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Chargers get a break on scheduling

Mike Tolbert AP

While the late start on Sunday gives Pats fans extra time to get “lubed up,” it gives the Chargers extra time to do something far more important.

Sleep.

In 2011, the Chargers will play only one game that kicks off at 10:00 a.m. local time, as recently pointed out by the San Diego Union-Tribune.  It’s the fewest early starts they’ve had in at least 15 years.

“Good, that’s how it should be,” safety Eric Weddle told the Union-Tribune.  “[Games at] 10 a.m. are the worst.  I don’t care what anyone says.  Just your body, mentality, physically, you’re just not up.  It takes you a quarter, and that’s a huge advantage whether you can get down or if you can maintain just staying even with team.  You know the records . . . not just us.  Everyone.”

In the past five years, teams based in the Pacific time zone have won 35 and lost 74 games that start at 1:00 p.m. ET.

This year, the other four West Coast teams play at least five 10:00 a.m. local time games, each.

That will definitely be an issue on Sunday for the Raiders, given that they had a short week after a road game in Denver, and that they’ll be playing at 1:00 p.m. ET in Buffalo.

Also this week, the Seahawks play the Steelers at 1:00 p.m. ET, and the Cardinals play the Redskins at 1:00 p.m. ET.  Though we’re not advocating for an increase in 4:05/4:15 p.m. ET starts, at a minimum the West Coast team that has to play an early game on the other side of the country should at least play a home game the prior week — and not be required to play an early game after playing on a Monday night, either home or away.

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  1. SpartaChris says: Sep 17, 2011 9:33 PM

    “Good, that’s how it should be,” safety Eric Weddle told the Union-Tribune. “[Games at] 10 a.m. are the worst. I don’t care what anyone says. Just your body, mentality, physically, you’re just not up. It takes you a quarter, and that’s a huge advantage whether you can get down or if you can maintain just staying even with team. You know the records . . . not just us. Everyone.”

    ============================
    Right, because the rest of the league should revolve around you…

  2. briank1ne says: Sep 17, 2011 9:34 PM

    So that explains why my niners cant get it done. I knew it wasnt singltarys fault.. smh go to sleep earlier get up and drink some jacked. Cmon now. No excuses!

  3. beauregard says: Sep 17, 2011 9:38 PM

    Oh, I thought the article was about getting to play the Broncos twice.

  4. kowallazy says: Sep 17, 2011 9:38 PM

    Serious? Plenty of the rest of us work at 9am or earlier. Quit whining.

  5. mattsffrd says: Sep 17, 2011 9:39 PM

    they should make a rule that says west coast teams play at 4PM when playing on the east coast. it wouldn’t be hard at all and would make the game fair for all teams.

  6. dbellina says: Sep 17, 2011 9:39 PM

    I wish I could complain about having to show up to work at 10am.

  7. trenaro says: Sep 17, 2011 9:40 PM

    This is a no brainer. For a West coast team, make all East coast games 4:05/4:15 p.m. ET starts!

  8. koq11357 says: Sep 17, 2011 9:40 PM

    How does Arizona, a completely landlocked state, qualify as a West Coast team?

  9. Canyonero says: Sep 17, 2011 9:43 PM

    Does Weddle like to have a hot cocoa and get his footsie-wootsies rubbed before going on the field too?

    Jeez what a crybaby.

  10. edukator4 says: Sep 17, 2011 9:43 PM

    has anyone thought that maybe the west teams just are not tjat good overall. dont tell me professional athletes cant play a game their paid millions for at 10am if need be.
    first fly over earlier if time adjustment is really that big a deal
    second evryone else in the world seems to be able to work in the morning, harden up. its running, catching and tackling, get over yourselves

  11. kelvinmchale says: Sep 17, 2011 9:47 PM

    Go Patriots!

  12. trbowman says: Sep 17, 2011 9:55 PM

    “Serious? Plenty of the rest of us work at 9am or earlier. Quit whining.”

    Yeah but you’re sitting at a desk, these guys have to play a football game.

  13. denverdave3 says: Sep 17, 2011 9:55 PM

    Oh, I thought the article was about getting to play the Broncos twice.

