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		<title>By: jon4892</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2012 04:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Iv been a Steeler fan ever since is was a kid mater of fact i was so lil i only saw about 10 minuts of the game but from what iv read and what i have seen im not proud of what the Steelers did, but look to the future, for beter seasons to come and hope that they dount do anything stupid like it again. but for the people that are still angry about the Pathetic excuse of a Superbowl, time has passed and time to let it go and one day the Seahawks will get there turn on the big stage.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Iv been a Steeler fan ever since is was a kid mater of fact i was so lil i only saw about 10 minuts of the game but from what iv read and what i have seen im not proud of what the Steelers did, but look to the future, for beter seasons to come and hope that they dount do anything stupid like it again. but for the people that are still angry about the Pathetic excuse of a Superbowl, time has passed and time to let it go and one day the Seahawks will get there turn on the big stage.</p>
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		<title>By: dchambers144</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dchambers144]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2011 20:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m a Steelers fan and I admit the officiating was bad in the Super Bowl, just like it was all playoffs.  Most people don&#039;t remember that Roethlisberger was called for the same bogus illegal blocking call that Hasselback was called for in the Indy game.  He tried to make a tackle, missed and was called for the illegal block when he took out an Indy player.  Also remember the Polamalu interception that was mistakenly (NFL admission) overturned.  The thing is, when refereeing is bad, teams just have to make enough plays to overcome or get lucky.  Steelers did both against Indy and won, Seahawks didn&#039;t against Steelers and lost.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a Steelers fan and I admit the officiating was bad in the Super Bowl, just like it was all playoffs.  Most people don&#8217;t remember that Roethlisberger was called for the same bogus illegal blocking call that Hasselback was called for in the Indy game.  He tried to make a tackle, missed and was called for the illegal block when he took out an Indy player.  Also remember the Polamalu interception that was mistakenly (NFL admission) overturned.  The thing is, when refereeing is bad, teams just have to make enough plays to overcome or get lucky.  Steelers did both against Indy and won, Seahawks didn&#8217;t against Steelers and lost.</p>
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		<title>By: seacolt213</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[seacolt213]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2011 18:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Deb is most definitely a little delusional. We&#039;re aware of the Seahawks place in the league, but it can&#039;t feel good watching her team slowly get worse with age.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deb is most definitely a little delusional. We&#8217;re aware of the Seahawks place in the league, but it can&#8217;t feel good watching her team slowly get worse with age.</p>
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		<title>By: trollhammer20</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[trollhammer20]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2011 17:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Deb, you live in a state of denial.

Watch the replay.  Brock is very clearly leg-whipped by the right tackle, which is a personal foul.  As a result of this illegal leg whip, he loses his balance and stumbles forward into the legs of the QB.

It&#039;s that simple.

When Brock is not fined later this week, that will be the reason why.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deb, you live in a state of denial.</p>
<p>Watch the replay.  Brock is very clearly leg-whipped by the right tackle, which is a personal foul.  As a result of this illegal leg whip, he loses his balance and stumbles forward into the legs of the QB.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s that simple.</p>
<p>When Brock is not fined later this week, that will be the reason why.</p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2011 01:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[trollhammer20, you&#039;re hysterical. Those hits on Roethlisberger were as dirty as they come--and you know it. Whine on.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>trollhammer20, you&#8217;re hysterical. Those hits on Roethlisberger were as dirty as they come&#8211;and you know it. Whine on.</p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2011 01:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[dmobey, I posted before the details of the only four of our 17 offensive lineman from that era who have died. A tree fell on one, one died of throat cancer, and two had heart attacks--one while hiking in the woods and the other following a long battle with head trauma and addiction to stimulant drugs. Are you slow or just so obsessed with the Steelers that you&#039;ll post untruths regardless? I feel sorry for you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dmobey, I posted before the details of the only four of our 17 offensive lineman from that era who have died. A tree fell on one, one died of throat cancer, and two had heart attacks&#8211;one while hiking in the woods and the other following a long battle with head trauma and addiction to stimulant drugs. Are you slow or just so obsessed with the Steelers that you&#8217;ll post untruths regardless? I feel sorry for you.</p>
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		<title>By: trollhammer20</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[trollhammer20]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2011 19:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What a joke of an officiating job today.  Brock gets leg-whipped and trips forward into Rothleisberger, and is called for going after the QBs legs.  A Steeler DB hits Doug Baldwin helmet-to-helmet, no call is made.

At least the Steelers finally had Leavy call a penalty against them....late in the third quarter, when it was a three-score game, and it was completely impossible to ignore the clipping call that took place directly in front of him.

Leavy lists his hometown at Pittsburgh...is anyone really surprised?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a joke of an officiating job today.  Brock gets leg-whipped and trips forward into Rothleisberger, and is called for going after the QBs legs.  A Steeler DB hits Doug Baldwin helmet-to-helmet, no call is made.</p>
<p>At least the Steelers finally had Leavy call a penalty against them&#8230;.late in the third quarter, when it was a three-score game, and it was completely impossible to ignore the clipping call that took place directly in front of him.</p>
<p>Leavy lists his hometown at Pittsburgh&#8230;is anyone really surprised?</p>
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		<title>By: dmobey</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dmobey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2011 19:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yah, everyone used them. It&#039;s just that the Steelers entire offensive line has died from what the Steelers were taking.

Probably coincidence.

Like PigPen getting charged with rape over and over and over...

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Deb says: 
Sep 16, 2011 4:19 PM 
Thought you were talking about the 70s when they were commonly used throughout the league. If you’re talking about now–careful what you wish for. I expect every team will take a hit when they start testing. Realists don’t get shamed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yah, everyone used them. It&#8217;s just that the Steelers entire offensive line has died from what the Steelers were taking.</p>
<p>Probably coincidence.</p>
<p>Like PigPen getting charged with rape over and over and over&#8230;</p>
<p>*****************************<br />
Deb says:<br />
Sep 16, 2011 4:19 PM<br />
Thought you were talking about the 70s when they were commonly used throughout the league. If you’re talking about now–careful what you wish for. I expect every team will take a hit when they start testing. Realists don’t get shamed.</p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2011 20:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[BTW ... you must mean HGH. They&#039;re already testing on &#039;roids, and we&#039;re doing just fine.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW &#8230; you must mean HGH. They&#8217;re already testing on &#8216;roids, and we&#8217;re doing just fine.</p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2011 20:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thought you were talking about the 70s when they were commonly used &lt;em&gt;throughout the league&lt;/em&gt;. If you&#039;re talking about now--careful what you wish for. I expect every team will take a hit when they start testing. Realists don&#039;t get shamed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thought you were talking about the 70s when they were commonly used <em>throughout the league</em>. If you&#8217;re talking about now&#8211;careful what you wish for. I expect every team will take a hit when they start testing. Realists don&#8217;t get shamed.</p>
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		<title>By: savannahrose44</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[savannahrose44]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2011 18:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Deb

