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Brady starts second decade as Pats starter

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Tom Brady has said that he wants to play 10 more years.  As several of you have pointed out, Friday marked the 10-year anniversary of his arrival on the NFL scene.

On September 23, 2001, Jets linebacker Mo Lewis applied a lung-damaging hit to Drew Bledsoe.  Brady took over while Bledsoe healed, and the career of one of the greatest players in NFL history was launched.

Some wonder what would have happened if Bledsoe hadn’t been injured.  There’s a school of thought that Brady was destined to overcome Bledsoe regardless of injury, and that coach Bill Belichick at a minimum had been toying with the idea of putting Bledsoe on the bench.

This much is clear — Bledsoe didn’t play the classic role of Wally Pipp.  When Brady suffered an injury during the AFC title game at Pittsburgh, Bledsoe came in and presided over the win.  Though Bledsoe was more of a bystander than a gamebreaker in that victory, there was considerable hand-wringing in Boston regarding the question of whether Bledsoe or Brady should get the nod in Super Bowl XXXVI.

In the end, Bledsoe didn’t pull a Pipp on Brady.  Belichick made the decision that he supposedly had been pondering before Bledsoe’s injury.  The team won the Super Bowl, Bledsoe was traded to Buffalo for a first-round pick in 2003, and the Pats won two more Super Bowls while being perennial contenders.  (Bledsoe, by the way, was inducted into the team’s Hall of Fame last weekend.)

Though it’s been seven years since the last championship, Brady authored in 2007 and 2010 two of the best single seasons in league history.  This year, he has had the two best regular-season games of his career (statistically), and he seems to have deliberately kicked his game to another level.

Whether it’s a burning desire to be known as the best ever or simply the confluence of still-sharp physical skills and sufficient experience to make the best decisions and execute them well, Brady is moving toward the mantle of his boyhood idol, Joe Montana.  And at Brady’s current pace, he’ll surpass it.

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  1. richm2256 says: Sep 24, 2011 10:40 AM

    It’s common knowledge that Belichick wasn’t a huge fan of Drew Bledsoe. After the QB debacle in Cleveland, Belichick was hesitant to de-throne the long-established Bledsoe, who had just been given a king’s ransom of a new contract by Kraft.

    But he clearly didn’t know Tom Brady was going to be what he became, either, or Bledsoe would have been traded without a doubt.

  2. tallguyme says: Sep 24, 2011 10:41 AM

    I hope to see him playing great for another decade.

  3. Phintastic says: Sep 24, 2011 10:45 AM

    I’m not a fan of the Pats, but the dude is en fuego!!!

  4. towniesman says: Sep 24, 2011 10:45 AM

    Awesome Tom but its about time we made some kinda run in the playoffs huh ?

  5. sschmiggles says: Sep 24, 2011 10:47 AM

    He’ll only surpass it if he wins another Super Bowl, at least in the eyes of the public.

    Statistically, he’s already significantly better than Montana, and he didn’t have Jerry Rice to help him out–an underrated part of Brady/Montana comparisons, imo. Though I’ll admit he’s playing in a different era, and did have Randy Moss for two seasons (the other season was with Cassel).

    But he still needs to win another ring.

  6. billionsvsmillions says: Sep 24, 2011 10:48 AM

    Brady took over while Bledsoe healed, and the career of one of the greatest players in NFL history was launched…..

    Uh, If I knew where the blitz was coming from, what coverage was being used, etc… I to would be one of the greatest players in the NFL. Not to mention of course Coach as well.

  7. righthereisay says: Sep 24, 2011 10:57 AM

    He won Super Bowls while cheating. Had they not cheated, they may not have one. Nobody can deny that. He beat my team in the playoffs, and it was proven that they cheated that game.

    I hope he gets injured immediately and is unable to ever play again.

  8. realfootballfan says: Sep 24, 2011 10:59 AM

    Many speak of Brady’s ascension as some kind of accidental discovery. As I recall, Belichick and the coaching staff had liked Brady’s quicker release over Bledsoe’s lumbering style through that ’01 training camp.

    Brady had outplayed Bledsoe in the pre-season and Bledsoe simply remained the starter because he was the $100 million franchise QB. However, Belichick would have benched him eventually had they continued losing, which was very likely, if only to see how he performed in a lost season.

