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As Rosenthal pointed out on Tuesday, the NFL will punish players for faking injuries only if they later admit that the injury was fake.

Because the players who simultaneously hit the deck while the Rams had the Giants on their heels with a no-huddle offense weren’t sufficiently stupid to admit that it was a ploy to give the Giants a chance to catch their breath, there will be no discipline, according to Ralph Vacchiano of the New York Daily News.

Coach Tom Coughlin helped perpetuate the ruse on Tuesday.  “Well, from my standpoint on the sideline I thought he was cramped,” Coughlin said of safety Deon Grant.  “At that point in time, all I noticed was a player down.”

Safety Antrel Rolle danced on the line of giving up the goods.  “This is the NFL,” Rolle told WFAN on Tuesday, per Vacchiano.  “No one is dumb in this league.  Many teams do it all the time.  In my eyes as a veteran it was an extremely smart play on their behalf . . . if they were in fact faking.”

Feigning cramps is the easiest way to fake an injury.  Cramps can be debilitating.  And with a little touching and rubbing, they go away and the player is fine.

Last night, former NFL safety Matt Bowen told Todd Wright of Yahoo! Sports Radio that the faking of injuries, as everyone suspects, a common practice in football.  “I’m not going to name any names of coaches,” Bowen said, “but faking injuries is part of the game.  We didn’t do it every game, but there was a signal to do it . . . and if you were the designated guy, normally a lineman because they rotate anyway, you went down. . . .  Another key part of this was to never tell the training staff. The reason for that is the coaches wanted the training staff to run on the field and react like it was a potentially serious injury, so they were kept out of the loop on this.”

That’s why the NFL needs to address the situation not by waiting for a player to admit to faking an injury (the league would have better luck waiting for the Great Pumpkin to arrive) but by removing the incentive to fake an injury.

Whether the defensive team loses a timeout when an injury occurs while facing a no-huddle offense (as we suggested Tuesday) or whether the player is prevented from returning for more than the standard one play, the league has the power to make it as unattractive to fake an injury as it currently is during the final two minutes of each half, when a timeout is taken from the team regardless of whether the injury is real or phony.

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  1. parasonic says: Sep 21, 2011 9:21 AM

    this sums it up nicely.

  2. jw731 says: Sep 21, 2011 9:23 AM

    “I’ve seen the lights go out on Broadway”……..

  3. seanmmartin says: Sep 21, 2011 9:24 AM

    Fan vote to decide

  4. drewfus813 says: Sep 21, 2011 9:25 AM

    That is ridiculous. Goodell is a joke

  5. botchedextrapoint says: Sep 21, 2011 9:29 AM

    It looks bad but faking injury is a tactic used in all sports.

  6. nebster21 says: Sep 21, 2011 9:29 AM

    you want a way to stop faking injuries. First if someone is injured keep them out of the game for 15 game minutes. Which is equal to one quarter.

    Second if the person is shown not to be a normal player getting normal reps fine the team $1 million and the head coach $500,000. Make a precidence.

    Sure teams will try to get better at faking but will they risk taking that big of a hit in the wallet?

    Last, name it the NY football Giants rule.

  7. zimaman says: Sep 21, 2011 9:30 AM

    I mean the two guys got up off the field at the same time after the play and were walking around fine and then remakably fell on the ground at the same time

    that they were hurt is a batch of BS at best

    if there is no action taken on by the league on this then there will never be

    so what they are saying is that fake injury timeouts are allowed as long as you dont admit it was faked

    who would? duh!

  8. bigdogsolec says: Sep 21, 2011 9:30 AM

    OR punish them by making them sit out 4-5 plays. if the player is really hurt ,most likely thats what he’d miss anyways.

  9. steviethewiz says: Sep 21, 2011 9:32 AM

    Well there youe have it – Rolle just said what all those Pats fan say all the time about Spygate – “EVERYONE DOES IT SO ITS NOT CHEATING” Sounds dumb right? just like the Pats fans always crying when people call out their cheating coach and team.

  10. kevinfromphilly says: Sep 21, 2011 9:33 AM

    You can fake injuries, but you can’t fake stupid – pretty obvious when two guys go down, and one of them gets right up after realizing he wasn’t the designated faker. Just another example of how Coughlin doesn’t coach ‘em right. I wonder if he got red in the face yelling at the guy who wasn’t supposed to go down.

