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	<title>Comments on: Madieu Williams not fined for hit that drew flag</title>
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		<title>By: 4evrnyt</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[4evrnyt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Sep 2011 17:46:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I cant say this enough times.  Since teams have a limited number of replays per game they should be allowed to review penalties.  This was a huge penalty in the game that helped their drive continue.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cant say this enough times.  Since teams have a limited number of replays per game they should be allowed to review penalties.  This was a huge penalty in the game that helped their drive continue.</p>
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		<title>By: raiderlyfe510</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[raiderlyfe510]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Sep 2011 16:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s what happens when a commissioner makes up dumb rules and then tells the ref to make discretionary calls erring on the side of caution. It&#039;s gonna cost teams games. The commissioner is damaging the game.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s what happens when a commissioner makes up dumb rules and then tells the ref to make discretionary calls erring on the side of caution. It&#8217;s gonna cost teams games. The commissioner is damaging the game.</p>
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		<title>By: vahawker</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[vahawker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Sep 2011 16:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hard to believe he didn&#039;t get fined for Perfectly legal hit. Maybe the NFL can do something right.

Refs made up for that call with a phantom roughing the kicker call against Hawks later. So it all evened out]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hard to believe he didn&#8217;t get fined for Perfectly legal hit. Maybe the NFL can do something right.</p>
<p>Refs made up for that call with a phantom roughing the kicker call against Hawks later. So it all evened out</p>
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		<title>By: randallcobb</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[randallcobb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Sep 2011 16:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Williams hit someone? Highly unlikely.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Williams hit someone? Highly unlikely.</p>
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		<title>By: tamvu</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tamvu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Sep 2011 15:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[they should make it so the NFL is fined for every bad call they make (straight to the pockets of the &#039;offending&#039; player.)  Fair is fair.  

you don&#039;t go screwin up a game, accidentally or not, and expect to get away with it.  what if the penalty led to some points that changed the outcome of the game?  refs are so quick to throw flags for the most ridiculous crap nowadays, maybe if they&#039;re penalized themselves they&#039;ll reel it in a little.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>they should make it so the NFL is fined for every bad call they make (straight to the pockets of the &#8216;offending&#8217; player.)  Fair is fair.  </p>
<p>you don&#8217;t go screwin up a game, accidentally or not, and expect to get away with it.  what if the penalty led to some points that changed the outcome of the game?  refs are so quick to throw flags for the most ridiculous crap nowadays, maybe if they&#8217;re penalized themselves they&#8217;ll reel it in a little.</p>
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		<title>By: souldogdave</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[souldogdave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Sep 2011 15:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Suspend the ref, at the very least. Bad calls should cost them, maybe their part-time job.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suspend the ref, at the very least. Bad calls should cost them, maybe their part-time job.</p>
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		<title>By: itsnotforme</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[itsnotforme]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Sep 2011 15:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He was fined because that was the first tackle he has made in the last 3 years.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He was fined because that was the first tackle he has made in the last 3 years.</p>
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		<title>By: gcsuk</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gcsuk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Sep 2011 14:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[thehighhat says: 
Sep 17, 2011 9:44 AM 
I don’t think the refs should be fined, they are only following a mandate from the brass. I think for every one of these bad hit calls (ie: playing football), Goodell should be forced to take a launched hit from a player!

OK, Goodell’s old so lets say a hit from a former player that’s his age. I wonder what Jack Tatums up to these days?
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Goodell could probably handle that. Jack Tatum has been dead for over a year (July 27, 2010). I&#039;m betting he couldn&#039;t get much of a running start.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thehighhat says:<br />
Sep 17, 2011 9:44 AM<br />
I don’t think the refs should be fined, they are only following a mandate from the brass. I think for every one of these bad hit calls (ie: playing football), Goodell should be forced to take a launched hit from a player!</p>
<p>OK, Goodell’s old so lets say a hit from a former player that’s his age. I wonder what Jack Tatums up to these days?<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
Goodell could probably handle that. Jack Tatum has been dead for over a year (July 27, 2010). I&#8217;m betting he couldn&#8217;t get much of a running start.</p>
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		<title>By: hoosierdude</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hoosierdude]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Sep 2011 13:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is getting dumber and dumber. I&#039;m not sure whether it&#039;s the officiating, the rules themselves, or the league&#039;s constant fumbling around with replays, interpretations, fines, etc. Whatever it is, it&#039;s affecting the integrity of the game and the NFL must take steps to clean it up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is getting dumber and dumber. I&#8217;m not sure whether it&#8217;s the officiating, the rules themselves, or the league&#8217;s constant fumbling around with replays, interpretations, fines, etc. Whatever it is, it&#8217;s affecting the integrity of the game and the NFL must take steps to clean it up.</p>
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		<title>By: thehighhat</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thehighhat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Sep 2011 13:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think the refs should be fined, they are only following a mandate from the brass. I think for every one of these bad hit calls (ie: playing football), Goodell should be forced to take a launched hit from a player!

OK, Goodell&#039;s old so lets say a hit from a former player that&#039;s his age. I wonder what Jack Tatums up to these days?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think the refs should be fined, they are only following a mandate from the brass. I think for every one of these bad hit calls (ie: playing football), Goodell should be forced to take a launched hit from a player!</p>
<p>OK, Goodell&#8217;s old so lets say a hit from a former player that&#8217;s his age. I wonder what Jack Tatums up to these days?</p>
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		<title>By: 3octaveFart</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[3octaveFart]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Sep 2011 13:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is this what the NFL is becoming?
You&#039;re writing an article about a guy who drew a penalty flag in a game, and &lt;i&gt;wasn&#039;t&lt;/i&gt; fined afterwards?