    Instead, injury forced their hand and they ended up winning the Super Bowl, even if it was fraudulently awarded when the Raiders got screwed in the “what the tuck” game.

  9. ossipeepats says: Sep 24, 2011 11:07 AM

    @billionsvsmillions; are you saying you would be a better quarterback than Drew Bledsoe?

  10. pfii63 says: Sep 24, 2011 11:08 AM

    Let the haters hate… Pats fans don’t care.

    Without another Super Bowl ring, the debate will rage as to where to rank Brady, but he is in the top three all-time already.

    With another ring, the debate is over. Brady is the best. Ever.

  11. duanethomas says: Sep 24, 2011 11:10 AM

    I’ve said it before and will say it again, the Belichick, Brady, Kraft regime will not win another Superbowl. That window is closed and they may win another Superbowl, but not together. History has shown you win when your window is open, theirs closed in 07.

  12. herlies says: Sep 24, 2011 11:13 AM

    “Statistically, he’s already significantly better than Montana”

    Not in the playoffs.

  13. bullcharger says: Sep 24, 2011 11:16 AM

    billionsvsmillions says:Sep 24, 2011 10:48 AM

    Brady took over while Bledsoe healed, and the career of one of the greatest players in NFL history was launched…..

    Uh, If I knew where the blitz was coming from, what coverage was being used, etc… I to would be one of the greatest players in the NFL. Not to mention of course Coach as well.

    ————-

    It sounds like you’ve been blitzed one too many times already.

  14. rectumnearlykilledem says: Sep 24, 2011 11:16 AM

    He’s already a top 5 QB of all time and the best of his generation but if he wants to be the best ever he’s gonna need at least one more SB. And people who bring up Peyton Manning ? Get back to me when he has a winning record in the postseason – until then there isn’t even a discussion.

  15. Little Earthquake says: Sep 24, 2011 11:16 AM

    It’s the sign of a great franchise: One pretty good quarterback followed by a great one. Bledsoe was a lot of fun to watch in his day. Brady may be the best ever. Of course we have to adjust for Brady’s era, but if you study his YPA he’s been phenomenal (except in that playoff loss to the Jets…)

  16. wikidpissah says: Sep 24, 2011 11:20 AM

    billionsvsmillions says:

    Uh, If I knew where the blitz was coming from, what coverage was being used, etc… I to would be one of the greatest players in the NFL. Not to mention of course Coach as well.

    ===================================

    His greatest statistical years have come AFTER “spygate,” but don’t let facts get in the way of a stupid response.

  17. kenboslice says: Sep 24, 2011 11:23 AM

    @billionsvsmillions I award you no points, and may god have mercy on your soul.

  18. cengelman93 says: Sep 24, 2011 11:23 AM

    The part of the Brady story I like is how he walked up to Kraft after being drafted 199 and told him that drafting him was the best decision Kraft ever made.

    The thing that has made Brady great is his determination. They say that right after being drafted, Brady was always the first at practice and always put the extra time in to learn the game and the Pats system.

    In a generation where athletes question the need of practice, Brady’s story shows how the great ones accomplish their goals.

    With that said, for Brady to set himself apart, he needs more rings.

  19. steeltown56 says: Sep 24, 2011 11:40 AM

    That 2001 AFC Championship game Brings back Bad Memories. I know the Steelers Defense was in Brady’s head that day. I was actually mad when Chad Scott knocked Brady out. Patriot Fan will no doubt disagree, but i think Bledsoe saved their ass. No disrespect to Tom Brady, Who became one of the greatest players in NFL history. Its 9/24/11 1140am and Kordell Stewart still sucks.

  20. wikidpissah says: Sep 24, 2011 11:52 AM

    herlies says: Sep 24, 2011 11:13 AM

    “Statistically, he’s already significantly better than Montana”

    Not in the playoffs.

    ====================================

    Actually, he is:

    Brady 14-5 (.737)
    Montana 16-7 (.696)

    Brady: Twice 1 and done in the playoffs
    Montana: Four times 1 and done in the playoffs

    I agree however, that Brady needs another SB to surpass Montana in the eyes of most.