Testing will prove who is right and who is shamed on that subject.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Deb</p>
<p>Testing will prove who is right and who is shamed on that subject.</p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2011 17:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Said &lt;em&gt;still&lt;/em&gt; photos showed him crossing the plane. He wouldn&#039;t have been on the one; he&#039;d have been inches from goal. He was perfect on sneaks at that distance. At least my biased Steeler dribble is based on football knowledge, unlike the &quot;roids&quot; nonsense little unbiased you usually posts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Said <em>still</em> photos showed him crossing the plane. He wouldn&#8217;t have been on the one; he&#8217;d have been inches from goal. He was perfect on sneaks at that distance. At least my biased Steeler dribble is based on football knowledge, unlike the &#8220;roids&#8221; nonsense little unbiased you usually posts.</p>
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		<title>By: seacolt213</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[seacolt213]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2011 15:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would like to remind all of you saying that Big Ben &quot;would&#039;ve scored anyway&quot; concerning his NON-TD... Just a few games earlier when the Steelers were playing Indy, Bettis was trying to hammer one in and fumbled on the 2 yard line. Had Nick Harper not been so gassed, he would&#039;ve housed that and the Steelers wouldn&#039;t even be in the Super Bowl....

POINT BEING--- just because the Steelers are on the 1 or 2 does not mean you get an auto TD. 

*MIC DROP*]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to remind all of you saying that Big Ben &#8220;would&#8217;ve scored anyway&#8221; concerning his NON-TD&#8230; Just a few games earlier when the Steelers were playing Indy, Bettis was trying to hammer one in and fumbled on the 2 yard line. Had Nick Harper not been so gassed, he would&#8217;ve housed that and the Steelers wouldn&#8217;t even be in the Super Bowl&#8230;.</p>
<p>POINT BEING&#8212; just because the Steelers are on the 1 or 2 does not mean you get an auto TD. </p>
<p>*MIC DROP*</p>
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		<title>By: savannahrose44</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[savannahrose44]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2011 03:51:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Deb

&quot;there’s no way Roethlisberger could have cheated by putting the ball over the goal line after the fact since the officials watched the whole sequence on replay. &quot;

I watched that game too and I saw the replay and there was nothing that conclusively showed the ball breaking the plane.  Even the commentators questioned that and were subsequently shocked when they called it a TD.  You can&#039;t say he would have scored there anyway if they spotted the ball back a few.  Goal line defenses often produce stops.  The most they could have or would have gotten was likely a field goal assuming it wasn&#039;t blocked by the D.  But like I said there is no way to know how the game would have gone or could have gone because the refs blew it.  But thanks anyway for your biased steeler fan dribble.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Deb</p>
<p>&#8220;there’s no way Roethlisberger could have cheated by putting the ball over the goal line after the fact since the officials watched the whole sequence on replay. &#8221;</p>
<p>I watched that game too and I saw the replay and there was nothing that conclusively showed the ball breaking the plane.  Even the commentators questioned that and were subsequently shocked when they called it a TD.  You can&#8217;t say he would have scored there anyway if they spotted the ball back a few.  Goal line defenses often produce stops.  The most they could have or would have gotten was likely a field goal assuming it wasn&#8217;t blocked by the D.  But like I said there is no way to know how the game would have gone or could have gone because the refs blew it.  But thanks anyway for your biased steeler fan dribble.</p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2011 16:48:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@chikiboy ...

We&#039;re miscommunicating. You didn&#039;t do anything wrong by calling me &quot;buddy.&quot; I figured you didn&#039;t notice my handle, and was just saying &quot;Oh, by the way, I&#039;m a girl.&quot; Kind of a regular around here ... and generally a pretty good sport. Have been giving the Ravens fans props all week :)

Yes, O&#039;Donnell was our starter. Our starting &lt;em&gt;receiver&lt;/em&gt; was out. The backup ran the wrong route, which is how Larry Brown was able to swoop in and make the INT that put the game away. So that&#039;s comparable to Manuel&#039;s replacement blowing the coverage.

I think you&#039;re doing what a lot of people do in these circumstances. You&#039;re taking a badly officiated game--no argument there. And you&#039;re attaching other unrelated events to it (the Bettis hometown stuff, the lopsided amount of Steelers merchandise) so it plays with your head. And yes, I did &lt;em&gt;exactly&lt;/em&gt; that same thing in that moment with Polamalu in the Colts game. I thought, &quot;They&#039;re trying to throw the game for Dungy because his son just died!&quot; which is just about the dumbest thing that&#039;s ever raced through my head. But if we&#039;d lost that game, it would have continued to eat at me. The truth is that the ref simply didn&#039;t know the rule. And that&#039;s the scary truth in a lot of these situations. Officiating in the NFL is a mess, and for all his preening about the integrity of the game, Goodell does nothing to address it.

Steelers have a lot of haters, as do the Cowboys and Pats. And the media blew a few calls out of proportion. Going back over the game, it wasn&#039;t much worse than a lot of other games, but it soon took on a kind of urban legend status. I honestly believe we&#039;d have won. And it breaks my heart because I just want to enjoy the win without all the drama. No, I can&#039;t blame Seahawks fans. I wish it had been a clean game so both teams could have peace. But try to silence those voices talking about conspiracies. I really do believe it was just plain incompetence. Maybe it will help believing people were just stupid and not out to  get you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@chikiboy &#8230;</p>
<p>We&#8217;re miscommunicating. You didn&#8217;t do anything wrong by calling me &#8220;buddy.&#8221; I figured you didn&#8217;t notice my handle, and was just saying &#8220;Oh, by the way, I&#8217;m a girl.&#8221; Kind of a regular around here &#8230; and generally a pretty good sport. Have been giving the Ravens fans props all week <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Yes, O&#8217;Donnell was our starter. Our starting <em>receiver</em> was out. The backup ran the wrong route, which is how Larry Brown was able to swoop in and make the INT that put the game away. So that&#8217;s comparable to Manuel&#8217;s replacement blowing the coverage.</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re doing what a lot of people do in these circumstances. You&#8217;re taking a badly officiated game&#8211;no argument there. And you&#8217;re attaching other unrelated events to it (the Bettis hometown stuff, the lopsided amount of Steelers merchandise) so it plays with your head. And yes, I did <em>exactly</em> that same thing in that moment with Polamalu in the Colts game. I thought, &#8220;They&#8217;re trying to throw the game for Dungy because his son just died!&#8221; which is just about the dumbest thing that&#8217;s ever raced through my head. But if we&#8217;d lost that game, it would have continued to eat at me. The truth is that the ref simply didn&#8217;t know the rule. And that&#8217;s the scary truth in a lot of these situations. Officiating in the NFL is a mess, and for all his preening about the integrity of the game, Goodell does nothing to address it.</p>
<p>Steelers have a lot of haters, as do the Cowboys and Pats. And the media blew a few calls out of proportion. Going back over the game, it wasn&#8217;t much worse than a lot of other games, but it soon took on a kind of urban legend status. I honestly believe we&#8217;d have won. And it breaks my heart because I just want to enjoy the win without all the drama. No, I can&#8217;t blame Seahawks fans. I wish it had been a clean game so both teams could have peace. But try to silence those voices talking about conspiracies. I really do believe it was just plain incompetence. Maybe it will help believing people were just stupid and not out to  get you.</p>
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		<title>By: chikiboy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chikiboy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2011 04:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Again...still don&#039;t see where gender plays into using the term buddy.  I don&#039;t make it a habit to review a poster&#039;s name before replyign to determine if they are male or female.  It&#039;s the Internet, people tend to portray themselves as either gender, so again, I don&#039;t pay it any mind.

