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“Suck for Luck” campaigns could result in eventual draft lottery

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Fans of the teams that quickly have congregated at the back of the pack are taking solace in the possibility of nailing down the first overall pick in the draft — and thus securing the rights to the next can’t-miss quarterback prospect, Andrew Luck.

For now, it’s too early for anyone to even entertain the prospect of intentionally losing.  Come November, maybe an owner or two whose team is out of the playoff hunt will decide to position his team to contend for the playoffs every year of the next decade, or beyond.

Making Luck more attractive is the rookie wage scale, which allows the team that “earns” that first pick to get him for a lot less than what teams have had to pay in recent years for the first overall pick.

So look for plenty of eventual suspicion and speculation that teams like the Dolphins or Colts or Seahawks are sucking for Luck.  And if there’s enough suspicion and speculation, the only answer will be to implement a draft lottery.

As explained in today’s PFT Live, I’m prepared to predict that we’ll see a draft lottery in 2013.

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57 Responses to ““Suck for Luck” campaigns could result in eventual draft lottery”
  1. philyeagles5 says: Sep 23, 2011 6:23 PM

    YAY implement a draft lottery. so instead of the teams making the decision to tank, the commissioner can just rig the results to his liking.

    HMMMMMM sound familiar
    *cough* David Stern *cough*

  2. rectumnearlykilledem says: Sep 23, 2011 6:24 PM

    Is that what the Jets were doing the past 40 years?

  3. favreforever says: Sep 23, 2011 6:28 PM

    Often chided for his West Virginia borderline defective look, Andrew showed absolutely no hesitation when asked which way was up.

  4. touchdownroddywhite says: Sep 23, 2011 6:31 PM


  5. belichekyourself says: Sep 23, 2011 6:33 PM

    A draft lottery would ruin football

  6. lukeb5301 says: Sep 23, 2011 6:36 PM

    Suspensions are already 100% handled by the Commish, & now you want him to help teams get the #1 Pick.. Please no!

  7. j98me2 says: Sep 23, 2011 6:50 PM

    This whole thing is stupid. How does anyone know he will hold up in the NFL or be able to compete.

    Anyone know the percentage of 1st round picks that are out of the NFL or warming a bench by the end of there rookie contracts?

  8. Gordon says: Sep 23, 2011 7:00 PM

    This is so dumb. The NFL is so different than the NBA because there are no “sure thing” picks in the NFL draft like there are in the NBA. NFL teams have no real incentive to tank a season like they do in the NBA (looking at you Cavs). Keep the NFL draft like it is.

  9. vols84 says: Sep 23, 2011 7:01 PM

    Nick Wright’s show in KC is garbage and this is where you got the term suck for luck. He can’t compete against 810 WHB’s Kevin Keitzman.

  10. stairwayto7 says: Sep 23, 2011 7:02 PM

    Draft lottery? Who gets in? Everyone who misses the draft? So a 8-8, 9-7 team MIGHT get the 1st pick of the draft??? You know that if the rat Goodell has a hand in it he will make sure “his teams” get higher picks..would it be done live or behind closed doors in your serneio?? Hope this never happens!!

  11. soultek says: Sep 23, 2011 7:11 PM

    A draft lottery in the NFL is possibly the worst idea I have ever heard of – first of, I can almost guarentee no team is sucking for luck as much as their fans might want them too. It’s incredibly difficult to intend to lose and not make it look like your intending to lose.

    I mean look at how great actors NFL players are – how did anyone ever guess that the Giants might be faking injuries? The presentation was amazing…

  12. savannahrose44 says: Sep 23, 2011 7:14 PM

    Since when has an 0-2 start to a season been evidence of any team “tanking.” Way to early to be making unfounded claims like that. It’s especially laughable that you include the Seahawks in this group as they are in the middle of a complete rebuild. 0-2 to start is not unheard of in a rebuilding year.

  13. bearsrulepackdrool says: Sep 23, 2011 7:21 PM

    So instead of Luck being Manning’s replacement he can be Brady’s. Sweet!!

  14. realfann says: Sep 23, 2011 7:28 PM

    Two games into the league year and PFT is asking this question???

    Jeesh. A tad premature don’t you think??

  15. canadianvikingfaniii says: Sep 23, 2011 7:28 PM

    That has to be what the Seahawks are doing. There is no sane way after what happened in Minnesota that Tarvaris Jackson gets handed the starting job in another team without competition.

  16. rando74 says: Sep 23, 2011 7:37 PM

    Somewhere Patrick Ewing is laughing his ass off.