    Brady: 3 SBs
    Montana 4 SBs

  21. cosanostra71 says: Sep 24, 2011 11:54 AM

    I’m sure a lot of QBs could win games if they knew what play the defense was running. Brady has put up nice numbers after the Pats got caught cheating and had to stop, but he hasn’t won a whole lot in the playoffs, which is not a coincidence

  22. flaccounibrow says: Sep 24, 2011 11:55 AM

    @wikidpissah
    Once a cheater…..Always a cheater. I hate billy boy, but he is smart. I’m sure he figured out another way to cheat.

  23. ampats says: Sep 24, 2011 12:15 PM

    Morons like righthereisay are what makes Pats fans like me smile when I read their stupidity but I guess many people ont his ite are not too bright.

    Pats had a huge unfair advantage to fans like it because of where they videotaped coaches signals?

    Childplease !!!! Enjoy the season watching the best QB in the NFL lead his team into another Championship.

  24. tombradyallday says: Sep 24, 2011 12:18 PM

    theres only one tom brady so im def going to enjoy watching the greatness. brady is on a mission this year. get ring number 4

  25. realfootballfan says: Sep 24, 2011 12:38 PM

    I don’t know why fans need to justify greatness by comparing players from different eras. Brady is the best QB of his era, which is all that matters. Montanna was the greatest of his era, Bart Starr was the greatest of his era, etc.

    Not only have rules changed dramatically for receivers and defensive backs, but you’ve had many other tweaks to the game like the kickoff point being changed from 35 to 30 and now back to 35 again.

    Please stop comparing players from different eras because this isn’t a Madden video game. Defenses have changed, rules have changed, even the way QBs run the offense has changed.

  26. favreforever says: Sep 24, 2011 1:08 PM

    Here’s a question for regular PFT readers, Who was the first baseman for the Yankees who took over after Wally Pipp was injured?

  27. grogansheroes says: Sep 24, 2011 1:18 PM

    realfootballfan says:
    Sep 24, 2011 10:59 AM
    Many speak of Brady’s ascension as some kind of accidental discovery. As I recall, Belichick and the coaching staff had liked Brady’s quicker release over Bledsoe’s lumbering style through that ’01 training camp.

    Brady had outplayed Bledsoe in the pre-season and Bledsoe simply remained the starter because he was the $100 million franchise QB. However, Belichick would have benched him eventually had they continued losing, which was very likely, if only to see how he performed in a lost season.

    Instead, injury forced their hand and they ended up winning the Super Bowl, even if it was fraudulently awarded when the Raiders got screwed in the “what the tuck” game.
    ———————————————-
    I think it is funny how Raider fans complain about the tuck rule. It had been called against the Pats earlier in that season. But back in 1976, the Pats played the Raiders in the playoffs in Oakland. In that game the Raiders were handed the game by an awful call by Ben Dreith. It was 4th down with seconds remaining, and gave the Raiders a first and goal, which they scored to win the game. In 2001, all the Raiders had to do was convert a third and one to win, but couldn’t do that. The kicker had to kick a 45 yard field goal in a blizzard to tie the game. Point being, the Raiders still had a chance to win, back in ’76, the Pats did not. So I consider the Raiders Super Bowl tainted. But, it was probably before even your father was born.

  28. august1969 says: Sep 24, 2011 1:18 PM

    Brady is already the best ever and his farts smell like roses

  29. dolphandan says: Sep 24, 2011 1:33 PM

    He has benefited from inside information that NO OTHER QB in the history of football has had access to. He and his P.O.S coach have placed a stain on the NFL that can never be removed.

  30. jpmelon says: Sep 24, 2011 1:35 PM

    Call me when Tom Brady starts calling his own plays….until then, Peyton is king.

    You want proof of which QB is more important? OK.

    Brady gets a season ending injury game 1; the Patriots go 11-5 for the season.

    Peyton misses the season; the Colts are the front-runners for the Andrew Luck Derby.

  31. favreforever says: Sep 24, 2011 1:35 PM

    For younger fans who read this site, the trivia question is “Who took over from Wally Pipp as the Yankees first baseman?”. Most would be stumped, I’m sure.

  32. herlies says: Sep 24, 2011 1:36 PM

    “Statistically, he’s already significantly better than Montana”

    Not in the playoffs

    “Actually, he is:Brady 14-5 (.737) Montana 16-7 (.696)”

    I was referring to his numbers not his W-L record.

    “Brady: Twice 1 and done in the playoffs Montana: Four times 1 and done in the playoffs”

    Montana also never lost a SB.

