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Vick argued with trainers, doctors to return to game

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Though it’s unknown whether Mike Vick will take the field for the Eagles in Week Three, a source with knowledge of the situation tells us that Vick tried his damnedest to return to Sunday night’s game against the Falcons after leaving with a concussion.  Per the source, Vick fought (not physically, but verbally) with trainers and doctors to go back to the field.

Of course, once a player has received the concussion diagnosis, he can’t return for the balance of the game in which the injury occurred, and he thereafter must remain out until cleared to practice and play by the appropriate neurological experts.  This procedure helps protect competitive players like Vick from disregarding their health interests and risking the potentially serious effects of another concussion immediately after the first one.

The automatic removal requirement could explain teams’ reluctance to use the “c” word immediately after the injury has occurred.  Cognizant that a concussion knocks a guy out for the rest of the contest, teams likely wait to make it official until the diagnosis has been confirmed in the locker room.

In Vick’s case, it initially was reported that he had a neck on injury.  Only after the game did coach Andy Reid disclose that Vick in reality had a concussion.

The source also says that Vick was lucid after the game, which meshes with trainer Rick Burkholder’s assessment that Vick was fine last night.  The question becomes whether he’s fine today, and eventually whether he can pass the tests that must be passed before he can play again.

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74 Responses to “Vick argued with trainers, doctors to return to game”
  1. snowpea84 says: Sep 19, 2011 2:30 PM

    The sooner he gets back out there the sooner he can get injured again. He’s two games into the season and already it’s taken a toll.

  2. AlanSaysYo says: Sep 19, 2011 2:30 PM

    Best thing for everyone involved would have been to let him go back into the game and suffer a bit of that sweet neurological damage that karma owes him.

  3. sj39 says: Sep 19, 2011 2:30 PM

    So he barked but did not bite.

  4. lionfan419 says: Sep 19, 2011 2:31 PM

    frist

  5. Soulman45 says: Sep 19, 2011 2:32 PM

    Sit out it a long season you got time to try to win the Super Bowl.

  6. thingamajig says: Sep 19, 2011 2:34 PM

    ” The question becomes whether he’s fine today, and eventually whether he can pass the tests that must be passed before he can play again.”

    If he fails will it be because of his IQ or the results of a concussion?

  7. phillyfollower says: Sep 19, 2011 2:35 PM

    Still no story about how NBC apologized to Andy Reid for lack of replay on the Vick non-interception?

  8. scudbot says: Sep 19, 2011 2:36 PM

    How courageously super brave, wanting to go back on the field after taunting Atlanta’s fans. What a jerk.

  9. dgreenfi says: Sep 19, 2011 2:37 PM

    He should have spent his time arguing for them to take Casey Matthews OUT of the game.

  10. chilomane says: Sep 19, 2011 2:39 PM

    A concussion will get you out for the game.

  11. scudbot says: Sep 19, 2011 2:41 PM

    “Okay, Mike, you can go back out there but you’re benched for Kafka. You turned the ball over three times.”

  12. xtb3 says: Sep 19, 2011 2:41 PM

    in the tank

  13. strctlylo says: Sep 19, 2011 2:42 PM

    are the trainers and dr’s that are conducting these concussion tests team dr’s or nfl dr’s? if they are team, they shouldn’t be. by having nfl dr’s, that would prohibit a team from diagnosing the injury something other than a concussion so that they have the possibility of having their player back into the game later on.

  14. kevbarnett says: Sep 19, 2011 2:42 PM

    I agree with the league that if a player is diagnosed with a concussion he should not be allowed to return to the game. I would like to see one change be made to the rule however. If the player sustained the concussion from a illegal hit from a player who was penalized for the hit that player should should not be permitted to return to the game. Being penalized 15 yards and fined 25K isn’t enough to stop these players from delivering these hits. If Dunta Robinson knows that if he head hunts again it will cost him self the rest of the game and ultimately a chance to help his team win. That is much more important than the 15 yards or a monetary fine.

  15. bdert says: Sep 19, 2011 2:43 PM

    Is he outta his doggone mind??? he was already being mauled!!!

  16. berniemadoffsides says: Sep 19, 2011 2:43 PM

    Remember how Philly handled the Stewart Bradley fiasco from a couple of years ago?

    Yeah, I’m willing to bet Vick starts next week.

    “He’s fine. It’s just a concussion.”

  17. fthrvic says: Sep 19, 2011 2:44 PM

    Then he pointed to the scoreboard to prove his point.