Also still not quite getting the O&#039;Donnell comparison.  Was he not a starter prior to Superbowl XXX?  B ecause I know Etrict Pruitt (backup for Seattle in Superbowl XL) was not.  So, again, don&#039;t see any similarities to compare between the two scenarios.

While there are some that say Leavy threw the game, I don&#039;t necessarily think that was the case, but as I mentioned before, something was awry.  Do I think there was some grandiose conspiracy?  Not necessarily.  Do I think that it was in the NFL&#039;s best interest to have the Pittsburgh Steelers win Superbowl XL?  Absolutely.  Does that mean that I think they skewed the officiating to favor Pittsburgh? While the logical side of my mind says no as I would hope the NFL would not do something like that to their fans, my gut tells me otherwise based on what I saw the entire week in Detroit as well as how the game went.  Too many factors that stood out to just ignore as coincidence.

If that&#039;s something that sounds ludicrous to some, that is their opinion.  But I&#039;m sure if you asked Raider fans about the 2001 Divisional playoffs in Foxboro, or Sacramento Kings fans about the 2000 Western Conference Finals, or Baltimore Orioles fans about Game 1 of the 1996 American League Championship Series, many of them likely would feel the same way.

I&#039;m just curious...how do you think Steeler Nation would have acted had the Colts pulled out the 2006 Divisional playoff against the Steelers?  My guess is they would have been right in line with Joey Porter claiming the NFL wanted Peyton Manning to win the game.

I recall on my trip back from Detroit the Monday after Superbowl XL, standing in line at one of the food court restaurants in O&#039;Hare airport (Chicago) and having the cashier see my hat and state &quot;Dude...you guys were f*&amp;%$ing robbed man.&quot;  And the Steeler fan standing nearby said &quot;ah...you think?&quot;  And the cashier proceeded to argue with him.  Thought it was quite funny.

I don&#039;t expect an uninterrupted pity party.  But if people want to comment on something, then don&#039;t be surprised if people from Seattle still have a bone to pick and do away with the &quot;stop complaining&quot; posts.  What do you guys think is gonna happen when the same SOB ref that admittedly cost us an opportunity to win a Superbowl gets assigned to another game where we are going head-to-head against Pittsburgh.  I mean seriously...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again&#8230;still don&#8217;t see where gender plays into using the term buddy.  I don&#8217;t make it a habit to review a poster&#8217;s name before replyign to determine if they are male or female.  It&#8217;s the Internet, people tend to portray themselves as either gender, so again, I don&#8217;t pay it any mind.</p>
<p>Also still not quite getting the O&#8217;Donnell comparison.  Was he not a starter prior to Superbowl XXX?  B ecause I know Etrict Pruitt (backup for Seattle in Superbowl XL) was not.  So, again, don&#8217;t see any similarities to compare between the two scenarios.</p>
<p>While there are some that say Leavy threw the game, I don&#8217;t necessarily think that was the case, but as I mentioned before, something was awry.  Do I think there was some grandiose conspiracy?  Not necessarily.  Do I think that it was in the NFL&#8217;s best interest to have the Pittsburgh Steelers win Superbowl XL?  Absolutely.  Does that mean that I think they skewed the officiating to favor Pittsburgh? While the logical side of my mind says no as I would hope the NFL would not do something like that to their fans, my gut tells me otherwise based on what I saw the entire week in Detroit as well as how the game went.  Too many factors that stood out to just ignore as coincidence.</p>
<p>If that&#8217;s something that sounds ludicrous to some, that is their opinion.  But I&#8217;m sure if you asked Raider fans about the 2001 Divisional playoffs in Foxboro, or Sacramento Kings fans about the 2000 Western Conference Finals, or Baltimore Orioles fans about Game 1 of the 1996 American League Championship Series, many of them likely would feel the same way.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just curious&#8230;how do you think Steeler Nation would have acted had the Colts pulled out the 2006 Divisional playoff against the Steelers?  My guess is they would have been right in line with Joey Porter claiming the NFL wanted Peyton Manning to win the game.</p>
<p>I recall on my trip back from Detroit the Monday after Superbowl XL, standing in line at one of the food court restaurants in O&#8217;Hare airport (Chicago) and having the cashier see my hat and state &#8220;Dude&#8230;you guys were f*&amp;%$ing robbed man.&#8221;  And the Steeler fan standing nearby said &#8220;ah&#8230;you think?&#8221;  And the cashier proceeded to argue with him.  Thought it was quite funny.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t expect an uninterrupted pity party.  But if people want to comment on something, then don&#8217;t be surprised if people from Seattle still have a bone to pick and do away with the &#8220;stop complaining&#8221; posts.  What do you guys think is gonna happen when the same SOB ref that admittedly cost us an opportunity to win a Superbowl gets assigned to another game where we are going head-to-head against Pittsburgh.  I mean seriously&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/13/seahawks-steelers-game-will-have-a-familiar-referee/#comment-1262371</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 19:39:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, chikiboy, there is a difference, but I&#039;ll leave that to your folks to explain. However, most people don&#039;t call women &quot;buddy.&quot; Apparently you&#039;ve suffered a memory lapse. You posted:

&lt;em&gt;What hurt them and eventually led to the two single “big plays” by the Steelers was the injury to starting safety Marquand Manuel, which led to having to bring in a kid that was signed off the street just a month earlier.&lt;/em&gt;

And I responded that O&#039;Donnell&#039;s big turnovers in SBXXX resulted from one of &lt;em&gt;our&lt;/em&gt; starters being injured. I was simply pointing out that the &lt;em&gt;same thing&lt;/em&gt; had happened to us. It happens to everyone--it&#039;s part of the game.

