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Steelers apparently don’t understand the chop block rule

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As MDS pointed out earlier in the afternoon, the Steelers are complaining about the Ravens’ use of illegal chop blocks.

But the Steelers, and folks like ESPN’s Merril Hoge, apparently don’t understand the chop block rule.

An illegal chop block doesn’t occur when, for example, the center engages the nose tackle and one or both of the guards block him low.  Instead, an illegal chop block happens only when the offensive lineman delivering the low block was originally lined up more than one position away from the offensive lineman who initially has engaged the defender.

Here’s the official rule, which a league source has forwarded to PFT:  “On a running play, A1, an offensive lineman, chops a defensive player after the defensive player has been engaged by A2 (high or low), and the initial alignment of A2 is more than one position away from A1.  The rule applies only when the block occurs at a time when the flow of the play is clearly away from A1.”

And so, if the center hits a guy high and a tackle hits him low, it’s a penalty.  When it’s a center and one of the two guards, the chop block is not illegal.

An argument could be made that the rules should be changed, for the same reason that some think the rule regarding low blocks against defensive backs in the open field should be adjusted.  For now, however, the term “illegal chop block” has a definition far more narrow than the Steelers will either realize or admit.

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  1. tubs4560 says: Sep 15, 2011 3:44 PM

    Just because it’s legal doesn’t mean it’s kosher…

  2. vernhh says: Sep 15, 2011 3:44 PM

    In other words: we protect the QBs in the extreme, we protect WRs when we feel they are vulnerable, we protect RBs when we have to, but the big guys in the trenches can get bent….we really don’t care.

  3. m2karateman says: Sep 15, 2011 3:44 PM

    You lost Pittsburgh. Put on your big boy pants and stop whining about it. Better yet, put your six rings onto one hand and punch yourself in the face with it. Stop living in the past.

  4. jettmartinez says: Sep 15, 2011 3:44 PM

    “But the Steelers, and folks like ESPN’s Merril Hoge, apparently don’t understand the chop block rule.”

    Is there really a difference?

  5. urfinished says: Sep 15, 2011 3:44 PM

    I think the Steelers confidence after that whipping is on the chopping block! Hey-Oh! Zing!
    I’m here all week.
    Don’t forget to tip your waitress!

  6. pdxbolt says: Sep 15, 2011 3:45 PM

    Rules? Since when have the Steelers ever cared about rules?

  7. carnboys says: Sep 15, 2011 3:46 PM

    The Steelers will fine something else to whine about.

    They just got there butt kick by the ravens.
    and they lost against the packers in the superbowl. Deal with it and move on.

  8. flabtreesports says: Sep 15, 2011 3:46 PM

    Thank you. Smith could have saved the resident whiners some valuable spittle by doing the research before posting the first time.

  9. catquick says: Sep 15, 2011 3:46 PM

    Like the legal block Stevie Johnson put on Eric Berry

  10. mustbejealousof6 says: Sep 15, 2011 3:46 PM

    We are sick of the haters! We will strike the Steeler Hammer down on this league! This is just the beginning! We won’t tolerate the disrespect you give to your superiors! We will win this SB and leave to start our own league where REAL football can be played!

    We lost this game to trick the Rats into thinking they’re actually that good. Now, next game the hammer is coming down. We did this to trick the WHOLE LEAGUE. Open your eyes people. Great tactic by us.

    Don’t worry, your superiors are still superior. lolz

  11. cmich2006 says: Sep 15, 2011 3:46 PM

    Honestly first time I have ever heard that…I, and just about everyone, understood the rule as one high, one low is a chop bock.

  12. zoxitic says: Sep 15, 2011 3:46 PM

    The Steelers have jumped the shark.

  13. jpmelon says: Sep 15, 2011 3:46 PM

    The Steelers like to whine and complain about the game getting too soft….but then they get reemed by the Ravens and all of a sudden they think the game was too rough.

    Grow up….the fact is that the Steelers and their fans only complain about things when they affect the Steelers negatively….where were the complaints when the NFL handed them the superbowl vs. the Seahawks?

  14. deadeye says: Sep 15, 2011 3:47 PM

    Stupid Steelers, go form your own league with your own rules!

  15. mykelane says: Sep 15, 2011 3:47 PM

    oh great, here comes a new rules change.

  16. jakek2 says: Sep 15, 2011 3:48 PM

    The Steelers aren’t the only ones who don’t understand the chop block rule. As a non-Steelers fan, I thought an illegal chop block occurred anytime an offensive player went low on a defensive player who was already engaged.

    Well….I suppose like Goodell’s other nonsensical rules (i.e defenseless receiver, rough hit on QB), I’ll chalk this up to another modern football rule I don’t get.

  17. mcfluckey96 says: Sep 15, 2011 3:48 PM

    Im sick of the steelers whining all the time when they lose! The jets + pats shut their mouth when they lose. Grow up steeler bums. Your team is going backwards!

  18. bunkmcnulty says: Sep 15, 2011 3:48 PM

    How ’bout dem apples!

    Not sure, but the Steelers appear to need a therapist after this last game. They refuse to admit reality. They got wupped. Now they need to create excuses that aren’t true. Maybe some Prozac for their depression too.

  19. peytonwantsaflag says: Sep 15, 2011 3:48 PM

    Maybe Tomlin needs to stop talkin’ bout grapes and other nonsense and have a session or two on rules.

  20. ajc85 says: Sep 15, 2011 3:49 PM

    If Roethlisberger can’t even understand “She said no”, then how can they be expected to understand such a rule as this?