  18. drobstad says: Sep 19, 2011 2:46 PM

    I NEVER root for injuries to any player. It is a bad practice and I believe it bring bad karma to your team. But I definitely think the Eagles should give Vick a week a rest next week against my Giants… Just saying… :)

  19. hanktheking says: Sep 19, 2011 2:49 PM

    Is there a games played clause in his new contract?

  20. hystoracle says: Sep 19, 2011 2:54 PM

    If he passes the “test”, then let him play. Just don’t want to hear him complaining about dementia or some other mental problem after he retires. When you are informed and decide to do it anyway the risk is all on you now.

  21. asublimeday says: Sep 19, 2011 2:54 PM

    I doubt he can get any dumber. Let him play! Can’t wait to see him hurt again.

  22. chescobirdfan says: Sep 19, 2011 2:55 PM

    Is he outta his doggone mind??? he was already being mauled!!!

    You are just so effin funny… Must be a Cowgirls fan…. duh..

  23. golonger says: Sep 19, 2011 2:57 PM

    …and at least Vick has less to lose by being concused!!!!!!

  24. nachohippo says: Sep 19, 2011 3:02 PM

    he went from “playing lights-out” to actually being lights out

  25. ceschatz says: Sep 19, 2011 3:02 PM

    oh please. He didn’t fight anybody, they are just trying to make him look like some kind of hero. He still has butter fingers.

  26. phileborn says: Sep 19, 2011 3:05 PM

    The amount of negative comments being posted is ridiculous. All the dog jokes aren’t even funny anymore. Let the guy move on already!

  27. 99jeromebrown says: Sep 19, 2011 3:13 PM

    heh, heh, Vick and dog jokes that’s funny

  28. ehsdrumline says: Sep 19, 2011 3:18 PM

    “The source also says….”

    This “source” must have been up Vick’s behind since he knows so much. I guess he was over there shining a light in Vick’s eyes when he presumed him “lucid”.

    I don’t buy this for a second. Vick got rocked and probably could have returned if not for these new rules, which is fine by me! I am all about these guys being protected from themselves. However, I know the Eagles are secretive but I still don’t think they would flat out lie about him being fine or not.

  29. pdxbolt says: Sep 19, 2011 3:19 PM

    lionfan419 says:
    Sep 19, 2011 2:31 PM
    frist

    —————————————–

    #1. Actually you were fourth.

    #2. In your rush to try and be first, you misspelled first.

    Fail.

  30. hendawg21 says: Sep 19, 2011 3:20 PM

    So how did the argument go??? Let me go back in let me be like my dogs throw back in there let me fight till I ain’t got no mo fight…then toss in a ditch…

  31. dallasux says: Sep 19, 2011 3:23 PM

    asublimeday says:
    Sep 19, 2011 2:54 PM
    I doubt he can get any dumber. Let him play! Can’t wait to see him hurt again.

    ————————————————–

    Class act right here. Do the world a favor and go play in traffic.

  32. chuckyd317 says: Sep 19, 2011 3:24 PM

    What’s he suppose to do?? Beg to stay on the bench?

  33. undevelopedroll says: Sep 19, 2011 3:29 PM

    Two games in, Vick out. Hmmm. Seems some folks were predicting this back before pre-season.

  34. karlpk says: Sep 19, 2011 3:32 PM

    Sad and pathetic losers who spend their time hating Vick instead of enjoying football can wallow in their own decrepitude!

    Probably the same morons who spend their time on the boards writing about how Cam Newton will never be a QB in the NFL. I wonder what he has in common with Vick?

  35. mrplow3 says: Sep 19, 2011 3:34 PM

    Can we please stop saying the word “karma” all the time?

    You aren’t on a spa website filled with 40 year old yoga instructors. It’s a sports website. Stop talking like girls, it’s annoying.

  36. southbeachtalent says: Sep 19, 2011 3:38 PM

    Wow the Eagles have as many haters and “hurt” fans as the Heat… Kinda pulling for them. My Dolphins have been less than impressive (lol) so I’m quietly rooting for Vick to win it all.

  37. abninf says: Sep 19, 2011 3:39 PM

    Week 2 and the Dream Team is already losing games. How can that be??

  38. eaglesblow says: Sep 19, 2011 3:40 PM

    The Eagles were willing, they characterized it as a neck injury so they would have the option of putting him back in the game. This is just more spin.

  39. b1unt3d says: Sep 19, 2011 3:44 PM

    Thumb this down all you want.. but I loved seeing Vick get destroyed. I only wish he was spitting up blood from an internal injury instead of because he bit his tongue. All you Eagles fans will get what you deserve with this scum bag.