    I am a Bronco fan and even I thought that one was funny

  14. richgannon says: Sep 17, 2011 9:56 PM

    RUN DMC is a 24 hour work horse the bills dont know what theyre getting into wether it be 10 am or 10 pm its gonna be lights out

  15. sickpuppyz says: Sep 17, 2011 9:59 PM

    The reason the west coast teams lost so many games at 10 am is because they generally suck (less the Chargers) and not because of the scheduling. If anyone wishes to contest this then feel free to look at their records during the rest of the playing times. Guaranteed it won’t be positive.

  16. Deb says: Sep 17, 2011 10:04 PM

    You know, that’s doesn’t seem right. The West Coast teams should automatically get the late starts. Or maybe they should just all move to Minnesota ;)

  17. rectumnearlykilledem says: Sep 17, 2011 10:07 PM

    The Chargers hate it so bad in San Diego they’re trying to move. No fan support, no city support, it’s pretty sad. West Coast football = soft.

  18. thetruth619 says: Sep 17, 2011 10:08 PM

    How is he whining? This has been argued by many. It does give an unfair advantage to teams in the East. They could easily schedule the games for 4pm.

    And how does their salary have anything to do with fair competition? People need to get over the fact that athletes have a skill that happens to be worth more money than yours.

  19. dannymac17 says: Sep 17, 2011 10:09 PM

    lol @ most of work at 9 am.

    yea and at your work your job isnt to cover a man running down the field in pads ready to lay someone out or break up a pass in the heat.

    youre probably a secretary. drink a mimosa and shut up.

  20. justwinbaby29 says: Sep 17, 2011 10:11 PM

    It’s all about TV … Chargers-Patriots is an attractive game for CBS at 4:15pm – Raiders-Bills isn’t as attractive.

    I’m a Raider fan and the league usually doesn’t do us many favors but when you are a top team to projected top team you are treated better.

    When the Raiders were a top team from 2000-2002 I remember then playing 4:15 or 8:30 games in New York, Philadelphia and Pittsburgh.

    Anyway, go Raiders lets get to 2-0!

  21. sdboltaction says: Sep 17, 2011 10:12 PM

    Go Chargers!

  22. indymag says: Sep 17, 2011 10:18 PM

    In the interest of useful reporting, what was their record at other start times? It’s not like the Raiders, Seahawks, and Niners have been all that great.

  23. FinFan68 says: Sep 17, 2011 10:18 PM

    koq11357 says:
    Sep 17, 2011 9:40 PM
    How does Arizona, a completely landlocked state, qualify as a West Coast team?
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Referring to the time zone not access to the Pacific ocean. AZ does not observe DST so they are on “California time” until the time changes back and they will be the same as Denver

  24. gi141 says: Sep 17, 2011 10:24 PM

    Right, and no eastern time zone teams should be forced to start a game at 8:20pm because that keeps them up way too late…that 4th quarter is just far too mentally and physically challenging, creates an advantage for pacific time zone teams.

    OR, you could take off the skirt, put on your man pants, and get payed to play a game at 10:00am.

    Stupidest argument I’ve heard in a while. Taking away OTA’s has gone straight to their heads.

  25. croghan1919 says: Sep 17, 2011 10:26 PM

    Make ALL west coast home games start at 1 pm local (which is 4pm EST).
    Flex ALL the rest.

  26. tdl8 says: Sep 17, 2011 10:28 PM

    dbellina says:
    Sep 17, 2011 9:39 PM
    I wish I could complain about having to show up to work at 10am.
    ————————————–
    You really think the team shows up at the stadium right at 10am PST for the game? On game day they are probably at the stadium 3 hours before the game so they are getting on the bus at the hotel by 6:30am PST.

  27. tdl8 says: Sep 17, 2011 10:31 PM

    koq11357 says:
    Sep 17, 2011 9:40 PM
    How does Arizona, a completely landlocked state, qualify as a West Coast team?
    ————————————————–

    Because they are in the Pacific Time Zone! Not that hard to figure out! Use some common sense!

  28. 3ringsraiders says: Sep 17, 2011 10:39 PM

    Amazing the ignorance around here.So you ppl saying it doesn’t affect the way teams play can you honestly tell me that if you flew to the otherside of the country with a time zone 4 hours behind your own biological clock settings that you are going not to be affected by it and it’s not going to affect your work? if you say yes your straight up lying.