  21. jgreeno1980 says: Sep 15, 2011 3:50 PM

    Why change the rules for one team crying because they lost? I say teams do this to Ngata all the time.

  22. ronworthdubbs says: Sep 15, 2011 3:50 PM

    I have to admit I thought the rule didn’t matter where the second block came from either. However, it’s Thursday and the Steelers are still bitching about a game from last Sunday. They really should have moved on by now.

    Seahawks are going to catch them by surprise.

  23. ravensfan4life52 says: Sep 15, 2011 3:51 PM

    So this proves that the Steeler’s don’t know the rules. Maybe that’s why the refs target them.

  24. robsterny says: Sep 15, 2011 3:51 PM

    It sounds like sour-grapes on the Steelers part…because I find it hard to believe that they dont understand the rule.
    YOU LOST….GET OVER IT!!!

  25. jamie54 says: Sep 15, 2011 3:51 PM

    This should have been explained by whomever the analyst was and should be known across the board by players and especially coaches who need to communicate what and what is not legal. As fans we don’t have knowledge of these intricacies but there’s no excuse for a coaching staff not to know, especially when they sat on their butts for months during the lockout. Coaching 101, think a lot of them need refresher courses.

  26. Steelers Players Accuse Ravens Of Illegal Chop Blocks | Steelers Depot says: Sep 15, 2011 3:51 PM

    [...] Here is the rule below on this and supposedly these were not chop blocks as Yanda was not more than one position [...]

  27. mustbejealousof6 says: Sep 15, 2011 3:51 PM

    deadeye says:
    Sep 15, 2011 3:47 PM
    Stupid Steelers, go form your own league with your own rules!
    ———————

    We will! Watch!

  28. b7p19 says: Sep 15, 2011 3:51 PM

    Yada Yada Yada, Blah blah blah, drool, fart, we’re gonna start our own league…

  29. egls7 says: Sep 15, 2011 3:51 PM

    Well it is the steelers……

  30. tuckerblair89 says: Sep 15, 2011 3:51 PM

    I don’t think anyone has any sympathy for the Steelers.

  31. turdfurgerson68 says: Sep 15, 2011 3:53 PM

    Ok Steeler divas/fans….what excuses you gonna use now?

  32. billionsvsmillions says: Sep 15, 2011 3:53 PM

    mcfluckey96 says:Sep 15, 2011 3:48 PM

    Im sick of the steelers whining all the time when they lose! The jets + pats shut their mouth when they lose. Grow up steeler bums. Your team is going backwards!

    Fresh off a super bowl appearance, and going backwards? If thats backwards, I would hate to be your team watching the game on tv with no chance of winning. Mcmoron.

  33. ifyouthinkofgarbagethinkofakeem says: Sep 15, 2011 3:54 PM

    This is definitely a ” c’ mon man ” story.
    Chris berman: grape squashers , and now chop block
    Come oooonnnn maN!! Lol

  34. billionsvsmillions says: Sep 15, 2011 3:54 PM

    deadeye says:Sep 15, 2011 3:47 PM

    Stupid Steelers, go form your own league with your own rules!

    We have our own league, its called 6 super bowl trophy league.

  35. mustbejealousof6 says: Sep 15, 2011 3:55 PM

    6 RING NATION STAND UP!!! We must march and start our own league! We are not wanted here and we don’t want to be here! Everyone is against us because of our superiority! MARCH!

    7

  36. aequitas83 says: Sep 15, 2011 3:57 PM

    This is football 101. I’m going to give the Steelers and their players the benefit of the doubt and just say they were engaging in some PR (i.e., complaining). I suppose that’s better than being ignorant of some of the most basic rules in football.

  37. ebenezergrymm says: Sep 15, 2011 3:58 PM

    See guys, Mike Tomlin wanted to make a movie.

    A movie about Cowboys.

    A movie about Indians.

    And at the end of this movie the Steelers were either going to be the Cowboys or the Indians.

    But when the movie started….

    The Ravens started Tomahawk Chop blocking. So they were the Indians.

    And the Steelers… well, the Steelers lost. And we all know that losing is what the Cowboys do.

    The End.

  38. peytonwantsaflag says: Sep 15, 2011 4:00 PM

    So, just for clarification, when Hines Ward came across behind the line and got the bejesus knocked out of him if there would have been somebody else there blocking him low would that be a chop block? Or would Hines Ward when got the dogsh t knocked out of him had to have been the one hitting low? And not low like when he was flat on his butt from getting the snot knocked out of him but low because he tried to block low before getting his frickin’ head taken off?

    just wonderin

  39. kilo0986 says: Sep 15, 2011 4:00 PM

    6 rings. Keep hating and dreaming your team does what the Steelers have done. Go Steelers!

  40. jimbobobjr says: Sep 15, 2011 4:01 PM

    Hey humanoids, quit lumping all the Steeler fans in with the big-mouth players! Some of us just want them to shut up and play!

  41. ravensfan4life52 says: Sep 15, 2011 4:01 PM

    this also explains why Steeler’s fans keep talking about leaving the NFL and starting their own league. Their players and fans are either too stupid or too lazy to learn and understand the rules. please do leave and create your own league. No one will miss you and no one will watch your pathetic league.

  42. pigskinswag says: Sep 15, 2011 4:02 PM

    **pulls out violin and starts playing it**

  43. rayriceisnice says: Sep 15, 2011 4:02 PM

    Pretty suralthea other 31 teams would love for you to start your own league and play with yourselves, from the looks of last weeks effort it appears you started a bit early lolz

  44. jakek2 says: Sep 15, 2011 4:02 PM

    mustbejealousof6 –

    Admittedly, my Giants are not as good as Pitt right now. If I could convince them, would you mind if they joined your new league? They like to hit hard but get unnecessarily flagged as well. Sure, you might beat us 8 out of 10 times, but at least we’ll see some real hitting. Cool?