  40. davidjcu says: Sep 19, 2011 3:48 PM

    Dog comments: Real old

    Karma Comments: What do you think prison is for?

    Terrible Person: See Ben Roesthlisburger

  41. drmonkeyarmy says: Sep 19, 2011 3:49 PM

    Where is the story about how NBC didn’t show replays of the “interception” until it was way too late. Probably won’t be on here because the site is sponsored by the network. If it had happened on ESPN or FOX, I’m sure there would have been a post on it. Just further shows what a farce this site is.

  42. phan4life says: Sep 19, 2011 3:54 PM

    Sitting him was the right thing to do. You can’t be overly aggressive with someone who has just had a concussion.

    Plus, Atlanta has some dirty players out there who would be happyto end someone’s career if given the chance.

  43. golonger says: Sep 19, 2011 3:54 PM

    kevbarnett – they can do that now…..its called an ejection!!!!!

  44. golonger says: Sep 19, 2011 3:55 PM

    Unfortunately for Vick, I don’t think he’ll pass the test when he is “normal”

  45. lostsok says: Sep 19, 2011 3:56 PM

    It’s funny seeing the Eagles fans act like its soooo mean people that people keep saying things about Vick and dog killing.

    Get used to it.

    It is NOT going to stop. That was the deal-with-the-devil you made by signing him. Some people are not going to forget. Ever. And as many are not going to forgive.

    Ever.

    The team should have asked itself that simple question: is it really worth it? They did not. They are paying now. Every game Vick loses or gets hurt is going to be followed by a cacophony of Vick-haters enjoying every moment of time…and you CHOSE to sign into that. The league did not make you.

    So…suck it up. It’s NOT going to stop.

  46. steelerfan999 says: Sep 19, 2011 3:59 PM

    MY DOGS WERE BOL ING(BARKING OUT LOUD)

  47. pixelito says: Sep 19, 2011 4:02 PM

    lema go back in da game Mr. Coach, I do real goot fu ya.

  48. bigbirdsfan says: Sep 19, 2011 4:12 PM

    Like him or not, if Vick finishes the game the Eagles win by 3 td’s or more. Gonna be a long season for NFL defenses and Vick haters.

  49. seabreezes51 says: Sep 19, 2011 4:19 PM

    wear that mouthpiece mike

  50. rcali says: Sep 19, 2011 4:20 PM

    Is it true that he tried to drown the trainers who wouldn’t let him go back out? Or was it that he grabbed them by the legs and slammed them against the concrete. I get so confused sometimes.

  51. thridandlong says: Sep 19, 2011 4:26 PM

    Doctor’s informed Vick he could return, but if he underachieved during the game, he would be body slammed, electrocuted, shot and then drowned.

    His response, ” I may be stupid, but I am not dumb ! “

  52. philyeagles5 says: Sep 19, 2011 4:34 PM

    scudbot says:
    Sep 19, 2011 2:36 PM
    How courageously super brave, wanting to go back on the field after taunting Atlanta’s fans. What a jerk.
    ========================
    just because the morons covering the game told you this doesnt mean he was actually doing it. they showed one angle of him pointing and the idiots just assumed.

  53. heavyjumbo says: Sep 19, 2011 4:41 PM

    AlanSaysYo says:

    Best thing for everyone involved would have been to let him go back into the game and suffer a bit of that sweet neurological damage that karma owes him.

    ——————-

    Shut up, sir.

  54. ugaboogaloo says: Sep 19, 2011 4:52 PM

    I’m a Falcon fan and let me tell ya, Dunta Robinson’s two hardest hits since his acquisition have come against the Iggles. He doesn’t hit very hard most of the time. Maybe he just hates the Iggles or something? At least Maclin was able to continue. Dunta will probably be suspended for a game, but based on the way he got lit up yesterday, my guess is that it won’t hurt the Falcons much.

  55. ugaboogaloo says: Sep 19, 2011 4:54 PM

    Oh, and Vick’s a punk. He may not be committing crimes off the field anymore, but he’s still a punk. I saw it in ’05 and ’06 when the Falcons were underachieving. God help him if he ever struggles as an Iggle. The Philly fans will crush him.

  56. golonger says: Sep 19, 2011 5:05 PM

    bigbirdsfan – yes, it will be long when he chokes in the playoffs as usual (if he even gets there)

  57. golonger says: Sep 19, 2011 5:06 PM

    davidjcu – prison is to keep dirtbags like Vick off the street….unfortunately, as in many cases, it didn’t work.

  58. golonger says: Sep 19, 2011 5:08 PM

    karlpk – sad and pathetic losers like you defend him!!!!!!

