. The truth is that the ref simply didn’t know the rule. And that’s the scary truth in a lot of these situations. Officiating in the NFL is a mess, and for all his preening about the integrity of the game, Goodell does nothing to address it.

    Steelers have a lot of haters, as do the Cowboys and Pats. And the media blew a few calls out of proportion. Going back over the game, it wasn’t much worse than a lot of other games, but it soon took on a kind of urban legend status. I honestly believe we’d have won. And it breaks my heart because I just want to enjoy the win without all the drama. No, I can’t blame Seahawks fans. I wish it had been a clean game so both teams could have peace. But try to silence those voices talking about conspiracies. I really do believe it was just plain incompetence. Maybe it will help believing people were just stupid and not out to get you.

  118. savannahrose44 says: Sep 15, 2011 11:51 PM

    @ Deb

    “there’s no way Roethlisberger could have cheated by putting the ball over the goal line after the fact since the officials watched the whole sequence on replay. ”

    I watched that game too and I saw the replay and there was nothing that conclusively showed the ball breaking the plane. Even the commentators questioned that and were subsequently shocked when they called it a TD. You can’t say he would have scored there anyway if they spotted the ball back a few. Goal line defenses often produce stops. The most they could have or would have gotten was likely a field goal assuming it wasn’t blocked by the D. But like I said there is no way to know how the game would have gone or could have gone because the refs blew it. But thanks anyway for your biased steeler fan dribble.

  119. seacolt213 says: Sep 16, 2011 11:47 AM

    I would like to remind all of you saying that Big Ben “would’ve scored anyway” concerning his NON-TD… Just a few games earlier when the Steelers were playing Indy, Bettis was trying to hammer one in and fumbled on the 2 yard line. Had Nick Harper not been so gassed, he would’ve housed that and the Steelers wouldn’t even be in the Super Bowl….

    POINT BEING— just because the Steelers are on the 1 or 2 does not mean you get an auto TD.

    *MIC DROP*

  120. Deb says: Sep 16, 2011 1:00 PM

    Said still photos showed him crossing the plane. He wouldn’t have been on the one; he’d have been inches from goal. He was perfect on sneaks at that distance. At least my biased Steeler dribble is based on football knowledge, unlike the “roids” nonsense little unbiased you usually posts.

  121. savannahrose44 says: Sep 16, 2011 2:07 PM

    @ Deb

    Testing will prove who is right and who is shamed on that subject.

  122. Deb says: Sep 16, 2011 4:19 PM

    Thought you were talking about the 70s when they were commonly used throughout the league. If you’re talking about now–careful what you wish for. I expect every team will take a hit when they start testing. Realists don’t get shamed.

  123. Deb says: Sep 16, 2011 4:22 PM

    BTW … you must mean HGH. They’re already testing on ‘roids, and we’re doing just fine.

  124. dmobey says: Sep 18, 2011 3:02 PM

    Yah, everyone used them. It’s just that the Steelers entire offensive line has died from what the Steelers were taking.

    Probably coincidence.

    Like PigPen getting charged with rape over and over and over…

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    Deb says:
    Sep 16, 2011 4:19 PM
    Thought you were talking about the 70s when they were commonly used throughout the league. If you’re talking about now–careful what you wish for. I expect every team will take a hit when they start testing. Realists don’t get shamed.

  125. trollhammer20 says: Sep 18, 2011 3:50 PM

    What a joke of an officiating job today. Brock gets leg-whipped and trips forward into Rothleisberger, and is called for going after the QBs legs. A Steeler DB hits Doug Baldwin helmet-to-helmet, no call is made.

    At least the Steelers finally had Leavy call a penalty against them….late in the third quarter, when it was a three-score game, and it was completely impossible to ignore the clipping call that took place directly in front of him.

    Leavy lists his hometown at Pittsburgh…is anyone really surprised?

  126. Deb says: Sep 18, 2011 9:33 PM

    dmobey, I posted before the details of the only four of our 17 offensive lineman from that era who have died. A tree fell on one, one died of throat cancer, and two had heart attacks–one while hiking in the woods and the other following a long battle with head trauma and addiction to stimulant drugs. Are you slow or just so obsessed with the Steelers that you’ll post untruths regardless? I feel sorry for you.

  127. Deb says: Sep 18, 2011 9:34 PM

    trollhammer20, you’re hysterical. Those hits on Roethlisberger were as dirty as they come–and you know it. Whine on.

  128. trollhammer20 says: Sep 19, 2011 1:26 PM

    Deb, you live in a state of denial.

    Watch the replay. Brock is very clearly leg-whipped by the right tackle, which is a personal foul. As a result of this illegal leg whip, he loses his balance and stumbles forward into the legs of the QB.

    It’s that simple.

    When Brock is not fined later this week, that will be the reason why.

  129. seacolt213 says: Sep 19, 2011 2:30 PM

    Deb is most definitely a little delusional. We’re aware of the Seahawks place in the league, but it can’t feel good watching her team slowly get worse with age.

  130. dchambers144 says: Sep 19, 2011 4:03 PM

    I’m a Steelers fan and I admit the officiating was bad in the Super Bowl, just like it was all playoffs. Most people don’t remember that Roethlisberger was called for the same bogus illegal blocking call that Hasselback was called for in the Indy game. He tried to make a tackle, missed and was called for the illegal block when he took out an Indy player. Also remember the Polamalu interception that was mistakenly (NFL admission) overturned. The thing is, when refereeing is bad, teams just have to make enough plays to overcome or get lucky. Steelers did both against Indy and won, Seahawks didn’t against Steelers and lost.

  131. jon4892 says: Mar 13, 2012 12:01 AM

    Iv been a Steeler fan ever since is was a kid mater of fact i was so lil i only saw about 10 minuts of the game but from what iv read and what i have seen im not proud of what the Steelers did, but look to the future, for beter seasons to come and hope that they dount do anything stupid like it again. but for the people that are still angry about the Pathetic excuse of a Superbowl, time has passed and time to let it go and one day the Seahawks will get there turn on the big stage.

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