  33. herlies says: Sep 24, 2011 1:42 PM

    “and he didn’t have Jerry Rice to help him out–an underrated part of Brady/Montana comparisons, imo.”

    Montana won half of his titles before Jerry Rice was even in the league. Half of the posters on this site never even saw Joe Montana play.

  34. joerevs300 says: Sep 24, 2011 1:48 PM

    For disclosure this is coming from a Steelers fan…

    There are very few QB’s that go out there, especially for an entire DECADE, and are the SINGLE most important factor in whether their teams will win or lose. Sometimes I think we fans get way too hung up on the # of SB’s a QB has defining their greatness. Does that mean guys like Warren Moon, Jim Kelly, Dan Marino, etc. were NOT some of the greatest to ever play at their position? Was their their fault, solely, their respective team did no win the Super Bowl?

    Tom Brady in my mind IS one of the 10 best QB’s to ever play the game. That I can say without argument. If he had not been the Pats QB, the Steelers very likely would have had 2 more cracks at the SB and probably would have won 1 of them to get to 7. Outside of Baltimore, no other team in the past decade has been more of a thorn in our side then the Patriots.

    Say what you want about Spygate…but don’t think the 31 OTHER teams are not trying to cheat either. To think otherwise is significantly naive. Tom Brady hasn’t exactly had the “big name” WR’s on the Pats roster to throw to (think Deion Branch would have been a household name without Brady? I doubt it. Wes Welker?). Yet the SYSTEM (much like Montana’s 49ers) plays to the strengths of the roster, and that’s why the Pats have so much success.

    Love him or hate him, Tom Brady is one of the best QB’s in NFL history. My hope is that despite all that Ben has done wrong (and that’s a LONG list), if he wins another SB he will get his due as well. I don’t see how you cannot consider Big Ben one of the top 20-25 QB’s to ever play when he had 2 rings, and played in a 3rd, but Phillip Rivers gets a lot more run for someone who’s done nothing in the playoffs.

  35. 3octaveFart says: Sep 24, 2011 1:50 PM

    Just once I’d like to read a story about Tom Brady here that says he kicked a little kids dog…

  36. patsfiend says: Sep 24, 2011 2:03 PM

    righthereisay says:
    He won Super Bowls while cheating. Had they not cheated, they may not have one. Nobody can deny that. He beat my team in the playoffs, and it was proven that they cheated that game.

    I hope he gets injured immediately and is unable to ever play again.
    ======================

    All he’s done is have an undefeated season (almost), the best record in the NFL, break the TD and INT records and put together two of the best seasons for a QB EVER since the supposed “cheating.”

    Filming signals was not illegal, and as Johnson, Cowher, and others have pointed out, was being done by many teams, and ALL were notified about it. It just took a treacherous creep like Mangini and a new commissioner (looking to make his mark) like Goodell, and a ridiculous vote-hound like Spector to come together and single-out the Pats for it. People always go after the team at the top (see Trojans, USC, for a similar story.)

    Brady has overcome numerous coaches, lousy receivers, a busted up knee, playing in an ice box half the year, and getting out from under Bledsoe and his low draft pick to get where he is today… which is the unquestionable best QB in the NFL.

    I know all the Pats haters don’t want to hear it, but as long as Brady, Belichick, and Kraft are running the show in New England, the window is OPEN.

    I will now step away from the keyboard, and make a small prayer that they win one more. That’s all I ask. One more. Please.

  37. patsfiend says: Sep 24, 2011 2:13 PM

    @righthereisay

    Also, by the way, you are a real classless creep wishing injury on anyone. Never, on my most frustrated day as a fan, would I wish a Manning, Rivers, Sanchez, or any of the other Pats adversaries a season-ending injury.

    (Though, admittedly, maybe just a little sprained ankle or something for Rex or Sanchez would be nice.)

  38. j3ts83 says: Sep 24, 2011 2:26 PM

    ampats says:
    Sep 24, 2011 12:15 PM
    Morons like righthereisay are what makes Pats fans like me smile when I read their stupidity but I guess many people ont his ite are not too bright.

    Pats had a huge unfair advantage to fans like it because of where they videotaped coaches signals?

    Childplease !!!! Enjoy the season watching the best QB in the NFL lead his team into another Championship.