  29. croghan1919 says: Sep 17, 2011 10:44 PM

    tdl8 says:Sep 17, 2011 10:31 PM

    koq11357 says:
    Sep 17, 2011 9:40 PM
    How does Arizona, a completely landlocked state, qualify as a West Coast team?
    ————————————————–

    Because they are in the Pacific Time Zone! Not that hard to figure out! Use some common sense!

    ________________________

    Well, sorta!!!
    I beleieve AZ doesn’t observe DST.
    So they don’t… you know… spring forward, fall back.
    And DST ends halfway through the NFL season.

  30. geniusfan says: Sep 17, 2011 10:45 PM

    Maybe just maybe these teams just aren’t any good.

    After all the Raiders, 49ers, Cardinals, and Seahawks have been pretty terrible over the past five years sans a few good seasons here and there.

    I wonder how well the Bill Walsh 49ers dynasty played on the east coast. Oh and I wonder how well some of those old great Raiders teams played.

    I’m willing to bet that wasn’t much of a problem seeing as those teams were actually GOOD.

    Pretty lame excuse for not playing well.

  31. bloggingpoodlewalker says: Sep 17, 2011 10:45 PM

    Interesing news,..however it wont help, the Chargers will never win a superbowl,..ya heard me?…..NEVER!!!!!

  32. sonoco says: Sep 17, 2011 10:53 PM

    After the Dallas game the Niners have back-to-back 10 am starts at Cincy then at Philly so they decided to stay in Ohio after the Cincy game to practice in Youngstown (Hometown of the DeBartolo family).

  33. croghan1919 says: Sep 17, 2011 10:56 PM

    I gotta think that Vegas (and of course, TV) MIGHT have something to do with why this is an issue.

  34. lance19 says: Sep 17, 2011 10:57 PM

    For all those trying to explain it away
    by arguing that West Coast teams just
    haven’t been very good in recent years,
    the Chargers have the 3rd or 4th best
    regular season record in the in NFL over
    the last 5 years, but a LOSING record
    in those 10am starts.

  35. boswivel says: Sep 17, 2011 11:02 PM

    And sometimes as an East-coaster, I stay up til 1am watching MNF. Suck it up, Nancy.

  36. lance19 says: Sep 17, 2011 11:04 PM

    @gi141

    If the stats showed a consistent advantage
    for West Coast teams in late games (they don’t, btw), it WOULD be a legitimate topic for discussion…feel free to keep YOUR skirt on…
    your OTA reference is the “stupidest argument I’ve heard in a while.”

  37. freedomispopular says: Sep 17, 2011 11:14 PM

    I’m curious to see if this has anything at all to do with their constant sluggish starts. If they get off to a fast start and stay there, the whole having games later may have an actual effect on their play.

    On another note, most of you failed to notice that their games typically KICK OFF at 10 AM. I don’t actually have any idea, but I bet most of those guys are up by 7 at the latest, probably much earlier.

  38. thefiesty1 says: Sep 17, 2011 11:16 PM

    Poor babies need their beauty sleep. Although it is a bit of a problem. Their fans are still in church.

  39. jackblackshairyback says: Sep 17, 2011 11:18 PM

    Idiots, the lot of you. They don’t show up at 10 am for a 10:05 kickoff, they get to the stadium a good several hours earlier. Thnk about that when you gorge yourselves on a slab of ribs and jumbo nachos with Cheez Whiz on them.

  40. tbraiders says: Sep 17, 2011 11:25 PM

    sickpuppyz says:
    Sep 17, 2011 9:59 PM
    The reason the west coast teams lost so many games at 10 am is because they generally suck (less the Chargers) and not because of the scheduling. If anyone wishes to contest this then feel free to look at their records during the rest of the playing times. Guaranteed it won’t be positive.

    —————————————

    Oakland Raiders last season:
    0-3 EST Games
    3-2 vs PST Teams
    5-3 vs all others

  41. kremis says: Sep 17, 2011 11:27 PM

    Bb

  42. koq11357 says: Sep 17, 2011 11:35 PM

    Pacific Time Zone does not equal “West Coast” — are the Detroit Lions an East Coast team?