  11. egls7 says: Sep 21, 2011 9:36 AM

    Solution: Whoever has an injury(fake or not) should be ruled out for the rest of the quarter. Easy

  12. browninbos says: Sep 21, 2011 9:36 AM

    Very simple. Defensive players must remain out for the remainder of the offensive series if they go out with an injury. It has the nice added bonus of helping player safety so players with legitimate injuries don’t rush back in the game.

  13. knucklebucket says: Sep 21, 2011 9:37 AM

    What is this? Soccer?

  14. congratsyouareanidiot says: Sep 21, 2011 9:37 AM

    Giants vs Rams = Man U vs Chelsea. Just needed a pool.

  15. MCxShow says: Sep 21, 2011 9:37 AM

    @parasonic

    You win. That was perfect.

  16. hatrhurter says: Sep 21, 2011 9:37 AM

    i thought i was watching soccer.

  17. lutazanderman says: Sep 21, 2011 9:38 AM

    How about this? Make the player sit out the rest of the half. If a player goes down with an injury during the last two minutes of a half/game, that player is unavailable to return until the half/game ends.

  18. vernhh says: Sep 21, 2011 9:43 AM

    Of course there isn’t discipline for this offense. No rules were broken and nothing can be proven. I know, it couldn’t have been more obvious, but that doesn’t mean it is proven to be a violation.
    The only possible league reaction is a stern reprimand to the Giants coaches (like that is going to do a bit of good) and then to address it through the rules committee in the off season.
    Sucks, but the loop hole is there to be exploited right now and the only thing that would keep a team in check is integrity. LoL with that!

  19. hatrhurter says: Sep 21, 2011 9:44 AM

    egls7
    that’s not enough cause they’ll just put in a third stringer, have him fake an injury and sit till they need him to do it again.

  20. str82dvd says: Sep 21, 2011 9:46 AM

    Thanks for lowering the bar, Giants.

  21. bravin4evr says: Sep 21, 2011 9:46 AM

    if a player is injured while a team is running a no huddle offense or in the last two minutes of the 2nd and 4th qtrs, they shouldn’t be allowed back into the game…let’s see how many injuries there are then

  22. skidooman93 says: Sep 21, 2011 9:47 AM

    Just let’em continue doing it. It has been going on as long as sports have been played. I really do see the big deal. I like the idea of the loose a time out if the fake is with in the 2:00 warning. But other than that I think the system is fine. There are becoming to many different rules to football. At this rate it will be like Nascar, every player will have to go through “tech” before and after the game.

  23. kate773 says: Sep 21, 2011 9:49 AM

    For all you “Make them sit 15 minutes” people, what if its your starting QB? What if he gets his gets the wind knocked out or slaps his hand on a helmet and needs it taped? You want your QB sitting a whole quarter?

    Some fans of teams with crappy QB’s may be just fine with that, but the Pats, Chargers and Packers fans to name a few might not be so wild about that rule when it happens to them.

  24. badmude says: Sep 21, 2011 9:50 AM

    Here’s a cure for fake injuries. If a player is injured, he must stay out of the game for 15 plays or the rest of the quarter, which ever is longer. That way the league could say they are looking out for the safety of the injured player from entering a game too soon.

  25. grilledjesus says: Sep 21, 2011 9:50 AM

    “This is the NFL,” Rolle told WFAN on Tuesday, per Vacchiano. “No one is dumb in this league.”

    I beg to differ, seems like DBs from the NY area are in fact very dumb.

  26. kate773 says: Sep 21, 2011 9:50 AM

    For all you “Make them sit 15 minutes” people, what if its your starting QB? What if he gets the wind knocked out or slaps his hand on a helmet and needs it taped? You want your QB sitting a whole quarter?

    ______________________________

    Fixed it. Ugh.

  27. bkostela says: Sep 21, 2011 9:52 AM

    You can fake injuries, but you can’t fake stupid – pretty obvious when two guys go down, and one of them gets right up after realizing he wasn’t the designated faker. Just another example of how Coughlin doesn’t coach ‘em right. I wonder if he got red in the face yelling at the guy who wasn’t supposed to go down.

    ————————————————————

    …at least coughlin knows how to challenge a bad call

  28. tundey says: Sep 21, 2011 9:52 AM

    ha! So football is no different than soccer and basketball. Except that it’s actually coached in the NFL whereas in soccer and basketball players just do it on their own. I suppose if you’re gonna cheat, better get a coach to teach it the right way.

  29. matiberio says: Sep 21, 2011 9:54 AM

    Cheating? Who cares, I’m a Pats fan… 8^))

  30. angrycorgi says: Sep 21, 2011 9:55 AM

    Well if the league isn’t gonna do anything, then let’s ALL start doing this blatently whenever our D gets tired or needs to rotate in.