Quite a number of people on this thread are saying Leavy &quot;threw&quot; the game, and when you talk about how suspicious it was that stores carried mostly Steelers merchandise and how the NBA has been fixing games for years, you do sound like the tinfoil crowd. I&#039;ve seen many games in which no flags were thrown for long segments of play--and I&#039;m sure you have as well. Again, are you saying it was a fix or not?

This was an article about &lt;em&gt;two&lt;/em&gt; teams, not one. If you want an uninterrupted pity party, you&#039;ll have to throw it on a one-team blog. It won&#039;t happen here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, chikiboy, there is a difference, but I&#8217;ll leave that to your folks to explain. However, most people don&#8217;t call women &#8220;buddy.&#8221; Apparently you&#8217;ve suffered a memory lapse. You posted:</p>
<p><em>What hurt them and eventually led to the two single “big plays” by the Steelers was the injury to starting safety Marquand Manuel, which led to having to bring in a kid that was signed off the street just a month earlier.</em></p>
<p>And I responded that O&#8217;Donnell&#8217;s big turnovers in SBXXX resulted from one of <em>our</em> starters being injured. I was simply pointing out that the <em>same thing</em> had happened to us. It happens to everyone&#8211;it&#8217;s part of the game.</p>
<p>Quite a number of people on this thread are saying Leavy &#8220;threw&#8221; the game, and when you talk about how suspicious it was that stores carried mostly Steelers merchandise and how the NBA has been fixing games for years, you do sound like the tinfoil crowd. I&#8217;ve seen many games in which no flags were thrown for long segments of play&#8211;and I&#8217;m sure you have as well. Again, are you saying it was a fix or not?</p>
<p>This was an article about <em>two</em> teams, not one. If you want an uninterrupted pity party, you&#8217;ll have to throw it on a one-team blog. It won&#8217;t happen here.</p>
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		<title>By: chikiboy</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/13/seahawks-steelers-game-will-have-a-familiar-referee/#comment-1262188</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chikiboy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 18:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Male/Female...could care less.  What&#039;s your point &quot;sport&quot;?  I should approach you any differently because there&#039;s a difference?

On the Neil O&#039;Donnell subject, please stop bringing it up because there&#039;s no comparison. The Steelers made it to the Superbowl with O&#039;Donnell and lost with him, therefore, don&#039;t try to cry that &quot;we didn&#039;t have our starting QB&quot;.  That&#039;s typical of Steeler fans.  Your QB sucked in the game, which is why you lost.  There&#039;s a huge difference between going with a guy for a majority of the season and throughout the playoffs than there is with having to throw in a guy signed off the street a month earlier who had no previous experience. How&#039;s that for an analysis.  As I recall, O&#039;Donnell pretty much stunk up the joint in the AFC Championship as well in a game at home (could have lost on Harbaugh&#039;s Hail Mary). Pittsburgh made it to Superbowl XXX in spite of O&#039;Donnell, not because your starting QB got knocked out of the game by Dallas, so don&#039;t get it twisted.

For you (and other Steeler fans) to claim there were all these bad calls against Pittsburgh, I&#039;d love for you just to name a few.  I&#039;m guessing all you&#039;ll have to go on is &quot;there was a block in the back on the INT by Ben that Seattle returned all the way back to inside their 20&quot;. 

And who is saying that Leavy &quot;threw&quot; any calls.  He, by his own admission, said he missed two calls in the 4th quarter of the game that likely had an impact on the outcome.  Then moves on to state he lost sleep over the calls and this and that.  Sounds like a pretty big admission of guilt.  On the biggest stage, the guy and his crew crapped the bed.  Yeah, humans make mistakes, but not over and over and over again repeatedly in a 60 minutes frame of time.  I challenge you to provide an  example of a game of this magnitude that was officiated THIS poorly in any major U.S. sport.

Again...no one said anything about &quot;everyone agrees with me&quot;.  I stated a fact.  Many whether in the mainstream media or not considered the game to be a sham.  Why don&#039;t you do a little research &quot;sport&quot; and go watch NFL film&#039;s segment on the game itself, where the NFL itself mocks the skewed officiating.  I&#039;m sure they did that just for the satisfaction of Seattle fans didn&#039;t they?

Best line of the segment.  &quot;Over the last 35 minutes of the contest, the Pittsburgh Steelers were not flagged for a single penalty.&quot;

As for the Pity Party...call it what you want, but it&#039;s quite funny that Steeler fans always find the need to &quot;interrupt&quot; our Pity Parties with their opinions, analysis and general arrogance.  If it annoys you so much, then choose not to comment and let us all whine amongst one another.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Male/Female&#8230;could care less.  What&#8217;s your point &#8220;sport&#8221;?  I should approach you any differently because there&#8217;s a difference?</p>
<p>On the Neil O&#8217;Donnell subject, please stop bringing it up because there&#8217;s no comparison. The Steelers made it to the Superbowl with O&#8217;Donnell and lost with him, therefore, don&#8217;t try to cry that &#8220;we didn&#8217;t have our starting QB&#8221;.  That&#8217;s typical of Steeler fans.  Your QB sucked in the game, which is why you lost.  There&#8217;s a huge difference between going with a guy for a majority of the season and throughout the playoffs than there is with having to throw in a guy signed off the street a month earlier who had no previous experience. How&#8217;s that for an analysis.  As I recall, O&#8217;Donnell pretty much stunk up the joint in the AFC Championship as well in a game at home (could have lost on Harbaugh&#8217;s Hail Mary). Pittsburgh made it to Superbowl XXX in spite of O&#8217;Donnell, not because your starting QB got knocked out of the game by Dallas, so don&#8217;t get it twisted.</p>
<p>For you (and other Steeler fans) to claim there were all these bad calls against Pittsburgh, I&#8217;d love for you just to name a few.  I&#8217;m guessing all you&#8217;ll have to go on is &#8220;there was a block in the back on the INT by Ben that Seattle returned all the way back to inside their 20&#8243;. </p>
<p>And who is saying that Leavy &#8220;threw&#8221; any calls.  He, by his own admission, said he missed two calls in the 4th quarter of the game that likely had an impact on the outcome.  Then moves on to state he lost sleep over the calls and this and that.  Sounds like a pretty big admission of guilt.  On the biggest stage, the guy and his crew crapped the bed.  Yeah, humans make mistakes, but not over and over and over again repeatedly in a 60 minutes frame of time.  I challenge you to provide an  example of a game of this magnitude that was officiated THIS poorly in any major U.S. sport.</p>
<p>Again&#8230;no one said anything about &#8220;everyone agrees with me&#8221;.  I stated a fact.  Many whether in the mainstream media or not considered the game to be a sham.  Why don&#8217;t you do a little research &#8220;sport&#8221; and go watch NFL film&#8217;s segment on the game itself, where the NFL itself mocks the skewed officiating.  I&#8217;m sure they did that just for the satisfaction of Seattle fans didn&#8217;t they?</p>
<p>Best line of the segment.  &#8220;Over the last 35 minutes of the contest, the Pittsburgh Steelers were not flagged for a single penalty.&#8221;</p>
<p>As for the Pity Party&#8230;call it what you want, but it&#8217;s quite funny that Steeler fans always find the need to &#8220;interrupt&#8221; our Pity Parties with their opinions, analysis and general arrogance.  If it annoys you so much, then choose not to comment and let us all whine amongst one another.</p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/13/seahawks-steelers-game-will-have-a-familiar-referee/#comment-1262107</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 17:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@chikiboy ...