  43. orthodoxdj says: Sep 18, 2011 12:07 AM

    Goodell and his pets.

  44. raideralex99 says: Sep 18, 2011 12:23 AM

    Wow … after reading some of these comments … I can see who the losers are.
    Seriously if a west coast team loses 70% of the early games … anyone who bets on a west coast team in these games is a loser.
    The NFL should really change this … after all they did change the bye week teams now play each other after stats showed the bye week teams lost the majority of their games when the played a team not on a bye.
    I guess Vegas does control the NFL.

  45. pastabelly says: Sep 18, 2011 12:44 AM

    The Patriots only play four 1 pm games all season and two of them are against the Bills. If you suck or are good and play teams that suck, you’re going to be playing a lot of 1 pm games.

  46. mrgroovesd says: Sep 18, 2011 1:10 AM

    I guess a lot of people that have to work at 9am doesn’t get that if they had to play a game at 10am, that would translate into you going into work at 6am. To top it off their job is not sitting at a desk.

  47. maninmo says: Sep 18, 2011 2:50 AM

    Oh, I thought the article was about getting to play the Broncos twice.

    They also play the Chiefs twice!

  48. lrt11 says: Sep 18, 2011 3:08 AM

    WOW, now I am worried when PFT starts defending the Raiders instead of being critical as usual. Go Raiders

  49. jikkle49 says: Sep 18, 2011 3:14 AM

    Normally I would agree that good teams win despite what time they get up and while it’s a disadvantage it’s something they should overcome.

    BUT my problem with the situation is that a couple of years ago they modified the scheduling to favor the East Coast teams by only requiring them to play no more than one West Coast game a season.

    So basically it’s tough for the East Coast teams to travel to the West Coast but it’s not tough for the West Coast teams to travel to the East Coast?

    Obviously that same rule wouldn’t work for West Coast teams since their are more East Coast teams but I think the NFL could try a little harder in their scheduling to ease the burden of a West Coast team traveling to the East Coast.

  50. discosucs2005 says: Sep 18, 2011 3:25 AM

    @indymag

    “In the interest of useful reporting, what was their record at other start times?”

    The west coast team’s records against east coast teams, traveling east, should be compared to the west coast team’s away record staying west. I’ve heard that the time zone caused loses a lot, and, as a Niner fan, would love a demand for fairness. But I would like to know what the Niners (and all the other WCTs) record was away from home, and if it’s worse when it’s away from home and in the east coast time zone.

  51. anhdazman says: Sep 18, 2011 3:47 AM

    Doesn’t really matter this week, the Patriots are going to bounce the Chargers back to San Diego any ways.

  52. pftequalsgreatjournalism says: Sep 18, 2011 3:56 AM

    Most of Arizona does not observe daylight saving time, and during the spring, summer, and autumn months it is on the same time as Pacific Daylight Time, though it is still called Mountain Standard Time in Arizona. The Navajo Nation, most of which lies within Arizona, does observe daylight saving time, although the Hopi Nation, as well as some Arizona state offices lying within the Navajo Nation, do not.

    The largest city in the Mountain Time Zone is Phoenix, Arizona, and its metropolitan area is the largest in the zone.

  53. jagmania65 says: Sep 18, 2011 6:02 AM

    There’s one less excuse why the Chargers will choke…

  54. savannahrose44 says: Sep 18, 2011 6:28 AM

    No favoritism here…no not at all. How is it the Chargers only have to play one 10am body time game while the rest of the west coast teams are being scheduled for 5-7 games starting at 10am body time? I have traveled west to east before and I know first hand it takes time to adjust to the difference. It’s called jet lag and it takes a toll on the body and the mind. West coast teams should have the afternoon start times.

  55. arbiterflick says: Sep 18, 2011 6:38 AM

    For the uninitiated who have to ‘work at 9am’.:

    What you probably aren’t aware of is that your body doesn’t hit it’s peak until several hours after waking, meaning a 10.00am start means a 4am wake up.

    Add a 4am up wake to a cross country flight and see if you feel ready to go full pace at an elite level.

  56. EJ says: Sep 18, 2011 7:19 AM

    richgannon says:
    Sep 17, 2011 9:56 PM
    RUN DMC is a 24 hour work horse the bills dont know what theyre getting into wether it be 10 am or 10 pm its gonna be lights out

    Yeah, lights out when Shawne Merriman knocks the Rapping Raider on his a–!!