    ________________________________

    Really? take a look what Terrific Tom has done ever since getting caught for cheating. He is getting outplayed by Sanchez in the playoffs while winning NOTHING hahaha

  39. TheWizard says: Sep 24, 2011 2:28 PM

    Does anybody really believe SpyGate made Brady?

    I mean, really?

    Teams are still filming defensive signals, if they so desire, legally from the press box level.

    Try to understand, if you are able.

  40. soxpatsceltsbs says: Sep 24, 2011 2:30 PM

    @patsfiend!!! So glad someone finally posted what Bill Cohwer and Jimmy Johnson said ON AIR!! All teams video taped….Hell Johnson said he even sent his guys into the visiting teams locker rooms after half time to search garbage cans for any strategic info!!! Let me be CLEAR all of this was wrong…… but someone needed to be the scapegoat and everyone hates the one on Top!!! It’s over so let’s all stop jawing about it!!! Even Mangini regrets it!! So There!!

  41. beretta96d says: Sep 24, 2011 2:35 PM

    Lou Gherig?

    Go Pats!

  42. CKL says: Sep 24, 2011 2:39 PM

    3octaveFart says:
    Sep 24, 2011 1:50 PM
    Just once I’d like to read a story about Tom Brady here that says he kicked a little kids dog…
    _______________________________
    Of course you would, then you could chime in with your usual crybaby “CHEATER” nonsense on top of finally having a real actual reason to talk bad about him as a person. I know you love those opportunities like a fat kid loves cake. It’s sad really what jealousy does to people.

    @joerevs…thank you dude, you are a true fan of the game. Steelers and Pats are certainly one of the better non divisional rivalries.

  43. herlies says: Sep 24, 2011 3:11 PM

    Some of you people need to get over spygate. And that goes for the NE fans who get upset whenever somebody brings it up.

  44. richm2256 says: Sep 24, 2011 3:48 PM

    cosanostra71 says:
    I’Brady has put up nice numbers after the Pats got caught cheating and had to stop, but he hasn’t won a whole lot in the playoffs, which is not a coincidence
    ———————————————————
    So you’re saying that if he put up his two best record-breaking seasons AFTER Spygate (18-1, 14-2), the “cheating” had nothing to do with winning, yet he sucks in the playoffs AFTER Spygate because the cheating had EVERYTHING to do with winning?

    Do you undertand how ridiculous you sound?

    Brady had his two best seasons AFTER Spygate, which proves he is legit. You CAN’T deny that. And if he’s legit, those Super Bowls aren’t tainted. He WON those games.

    You idiots keep forgetting that during that Super Bowl run, filming coaches signals was LEGAL, and EVERY team was doing it.

    EVERY team.

    It was LEGAL, don’t you morons understand that????

    Spygate occurred because in 2007 the league changed the rule about WHERE teams could film FROM, and Belichick continued filming from a now-forbidden location.

    And NOT ONCE have they been accused by the league or ANY NFL TEAM of taping ANY “walk-throughs”.

    EVER.

    Taint THIS, hater’s.

  45. righthereisay says: Sep 24, 2011 3:52 PM

    Thanks for all of the great comments Pats fans.

    You cheated. You got caught. Usually cheaters do other things to cheat too. You only got caught on one of them. Just like the person who gets arrested. They’ve done bad things maybe 10 times, but only got arrested once.

    Your team cheated. I agree, Tom Brady is probably the best of all time. However, he cheated, and hurt my city by cheating. I want him out of the game.

  46. ampats says: Sep 24, 2011 3:55 PM

    j3ts83,

    Typical jests fan! I believe in 2007 AFTER Goodell fined and took away a 1st round draft pick “Tom Terrific” took the Patriots to the Super Bowl. Yes, they lost to the team that your favorite team is considered the red headed stepchild to.

    What have the jets accomplished in 42 years? Oh, I forgot the beat the Patriots in the divisional playoff game last year 28-21, the GREATEST victory in the history of the jets.

    And how did that turn out in Pittsburgh?

    Childplease jets fans. Let us know when the jets actually win something.

    Happy 42nd !!

  47. richm2256 says: Sep 24, 2011 3:56 PM

    dolphandan says:
    Sep 24, 2011 1:33 PM
    He has benefited from inside information that NO OTHER QB in the history of football has had access to. He and his P.O.S coach have placed a stain on the NFL that can never be removed.