I&#039;m not a buddy, sport. I&#039;m female, like the name &quot;Deb&quot; suggests. I&#039;m not making excuses, but simply stating facts you don&#039;t want to hear. That&#039;s why you&#039;re getting all pissy. And I&#039;m not surprised you&#039;d dismiss the info that plays went awry in SBXXX because &lt;em&gt;our&lt;/em&gt; starter was injured--just as you claim happened to you in SBXL. It&#039;s easier to say &quot;O&#039;Donnell sucked&quot; and go back to your familiar whining than to analyze a game--or grasp that other teams suffer losses and get bad calls. 

I&#039;ve never denied the officiating was bad in SBXL. My outrage is that the league has done nothing to improve officiating in the six years since, and it&#039;s continued to deteriorate. Yes, bad calls went against Seattle &lt;em&gt;and&lt;/em&gt; against Pittsburgh. But trying to claim all those retailers &lt;em&gt;plus&lt;/em&gt; the officiating crew &lt;em&gt;plus&lt;/em&gt; the media &lt;em&gt;plus&lt;/em&gt; the league were tied up together in a conspiracy to crown Pittsburgh is idiotic. Conspiracies don&#039;t work that way. The more people who are in on a secret, the less likely it is to remain secret.

Leavy didn&#039;t say he deliberately threw two calls. It is against the law to throw a major sporting event. If Leavy had admitted to &lt;em&gt;fixing&lt;/em&gt; a Super Bowl, there would have been a federal investigation. Way to exaggerate. He said he felt he &lt;em&gt;blew&lt;/em&gt; two calls. I&#039;ve heard former ref Jim Tunney, Ed Hochuli, and others admit the same thing after other games. Refs are &lt;em&gt;human&lt;/em&gt; and humans make mistakes. That&#039;s not conspiratorial. 

Pittsburgh has a huge fan base. It&#039;s also one of the most disliked franchises in the league. The same is true for the Cowboys and Patriots. So any scandal involving those teams, and &lt;em&gt;yes&lt;/em&gt; fans of all the others pile on. History books record the majority also thought the world was flat. That didn&#039;t make it so. &quot;Everyone agrees with me!&quot; is a lame argument.

If you care to do the research, objective sports analysts have evaluated that game play by play and concluded the Steelers would have won the game. But don&#039;t let me interrupt your pity party.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@chikiboy &#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a buddy, sport. I&#8217;m female, like the name &#8220;Deb&#8221; suggests. I&#8217;m not making excuses, but simply stating facts you don&#8217;t want to hear. That&#8217;s why you&#8217;re getting all pissy. And I&#8217;m not surprised you&#8217;d dismiss the info that plays went awry in SBXXX because <em>our</em> starter was injured&#8211;just as you claim happened to you in SBXL. It&#8217;s easier to say &#8220;O&#8217;Donnell sucked&#8221; and go back to your familiar whining than to analyze a game&#8211;or grasp that other teams suffer losses and get bad calls. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never denied the officiating was bad in SBXL. My outrage is that the league has done nothing to improve officiating in the six years since, and it&#8217;s continued to deteriorate. Yes, bad calls went against Seattle <em>and</em> against Pittsburgh. But trying to claim all those retailers <em>plus</em> the officiating crew <em>plus</em> the media <em>plus</em> the league were tied up together in a conspiracy to crown Pittsburgh is idiotic. Conspiracies don&#8217;t work that way. The more people who are in on a secret, the less likely it is to remain secret.</p>
<p>Leavy didn&#8217;t say he deliberately threw two calls. It is against the law to throw a major sporting event. If Leavy had admitted to <em>fixing</em> a Super Bowl, there would have been a federal investigation. Way to exaggerate. He said he felt he <em>blew</em> two calls. I&#8217;ve heard former ref Jim Tunney, Ed Hochuli, and others admit the same thing after other games. Refs are <em>human</em> and humans make mistakes. That&#8217;s not conspiratorial. </p>
<p>Pittsburgh has a huge fan base. It&#8217;s also one of the most disliked franchises in the league. The same is true for the Cowboys and Patriots. So any scandal involving those teams, and <em>yes</em> fans of all the others pile on. History books record the majority also thought the world was flat. That didn&#8217;t make it so. &#8220;Everyone agrees with me!&#8221; is a lame argument.</p>
<p>If you care to do the research, objective sports analysts have evaluated that game play by play and concluded the Steelers would have won the game. But don&#8217;t let me interrupt your pity party.</p>
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		<title>By: chikiboy</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/13/seahawks-steelers-game-will-have-a-familiar-referee/#comment-1261907</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chikiboy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 16:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I &quot;don&#039;t need&quot; to talk about any of these things you claim such as the bad calls against the Steelers, or the reasons why merchandisers stock certain products on shelves (which is a load...there&#039;s a difference between stocking merch and not carrying certain items of type...worked in the retail industry before buddy) or your ridiculous comparison of Superbowl XXX (You lost the game because Neil O&#039;Donnel sucked.  PERIOD.).

I agree that Seattle&#039;s fanbase is miniscule compared to Pittsburgh&#039;s, which exactly plays to my point.  The NFL had ALOT to lose should Seattle have won that game.  Lots more Steelers &quot;Superbowl Champs&quot;, &quot;One for the thumb&quot; merchandise to be sold than for a handful of stuff to be bought up here in the Pacific Northwest (aka south Alaska).

I could maybe see your point if the majority of the opinion out there had the same outlook on the game, but when you have the overwhelming majority state that the game was not only officiated poorly, but skewed to favor one team, that should tell you something.

And let&#039;s not forget Bill Leavy&#039;s lame attempt at an apology/admittance last August that he booted two calls in the fourth that had an impact on the outcome of the game.

As I said before, I was just as upset as a fan of the NFL and not just one of the Seahawks.  The NBA has been employing these same tactics for years, which is why many fans stopped caring about it in the late 90&#039;s.