  45. makeanoise22 says: Sep 15, 2011 4:03 PM

    i personally don’t care what anyone thinks of my Steelers, We got beat by a better team period, and if any of you here don’t think that the Ravens play dirty sometimes, then you obviously don’t know much about football and the Raven – Steeler rivalry.

    Point is, WE GOT BEAT, next point is: RAVENS, we shall see you in November in Pittsburgh and older defense or not, the beat down is coming!

    now, you all can get back to hating on the Steelers, cause We don’t care ;)

  46. letemplay says: Sep 15, 2011 4:11 PM

    But can a game end in a tie?

  47. ravensfan4life52 says: Sep 15, 2011 4:11 PM

    *pulls out violin and beats the mess out of Ward with it and then attempts to play it*

  48. ravensos says: Sep 15, 2011 4:13 PM

    lol @ the “we are going to start our own league” crowd. you were definitely the kid who took the ball and went home.

  49. luckynumberlucas says: Sep 15, 2011 4:13 PM

    Imma call BS on that one…

    I’ve seen penalties for chop blocks where two adjoining players engaged high and low at the same time.

    Seems like the refs don’t understand the effin rule…

  50. alphaq2 says: Sep 15, 2011 4:13 PM

    After reading that I’m a bit confused too, but if anyone in that locker room has any questions about it just walk over to Hines Ward’s locker. I’m sure he can explain it to you.

  51. cd_ridge says: Sep 15, 2011 4:14 PM

    So it was a “legal” chop block. Does that make it any less dangerous? I thought Goodell is all about player safety. Apparently he cares about the safety of the so called “skill” positions and does not care about defensive players. Go figure.

  52. psuravens19 says: Sep 15, 2011 4:14 PM

    It’s Thursday… Shouldn’t they be focused on Seattle?

  53. chargerdillon says: Sep 15, 2011 4:15 PM

    Terrible towels and terrible at handling an asskicking

  54. Kaz says: Sep 15, 2011 4:16 PM

    The Stealers still complaining about week 1? All the cheating they’ve done now they want to complain about someone else smdh…

  55. pmac9102 says: Sep 15, 2011 4:18 PM

    Enough of the six rings bull****. Seriously, that’s all I see in every post. The Steelers lost to a better team. Simple as that. Doesn’t mean the Steelers are garbage, because they’re not. The Ravens just put together a better gameplan. Steelers need to stop whining and prepare for the next game.

  56. cgalaxy says: Sep 15, 2011 4:20 PM

    mustbejealousof6 says: Sep 15, 2011 3:46 PM

    We are sick of the haters! We will strike the Steeler Hammer down on this league! This is just the beginning! We won’t tolerate the disrespect you give to your superiors! We will win this SB and leave to start our own league where REAL football can be played!

    We lost this game to trick the Rats into thinking they’re actually that good. Now, next game the hammer is coming down. We did this to trick the WHOLE LEAGUE. Open your eyes people. Great tactic by us.

    Don’t worry, your superiors are still superior. lolz

    ————————————————————————————-

    Don’t feed the troll!

  57. rooneyguy says: Sep 15, 2011 4:20 PM

    steelers manned up and gave credit where it was due. i havent heard ben, clark,farrior, tomlin, et al make any excuse other than the ravens were by far the better executing team on sunday.

    hampton made one comment (though he didnt whine to the refs liike most guys would) and the media is blowing it up because tbey know steelers headlines get read. period.

    this is a non issue in the pgh locker room.

    its gonna be even netter winning the division this year since baltimore already reserved rooms in indy…

  58. runrickyrun34 says: Sep 15, 2011 4:21 PM

    From a safety standpoint the only thing I can think that separates what legal vs illegal is the momentum of the low guy. If a guy has a chance to hit you low from two positions away maybe the league is trying to protect the engaged lineman from absorbing more force. Just because it’s legal doesn’t make it any less dangerous.

    With that said, as a Ravens fan I don’t really care because the Ravens griped about legal hits from Ward that are seen as “not kosher” as stated earlier and no one seems to have a problem nor should they because it’s within the rules. It sucks but it’s the rules. And I’m sure it occurs more than it’s complained about so I’m not too sad for him. It’s his right to voice his opinion and the next time the teams meet do something about it, within the rules that is. If there were a significant amount of missed chop block calls then I will concede and say he is absolutely right.

  59. cannonballdookie says: Sep 15, 2011 4:23 PM

    mustbejealousof6 says: Sep 15, 2011 3:46 PM

    We are sick of the haters! We will strike the Steeler Hammer down on this league! This is just the beginning! We won’t tolerate the disrespect you give to your superiors! We will win this SB and leave to start our own league where REAL football can be played!

    We lost this game to trick the Rats into thinking they’re actually that good. Now, next game the hammer is coming down. We did this to trick the WHOLE LEAGUE. Open your eyes people. Great tactic by us.

    Don’t worry, your superiors are still superior. lolz
    ___________________________________

    I’m sick of reading this crap in every topic on here, give it a rest. You give Steelers fans a bad name.