    ———————————————————
    Taping signals has NEVER been “illegal” in NFL history …. in fact, it’s legal RIGHT NOW, moron, provided you do so from an “authorized” spot.

    Every NFL quarterback in history has enjoyed the exact same benefits as Brady, since the film camera was invented.

    Did you just start following football by reading Cheatriot’s posts?

  48. richm2256 says: Sep 24, 2011 4:03 PM

    jpmelon says:
    Sep 24, 2011 1:35 PM
    Call me when Tom Brady starts calling his own plays….until then, Peyton is king.

    ——————————————————–
    You ever hear of an “audible”, moron? They BOTH do that. Brady gestures and calls out the audible, while Manning goes into spastic jumps all over the place and barks like a dog.

    They’re BOTH calling their own plays at that point, not just Manning.

    You think Manning calls every play himself, without the input of the coaching staff, unlike Brady? You ever see that green dot on the back of BOTH of their helmets, Chuckles? That dot means that each of them receives audio calls from their coaches through speakers in their helmets, telling them which plays to call.

    But apparently you believe that Manning’s is just there because he likes green dots.

    He calls all his OWN plays.

    Right.

  49. dolphandan says: Sep 24, 2011 4:22 PM

    You’re only fooling yourself Rchm2256

    I guess you think it was ok for them to video tape the pre game walk thru before the super bowl too.

  50. ytsejamer1 says: Sep 24, 2011 4:23 PM

    steeltown56 says:
    Sep 24, 2011 11:40 AM
    That 2001 AFC Championship game Brings back Bad Memories. I know the Steelers Defense was in Brady’s head that day. I was actually mad when Chad Scott knocked Brady out. Patriot Fan will no doubt disagree, but i think Bledsoe saved their ass.
    ——————————

    Wasn’t it Lee Flowers that took Brady out of that game? If I remember, it was like the second or third time they dove at the back of his legs in that game.

    As for Bledsoe…he made two good passes in that game. The TD pass on the first drive when he came on in relief of Brady, and one of the sweetest fade passes I’ve ever seen to Troy Brown on a third down…sometime in the second half.

    But other than that, he was pretty careless with the ball and coaches went back and evaluated the game…and Bledsoe was just as horrific as he usually was.

    Brady was surpassing Bledsoe in the preseason and in practice. The coaches were tired of Bledsoe holding onto the ball too long, taking sacks and also causing his line to have a ton of false starts due to taking forever to snap the ball.

  51. 8man says: Sep 24, 2011 4:29 PM

    @dolphandan:
    Really? After all the turmoil and futility that has been Miami football during and after Dan Marino that is all you have? Then again, if I were gay and I wanted the world to know that I was gay and that I was a Dolphins fan, I’d pick your handle. Not that there is anything wrong with that….

    @j3ts83:
    Because Sanchez has already won so much and eclipsed what Brady has done.

    @righthereisay:
    I hope you are gutted on your front lawn while your kids are forced to watch. How’s it feel to have someone say something like that about you?

    Go Patriots! Go Sox! Go Stanley Cup Champion Bruins! Go Green…when they play.

  52. kisstherings says: Sep 24, 2011 4:43 PM

    @herlies says:Sep 24, 2011 11:13 AM

    “Statistically, he’s already significantly better than Montana”

    Not in the playoffs.
    ——————————————————-
    No? Montana’s 16-7 record is way better than Brady’s 14-5 huh?

    LOL and Brady still has 8 good years in front of him.

    All the miserable haters can feel comfortable in the fact that they have about 4 more months to continue to sound like idiots saying Brady isn’t the best of all time……after his 3rd MVP and 4th superbowl they won’t even have their miserable moronic friends to support them in the argument.

  53. mrconnors says: Sep 24, 2011 4:49 PM

    “rightthereisay”, you say that Brady beat your team in the playoffs because of spygate, and I’ll ask, which team was yours? Also, show me where he ever dominated teams like he has been doing since 2007, after the “big advantage” was taken away.

    The Raiders in the snowstorm, where the Patriots kicked 3 FG’s and Brady only put up decent numbers because he threw it 60 times?

    The Steelers, where he didn’t play half the game and the Patriots offense put up about 250 total yards of offense and they only won because of two special teams TD’s?