  31. tampajoey says: Sep 21, 2011 9:55 AM

    This is GREAT NEWS!

    More time for people to enjoy their “stadium experience” with a delay in the action. And it gives me time to check in on the other games on NFL Ticket then take a leak and grab another beer.

  32. tinkletinkleonyourstar says: Sep 21, 2011 9:57 AM

    i’ve said it before and i’ll say it again.
    STOP THE WHINING!
    they smartly used a loophole for their benefit… and it worked! live with it!

    you’re trippin’ if you think your team won’t do it next week if it will be to their benefit.
    receivers and kickers routinely fein more contact than there really was in order to draw a flag.

    there is nothing the nfl can do unless a player or coach admits there was faking involved, and that ain’t gonna happen people.

  33. kairn42 says: Sep 21, 2011 9:58 AM

    Hey Mike, how about a “Mysterious and sudden defensive injury during no-huddle offense” meter? Be interesting to see that even since this ‘practice’ has been blown so public….since there’s no punishment for it…how many more teams are going to be doing this?

    Hopefully, the media and replays will keep finding things like this after the obviousness of it all to keep pointing it out. Maybe THEN Roger will see how much of a joke it is and do something about it.

  34. tinkletinkleonyourstar says: Sep 21, 2011 9:59 AM

    feign- my bad. give it to me grammar police.

  35. tjacks7 says: Sep 21, 2011 10:02 AM

    “This is the NFL,” Rolle told WFAN on Tuesday, per Vacchiano.  “No one is dumb in this league.”

    Uhh is this guy serious?

  36. sj39 says: Sep 21, 2011 10:04 AM

    Coach Tom Coughlin helped perpetuate the ruse on Tuesday. “Well, from my standpoint on the sideline I thought he was cramped,” Coughlin said of safety Deon Grant. “At that point in time, all I noticed was a player down.”

    How van he even say that and not feel like a total jackass clown? Oh, nevermind.

  37. skeletaldrawing says: Sep 21, 2011 10:09 AM

    I hope the Giants drop their next 6 games in a row.

  38. terrellblowens says: Sep 21, 2011 10:11 AM

    What is this, soccer? The Giants pulled a bush league move and no punishment. Ridiculous

  39. glowingstone says: Sep 21, 2011 10:12 AM

    The only way this will ever go away is if every team starts doing it flagrantly and regularly. And frankly, if it’s this easy to get away with something so ridiculously obvious, everybody *should* be doing it. It’s not right, of course, but it might shame the league into doing something about it.

  40. jsrdc says: Sep 21, 2011 10:13 AM

    tinkletinkleonyourstar,

    What a MORONIC post. WE ALL KNOW the Vagiants were getting knocked on their heels on that drive, and TWO players simultaneously drop in the red zone. It was more than obvious, and it was pathetic. Was it illegal? No. Is it unprofessional? Absolutely yes. It was a bush league move, and it just goes to show you how your team chose to react to getting their arrses stomped by Bradford on that given drive. How about calling a time out? No, that would be professional play. When you have two players simultaneously drop, and then one get back up suddenly and mysteriously be OK, that should be an automatic delay of game, and a fine by the league.

    Look for teams to run the no huddle on the Giants the rest of the year, and let’s see if any more douche moves are a result. What a bunch of maroons…….

  41. artie555 says: Sep 21, 2011 10:15 AM

    Why is everyone blowing this situation up? Ive seen injuries faked many times, its just that the Giants happen to look and act really bad and obvious doing it. But if Grant had stayed down from the original play instead of getting up and than “falling”, this wouldnt even be a story, even though we all knew he was still faking.

    And how much did this really affect the rams scoring drive. If they were playing as good as they thought they were, a little stoppage of play shouldnt ruin the whole entire drive.

  42. tampajoey says: Sep 21, 2011 10:17 AM

    No more wasting a timeout to ice a kicker.

    Come on Belichick, I know you have the balls to make a mockery of the league’s unwillingness to address this crap.

  43. therealsmiley says: Sep 21, 2011 10:17 AM

    It’s part of the game……get over it already!! Hail!!

  44. cornernum23 says: Sep 21, 2011 10:18 AM

    I know I’m in the minority, but I got no issue with this. The offences in the NFL get SO many advantages over defences as it is. What’s wrong with breaking a rule that doesn’t exist? Then again I’ll admit; I’d be pissed if that happened to my team!