  60. knowerofallthings says: Sep 15, 2011 4:24 PM

    Steelers = old, tired, done

  61. managod777 says: Sep 15, 2011 4:24 PM

    Chop blocks…Stevie Johnson on Eric Berry…just get Goodell to change the rules like he did during the season last year because ESPN showed 3 or 4 awesome blowups in 1 week. Keep changing, and quarterbacks will not be the only ones with skirts. Let’s just make football gentle…take out all the “violent” contact and women will be playing in no time. Like the old saying goes, “Be careful what you ask for…you just might get it!~”

  62. jus10jonez says: Sep 15, 2011 4:24 PM

    Is it just me or does anyone else notice that the Steelers complain about rules NO MATTER WHAT THE CALL IS? They almost act like the rules should be in favor of them on every play. They talk about playing real, rough football but when someone does it to them then it’s not fair and a penalty/fine needs to be enforced.

  63. Mr. Wright 212 says: Sep 15, 2011 4:25 PM

    They just crying because they got SMACKED. That it all. Week 2, you are on the clock!

  64. drgreenstreak says: Sep 15, 2011 4:28 PM

    I just can’t get it thru my skull that the Steelers, of all teams would cry about illegal blocks. Hines Ward invented blindside hits. James Harrison defined “cheap shot”.
    Unbelievable.

  65. Mr. Wright 212 says: Sep 15, 2011 4:28 PM

    jpmelon says: Sep 15, 2011 3:46 PM

    The Steelers like to whine and complain about the game getting too soft….but then they get reemed by the Ravens and all of a sudden they think the game was too rough.

    Grow up….the fact is that the Steelers and their fans only complain about things when they affect the Steelers negatively….where were the complaints when the NFL handed them the superbowl vs. the Seahawks?
    ————-

    EXACTLY.

  66. brewlandia says: Sep 15, 2011 4:28 PM

    I’m gonna FedEx a box of Huggies to “Heinz Field – Attn: Casey Hampton” and I’ll report back whether or not the package gets accepted.

  67. feldman9000 says: Sep 15, 2011 4:29 PM

    mustbejealousof6 says:
    Sep 15, 2011 3:46 PM
    We are sick of the haters! We will strike the Steeler Hammer down on this league! This is just the beginning! We won’t tolerate the disrespect you give to your superiors! We will win this SB and leave to start our own league where REAL football can be played!

    We lost this game to trick the Rats into thinking they’re actually that good. Now, next game the hammer is coming down. We did this to trick the WHOLE LEAGUE. Open your eyes people. Great tactic by us.

    Don’t worry, your superiors are still superior. lolz

    ———

    You sir are a walking joke full of lulz.

  68. donpiton says: Sep 15, 2011 4:33 PM

    I wish they would just shut up about this. I get it, you lost and you’re pissed. Get over it. I just hope Raven fans aren’t crying when Ngata gets his knees blown out by the exact same play. It is a legal hit after all….

  69. throwmetheidol says: Sep 15, 2011 4:35 PM

    Steelers don’t seem to understand any rules how is this surprising at all?

  70. daysend564 says: Sep 15, 2011 4:35 PM

    Comical!

    Steelers crying about cheap shots and illegal plays.

  71. Foresight2011 says: Sep 15, 2011 4:35 PM

    Bad rule, I am pretty sure if chop block was removed from the game, the Steelers would have only lost 28-7.

  72. donpiton says: Sep 15, 2011 4:35 PM

    BTW, if I’m an offensive lineman from any of the other teams in the NFL, I’m doing this every game since it is legal. We’ll see how many knees are blown before they change that rule.

  73. claymus1 says: Sep 15, 2011 4:40 PM

    @ must have an IQ of 6….You gonna be bent after Seattle kick fire from your steelers behind this weekend! LOL !

  74. citizenstrange says: Sep 15, 2011 4:47 PM

    Steelers apparently don’t understand the chop block rule.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Next time they probably shouldn’t have Mike Tomlin explain it to them.

  75. descendency says: Sep 15, 2011 4:50 PM

    The Steelers don’t understand any rules.

  76. 92and94and51and56 says: Sep 15, 2011 4:53 PM

    The Colts lose 34-7.
    The Chiefs lose 41-7.
    The Steelers lose 35-7.

    Yet all anyone has talked about ad nauseam is the Black and Gold.

    Why? Because it’s the Steelers. The only one of those teams with a standard in the highest echelon of the league. A team everyone is so afraid of deep down, that when they lose this bad, you rejoice because it affords just a tiny glimmer of hope that maybe….JUST MAYBE…your team can aspire to that standard.

    Best part about it; it’s Thursday and all anyone has talked about is how bad the Steelers got beat. I don’t recall too many headlines about the Ravens this week.

    OH WAIT. I forgot about McAlister living in his parents’ basement. There was that.

    See you in the playoffs…well, some of you at least.

  77. mswravens says: Sep 15, 2011 4:54 PM

    WOW! Anything else the Steelers can lose this week? Game v. Ravens and manhood have already been decimated…

  78. buckybadger says: Sep 15, 2011 4:57 PM

    Players need to stop pointing fingers at each other and get the rule changed. My knees are ruined from a chop block and that was ugh, don’t even want to say how long ago.

  79. iamthefootballjerk says: Sep 15, 2011 5:01 PM

    You got to love the Steelers and their fans; not.

    First, they make fun of the fans for pointing out actual rule infractions during the course of a game.

    However, when the Steelers lose, they complain about legal plays and good officiating (see chop blocks, hits to the head and defenseless receivers).

    May not like the rules, but they are actual rules. So get over it!

  80. jamaltimore says: Sep 15, 2011 5:03 PM

    I hope merril hodge donated his brain to science because he is obviously a victim of concussions and has lost his mind.

    As the G.O.A.T. says: IT”S A MAN”s GAME a comment that the steelers seem to agree with when they are illegally hitting, getting phantom calls and winning thanks to every dirty trick in the book. Now they come out totally not ready to play, old , slow and tired so they whine!