  17. paulieorkid says: Sep 23, 2011 7:43 PM

    (1) On a micro scale, some teams may read this as “if you want to get away with this stunt, ya better do it now before the windo of opp seals (permanently)”;


    (2) On a macro scale, I can totally see Goodell (and Park Avenue, etc.) seeing an NFL draft lottery as another way to grow the NFL revenue pie. As the pie grows, everyone associated is enriched — from NFL owners to the players to the networks to the sponsors.

  18. cured76 says: Sep 23, 2011 7:58 PM

    It’d be hilarious if Denver gets the #1 pick. Tebow fans would go nuts knowing their savior would be cut since he has no trade value.

  19. packerjer says: Sep 23, 2011 7:59 PM

    The Seahawks started their “suck for Luck” campaign in the offseason. Tarvaris Jackson. ’nuff said.

  20. bostonbias says: Sep 23, 2011 8:36 PM

    This is a terrible terrible terrible idea.

    One of the worst I have ever read here.

  21. thedonnilhama says: Sep 23, 2011 8:46 PM

    Here it comes now……”With the first pick in the 2015 Draft the New England Patriots pick”.

    Jeepers Mr Goodel Amazing they had a 1 in 18,000 shot to be drwan number 1!

  22. nyyankeedave says: Sep 23, 2011 9:02 PM

    Season is still young, but Luck is going to SF.

  23. johnnyoclock says: Sep 23, 2011 9:03 PM

    Man PFT Headquarters is so full of alarmists with…


    Ok so now the alarmist conspiracy theory du jour is tanking that will cause a draft lottery. (Can we get a days-without-a-PFT-conspiracy calandar?)

    1. NO coach takes any loss, or their record lightly. NO coach will tank. They’re all too ego-centric.

    2. Sometimes the first overall pick is more a curse. Tim Couch vs McNabb. Leaf vs Manning. Look at the Qbs in Roethlesberger’s class vs where he went and compare their careers.

    There’s a dumb assumption by PFT (noooo realllly?) that tanking actually automatically makes you a future winner. It’s all a crap shoot. There’s other good QB’s out there in the draft as well.

    Point is, this is more PFT alarmist nonsense. Do they take a breath and count to 10 before they put up posts?

  24. kcwolf88 says: Sep 23, 2011 9:23 PM

    I have written your prediction down. I predict you will be wrong.

  25. jonevans83 says: Sep 23, 2011 9:38 PM

    So what happens when Suck of Luck turns into Luck Sucks?

  26. jonevans83 says: Sep 23, 2011 9:38 PM

    So what happens when “Suck for Luck” turns into ” Luck Sucks”?

  27. Deb says: Sep 23, 2011 9:57 PM

    It’s too difficult to gauge QB talent to make that a worthwhile gamble.

  28. steeltown56 says: Sep 23, 2011 10:21 PM

    NBA Owners are weak and give into David Stern’s every whim. NFL owners carry a big stick, and will never let this happen.

  29. tjacks7 says: Sep 23, 2011 10:23 PM

    Why not just throw every team in the lottery so Roger Goodell can hand pick the draft order?

  30. trbowman says: Sep 23, 2011 10:32 PM

    My comment was strangley deleted.

    Had to add – we’ll know the Colts have tossed in the towel once Painter relieves Collins

  31. skinsrock says: Sep 23, 2011 10:34 PM

    I believe there are 3 or 4 QB’s coming out this year that are almost all the same rating…. GREAT…. I def think Luck, Barkley, & Landry will be successful and early 1st rounders… I’m sure there will be another guy also… maybe a guy like Kellen Moore could be surprise also. Luck’s the big name, but plenty of chance the other guys in the right system could be just as successful.

  32. dkeyser says: Sep 23, 2011 10:34 PM

    and Luck flips off any team that tanks it this year by going back for his senior season…now that would be funny

  33. nooneyouknow says: Sep 23, 2011 10:39 PM

    Terrible idea. Would ruin the draft

  34. 4evrnyt says: Sep 23, 2011 10:47 PM

    Two words should end the lottery debate:

    Frozen envelope

    Look it up if you have to

  35. mvlonergan says: Sep 23, 2011 10:56 PM

    No. No draft lottery. Please Goodell. Don’t do it. It’s bad enough the NFL already has flopping like the NBA and the effing Montreal Canadiens. Don’t model the best of the major sports leagues after the worst of them.

  36. Deb says: Sep 23, 2011 11:11 PM

    @trbowman … this is a strange place.

  37. steelerfan999 says: Sep 23, 2011 11:18 PM


  38. borisbulldog says: Sep 23, 2011 11:20 PM

    And the good teams will play under the mantra- “Luck will Suck”!

  39. dude317 says: Sep 23, 2011 11:20 PM

    A draft lottery would be moronic. The draft has worked pretty darned well for a lot of years. Don’t F with what isn’t broken.