  45. anarchopurplism says: Sep 21, 2011 10:18 AM

    A number of posters above hit the nail on the head: force the player to sit out.

    The #1 problem is that the NFL’s rule system is 100% black & white. There is not much room for interpretation or subjectivity. Just about everything has to be completely conclusive & this issue is clearly a subjective observation type of thing.

    Caveat: the only subject ruling that the NFL pushes is on team penalties for misconduct & player fines……then it is completely subjective. But, only when the league has complete control.

    The NFL will not change its culture for the refs. So….whatever punishment (timeout, player off for a series or quarter) will be implemented strictly for every single injury.

  46. nygdefenserules says: Sep 21, 2011 10:25 AM

    Hey I’m not going along with the “everyone does it” so its ok. But this has been going on for years. The only reason the media and fans are making a big stink about it is because a rookie linebacker didn’t notice that a vet was already doing it. Lack of observation…..

    For those of you who want to add more rules to limit “faking”…are we going to apply said “faking” rules to QB’s who get sacked just after they release the ball, but stay down and act like they got hit in the head? Are we applying it to kickers who fall down when they are not even touched to draw the roughing the kicker penalty? What about Defensive players, who when running around the edge for a sack, purposely fall down while being blocked to try to draw a holding call? What about a QB giving a hard count to “fake” the defense into jumping off-sides?

    I know these all aren’t fake injuries, but it is taking advantage of a situation – which the Giants did.

    Is a fake Punt or FG cheating? No – you’re taking advantage of the other teams perception of what you are doing.

    One of my favorite plays of all time was Colts vs. Patriots in the playoffs a few years back. Peyton Manning acted like he couldn’t hear the call and started walking to the sideline – everyone else was still, so he was “in motion”. Direct snap to Edge James for the first down….was this cheating because the “lied” about what they were doing?

    It isn’t the most ethical tactic, but Faking injuries isn’t cause for missing a quarter…or even a series! Want to change the rule that injured playes need to sit out at least 3 plays…fine. But don’t get ridiculous!

  47. escapedconvict says: Sep 21, 2011 10:41 AM

    OK. How about this?

    If you are injured or slow the game play with an injury, and your team chooses to not use a timeout, then you are not allowed to renter the game for the remainder of that possession.

    Not too severe, but it’s something. And I doubt there will be third-stringers in there whose sole job is to fake it, because if it wasnt a dire situation, they wouldnt need to slow the pace of play anyway. It will involve a player of consequence.

    Put em in the box for that series.

    At least there will be some price to pay. Cause this sh*t is embarrasing for grown *ss men.

  48. izzop says: Sep 21, 2011 10:42 AM

    nygdefenserules is a retard. a fake punt or fg doesn’t force a stop of play by the official like faking injuries does. I say move the ball over to the right or left and play on!

  49. nfl fan says: Sep 21, 2011 10:42 AM

    Focus on something that you can actually improve, like “fan conduct” at the Stadiums.

    Start with Philadelphia, that should keep you busy for a while.

  50. adamrugbyireland says: Sep 21, 2011 10:45 AM

    This is how you deal with fake injuries. in 2009 their was a high profile rugby match, a player faked an injury and look how it was dealt with.

    Harlequins chairman Charles Jillings has resigned after accepting responsibility for the faked injury scandal which has disgraced the English Premiership club.

    Former Harlequins director of rugby Dean Richards was banned from coaching in Europe for three years and winger Tom Williams suspended for four months after a fabricated blood injury to Williams during a Heineken Cup quarter-final against Leinster in April.

    Williams left the field with fake blood dripping from his mouth so that specialist kicker Nick Evans could return to the field in the closing stages with Harlequins narrowly behind.

    “Harlequins acknowledge that we failed to control Dean Richards,” Jillings said in a statement Friday. “As a result of the board’s failure to control Dean, the club cheated.”

    Jillings said neither he, nor the board, had been aware of the club’s attempt to fake an injury nor the subsequent attempts to cover up the incidents in a European Rugby Cup (ERC) hearing.

    Harlequins were fined 300,000 euros (265,000 pounds) but have so far escaped further punishment despite ERC evidence detailing four other occasions in which injuries were fabricated.

  51. ktfulmer says: Sep 21, 2011 10:48 AM

    I bet McDaniels has good film of the incident. For documentation purposes of course….

  52. izzop says: Sep 21, 2011 10:51 AM

    oh and the only loophole is they lie about it. Faking injuries is against the rules.

    On a side note, it makes your team look weak. They should be embarrassed.