    Time to unleash hell you punks!

  81. bravin4evr says: Sep 15, 2011 5:04 PM

    I was wondering why some fan’s were saying the ravens were chop blocking/playing dirty. If they were blocking according to the rules then, no it’s not dirty out illegal; but the way the rule is written is stupid and now I do understand the comments.

  82. mike83ri says: Sep 15, 2011 5:05 PM

    Tiki is flabbergasted.

  83. mustbejealousof6 says: Sep 15, 2011 5:07 PM

    The Steeler Nation’s dominance in this league is unmatched. 6
    Superior fan base – check
    Superior players – check
    Superior coaches – check
    Superior front office – check
    Superior facilities – check
    Superior media – check
    Superior at being superior – check

    This is why the this team has so many haters. This will continue as long as we’re around. We will win our 7th Lombardi and leave to start our own league.

    This league will consist of the Steelers organization (this means the superior facets listed above) ONLY. We will establish rules from the ground up. These rules will stick to the foundations the game was based on. 112 members of the NFL may enter this league after deemed “pure”. We’ll introduce our own draft system that will partake every year. The team will then be divided into 8 teams from the first season. The system is subject to change after every football year.

    Everyone prepare for the SFL

  84. fringetastic says: Sep 15, 2011 5:12 PM

    “And so, if the center hits a guy high and a tackle hits him low, it’s a penalty. When it’s a center and one of the two guards, the chop block is not illegal.”

    Wait. What about the last sentence of the quoted rule?
    “The rule applies only when the block occurs at a time when the flow of the play is clearly away from A1″

    Doesn’t that mean if the play is going toward the center, it is legal for a tackle (or RB or TE…) to block low?

    It is probably easier to imagine a TE coming across the formation and hitting a DE on an end-around or something, but as long as the carrier is coming toward the DE, a low block sounds legal according to that rule. Doesn’t it?

  85. Deb says: Sep 15, 2011 5:15 PM

    Crazy ’bout my Steelers but the next time they see a reporter, wish they’d ask “What would Lambert do?” Because Jack–and teammates nicknamed Mean Joe and Mad Dog–wouldn’t whine to the media that “it’s one game not the Super Bowl,” “I just had a bad day,” or “they were chop blocked me and the refs ignored it.” Those guys would be focused on prepping for the next game–the way these guys should have been after the Super Bowl.

    Come on, man.

  86. Deb says: Sep 15, 2011 5:20 PM

    @mustbejealousof6 …

    Hey, 6ringsjealousblahblahblahyouremptytrophycase7 …

    We’re flattered you’ve chosen “Obnoxious Steeler Fan” as your early Halloween costume, but haven’t you got some Pats or Cowboys fans to annoy? Their haters need love, too.

  87. fmwarner says: Sep 15, 2011 5:21 PM

    Pretty funny that the quintessential rule-benders are complaining about something perfectly legal.

    Go ahead and start your own league with “manly” rules. It was a resounding success last time when it was called the XFL.

    Oh, wait.

  88. dandrews021 says: Sep 15, 2011 5:24 PM

    mustbejealousof6 is the epitome of why most people don’t like Steelers fans. The sense of entitlement is vomit inducing.

  89. rectumnearlykilledem says: Sep 15, 2011 5:24 PM

    Apparently their QB doesn’t understand what “no” means also.

  90. nevermore81 says: Sep 15, 2011 5:26 PM

    The dirtiest team in the NFL is complaining about the refs? You would think they would be thankful all their cheap shots after the play were ignored. Since when is it okay to throw repeated punches while tackling someone after the play?

  91. bigdaddydooko says: Sep 15, 2011 5:27 PM

    I like all the posts saying the Steelers lost and they need to just get over it and move on and quit living in the past. But then everytime someone wants to bash the Steelers, they mention how they should have never won Super Bowl XL and probably not XLIII…etc., etc.

    I agree that the Steelers got absolutely manhandled in the last game and chop blocking wasn’t the reason. And the Steelers should stop complaining and focus on getting themselves ready to not be embarrassed against the Seahawks. However I get annoyed by hypocrisy.

  92. johntonioholmes says: Sep 15, 2011 5:32 PM

    Blind side blocks were considered legal, but dirty. That type of block is do different–legal but cheap.

  93. stealersfannot says: Sep 15, 2011 5:58 PM

    The case isn’t whether they were illegal blocks, because it’s been proven that they weren’t.

    Now the case is why the Steelers are ignorant of the rules. You can excuse fans for being ignorant of the rules. They don’t make a living doing this stuff. But an entire franchise?

    Then the case is, why are the players still bitching about it on the back end of the week?

    Talk about hang over.

    Get over it, you got beat. Now get your act toghether and prove you’re the better team the next time these guys come to your neck of the woods.

  94. ravenator says: Sep 15, 2011 6:01 PM

    I could fill up a storm drain with all these tears from Stooler players and fans!

    Soooo pathetic!

  95. cbass59 says: Sep 15, 2011 6:11 PM

    Oh and BTW, the Steelers were not whining. They were asked about it and answered. This is so common with the NASCAR/white trash element on NFL message boards. Players get asked question by the media, players answer, reporters like the ones for this website act as if they are spouting off like TO, and the hater call names to make their crappy lives seem better.

  96. getyourownname says: Sep 15, 2011 6:12 PM

    In the urban slang dictionary, under “Love to dish it, but can’t take it”, is a picture of a guy in a black and gold jersey.

