Comments on: League could fine for faking injuries if it could be proven

By: granadafan

granadafan — Wed, 21 Sep 2011 00:42:30 +0000

Make the “injured” player sit out from entering the field of play for specified minimum time (say 10 minutes) if their “injury” causes the clock to be stopped at any point or is prevented from starting within a normal flow of the game.

Soccer punishes divers with a yellow card, but the implications of a card are so high refs are loathe to call out the fakers. If soccer followed the same rule that anyone being taken off by a stretcher must sit out for a period of time, that stuff would stop too.

By: jimmytwotimes

jimmytwotimes — Tue, 20 Sep 2011 20:48:31 +0000

If the dream team did it this site would say Andy Reid was a genius !

By: stavreafavre

stavreafavre — Tue, 20 Sep 2011 20:25:32 +0000

Just what the NFL needs, guys falling down like in soccer. No quicker way to kill the game.

By: shamburg

shamburg — Tue, 20 Sep 2011 20:11:14 +0000

The Giants should lose a draft pick for this.

By: holdthemayo123

holdthemayo123 — Tue, 20 Sep 2011 20:03:14 +0000

They should definitely get fined – precedent should be set that you have to at least give an effort to faking it.

By: dirtdawg55

dirtdawg55 — Tue, 20 Sep 2011 20:03:09 +0000

Exactly what “evidence” does league need? They make subjective calls all the time on other fines based on nothing more than video, so why so scared to make the call on this based on the video? And if you aren’t prepared to do that, then change the rules for injury timeouts. Force teams to sit out players longer. Or force them to give their players better acting lessons. But bur your head in the sand on a blatant abuse of the rules?

C’mon man!

By: geezohman

geezohman — Tue, 20 Sep 2011 19:52:08 +0000

I remember in Varsity soccer in college, our team needed a ‘time out ‘ but couldn’t for what ever reason… i distinctly remember though the players telling one of the players on the field, who may have been mildly hurt but wanted to come off… to ‘lay’ down ! lol

ahhhhh.. sports

By: nicosanchez02

nicosanchez02 — Tue, 20 Sep 2011 19:51:29 +0000

How about a yellow card, no wait, a red one, oh… never mind thats the other futbol!

By: gcsuk

gcsuk — Tue, 20 Sep 2011 19:27:57 +0000

uwsptke says: Sep 20, 2011 1:17 PM

This could spread like wildfire if unenforced.

How many times have we seen a team driving with under a minute and no timeouts, with a defense protecting against the out route. The QB dumps it off over the middle which is wide open, but the receiver is tackled before he can get out of bounds. If there isn’t enough time to get the FG unit out on the field before time expires, now the guy can just lay there and pretend to be hurt? Playclock stops, and when play resumes the FG unit is magically on the field.

This WILL happen if nothing is done to protect against it.
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You’re right. Play clock stops for an injury. And if it’s in the last 2 minutes of the half/game, and the injured players team has no time outs, there is a 10 second run off on the clock. That would, in your scenario, end the game.

Asked and answered. It’s magic.

By: Ralphie

Ralphie — Tue, 20 Sep 2011 18:44:59 +0000

arlingtonassasin says:

“… it has been happening for DECADES. Really you think this hasn’t happened before????
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Of course it has, if an average fan sat back and thought about it they could easily recall a few of these faking situations in the past. But this is PFT, the fellowship of the retarded; stories like this are like chum to a school of Piranha’s.

By: hairpie

hairpie — Tue, 20 Sep 2011 18:38:15 +0000

They are directly influencing the outcome of the game by doing this. its CHEATING. wait till ESPN blows the top off this scandal! they are unbiased and fair!

oh…. wait……

By: johngaltwho

johngaltwho — Tue, 20 Sep 2011 18:09:14 +0000

The ref should handle it just like my father would have done if I tried that during a football game. “You wanna lay down with a fake injury – I’ll give you a reason to lay down – thwack! – there – now you can lay down… lets go – play ball!”

By: ronworthdubbs

ronworthdubbs — Tue, 20 Sep 2011 18:08:03 +0000

You people are idiots. If an offense feels the need to run a hurry up offense when there is actually no hurry (not close to half/end of game) just so the D can’t substitute, that’s an unfair advantage for the Offense. For only the Offense to be able to dictate if it will substitute solely on the fact that it has the ball is preposterous. The Defense should be allowed to substitute when need be as much as the Offense. This is just smart. What next? Timeouts can only be used on Offense? Think, dummies.

By: apetits

apetits — Tue, 20 Sep 2011 18:01:55 +0000

Biggest bunch of b*tches in the game, hands down.

By: jpb12

jpb12 — Tue, 20 Sep 2011 17:58:12 +0000

Looks like someone shot them both. Maybe a taser.