  53. glac1 says: Sep 21, 2011 10:55 AM

    The league would never fine a team from the “Big Apple” or other “major” markets.

  54. xsociallyxineptx says: Sep 21, 2011 10:59 AM

    I think that the team who has the “injury” whether its offense or defense should not be aloud to sub in multiple players, they should only be able to sub for the injured player.

  55. gcsuk says: Sep 21, 2011 11:03 AM

    Please make sure that they also change the rule for every punter who fakes an injury when they get touched on the shoelace, or every player who fakes a flop to get a Personal Foul call, or every WR who fakes getting held and then gets all indignant to get a PI call…

    The list of “cheating” is endless.

  56. katojune says: Sep 21, 2011 11:11 AM

    Here is a fix that I think many have said already.

    If a player goes to the ground for an injury that creates an official timeout then that player must for the remaining plays in that current series.

    If the player just walks off the field himself or the team calls a timeout the player does not need to sit once they are ready to return. (So if your starting QB hurts his hand he doesn’t need an official timeout.)

    This covers the NFL with player safety and also gives a stiff penalty for faking.

    For those saying they will just put in a 3rd stringer you are correct but it would be a lot more difficult to substitute a player in especially on defense.

    A whole quarter is way too long

  57. dexterismyhero says: Sep 21, 2011 11:15 AM

    Willie McGinest from the Pat’s Cheating Years did this against the Colts……

  58. steelersmichele says: Sep 21, 2011 11:21 AM

    What if it’s the beginning of the game and your #1 receiver gets hit hard after a catch and goes down, just shaken up. Really want him sitting out the first half?

    What if you QB gets hit in the leg at the beginning of a crucial game winning drive? He’s okay, but he is forced to sit out the rest of the game while your backup QB takes control. I bet you don’t want that either.

    Reminds me of when A Rod faked getting it by a pitch. The ball clearly hit his bat in replay, but he milked it and got first base. That didn’t affect baseball–and this won’t either.

  59. steelersmichele says: Sep 21, 2011 11:24 AM

    Correction: That didn’t affect baseball–and this won’t effect football.

  60. tdk24 says: Sep 21, 2011 11:41 AM

    I expect this type of behavior from a NY team.

  61. cowboysblowgoats says: Sep 21, 2011 11:42 AM

    If faking injuries wasn’t legal, soccer would not exist.

  62. browntown57 says: Sep 21, 2011 11:44 AM

    It get too complicated using a time limit to return or trying to count a set number of plays (other than the current ’1′ play).

    How about if they have to stop play because of an injury, you can’t reenter the game until a first down is made (or a score or change of possession). The team also has the option of using a timeout to have a player reenter. It keeps it neat and simple.

  63. hatrhurter says: Sep 21, 2011 11:58 AM

    steelersmichele,
    it was jeter not A Rod

  64. mike83ri says: Sep 21, 2011 12:09 PM

    “They couldn’t get subbed, they couldn’t line up,” Rams quarterback Sam Bradford said. “Someone said, ‘Someone go down, someone go down,’ so someone just went down and grabbed a cramp.”

    I find it hard to believe that there wasn’t a single mic’d up player when that happened. Can’t they pull the audio and try to catch this being said? That’s proof enough to me.

  65. alaricsrevenge says: Sep 21, 2011 12:11 PM

    nfl fan says:
    Sep 21, 2011 10:42 AM
    Focus on something that you can actually improve, like “fan conduct” at the Stadiums.

    Start with Philadelphia, that should keep you busy for a while.

    ———————————————-

    Didn’t take long for this old stigma to show itself did it? Sorry but we are too busy shooting our fans… Oh Wait, perhaps they got tazed… Oh wait, maybe we were beating people to a pulp in a bathroom…Oh wait..not us again. But we’re the bad ones… Santa was the 70′s dude.. get over it.

  66. bucsballer says: Sep 21, 2011 12:16 PM

    eh its the giants, am i suppose to be suprised?

  67. cbass59 says: Sep 21, 2011 12:19 PM

    Cleveland players have pretended to be professional football players for the last 12 years.

  68. pigskinswag says: Sep 21, 2011 12:23 PM

    If sports leagues start penalizing teams and players for faking things, Manu “Flop” Ginobilli is going to be in trouble.

  69. revengeofthefilthymcnasty says: Sep 21, 2011 12:26 PM

    this isn’t soccer for God’s sake. this isn’t high school or even collegiate level. these are “professionals”, most likely acting under orders from the coaching staff on an internationally televised game. It was more disgusting than laughable. this is the latest, best example of how the game has gotten “soft”.