  97. bozosforall says: Sep 15, 2011 6:18 PM

    dandrews021 says:
    Sep 15, 2011 5:24 PM
    mustbejealousof6 is the epitome of why most people don’t like Steelers fans. The sense of entitlement is vomit inducing.

    __
    Yeah, he sounds just like modern-day Pats fans. Modern-day because prior to Spygate their team pretty much SUCKED.

  98. nesuperfan says: Sep 15, 2011 6:27 PM

    In related news, while thinking about this rule, Donovan McNabb’s head exploded.

  99. nevermore81 says: Sep 15, 2011 6:37 PM

    The Steelers are flabbergasted anytime the rules are applied to them.

  100. supashug says: Sep 15, 2011 6:42 PM

    THEY ARE IMPLODING

    Gotta love this dribble

    ———–

    The Steeler Nation’s dominance in this league is unmatched. 6
    Superior fan base – check
    Superior players – check
    Superior coaches – check
    Superior front office – check
    Superior facilities – check
    Superior media – check
    Superior at being superior – check

    —————

    SUPERIOR AT BEING THE RAVENS BITCH IN WEEK ONE – CHECK

  101. nevermore81 says: Sep 15, 2011 6:51 PM

    Ben Roethlesberger does not understand the rules either. He can not seem to grasp that Rape is illegal.

  102. refsburgh says: Sep 15, 2011 6:54 PM

    This website is hilarious.

    First, you’ve got the irony of “Knowerofallthings” saying something wrong in every post.

    Then, you’ve got the 6 rings guy expecting people to praise 6 championships when the packers have 13.

  103. ampatsisahypocrite says: Sep 15, 2011 6:55 PM

    There’s a difference between tough and cheap — tough is Hines Ward smashing Ed Reed head-on, face to face. Cheap is what happened Sunday, with one Ravens OL hitting Hampton high, while the other dives into his knees. Go to 14:54 1st quarter you’ll see what I mean. I don’t care WHAT the rule says, that’s just cheap and wrong.

    Any Ravens fan (especially those skirt wearers on the Scout message board) who defends this, or acts like it’s “whining” is just a blind apologist. Harbaugh cried all last year about the Steelers, now look… tsk tsk.

  104. refsburgh says: Sep 15, 2011 6:57 PM

    Wow I just noticed this “bozosforall” guy saying the patriots sucked before spygate even though they went to the super bowl 3 years before belichick got there.

  105. ravenator says: Sep 15, 2011 7:02 PM

    Enough with the whining, it’s pathetic. I thought they were far better than that but obviously the grapes are now rotten. So they can give it, but can’t take it? Real manly…

    Ravens had every opportunity to throw dirt on the Steelers after the victory but took the high road. Meanwhile, the Steelers are still reeling and the Ravens are preparing for Tennessee. Pretty obvious which team is superior.

  106. Deb says: Sep 15, 2011 7:08 PM

    ampatsisahypocrite says:
    cbass59 says:

    ————————————–

    Fellas, I’m not a Ravens fan, and cbass59, I’m sure not white trash. I love the Steelers, have been a diehard fan for more than three decades, and will still love them ’til I draw my last breath. But I don’t care if it’s a cheap play and I don’t care if a reporter asked them about it. They need to STHU and focus on preparing for the next game. Be honest … if the tables were turned, and we’d slaughtered the Ravens, and their players were whining (yes, whining) about cheap shots and getting screwed by the refs, we’d be having a field day with it on these threads.

  107. ravens26 says: Sep 15, 2011 7:16 PM

    Always respects the Steelers as a tough team. What happened? Cheese with your whine?

    Just shut and play.

  108. turgidsen says: Sep 15, 2011 7:25 PM

    What they dont understand is that they are TOO OLD ,TOO SLOW and they can’t jump OVER the legal cut block.

  109. fancyleague says: Sep 15, 2011 7:40 PM

    Oh good, we won’t even get flagged for snapping Ngata’s leg in half.

  110. upyoursnfu says: Sep 15, 2011 7:47 PM

    So many Ravens fans on the internet….I didn’t know the Dundalkians on welfare could afford computers.

  111. ravenator says: Sep 15, 2011 7:51 PM

    @fancyleague

    Kind of hard to do that when your STARTING guard forgets to block. Steelers were outplayed, plain and simple, eat it.

  112. wtf2812 says: Sep 15, 2011 7:51 PM

    @ravenator … Ravens didn’t throw dirt? Took the high road??? LMFAO!!

    This, my Baltimoron friend, is why the Ravens as an organization will NEVER be where the Steelers organization is:

    1. With 9 minites left and up 32-9, the Ravens are still chucking the ball. The Steelers (and most other quality teams) are pounding the ball up the middle to keep the clock running and making sure nobody gets injured before the game ends.

    2. As the final minutes were winding down, CBS showed Ravens coaches and players hugging each other like they just won the Super Bowl. Watch ANY Steelers game (unless it is the one that GETS you to a SB or WINS it and you will see Tomlin smiling on the sidelines when they win big, but there is never any hugging or high-fiving. All that tells me is who it means more to to win THAT game. Obviously, the Ravens. The Steelers know any win – no matter how big the margin or the foe – is just one win in the season. Same with a loss. I’ve never seen the Steelers act that way after beatingthe Ravens, unless it was deep in the playoffs, certainly not on Week 1 of the regular season. Seriously.

    The Ravens organization, at this point, just doesn’t get it. They were so tired of getting their asses kicked by the Steelers WHEN IT REALLY COUNTS that they celebrated like little kids on Christmas Day when they smacked the Steelers in Game 1 – And, yes, they smacked the Steelers like little girls. It was embarrassing.