So you can sit here and give me a bunch of excuses about how Seahawks fans don&#039;t wanna hear this or hear that...fact is, there&#039;s more out there that saw the same outcome as we did compared to those of Steeler nation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I &#8220;don&#8217;t need&#8221; to talk about any of these things you claim such as the bad calls against the Steelers, or the reasons why merchandisers stock certain products on shelves (which is a load&#8230;there&#8217;s a difference between stocking merch and not carrying certain items of type&#8230;worked in the retail industry before buddy) or your ridiculous comparison of Superbowl XXX (You lost the game because Neil O&#8217;Donnel sucked.  PERIOD.).</p>
<p>I agree that Seattle&#8217;s fanbase is miniscule compared to Pittsburgh&#8217;s, which exactly plays to my point.  The NFL had ALOT to lose should Seattle have won that game.  Lots more Steelers &#8220;Superbowl Champs&#8221;, &#8220;One for the thumb&#8221; merchandise to be sold than for a handful of stuff to be bought up here in the Pacific Northwest (aka south Alaska).</p>
<p>I could maybe see your point if the majority of the opinion out there had the same outlook on the game, but when you have the overwhelming majority state that the game was not only officiated poorly, but skewed to favor one team, that should tell you something.</p>
<p>And let&#8217;s not forget Bill Leavy&#8217;s lame attempt at an apology/admittance last August that he booted two calls in the fourth that had an impact on the outcome of the game.</p>
<p>As I said before, I was just as upset as a fan of the NFL and not just one of the Seahawks.  The NBA has been employing these same tactics for years, which is why many fans stopped caring about it in the late 90&#8242;s.</p>
<p>So you can sit here and give me a bunch of excuses about how Seahawks fans don&#8217;t wanna hear this or hear that&#8230;fact is, there&#8217;s more out there that saw the same outcome as we did compared to those of Steeler nation.</p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/13/seahawks-steelers-game-will-have-a-familiar-referee/#comment-1261700</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 15:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@rmm1984 ...

chikiboy and SavannahRose44 don&#039;t want to hear about the bad calls that went against the Steelers that day. They don&#039;t want to go back and watch the game again--objectively--and examine &lt;em&gt;all&lt;/em&gt; the calls. Nor do they want to read breakdowns of the game by sports analysts with no axes to grind. 

SavannahRose44 doesn&#039;t want to see there&#039;s no way Roethlisberger could have cheated by putting the ball over the goal line after the fact since the officials watched the whole sequence on replay. Still photos show the ball breaking the plane in the air--and that&#039;s what the officials were judging. Personally, I wish they&#039;d called it a few inches short because our 6&#039;5&quot; 240 lb QB was perfect on QB sneaks at that distance, and we wouldn&#039;t have to suffer inane comments about cheating in a circumstance where cheating wasn&#039;t possible.

chikiboy doesn&#039;t want to hear that merchandisers stock stores based on what they expect to sell, not based on being fair to game participants. Seattle isn&#039;t in the ballpark to the international fanbase the Steelers have, so they weren&#039;t expected to have similar audience representation at that game. It was a conspiracy of wanting to make money on their wares.

chikiboy doesn&#039;t want to hear how Neil O&#039;Donnell threw those infamous interceptions to SBXXX hero Larry Brown in part because &lt;em&gt;our&lt;/em&gt; starter was injured and his backup ran the wrong route. Seattle isn&#039;t the only team to get a bad break in the Super Bowl. None of them want to hear that Dallas scored a touchdown when Jay Novacek threw an illegal pick, taking out the defender--a pick the refs didn&#039;t bother to call. They don&#039;t want to hear how everything about that game was a coronation of Dallas and no one expected Pittsburgh to even be able to compete. It was very similar to what chikiboy&#039;s describing in Detroit--without the whining and conspiracy theories on our part. 

Our game with Dallas had a slightly closer score than the one with Seattle, yet we haven&#039;t spent the last 25 years screeching that &quot;We was robbed!&quot; largely because that game was played before the era of 24-hour sports channels and blogs. Conspiracies--whether about 9/11, Spygate, or SBXL--have become the national pastime for the simpleminded and those who&#039;d rather believe BIG convoluted theories than the simple truth that sometimes humans screw up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@rmm1984 &#8230;</p>
<p>chikiboy and SavannahRose44 don&#8217;t want to hear about the bad calls that went against the Steelers that day. They don&#8217;t want to go back and watch the game again&#8211;objectively&#8211;and examine <em>all</em> the calls. Nor do they want to read breakdowns of the game by sports analysts with no axes to grind. </p>
<p>SavannahRose44 doesn&#8217;t want to see there&#8217;s no way Roethlisberger could have cheated by putting the ball over the goal line after the fact since the officials watched the whole sequence on replay. Still photos show the ball breaking the plane in the air&#8211;and that&#8217;s what the officials were judging. Personally, I wish they&#8217;d called it a few inches short because our 6&#8217;5&#8243; 240 lb QB was perfect on QB sneaks at that distance, and we wouldn&#8217;t have to suffer inane comments about cheating in a circumstance where cheating wasn&#8217;t possible.</p>
<p>chikiboy doesn&#8217;t want to hear that merchandisers stock stores based on what they expect to sell, not based on being fair to game participants. Seattle isn&#8217;t in the ballpark to the international fanbase the Steelers have, so they weren&#8217;t expected to have similar audience representation at that game. It was a conspiracy of wanting to make money on their wares.</p>
<p>chikiboy doesn&#8217;t want to hear how Neil O&#8217;Donnell threw those infamous interceptions to SBXXX hero Larry Brown in part because <em>our</em> starter was injured and his backup ran the wrong route. Seattle isn&#8217;t the only team to get a bad break in the Super Bowl. None of them want to hear that Dallas scored a touchdown when Jay Novacek threw an illegal pick, taking out the defender&#8211;a pick the refs didn&#8217;t bother to call. They don&#8217;t want to hear how everything about that game was a coronation of Dallas and no one expected Pittsburgh to even be able to compete. It was very similar to what chikiboy&#8217;s describing in Detroit&#8211;without the whining and conspiracy theories on our part. </p>
<p>Our game with Dallas had a slightly closer score than the one with Seattle, yet we haven&#8217;t spent the last 25 years screeching that &#8220;We was robbed!&#8221; largely because that game was played before the era of 24-hour sports channels and blogs. Conspiracies&#8211;whether about 9/11, Spygate, or SBXL&#8211;have become the national pastime for the simpleminded and those who&#8217;d rather believe BIG convoluted theories than the simple truth that sometimes humans screw up.</p>
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		<title>By: rmm1984</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rmm1984]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 12:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[chikiboy - did you see my posts? There were terrible calls both ways. And the difference in merchandise was because 90% of the people in Detroit were Steelers fans. I&#039;ll buy that there were probably more bad calls against the Seahawks but there were more than a few against the Steelers too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>chikiboy &#8211; did you see my posts? There were terrible calls both ways. And the difference in merchandise was because 90% of the people in Detroit were Steelers fans. I&#8217;ll buy that there were probably more bad calls against the Seahawks but there were more than a few against the Steelers too.</p>
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		<title>By: chikiboy</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 10:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Funny how the perspective on this game goes from one spectrum to the other depending on who you root for or where you live.