    And while you’re at it, tell Coughlin to get out of 1956 and open up the playbook.

  70. cittyboy85 says: Sep 21, 2011 12:29 PM

    I’m with everyone who has suggested a rule change. The competition committee should investigate adding a rule that “if play is halted due to an injured player, said player must sit until a change of possession.” The rule is a win/win for and the NFL can sell it as they are concerned about the health and well-being of players. Players stop faking and the NFL gets to look like they’re safety conscious because they are protecting players from rushing out too soon after an injury.

  71. Deb says: Sep 21, 2011 12:34 PM

    bigdogsolec says:

    OR punish them by making them sit out 4-5 plays. if the player is really hurt ,most likely thats what he’d miss anyways.
    ————————————————-
    Much as I hate to say it, the league’s hands are tied to an extent. The first time they throw a flag and penalize a guy for faking who can later prove he was injured, they’re screwed. But bigdogsolec has the best solution. If a guy goes down requiring the clock to stop, then make him sit out the next two series regardless of his condition. Or make him sit out for the rest of that possession until the ball changes hands again. Teams aren’t going to want their stars missing for that many plays. Of course, they could substitute a scrub and have him go down, but something like that would be easier to peg as a fake and penalize.

  72. zaggs says: Sep 21, 2011 12:36 PM

    Wow, this is what, the fifth post about this? Yet only 1 on the Sproles non touchdown? Which play hurt the other team the most. The bears having 6 more points against them or the Rams still not scoring?

  73. adstout says: Sep 21, 2011 12:36 PM

    browninbos says: Sep 21, 2011 9:36 AM
    Very simple. Defensive players must remain out for the remainder of the offensive series if they go out with an injury. It has the nice added bonus of helping player safety so players with legitimate injuries don’t rush back in the game.

    I seriously wonder the IQ of people on these boards. First, making someone sit out a quarter or a half when injured is absurd. Yeah you’ll reduce faked injuries but you really want an important player ‘that actually has a minor injury’ to have to sit out when they could return to the game. Do people think out there ideas. Goodell is a moron, but a genius to many on these forums.

    As for the comment above relating to player safety, wouldn’t having them sit out longer decrease player safety as players with ‘legitimate’ minor injuries be less likely to admit being hurt and try to play hurt because they don’t want to be forced to sit out a quarter,series,half etc. Probably didn’t think of that one did you.

  74. zaggs says: Sep 21, 2011 12:40 PM

    “mike83ri says: Sep 21, 2011 12:09 PM

    “They couldn’t get subbed, they couldn’t line up,” Rams quarterback Sam Bradford said. “Someone said, ‘Someone go down, someone go down,’ so someone just went down and grabbed a cramp.”

    I find it hard to believe that there wasn’t a single mic’d up player when that happened. Can’t they pull the audio and try to catch this being said? That’s proof enough to me.”

    Bradford was confused, he heard the announcers talking a out his passer rating. Or maybe he heard the Rams coach telling their running back what to do. Wasn’t this the start of a goaline stand for the Giants? If you can’t get the ball in on 3 plays from inside the 5 you’ve got bigger problems than the other team faking an injury on 1 play (yes, 5 posts about 1 play). Seems there are alot of Rams apologists on here.

  75. adstout says: Sep 21, 2011 12:40 PM

    Solution: Continue taking timeouts when injury is within two minutes of the end of half. If a team is in hurry up (defined by two consecutive plays when the ball is hiked before the play clocks reaches 25, then the team with the injured player will be docked a timeout.

    Basically you have to eliminate the benefit of faking injury without unfairly penalizing teams with actual injuries. The faked injuries are happening when offenses are in hurry up, so they can start with with docking timeouts during this time.

  76. patriotinvasion says: Sep 21, 2011 12:43 PM

    The Giants are filthy CHEATERS! They probably did this to slow down the Patriots in Super Bowl XLII. This gives them a competitive advantage by preventing no huddle and getting more time to rest by breaking a RULE. The Giants Super Bowl is now TAINTED because we all know this must have been a systematic practice by Tom Coughcheat.

    Giants, 2007 Super Bowl Champs*

    Filthy cheaters! lol

  77. patriotinvasion says: Sep 21, 2011 12:46 PM

    Let’s go ESPN…get on this. 1st round pick, $500,000 fine. They BROKE A RULE by faking injuries to stop the Rams’ no huddle that they couldn’t stop. Competitive advantage by breaking a rule…CHEATERS!