    You guys can all say what you want. It amazes me how deep the hatred (most likely jealousy) is for the Steelers.

    And, BTW … I think the Steelers fan who wants to start his own league is more retarded than some of you other idiots on here.

    I just long for the days when sites like this were for intelligent football bantering and not mindless, jealous, nyah-nyah BS that goes on.

    Me? I’m so glad it’s only Week 1. Come see me when it’s Week 17 and talk sh*t on the Steelers then. If they are out of the running, I will agree with you.

    Go back to your meaningless lives and try to think of something uselful to say (And, yes, I know there are Steeler fans who are in that grouping as well).

    Peace.

  113. rabidbillsfan says: Sep 15, 2011 8:05 PM

    ^^^^^

    Ok yourr an idiot. 32-9? You lost all credibility right there.

    Anyway, the rule is intended to protect players from pulling linemen. For all of you experts out there, ask tom cable and mike shannahan how a zone blocking scheme works. You block the guy in the zone, whether he is engaged or not. Next, this actually should have helped the Steelers. Your inside guy essentially ate up 2 blockers, therefore you should have a free runner somewhere. Eliminate the legality of these blocks, and game planning for the running game goes out the window. Also, nobody was hurt, except foe their egos, so stfu.

  114. tinbender2000 says: Sep 15, 2011 8:09 PM

    mustbejealousof6 says: Sep 15, 2011 5:07 PM

    The Steeler Nation’s dominance in this league is unmatched. 6
    Superior fan base – check
    Superior players – check
    Superior coaches – check
    Superior front office – check
    Superior facilities – check
    Superior media – check
    Superior at being superior – check
    —————————————————-
    Yes the Steelers have six rings, most of them before you were born. The Raiders have three, one of them against the Steelers, also before you were born.
    The Raiders have a “Commitment to Excellence”
    The Steelers have “Superior at being Superior” courtesy of #1 Dorkboy Fan.
    Get off Mommys computer, you’re embarrassing your team.

  115. coachglove says: Sep 15, 2011 8:18 PM

    I think much of the confusion exists because people are skipping a key part of the rule above…”on a RUN play…” On a pass play, a high/low engagement is a penalty regardless of who does it. As is influencing a defensive lineman upfield and then chopping (you may fire out and chop, but not attempt a retreating pass block and then chop). In addition, all legal chop blocks must take place within the tackle box.

  116. ravensman says: Sep 15, 2011 8:19 PM

    @wtf2812:

    Thank you for the compliments! It makes me feel all warm and fuzzy that you have so much love for Ravens fans!
    If respecting the Steeler organization and their fans makes me an idiot in your eyes, then I’m just thrilled!
    My opinion – and I’m sure you’ll disagree – is that calling the entire fanbase of a team “idiots” or “retarded” (nice choice of a term there!) by the words and actions of a few is just wrong. Most Steeler fans I encounter are pleasant, friendly and enjoy the rivalry.
    And a big thank you for giving us Ravens fans permission to go back to our meaningless lives.

  117. ravenator says: Sep 15, 2011 8:20 PM

    @wtf2812

    What you’ve just typed is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

    Ravens 35
    Steelers 7

    Who’s your daddy!

  118. axespray says: Sep 15, 2011 8:24 PM

    Can’t ESPN just pull an old yellar’ with Merril already?

  119. dumbaseinstien says: Sep 15, 2011 8:26 PM

    More of the same from M.F., bad-mouthing the steelers every chance he gets. Clearly, the Steelers have whipped his teams arse about 10 times too many so he continues to cry into his proverbial ink!! Punk…

  120. bodhizuffa says: Sep 15, 2011 8:28 PM

    I guess I’m a rare Steelers fan in that I’m a realist. They are getting old, but u don’t go from SB to futile in one off season. they weren’t ready to play. They were outcoached and outplayed by the Ravens. Give them credit. No one seems to be talking about Tomlin and his staff. Tomlin hasn’t outcoached anyone in his career. See SB. Bruce Arians is one of the worst o coordinators in the league and LeBeau’s system is obsolete. If Tomlin is as good as people say he is, he will address these issues. He has had success with a Cowher heavy roster (in the right places) and Cowher’s teams never acted like this. Get your head out of your rear, Mike, and show us what u are made of.

  121. philtration says: Sep 15, 2011 8:31 PM

    I don’t care for the Steelers constant whining either but I wonder how many of the people here who tell them to “Stop crying and move on” were the very same people that could not shut the hell up about Calvin Jones and his botched TD last year.

  122. capitaloffense says: Sep 15, 2011 8:34 PM

    Just to clarify, One high, one low is the definition of a chop block. They are discussing ILLEGAL chop blocks.

  123. philtration says: Sep 15, 2011 8:34 PM

    philtration says: Sep 15, 2011 8:31 PM

    I don’t care for the Steelers constant whining either but I wonder how many of the people here who tell them to “Stop crying and move on” were the very same people that could not shut the hell up about Calvin Jones and his botched TD last year.

    =================================
    Calvin Johnson.

  124. 6ringsofsteal says: Sep 15, 2011 8:36 PM

    Why do my comments keep disappearing? Steelers make the rules we do not have to follow them! GOT IT!

  125. wtf2812 says: Sep 15, 2011 8:41 PM

    @ravenator, whatever. I typoed the 32-7, but you get my point … or maybe you are too retarded not to.

    Trust me, I lost no sleep over the Steelers beat-down because, unlike many of you, my life is not tied to what my favorite team does. Hell, I CAN admit when my team gets stomped. Dude, it happens. But it is one game. I do have a life outside of rooting for the Steelers. And I certainly won’t try to get into an ass-kicking contest with a one-legged man.