By: harleyrider1973

harleyrider1973 — Tue, 20 Sep 2011 17:55:07 +0000

For those out there says “you cant prove they were faking so you cant punish them…this isn’t criminal court you dont get the presumption of Innocents. When its obvious this this was the league should take action…period.

By: bangerang91

bangerang91 — Tue, 20 Sep 2011 17:54:55 +0000

If they allow this to continue, Pro Football will go the way of European Football, with players flopping around on the turf when they get touches, to get a free kick.

By: Henry

Henry — Tue, 20 Sep 2011 17:53:47 +0000

Chargers did the same thing against the Patriots on Sunday afternoon.

By: gcsuk

gcsuk — Tue, 20 Sep 2011 17:30:30 +0000

angrycorgi says: Sep 20, 2011 11:50 AM

Put them both (and the coaching staff if you like) under the scrutiny of a lie-detector and see. This isn’t an issue that falls inline with the admissibility rules of a public court, so a lie detector result COULD be all that is needed to hand down a punishment to the players and possibly the organization.
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I love how people will complain “There are too many rules…the league is getting in the way…let the players play!”, and now you want lie-detector tests?!?!
How about they just let the refs administer Sodium Pentathol (truth serum) right there on the sideline and get an answer during a commercial break?

By: mikeyveli

mikeyveli — Tue, 20 Sep 2011 17:28:25 +0000

Don’t worry, all the game needs is about 10 fake injuries in a game when some team is playing against Tom brady’s no huddle and the league WILL intervene and stop all these unsportsmanlike conduct. This is American football. Not pansy a55 international diving football.

By: depotnator

depotnator — Tue, 20 Sep 2011 17:26:07 +0000

Is there a fine for faking football knowledge?

By: omegaichiban

omegaichiban — Tue, 20 Sep 2011 17:25:53 +0000

Why does Williams hop right back up?

By: uwsptke

uwsptke — Tue, 20 Sep 2011 17:17:21 +0000

This could spread like wildfire if unenforced.

This WILL happen if nothing is done to protect against it.

By: cowboyfaninut

cowboyfaninut — Tue, 20 Sep 2011 17:13:42 +0000

Shows how talented this giants defense is. A good defense does not have to resort to such bush league tactics.

By: jpb12

jpb12 — Tue, 20 Sep 2011 17:05:25 +0000

Implies they can diagnose from Goodell’s office in New York Jets facility.

Just make the guy sit out the rest of the offensive or defensive series.

By: gregjennings85

gregjennings85 — Tue, 20 Sep 2011 17:00:04 +0000

I am a rarity in the US; I love the NFL and soccer. I have to tell you, the NFL has to nip this in the bud NOW, diving is the worst part of soccer.

Those 2 were obviously faking, as they were standing fine, right before that. Hefty fines, and a minimum down absence will be the only thing to remedy this.

(Those 2 should have to leave the game, and cannot return at any point in that defensive series. I suggest that, as many players have incentive-laden contracts and will be very much adverse to leaving the action for an extended period of time. Also, the coaching staff’s, at a minimum, should be fined.)

By: auntiemm

auntiemm — Tue, 20 Sep 2011 16:54:08 +0000

GRRRRREAT!!! Can see where this is going. We’ll be sitting here through the playoffs; and, God forbid the Super Bowl, hearing stories how one team lost a game because the other staged moves usually reserved for the old ‘studio wrestling’ days. If the team doesn’t deal with it now the league should.

By: gassiusclay

gassiusclay — Tue, 20 Sep 2011 16:44:53 +0000

While agree that something should be done, what do you do about players who think they are hurt? More and more physicians and trainers tell players to stay down if they hear “pops” or feel pulls, etc…especially when it comes to head/neck region. I would like the NFL to do something about the flopping exhibited by this thread’s video’s…either stop players from playing the rest of the series, or make a mandatory number of missed snaps post injury…but how would one regulate it?

By: jamiebuf12

jamiebuf12 — Tue, 20 Sep 2011 16:38:03 +0000

the giants were faking injuries in the super bowl against the bills to slooow down jim kellys no huddle……that crap started with bill bellecheat…….

By: seanmmartin

seanmmartin — Tue, 20 Sep 2011 16:32:41 +0000

After the “injury,” take the player out of the game for the remainder of the series, and do not allow another substitution until the following play ends.

Example:

Rams complete a thirty-yard bomb inside the Giants’ redzone. Two defenders plop to the ground like sissies. Referees call time because they’re doing their job. The two morons are taken off the field to “be examined” for the remainder of the drive. Play resumes with just two substitutions. After said play finishes, substitutions can be made as regulated.

Seems fair, right?