  78. qdog112 says: Sep 21, 2011 12:48 PM

    Goodell, ever quick on the trigger, can’t get his gun out of the holster for this. He stands idly by while the NFL becomes the WWF.

  79. adstout says: Sep 21, 2011 12:49 PM

    browntown57 says: Sep 21, 2011 11:44 AM

    How about if they have to stop play because of an injury, you can’t reenter the game until a first down is made (or a score or change of possession). The team also has the option of using a timeout to have a player reenter. It keeps it neat and simple.
    ———————————————–

    Not sure how this eliminates the faked injuries. So if offense is in hurry up the defense can have a player (DT – whichever player is most easily substitutable) fake the injury, substitute for that player and basically still have time to catch their breath. If they stop them on downs then it was worth the ‘fake’. If the offense get the first down the substituted player can fake the injury and repeat the process.

    Your idea doesn’t eliminate the benefit of faking an injury at all.

  80. trigzter says: Sep 21, 2011 12:50 PM

    if its obvious, i dont see why the refs dont just call it a delay of game on the defense

  81. wuznotsobad says: Sep 21, 2011 12:54 PM

    You mean the Great Pumpkin might not arrive either?!

  82. adstout says: Sep 21, 2011 12:57 PM

    “mike83ri says: Sep 21, 2011 12:09 PM

    “They couldn’t get subbed, they couldn’t line up,” Rams quarterback Sam Bradford said. “Someone said, ‘Someone go down, someone go down,’ so someone just went down and grabbed a cramp.”

    I find it hard to believe that there wasn’t a single mic’d up player when that happened. Can’t they pull the audio and try to catch this being said? That’s proof enough to me.”
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    Really? you want the NFL to become detectives and “start pulling audio” to distinguish who was hurt, sort of hurt, and who’s faking. I guarantee you that if any rule is changed its not going to be based on determining whether the player is faking or really hurt. The refs screw up judgement calls as it is, doubt the NFL wants to add another to the mix.

  83. cancelsundayticket says: Sep 21, 2011 1:03 PM

    All teams fake injuries or embellish penalties. Basically, they do anything to gain an advantage.

    How else do you explain the punter holding his leg up in the air like a ballerina for 20 seconds, just hoping a guy comes near enough to him so he can fall to the ground like he run was over by a semi! lol

    Not saying it’s right, but…

  84. gimmeabruschi says: Sep 21, 2011 1:10 PM

    Solution? If a player is hurt and must stop play he cannot enter the game again for 5 clock minutes unless the team uses a timeout.

    Alternately? Assess a 5 yard penalty to the team that stops play for an injury unless they use a time out to cover it.

    In either case? Give teams 2 “injury” time outs extra per game that cannot be used during the last 5 minutes of a half.

  85. vahawker says: Sep 21, 2011 1:19 PM

    Only allow the player who is “hurt” to be substituted for. The D gets to take their undeserved break, but don’t get the advantage of being able to make bring in their special personel packages.(thanks CP’sMom)

  86. geauxjay says: Sep 21, 2011 1:25 PM

    Seriously–thank you for not calling it “Fakegate”

  87. Land Snark says: Sep 21, 2011 1:30 PM

    @ nfl fan

    “Start with Philadelphia, that should keep you busy for a while.”

    Brilliant and well stated.

    Because it was Philadelphia fans who brought out a tazer and fought with Jets fans, right?

    No, wait. It was Philadelphia fans who shouted at the women at games to lift up their shirts and show their goods.

    Hmmm. No. But there was that incident at the Linc where a fan was beat senseless in the bathroom at a preseason game this year, right?

    Guess not. It’s a well documented fact that the worst stadiums are all on the West Coast.

    But thanks for playing “Do I have a clue?”. Stay tuned for the lightning round where you can really embarrass yourself by stating misinformed opinions.

  88. kevinfromphilly says: Sep 21, 2011 1:49 PM

    Hey if they want to do soccer flops, give ‘em soccer penalties: Red card – play with ten guys the rest of the game.

  89. rajbais says: Sep 21, 2011 1:58 PM

    As the MNF intro guy Hank Williams would sing, “are you ready for some fakeball???!!!!”

  90. judsonjr says: Sep 21, 2011 2:09 PM

    I like how the NFL is trying to expunge any video of this from the internet, even animated gifs.

    Sorry Roger, you can’t just destroy this like it’s the Pats tapes.