    Go Bills!!!!

  57. joetoronto says: Sep 18, 2011 7:28 AM

    The short week AND the early start should never happen.

    Somebody please explain to me how the Chiefs got the Bills at home, after finishing atop the division last year, and the Raiders have to go to Buffalo.

    Thanks.

  58. edmazeing1 says: Sep 18, 2011 7:30 AM

    Take care of bussiness today Dmac, be smart with the Campbell & DLine stay tuff….Go Raiders!!!

  59. edmazeing1 says: Sep 18, 2011 7:32 AM

    Added on to my last comment & to keep up with the topic F the Time zone & play football!!!

  60. drednot says: Sep 18, 2011 7:35 AM

    Right, cause we wouldn’t want these prima-donna’s not to be able to party (without their wives) til 3AM!!!!

  61. mjrusher says: Sep 18, 2011 8:03 AM

    “While the late start on Sunday gives Pats fans extra time to get “lubed up,””

    -yep that sounds about right for the pats fans.

  62. trollhammer20 says: Sep 18, 2011 9:49 AM

    As jikkle49 noted, a few years ago, the league changed the travel rules for East Coast teams, because of a perceived “hardship” associated with air travel.

    The year before they made that rule, the Jets, through accident of scheduling, had to play every one of the four far-West Coast teams – San Fran, Oakland, San Diego, and Seattle – on the road. Their record in those games was 0-4. They were 9-3 in the rest of their schedule, but as a result of their poor West Coast performance, they finished 9-7, and the Jets (and Brett Favre) failed to make the playoffs.

    The Jets complained and the rules were changed within a few weeks. A “far west coast” team was paired with a western team that wasn’t located as far away. For example, The Rams are paired with the Seahawks. If your conference is scheduled to play the NFC West, you won’t play in Seattle and San Fran on the road in the same year.because in the eyes of the league, that creates too much travel. Instead, you’ll play at St. Louis and Seattle in one year when you face the West, and at San Francisco and Phoenix the next time your divisions play.

    That rule will actually be in effect today. Today is the third regular-season meeting between the Steelers and Seahawks since the realignment. The rules established at the time of realignment dictated that non-conference teams would play every four years, and alternate sites. The first time the AFC North played the NFC West, in 2003, the ‘Hawks and Steelers played in Seattle. Four years later, in 2007, they played in Pittsburgh. It’s now 2011, and they should be playing in Seattle, but thanks to the new, the game will be in Pittsburgh.

    Here’s the irony: When West Coast teams ask for a later start on games played in the Eastern or Central time zone, they’re talking about getting back three full hours of body clock time, for every single trip they make.

    Given the difference in flight distance from Pittsburgh to Seattle (2138 miles) and Pittsburgh to Phoenix (1839) is a total of 309 miles, in an airplane cruising at 550 mph, they’ll shave about 33 minutes off of Pittsburgh’s travel time, in each direction.

    Phoenix is mentioned, by the way, because the Cardinals should have been playing in Pittsburgh this year, since they played in Phoenix in 2007, but the new East Coast Team Travel Rule has the game being played in Arizona.

    So, if an East Coast team has a “problem” with travel, the league bends over backwards and implements a rule change, even if the “time savings” might amount to as little as a half-hour each way.

    Meanwhile, West Coast teams already face more travel time than all other teams, due to the simple facts of geography (Seattle travels more air-miles than everyone, every year) If they ask for a rule change so they aren’t having to wake up at 3-4 AM “body clock time” to be ready for a game, they become a bunch of sissies and whiners.

    I bet, though, that if someone could produce data suggesting that ratings were 0.5% higher for West Coast teams with 4 pm Eastern starts, the new rule, which we can call the”West Coast Sissy Travel Rule” just to be fair, would be made so fast heads would snap.

    By the way, the 2005 Seattle Seahawks finished with a regular season record of 13-3. All three of those losses were in games that started at 10 AM Pacific time.

  63. savannahrose44 says: Sep 19, 2011 2:06 AM

    @ trollhammer20

    Finally someone who gets it! Nice post.

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