Steelers fans will continue to say &quot;get over it&quot; and &quot;we&#039;ve won another one since&quot;, but that doesn&#039;t change anything...at least in my eyes.  I can&#039;t imagine what we all would have had to listen to if they would have lost to the Colts that year in the Divisional round following the &quot;bad call&quot; on the Polamalu INT.

I respect the franchise and think the Rooney family is a model example of good ownership.  I&#039;ve been to a couple of games at Hines Field and think it&#039;s one of the greatest football venues out there.  If I had to choose one coach I would want to play for in the NFL it would be Mike Tomlin and for my money, Dick Labeau (along with Rex Ryan) is the best defensive mind in the NFL.  That being said, the Steelers got over on the Seahawks and the other NFL fans that day and I think most outside of the greater Pennsylvania area understand that.

The Seahawks didn&#039;t play lights out (specifically Jerramy Stevens), but the defense played great (as they did throughout the playoffs...go look at the QB ratings for each of their playoff opponents).  What hurt them and eventually led to the two single &quot;big plays&quot; by the Steelers was the injury to starting safety Marquand Manuel, which led to having to bring in a kid that was signed off the street just a month earlier.  Watch who was caught out of position on both of those plays and you&#039;d see.

The people that claim that &quot;a good team overcomes bad calls&quot; must have not ever played the game of football at a high level or just don&#039;t understand the sport.  It&#039;s a game about momentum and emotion.  When you have any positive play negated by a penalty, it takes that aspect away from you.  Many make it out like there were two or three bad calls in this game, when the reality is, the entire game was littered with them.

It still amazes me all of the calls that people seem to conveniently forget that occurred in this game.

What about Peter Warrick&#039;s 50 yard + punt return that was called back due to a phantom hold (which Tom Jackson made a joke about during NFL Primetime following the game).

Or the multiple illegal lineman down field on Rothlisberger&#039;s long completion in the first half.

Or the multiple Steelers players blatantly offside on the infamous Sean Locklear holding play (which half of the Seahawks starting offensive line claimed that is what they initially thought the flag was for).

Or the no-call on Hines Ward for chucking Kelly Herndon by the head to get himself open on a 10 yard out to complete a third and long (which was laughable considering this occurred AFTER the Darell Jackson pass interference call that negated a TD).

And still, after several other &quot;questionable&quot; calls, to this point, following the completion to Stevens down to the 1 yard line (if they play stands in light of the questionable hold), Seattle likely would have punched the ball in from the one yard line (behind the NFL MVP and what was considered at that time, the best offensive line in football) capping off a 90+ yard drive in the 4th quarter of the Superbowl against the vaunted Steelers defense to take the lead.


Personally, my favorite &quot;questionable&quot; play, being at the game live, was following the Hasselbeck INT and &quot;illegal block&quot;, seeing Rothlisberger go to the line of scrimmage with under 10 seconds on the playclock and begin barking out audibles while the clock ticked down.  From my vantage point (corner of the endzone), I could clearly see the playclock behind him tick to zero before standing up and screaming &quot;Look at the F*&amp;%ing playclock&quot;!  The Steeler fans in my section got a good kick out of that one.  Too bad Leavy and his crew didn&#039;t happen to notice before granting Rothlisberger the timeout he attempted to call while the clock sat at zero.

Being in Detroit that whole week, it was nothing but a seven day appreciation of the Pittsburgh Steelers franchise.  Very little Seahawks merchandise could be found anywhere.

While I&#039;m not gonna say that the game was &quot;fixed&quot; or that there was some conspiracy, I will say that being there, in person, something wasn&#039;t right, from the way I heard the game was broadcast, to the discrepancy in merchandise, leading all the way down to the way the game was officiated.

I love the NFL and always will, but I&#039;ll never look at it the same as I did before that day.  Am I still bitter?  F*&amp;%$ yeah I&#039;m still bitter.  As far as I&#039;m concerned, the NFL owes me a free trip to a Superbowl that I can enjoy...not just as a Seahawks fan, but as an NFL fan.  From the bottom of my heart, if we would have been blown out 42-0, I still would have enjoyed myself much more than I did considering what went down.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny how the perspective on this game goes from one spectrum to the other depending on who you root for or where you live.</p>
<p>Steelers fans will continue to say &#8220;get over it&#8221; and &#8220;we&#8217;ve won another one since&#8221;, but that doesn&#8217;t change anything&#8230;at least in my eyes.  I can&#8217;t imagine what we all would have had to listen to if they would have lost to the Colts that year in the Divisional round following the &#8220;bad call&#8221; on the Polamalu INT.</p>
<p>I respect the franchise and think the Rooney family is a model example of good ownership.  I&#8217;ve been to a couple of games at Hines Field and think it&#8217;s one of the greatest football venues out there.  If I had to choose one coach I would want to play for in the NFL it would be Mike Tomlin and for my money, Dick Labeau (along with Rex Ryan) is the best defensive mind in the NFL.  That being said, the Steelers got over on the Seahawks and the other NFL fans that day and I think most outside of the greater Pennsylvania area understand that.</p>
<p>The Seahawks didn&#8217;t play lights out (specifically Jerramy Stevens), but the defense played great (as they did throughout the playoffs&#8230;go look at the QB ratings for each of their playoff opponents).  What hurt them and eventually led to the two single &#8220;big plays&#8221; by the Steelers was the injury to starting safety Marquand Manuel, which led to having to bring in a kid that was signed off the street just a month earlier.  Watch who was caught out of position on both of those plays and you&#8217;d see.</p>
<p>The people that claim that &#8220;a good team overcomes bad calls&#8221; must have not ever played the game of football at a high level or just don&#8217;t understand the sport.  It&#8217;s a game about momentum and emotion.  When you have any positive play negated by a penalty, it takes that aspect away from you.  Many make it out like there were two or three bad calls in this game, when the reality is, the entire game was littered with them.</p>
<p>It still amazes me all of the calls that people seem to conveniently forget that occurred in this game.</p>
<p>What about Peter Warrick&#8217;s 50 yard + punt return that was called back due to a phantom hold (which Tom Jackson made a joke about during NFL Primetime following the game).</p>
<p>Or the multiple illegal lineman down field on Rothlisberger&#8217;s long completion in the first half.</p>
<p>Or the multiple Steelers players blatantly offside on the infamous Sean Locklear holding play (which half of the Seahawks starting offensive line claimed that is what they initially thought the flag was for).</p>
<p>Or the no-call on Hines Ward for chucking Kelly Herndon by the head to get himself open on a 10 yard out to complete a third and long (which was laughable considering this occurred AFTER the Darell Jackson pass interference call that negated a TD).</p>
<p>And still, after several other &#8220;questionable&#8221; calls, to this point, following the completion to Stevens down to the 1 yard line (if they play stands in light of the questionable hold), Seattle likely would have punched the ball in from the one yard line (behind the NFL MVP and what was considered at that time, the best offensive line in football) capping off a 90+ yard drive in the 4th quarter of the Superbowl against the vaunted Steelers defense to take the lead.</p>
<p>Personally, my favorite &#8220;questionable&#8221; play, being at the game live, was following the Hasselbeck INT and &#8220;illegal block&#8221;, seeing Rothlisberger go to the line of scrimmage with under 10 seconds on the playclock and begin barking out audibles while the clock ticked down.  From my vantage point (corner of the endzone), I could clearly see the playclock behind him tick to zero before standing up and screaming &#8220;Look at the F*&amp;%ing playclock&#8221;!  The Steeler fans in my section got a good kick out of that one.  Too bad Leavy and his crew didn&#8217;t happen to notice before granting Rothlisberger the timeout he attempted to call while the clock sat at zero.</p>
<p>Being in Detroit that whole week, it was nothing but a seven day appreciation of the Pittsburgh Steelers franchise.  Very little Seahawks merchandise could be found anywhere.</p>
<p>While I&#8217;m not gonna say that the game was &#8220;fixed&#8221; or that there was some conspiracy, I will say that being there, in person, something wasn&#8217;t right, from the way I heard the game was broadcast, to the discrepancy in merchandise, leading all the way down to the way the game was officiated.</p>
<p>I love the NFL and always will, but I&#8217;ll never look at it the same as I did before that day.  Am I still bitter?  F*&amp;%$ yeah I&#8217;m still bitter.  As far as I&#8217;m concerned, the NFL owes me a free trip to a Superbowl that I can enjoy&#8230;not just as a Seahawks fan, but as an NFL fan.  From the bottom of my heart, if we would have been blown out 42-0, I still would have enjoyed myself much more than I did considering what went down.</p>
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		<title>By: snoqualmieterry</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 00:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The ref officiating this game isn&#039;t important.  It can&#039;t change that he helped the Steelers win.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ref officiating this game isn&#8217;t important.  It can&#8217;t change that he helped the Steelers win.</p>
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		<title>By: savannahrose44</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 00:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For those who say Seattle did not belong in that SB their record and performace in the 2005 regular season and their playoff performance says they did.  And nothing you can say will change that fact.  They got there fair and square and still took all the media BS for it.  