  91. heyguru1969 says: Sep 21, 2011 2:10 PM

    National Futbol League

  92. jjbsew says: Sep 21, 2011 2:12 PM

    This has been around for years. In 1988, the Cincinnati Bengals beat the Buffalo Bills in the pre-season and then again in the regular season. The Bengals at that time were one of the first teams to run the no-huddle. Prior to the AFC Championship, Bills coach, Marv “Whiner” Levy was complaining about how the no-huddle shouldn’t be allowed. During the AFC Championship game, which the Bills lost, they had several defenders faking injuries to try to slow down the Bengals offense. The next year, Levy adopted the no-huddle and was crowned a coaching genius. In reality, he was a whiny copy-cat!

  93. theytukrjobs says: Sep 21, 2011 2:19 PM

    Most injuries are not fake. There are a LOT of injury slow downs through the course of a game. Penalizing teams for having injuries would cause more problems than it would ever solve.

    And catering it only to situations where the offense is using, in the referee’s estimation, a no huddle offense suddenly gives an added advantage to teams who use that tactic. It also favors home teams where the no huddle is easier to use. Bad idea.

    Just let them play the games. Pull the players for a play if they cause an injury delay and make it 5 plays if they go out a second time within 10 plays of the first. Just accept that this is a tactic of the game. Cheap to be sure, but a tactic nonetheless.

  94. melikefootball says: Sep 21, 2011 2:29 PM

    How does the league office even think to fine a player trying all he can to play the game in the correct manner, then gets fined for a hit or glance of helmet. Then two guys fall down in front of everyone and they do nothing. No wonder the players feel the way they do on God-del and his office.

  95. db105 says: Sep 21, 2011 2:29 PM

    How is this cheating if this is within the rules?

  96. jackwar says: Sep 21, 2011 2:36 PM

    Unfortunately for everyone involved, there is no way to police this issue, because no one can tell a player whether or not he is injured.

    That’s why it’s beyond foolish to impose some sort of knee-jerk penalty for an injury that occurs during a hurry-up offense, because inevitably you will penalize a team after sustaining a legitimate injury. Is that good policy, Mike?

    Penalizing a team because you Think, Possibly, they Might be faking the injury? In a game that injures 100% of those who play it?

    Good thing no one takes your Opinion seriously.

  97. adstout says: Sep 21, 2011 3:43 PM

    jackwar says: Sep 21, 2011 2:36 PM

    Unfortunately for everyone involved, there is no way to police this issue, because no one can tell a player whether or not he is injured.

    That’s why it’s beyond foolish to impose some sort of knee-jerk penalty for an injury that occurs during a hurry-up offense, because inevitably you will penalize a team after sustaining a legitimate injury. Is that good policy, Mike?
    ————————–
    This is exactly why you can’t leave it up to someone to decide if they are faking or not. I’ve read some seriously messed up ideas on how to prevent this stuff…from penalizing teams 5 yards when guys get hurt to red cards if the ref thinks your faking and playing a man down to Injured players having to sit out 2 quarters to having players sit out 5 plays if it is their 2nd time being hurt after being hurt within the previous 10 plays and giving teams additional 2 timeouts to use when there is an injury when they don’t want to substitute…nevermind

    The only thing that can be done is eliminate the benefit of faking injuries by taking timeouts away from teams during the end of a half and when injuries happen during hurry up offense (2 consecutive plays with 25+ secs on play clock)

    There is one thing that will actually hurt ratings and hurt the fans view of the game and that is faked injuries. Guys w/ thick necks complain about making the game flag football and taking contact out of game but the ratings prove that these rules aren’t affecting viewership. I’m betting if Goodell doesn’t get a hold of this if there is anything that will hurt the game its faked injuries. No longer will NFL fans be able to laugh at futbol fans and they faking of injuries.

  98. patriotinvasion says: Sep 21, 2011 4:29 PM

    db105 says: Sep 21, 2011 2:29 PM

    How is this cheating if this is within the rules?

    ____

    It’s not within the rules. Look it up.

  99. patriotinvasion says: Sep 21, 2011 4:30 PM

    FakeGate

  100. patriotinvasion says: Sep 21, 2011 4:33 PM

    No matter what the Giants do this season, their 28-16* win over the Rams will go down as an Asterisk for filthy, dirty CHEATING! It even caused the league to send out one of their “memos”

    Ha…as a Patriot fan, I see why you guys like this. It’s fun getting under people’s skin even if you know what you are saying is ridiculous.

    Giants = FILTHY CHEATS!

  101. keepyerstickontheice says: Sep 21, 2011 7:11 PM

    Sheesh, what a bunch of Euro-wussies. They’re like, the worst team in New Jersey, swear ta’ gad.

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