I wonder what Goodell&#039;s fine for offsides will be this year...? :roll:]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this what the NFL is becoming?<br />
You&#8217;re writing an article about a guy who drew a penalty flag in a game, and <i>wasn&#8217;t</i> fined afterwards?</p>
<p>I wonder what Goodell&#8217;s fine for offsides will be this year&#8230;? <img src='http://s2.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: mattsffrd</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mattsffrd]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Sep 2011 13:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;nelspetersen says: Sep 17, 2011 7:15 AM

Is it just me, or should the ref be fined?&quot;


or fired.  terrible call.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;nelspetersen says: Sep 17, 2011 7:15 AM</p>
<p>Is it just me, or should the ref be fined?&#8221;</p>
<p>or fired.  terrible call.</p>
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		<title>By: vernhh</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[vernhh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Sep 2011 13:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The NFL needs to take a serious look at this with their officials. This play isn&#039;t an isolated case.
The league made a huge change of direction with officiating a couple years ago when they were directed to &quot;err on the side of caution,&quot; on plays that could be unsafe. 
The result is penalties thrown on players doing EXACTLY what the league has said they need to do. It is becoming impossible for the players to play the game and the outcome of far too many games is being determined by these &quot;best guess&quot; kind of calls.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The NFL needs to take a serious look at this with their officials. This play isn&#8217;t an isolated case.<br />
The league made a huge change of direction with officiating a couple years ago when they were directed to &#8220;err on the side of caution,&#8221; on plays that could be unsafe.<br />
The result is penalties thrown on players doing EXACTLY what the league has said they need to do. It is becoming impossible for the players to play the game and the outcome of far too many games is being determined by these &#8220;best guess&#8221; kind of calls.</p>
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		<title>By: steelerfan999</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[steelerfan999]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Sep 2011 12:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[they fined james harrison for williams hit]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>they fined james harrison for williams hit</p>
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		<title>By: trollhammer20</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[trollhammer20]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Sep 2011 12:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hendeeze says:Sep 17, 2011 7:42 AM 

That penalty setup a a 39yd FG. That otherwise wouldnt have been in range for. You can thank Ginn, Mr Ref for bailing you out
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Actually, the penalty took place on 2nd and 7 from the San Francisco 32.  A kick from that spot would have been 49-50 yards, well within Hauschka&#039;s range (given he kicked a 51 yarder to win a preseason game).

What is it with football and revisionist history?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hendeeze says:Sep 17, 2011 7:42 AM </p>
<p>That penalty setup a a 39yd FG. That otherwise wouldnt have been in range for. You can thank Ginn, Mr Ref for bailing you out<br />
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<p>Actually, the penalty took place on 2nd and 7 from the San Francisco 32.  A kick from that spot would have been 49-50 yards, well within Hauschka&#8217;s range (given he kicked a 51 yarder to win a preseason game).</p>
<p>What is it with football and revisionist history?</p>
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		<title>By: wawa33</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wawa33]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Sep 2011 12:35:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Willams was fined because his first name is MAH-DOO.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Willams was fined because his first name is MAH-DOO.</p>
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		<title>By: moth25</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[moth25]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Sep 2011 12:15:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This should be easily fixed - review all of these calls.  The person that reviews every scoring play (and then tells the ref he should review them) could review these plays quickly...without the need to tell the ref to review them.  I&#039;m not one for slowing down the game with more reviews, but these penalties can have a huge impact on the game.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This should be easily fixed &#8211; review all of these calls.  The person that reviews every scoring play (and then tells the ref he should review them) could review these plays quickly&#8230;without the need to tell the ref to review them.  I&#8217;m not one for slowing down the game with more reviews, but these penalties can have a huge impact on the game.</p>
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		<title>By: tinkletinkleonyourstar</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tinkletinkleonyourstar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Sep 2011 11:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve not kept accurate count, but isn&#039;t this at least the fourth time so far this season/pre-season that a hitee has said that the hitter should not be fined or was willing to pay the fine of the hitter?
Imagine how many other bad calls that there were that didn&#039;t get attention drawn to them for one reason or another. The refereeing is absolutely horrible.

The NFL is going so soft it&#039;s pathetic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve not kept accurate count, but isn&#8217;t this at least the fourth time so far this season/pre-season that a hitee has said that the hitter should not be fined or was willing to pay the fine of the hitter?<br />
Imagine how many other bad calls that there were that didn&#8217;t get attention drawn to them for one reason or another. The refereeing is absolutely horrible.</p>
<p>The NFL is going so soft it&#8217;s pathetic.</p>
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		<title>By: hendeeze</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hendeeze]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Sep 2011 11:42:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That penalty setup a a 39yd FG.  That otherwise wouldnt have been in range for.  You can thank Ginn, Mr Ref for bailing you out]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That penalty setup a a 39yd FG.  That otherwise wouldnt have been in range for.  You can thank Ginn, Mr Ref for bailing you out</p>
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		<title>By: conseannery</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[conseannery]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Sep 2011 11:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In Brooks&#039; defense, it&#039;s debatable that T-Jack is a quarterback.

I keed, I keed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Brooks&#8217; defense, it&#8217;s debatable that T-Jack is a quarterback.</p>
<p>I keed, I keed.</p>
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		<title>By: jigwig13</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Sep 2011 11:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Almost a week later and I&#039;m still sick to my stomach because of the flag that was thrown on that play]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Almost a week later and I&#8217;m still sick to my stomach because of the flag that was thrown on that play</p>
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		<title>By: nelspetersen</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nelspetersen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Sep 2011 11:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is it just me, or should the ref be fined?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it just me, or should the ref be fined?</p>
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