Even my husband a avid 49er fan recognized that SB officiating was bogus.  Call Seattle fans bitter all you want but the fact is there were game changing calls that were admittedly blown by this ref in particular.  In what world does a QB go down at the 1 yard line pull the ball out from underneath his body and place it over the goal line while he is on the ground and have it ruled a TD?  Oh wait I forgot in the world of BS officiating and Ben Rothlisberger straight up cheating. 

I&#039;m not going to go so far as to say Seattle would  have won, because the simple fact is blown calls change outcomes, but it should have been a lot closer game than it was. Had that game been called fair the outcome might have been different but we will never know now.  So forgive us for not taking that loss at face value, but even my personal friends who happen to be Steeler fans admitted the refs helped them win that game.  Let&#039;s hope this ref at least has learned from his mistakes and will take more care in the future to make the right call.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those who say Seattle did not belong in that SB their record and performace in the 2005 regular season and their playoff performance says they did.  And nothing you can say will change that fact.  They got there fair and square and still took all the media BS for it.  </p>
<p>Even my husband a avid 49er fan recognized that SB officiating was bogus.  Call Seattle fans bitter all you want but the fact is there were game changing calls that were admittedly blown by this ref in particular.  In what world does a QB go down at the 1 yard line pull the ball out from underneath his body and place it over the goal line while he is on the ground and have it ruled a TD?  Oh wait I forgot in the world of BS officiating and Ben Rothlisberger straight up cheating. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not going to go so far as to say Seattle would  have won, because the simple fact is blown calls change outcomes, but it should have been a lot closer game than it was. Had that game been called fair the outcome might have been different but we will never know now.  So forgive us for not taking that loss at face value, but even my personal friends who happen to be Steeler fans admitted the refs helped them win that game.  Let&#8217;s hope this ref at least has learned from his mistakes and will take more care in the future to make the right call.</p>
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		<title>By: vegashawk</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2011 23:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@monsterscream

Ask the Saints.]]></description>
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<p>Ask the Saints.</p>
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		<title>By: discosucs2005</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2011 23:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know people think the Steelers were lucky, but I don&#039;t think any team gets to the Super Bowl without being lucky.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know people think the Steelers were lucky, but I don&#8217;t think any team gets to the Super Bowl without being lucky.</p>
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		<title>By: steelcurtainn</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2011 23:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Superbowls are the only thing that really matters.  And the Steelers got 6(and will get 7)Everything else is irrelevant.  I wouldn&#039;t be to proud to say my team won a championship after the 20&#039;s when there was only about 10 teams.  Of course people between age 50 and 90 would beg to differ.  


GO STEELERS!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Superbowls are the only thing that really matters.  And the Steelers got 6(and will get 7)Everything else is irrelevant.  I wouldn&#8217;t be to proud to say my team won a championship after the 20&#8242;s when there was only about 10 teams.  Of course people between age 50 and 90 would beg to differ.  </p>
<p>GO STEELERS!</p>
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		<title>By: i5197</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2011 22:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I saw that game I saw the afful calls that was the seahawks game and the ref screwed it up he should be out of the league]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw that game I saw the afful calls that was the seahawks game and the ref screwed it up he should be out of the league</p>
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		<title>By: axespray</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2011 21:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[3octaveFart says:Sep 13, 2011 4:28 PM
unclemoobaa1911 says:
 Sep 13, 2011 4:15 PM
 “P.S. Green Bay has 13 championships, thanks for coming out!”
 Most of which were simply awarded in popularity contests without the benefit of a game even being played, and before the invention of electricity.
We’re all still so terribly impressed
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50 years and your team has ... &quot;dust&quot;
but nice try. Have fun watching McNabb light up the league with his 39 passing yards per game.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>3octaveFart says:Sep 13, 2011 4:28 PM<br />
unclemoobaa1911 says:<br />
 Sep 13, 2011 4:15 PM<br />
 “P.S. Green Bay has 13 championships, thanks for coming out!”<br />
 Most of which were simply awarded in popularity contests without the benefit of a game even being played, and before the invention of electricity.<br />
We’re all still so terribly impressed<br />
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<p>50 years and your team has &#8230; &#8220;dust&#8221;<br />
but nice try. Have fun watching McNabb light up the league with his 39 passing yards per game.</p>
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