  59. xstaticonradio says: Sep 19, 2011 5:09 PM

    “IM GONNA DROWN YOU LIKE ONE OF MY DOGS IF YOU DONT ME BACK IN THERE!”

  60. golonger says: Sep 19, 2011 5:12 PM

    phileborn – no, its morons like you that think Vick’s ONLY problem is that he killed dogs….sorry…Vick was a dirtbag before he even killed his first dog…..he’s a druggie, he’s lazy, he’s a terrible role model……the dog issue is just icing on the cake for this clown…….if you want to think he is ok….go right ahead….as will people in here that know the truth about this loser!

  61. jaybertx says: Sep 19, 2011 5:22 PM

    Vick didn’t try to go back in. It was his imposter, Ron Mexico.

  62. americankris says: Sep 19, 2011 5:26 PM

    Karma will get Vick for killing dogs but world leaders who steal and kill people get off free. Sounds about right.

  63. grs27 says: Sep 19, 2011 6:07 PM

    Vick got hurt and was spitting up blood…he got knocked out of the game. Didn’t he used to kill his dogs for getting hurt like that?

  64. 7to10for6allday says: Sep 19, 2011 6:40 PM

    Speaking of funny things, the eagles don’t even need Vick to beat the giants next week. You’ll see.

  65. december77 says: Sep 19, 2011 6:42 PM

    lostsok says:Sep 19, 2011 3:56 PM

    It’s funny seeing the Eagles fans act like its soooo mean people that people keep saying things about Vick and dog killing.

    Get used to it.

    It is NOT going to stop. That was the deal-with-the-devil you made by signing him. Some people are not going to forget. Ever. And as many are not going to forgive.

    Ever.

    The team should have asked itself that simple question: is it really worth it? They did not. They are paying now. Every game Vick loses or gets hurt is going to be followed by a cacophony of Vick-haters enjoying every moment of time…and you CHOSE to sign into that. The league did not make you.

    So…suck it up. It’s NOT going to stop.
    ================================

    I say, bring it! Because that’s all you have. No sweat off my back. Hopefully it’ll make you feel that much better about yourself. You fear his game so much, you hope he gets knocked out.

    Maclin was running circles around Robinson all day. Robinson got tired of being embarassed, so he tried to take him out.

    Atlanta Falcons motto: If you can’t beat them, hurt them! Dirty birds…

  66. o0omorriso0o says: Sep 19, 2011 6:51 PM

    WOW I am really sad for this pathetic world. The comments I have read here are all very classless. God help us all because there obviously isnt very manygood people left. Might as well just get armagedon over with. We already proved most of us aint worthy…

  67. dd393 says: Sep 19, 2011 7:48 PM

    “The source also says that Vick was lucid after the game…”

    How could they tell? Did he go “Woof” instead of “Meow”?

  68. jdbaker1860 says: Sep 19, 2011 8:15 PM

    Tony romo played with cracked ribs and puncture lung. Vick sat for weeks because of that. Vick is soft like the rest of the team. Jackson was hurt macklin was hurt McCoy was hurt.

  69. jdbaker1860 says: Sep 19, 2011 8:16 PM

    100 million spent on this guy. That’s awesome. Fly eagles fly!!!!!

  70. petthefurrywall says: Sep 19, 2011 8:45 PM

    I totally understand the hatred of Vick by many dog and animal lovers. I also understand that fans root for laundry. Eagle fans should root for him on the field. But, please don’t feel you have to defend the actions of his past or his character. Just defend his play. It is easier to do and won’t leave a bad taste in your mouth.

  71. mrjumpman23 says: Sep 19, 2011 10:56 PM

    This site is funny.. Keep the Vick bashing comments, but delete the comments supporting him… I guess skin color plays a major factor in the media.

  72. jdbaker1860 says: Sep 20, 2011 8:30 AM

    Mrjumpman23
    Perfect example of Lowlife soft Philly with that stupid statement. Very hard to find anyone educated from that city. Rocky balboa portrays a typical filth-a-delfiphian.” Uhhhhh,…..yo Adrienne………………….uhhh, ya know uhhhhhhhh…………..ummmmm……..I mean…………uhhhhhhh.”

  73. golonger says: Sep 20, 2011 12:04 PM

    mrjumpman23 – go get a life and off welfare loser!

  74. phileborn says: Oct 17, 2011 11:50 PM

    golonger …..to bad i saw this so late. Moron? Do you know me? You must know Mike Vick personally to be able to judge his character. I got off the “lets call people names train” when i was about 9 yrs old….so help urself :)

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