    The Rams, where he threw for a whopping 140 yards, and only got that many because the Rams played prevent defense on the final drive. The Patriots scored a grand total of three offensive touchdowns in the 2001 playoff run, you know, with all those magical defensive signals.

    The Titans, where they scored 17 points?

    The Colts, where I believe Ty Law picked off Peyton Manning about 500 times or so?

    The Panthers, who were caught taking steroids before the game? Brady finally put up good numbers as the game became a shootout. Whoop dee do.

    The Colts, where the Patriots put up 20 points and had two long grind it out drives in the second half and Manning puked on his shoes again?

    The Steelers, okay, they put up 41, but again, Brady’s numbers weren’t off the charts, and it’s not like Brady hasn’t had success against them since, 399 yards and 4 TD’s in 2007, 350 yards and 4 TD’s in 2010. Brady crushing the Steelers is routine nowadays.

    The Eagles, where the Patriots offense sputtered and had like 7 three-and-outs, while the defense bailed them out with 4 turnovers?

    The Patriots were caught taping defensive signals. They deserved to get punished. But in no game that led to a SB did they ever crush teams like they have since 2007, after they got busted. Where is the big advantage?

  54. sundog05 says: Sep 24, 2011 4:56 PM

    I hate Brady but if Captain Checkdown can win a 4th SB, he will be in the discussion as the best ever.

  55. mistrezzrachael says: Sep 24, 2011 4:59 PM

    righthereisay says:
    Sep 24, 2011 10:57 AM
    He won Super Bowls while cheating. Had they not cheated, they may not have one. Nobody can deny that. He beat my team in the playoffs, and it was proven that they cheated that game.

    I hope he gets injured immediately and is unable to ever play again

    SERIOUSLY…You are one sick , demented piece of garbage. Please…get out of here and go back to your sheep….You are a pitiful parasite.

  56. herlies says: Sep 24, 2011 4:59 PM

    “No? Montana’s 16-7 record is way better than Brady’s 14-5 huh?”

    Once again, statistically, Brady is not significantly better than Montana in the playoffs. You mention team W-L records, but the comparison goes much deeper when comparing 2 players at the same position.

    Montana had a better comp percentage, threw for more yards per game, had a better QB rating and threw 15 more TDs while playing only 4 more games.

    On Super Bowl sunday? It’s not even close.

    Montana was unbelievable in his Super Bowls while Brady was pretty much just good enough to win. (when he did win)

  57. habsman says: Sep 24, 2011 5:18 PM

    Wow, sure are a lot of Pat’s haters out there………………………Oh well, better get a beer!

  58. tiffpats4eva says: Sep 24, 2011 5:23 PM

    towniesman says:
    Sep 24, 2011 10:45 AM
    Awesome Tom but its about time we made some kinda run in the playoffs huh ?
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    Like those 4 Super Bowls?

  59. tiffpats4eva says: Sep 24, 2011 5:33 PM

    jpmelon says:
    Sep 24, 2011 1:35 PM
    Call me when Tom Brady starts calling his own plays….until then, Peyton is king.

    You want proof of which QB is more important? OK.

    Brady gets a season ending injury game 1; the Patriots go 11-5 for the season.

    Peyton misses the season; the Colts are the front-runners for the Andrew Luck Derby.
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    Should Brady be penalized because Belichick is a better coach than Caldwell?

  60. hairpie says: Sep 24, 2011 5:37 PM

    I keep asking this from the whining haters, but how exactly is taping something in plain view of 70,000 people “cheating?” whats the advantage, especially if it isnt used in game? How many time do i have to ask for an explanation?

  61. Soulman45 says: Sep 24, 2011 5:51 PM

    Brady is a Michigan Man they do great things.

  62. freewayjim says: Sep 24, 2011 5:57 PM

    Thank you grogansheroes, I’ve been a Pats fan since 1973 and remember that playoff game well.

    The call was a roughing the passer call on Ray Hamilton on 4th down that gave Oakland 1st & goal at the one where Stabler snuck it in with 15 seconds left for the winning TD, 24-21 Raiders.

    I feel no guilt over the tuck rule game, even though I admit it was a bad call, we were owed that from 1976 IMO.

    The whole Tom Brady story is just wonderful and there is more to come. TB is firmly entrenched on the Boston Mt. Rushmore with Bobby Orr, ted Williams and Larry Bird.