  40. catman72 says: Sep 23, 2011 11:50 PM

    Gonna be even funnier when Luck sucks.

  41. nflfuturist says: Sep 23, 2011 11:59 PM

    I would hope the NFL is smart enough not to take a page from the NBA’s playbook.

    Going to be interesting to see how Vegas monitors the situation. They’ll know if teams are tanking and the spreads will tell the story. Money don’t lie.

  42. Andre's Johnson says: Sep 24, 2011 12:02 AM


  43. joelfrench5 says: Sep 24, 2011 12:11 AM

    Look at the Detroit Lions in 2008, i know they were horrible, but wanting to draft Matt Stafford played a role in why they were winless.

  44. youboettcha says: Sep 24, 2011 1:26 AM


    He just did that to the Panthers this year.

  45. descendency says: Sep 24, 2011 1:44 AM


    “It’s incredibly difficult to intend to lose and not make it look like your intending to lose.”

    Tell that to the Bengals.

  46. slick3 says: Sep 24, 2011 1:44 AM

    dude317 says:Sep 23, 2011 11:20 PM

    A draft lottery would be moronic. The draft has worked pretty darned well for a lot of years. Don’t F with what isn’t broken.
    Too late. They’re already doing that: Kickoffs from the thirty-five, horse-collars, please remove your head before you make a tackle, don’t breath on the quarterback and on, and on…

  47. patpatriotagain says: Sep 24, 2011 1:53 AM


  48. kingjoe1 says: Sep 24, 2011 9:00 AM


    What would Tebow do is the question and the answer.

  49. dryzzt23 says: Sep 24, 2011 10:43 AM

    Draft lottery = NYJ or NYG get the 1st pick every year “for the good of the league” or at least until some team moves to LA then the 1st pick will alternate b/w LA and NY and perhaps New Orleans so as to not appear to be “racist”

  50. trollhammer20 says: Sep 24, 2011 10:45 AM

    Seattle is doomed not to get Luck, since their stretch run has three games against the rest of the NFC West.

    Also, not sure how many people are aware of this, but Luck is a redshirt junior with another year of eligibility. Doesn’t really make sense to tank an entire season for a guy who may decide to stay in college another year.

    The biggest “conspiracy” I could see is that a guy like Pete Carroll, who is in the middle of totally rebuilding a team, might have looked at the available QB options this offseason, looked ahead at who might be available in 2012 (Luck, Barkley, Jones, Moore, etc.), and decided it might be a good year to rebuild the offensive line and bring in someone on the cheap to play QB for a season.

  51. chazatlas says: Sep 24, 2011 12:21 PM

    The mere fact so many have made Andrew Luck out to be the next coming of Christ means that HE will be the bust and Cam Newton will win a Super Bowl and be inducted in Canton. Karma is a mofo.

  52. godofwine330 says: Sep 24, 2011 6:12 PM

    I am against a lottery because just as the REAL lottery, and the Patrick Ewing lottery, and even the LeBron lottery…it is fixed.

    I don’t want to see a lottery in my NFL, but with that plick Roger Goodell, I will probably see it…that and the extension of the EA Sports EXCLUSIVE RIGHTS contract with the NFL, even though Madden has been terrible for at least the past 5 years. (bring back 2K Sports please. Competition makes everyone and everything better)

    (I know that last part didn’t fit the subject, but I needed to say it.)

  53. failcopter says: Sep 24, 2011 11:14 PM

    This must have occurred to Oakland at halftime last week. Only explanation.

  54. couldntthinkofaname says: Sep 26, 2011 3:18 AM

    favreforever says: Sep 23, 2011 6:28 PM

    Often chided for his West Virginia borderline defective look, Andrew showed absolutely no hesitation when asked which way was up.


    This coming from a guy with a man crush on Brett “Hee Haw” Favre.

  55. couldntthinkofaname says: Sep 26, 2011 3:22 AM

    4evrnyt says: Sep 23, 2011 10:47 PM

    Two words should end the lottery debate:

    Frozen envelope

    Look it up if you have to


    The dry cleaners called. Your tin foil hat is ready to pick up.

  56. halasfan says: Sep 26, 2011 7:38 AM

    Maybe Luck will be better than Peyton Manning just like Ryan Leaf was going to be better….
    Wait a sec, how many time did leaf make it to the playoffs???

  57. no1youzer says: Sep 29, 2011 1:31 PM

    What is wrong with intentionally tanking a whole season away?

    If a team, wants to do that, let them.

    It’s a great way to let bad teams get a leg up. Plus, there is no guarantee you will be the worst team; especially, in a year like this with SOOOO many bad teams. It’s a HUGE risk to “Suck for Luck”, but if team decides it is a good strategy: LET THEM.

    There is ABSOLUTELY no need for a draft lottery.

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