    And thanks, I appreciate your prayers for me. You aren’t so bad after all. LOL

  126. nevermore81 says: Sep 15, 2011 8:57 PM

    steel did not lose nothing! we will be back for realz!

  127. wtf2812 says: Sep 15, 2011 9:00 PM

    @ravensman … I did not state ALL Ravens fans are idiots. On the contrary, I have had some really good back-and-forth from some Ravens fans in the past (ravenation, I think, is one). I was just talking about the tools on this particular thread of which, unfortunately, there are many.

    I respect the Ravens. I love the way they play. I love it when they play the Steelers. I like to watch their games on TV.

    I just hate the garbage on this site. It doesn’t have to be that way.

  128. bigbirdsfan says: Sep 15, 2011 9:23 PM

    Not a Steelers or Ravens fan, but I saw enough to know that when they meet in November, the Steelers will play with vengeance instead of heart and will lose 34-7…and note to Steelers fans, the ravens appeared to always be 5 steps ahead of your defense because they are in fact old…your defense was pathetic. That wasn’t a bad game, it was an old fashioned beat down. The Steelers will probably limp into the playoffs, but that is it for many years to come…lot of bad contracts…

  129. critter69 says: Sep 15, 2011 9:57 PM

    The fans of a certain NFL team in western Pennsylvania think their team can do no wrong, but EVERY other team can and does wrong, especially against thier ‘favored’ team?

    The fans of a certain NFL team in western Pennsylvania wonder why almost everyone else either doesn’t like them, or has an absolute hate for them?

  130. minnysoda says: Sep 15, 2011 10:15 PM

    mustbejealousof6 says:
    Sep 15, 2011 3:46 PM
    We are sick of the haters! We will strike the Steeler Hammer down on this league! This is just the beginning! We won’t tolerate the disrespect you give to your superiors! We will win this SB and leave to start our own league where REAL football can be played!

    We lost this game to trick the Rats into thinking they’re actually that good. Now, next game the hammer is coming down. We did this to trick the WHOLE LEAGUE. Open your eyes people. Great tactic by us.

    Don’t worry, your superiors are still superior. lolz
    =================================

    Wow are you the new Pervy Harvin but instead of the Vikes it’s the Steelers.Why are you doing this to show what morons Steeler fans are?

    BTW your tactics are great Way to lull everyone into a false sense of security.But you haven’t planned that well The Vikings have done a much better Job of it and we will prevail MWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  131. ravensman says: Sep 15, 2011 10:16 PM

    @wtf2812:

    Please accept my apologies. Obviously I misunderstood your post in question. While I am 100% to blame for the misunderstanding, I guess it comes from being on this site for a while and dealing with quite a few obnoxious fans, and the trolls. But those types are everywhere, and fortunately here it’s only in print – I’ve seen several situations in a few different stadiums that were quite intense by opposing fans.
    As to the Steelers – they are one of the best teams in the league, as are the Ravens. Of course I like my hometown team better, but if the Steelers were in another division, I might actually find myself cheering for them (notice I only said I MIGHT). While there are a few players that are exceptions, the Steelers are a class organization.
    Last year, when the Steelers dominated the Ravens, our team – and the fans cried “foul” due to questionable calls by the officials. As far as I’m concerned, what the Steelers are saying now is no different.
    Once again, please accept my apologies.

  132. redskinsrt says: Sep 15, 2011 10:34 PM

    They play how often? So the time they lose it’s an issue? LOL

  133. randomcommenter says: Sep 16, 2011 12:27 AM

    wheter it’s technically a penalty or not, it is clearly very dangerous. Why would it matter if the low block comes from the Guard or the tackle? It’s essentially the same block and the same danger to the defender.

    This is like saying that the OLB can’t hit a WR over the middle but the MLB can because he’s closer.

    This once again shows that the NFL’s safety concerns are insincere. These low blocks favor the offense and that’s what matters to the NFL.

  134. beyofparadise23 says: Sep 16, 2011 6:27 AM

    Squealers still Squealing!

  135. ravenut06 says: Sep 16, 2011 6:50 AM

    First I respect the Steelers, but you have to respect any team that is as good as they are, as well as my Ravens. With that said the Steelers lost there respect for the Ravens and looked on to the next big game. Seeing that they have won 6 in a row with Ben at QB. Thats why they got beat the way they did. Now they want to focus on the issues they feel is why they lost to the Ravens, and not focus on the Seahawks…….do not be surprised if they lose this week as well.

    All I hear is 6 rings this and 6 rings that……..well answer me this, how many of those 6 rings were won in 2011???? This is a new year and a new team, at least for the Ravens. Those 6 rings didnt help you last week did it.

  136. dhudge says: Sep 16, 2011 8:09 AM

    @ mustbejealousof6…

    To quote the everlasting & immortal words by Archie Bunker:

    “SHUT UP, MEATHEAD!”

  137. Titans Prepared For Ravens Cut Blocks says: Sep 17, 2011 9:50 AM

    [...] only when the block occurs at a time when the flow of the play is clearly away from A1. Source: Steelers apparently don’t understand the chop block rule | ProFootballTalk So much for player safety…right? ——————- click signature to make a signature [...]

  138. pftequalsgreatjournalism says: Sep 17, 2011 10:10 AM

    m2karateman says:Sep 15, 2011 3:44 PM

    You lost Pittsburgh. Put on your big boy pants and stop whining about it. Better yet, put your six rings onto one hand and punch yourself in the face with it. Stop living in the past.
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    +1 million

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