  63. freewayjim says: Sep 24, 2011 6:04 PM

    Tom Brady is just better, a lot better than your QB, deal with it!

  64. rexryanstoecheese says: Sep 24, 2011 6:40 PM

    dolphandan says:
    Sep 24, 2011 1:33 PM
    He has benefited from inside information that NO OTHER QB in the history of football has had access to. He and his P.O.S coach have placed a stain on the NFL that can never be removed.

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    and u know this because you have intimate, detailed, inventoried down to the month, day minute and kilobyte of all the information EVERY NFL team has ever acquired while they were ALSO taping other teams signals as much as NE was? Right?

    because that is the ONLY possible way you would know what you’ve stated so haphazardly above.
    and by the way, in case you missed out on many well known facts – which its obvious you have- all teams were taping other teams signals.

    Only, much like the game of football over the last decade, the Pats were better at it than everyone else. Your naivete is astounding and a stain on PFT

  65. righthereisay says: Sep 24, 2011 6:56 PM

    8man says:

    How does it feel? Well, it’s the Internet. I don’t care. Why would I?

  66. barneysbullet says: Sep 24, 2011 7:09 PM

    Brady wins because he has a TEAM around him – Manning wins because he’s…Manning (which makes #18 the better QB, end of story)

  67. richm2256 says: Sep 24, 2011 7:27 PM

    dolphandan says:
    I guess you think it was ok for them to video tape the pre game walk thru before the super bowl too.

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    You’ve supposedly got a brain, right?

    Use it to go to WIKIPEDIA, and search “Spygate”. Read the links about Matt Walsh, Sen. Spector,the Boston Herald, Roger Goodell and the Super Bowl walk-through.

    What you’ll find is that Matt Walsh insinuated to John Tomase of the Boston Herald that he taped the Ram’s Super Bowl walk-through, and had a copy of it.

    Tomase never saw the copy, realized he had just a couple of days to run with it, and sold this pack of lies to his editor.

    When the story broke, everyone wanted Walsh to produce a copy of the tape. He couldn’t do that, BECAUSE HE LIED!!!! There WAS NO tape. He was pissed because Scott Pioli fired him after catching Walsh recording a conversation between the two of them, and Walsh wanted revenge. It’s public record, dummy.

    Kraft threatened to sue Waslh’s a$$, and the Herald too. The Herald $hit all over themselves because they ran a story they had no proof on. Walsh $hit all over himself back-tracking, because he got caught in a lie and was going to get sued.

    Roger Goodell gave Walsh full immunity for testifying and producing copies of any video tapes he had. Walsh told the press that he admitted to Goodell there WAS NO taping, that he never told the Herald there was. He claims to this day that he wasn’t the Herald’s source, even though they have said that he IS.

    Bottom line: when Matt Walsh had to back up his accusation, he couldn’t, and he publicly said there WAS NO WALK-THROUGH TAPING.

    PERIOD.

    But morons like you don’t bother with the facts, do you?

  68. derekjetersmansion says: Sep 24, 2011 8:12 PM

    Without the Tuck Rule, none of this happens.

  69. hairpie says: Sep 24, 2011 8:23 PM

    richm2256, you also forgot to mention the pressure ESPN put on Tomase and the Herald b/c they were going public with it regardless. they just needed to further the agenda against the Pats. The league also forced the entire Pats coaching staff to attent a meeting about the the day before the SB. That pretty much sewed that up for the Giants.

    Its hysterical seeing a dolphin fan talk about anything unethical since they would have won nothing if Schula wasnt head of the competition committee all those years and they didnt purchase a third party tape of Brady’s cadences and audibles in 06?? Just a despicable organization from the top down, just like ESPN.

  70. patsfiend says: Sep 24, 2011 8:38 PM

    @richm2256

    Amen, brother!! LETS GO PATS!

  71. childressrulz says: Sep 24, 2011 10:04 PM

    WOW! A decade! He will be done pretty soon. Thats to bad for Patriot fans.

  72. dolphandan says: Sep 25, 2011 12:17 PM

    Wikipedia ?? That’s your source ? LMAO was probably written by Billicheat himself. Enjoy posting on all you different accounts richm2256. You may want to change up your style though when you switch names.

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    Know what I mean ?

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