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Vikings won’t change quarterbacks

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The Vikings have reached 0-3 in the most nauseating way possible.

They haven’t necessarily looked truly awful, but they have found creative ways to cough up big leads for three straight weeks.  They have a lot of problems, most of them on offense.

But that doesn’t mean Leslie Frazier is considering a quarterback change.

“I don’t think our quarterback position is our problem right now,” Frazier said via Tom Pelissero of espn1500.com. “We’re not thinking about anything at the quarterback position.”

More importantly, there isn’t a solution on the roster.  There’s absolutely no reason to think Christian Ponder or Joe Webb would improve things.

If Ponder was starting, the Vikings probably wouldn’t have any big leads to lose.

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  1. trbowman says: Sep 25, 2011 9:47 PM

    Ponder didn’t even beat out Joe Webb. He’s only the number two quarterback because of his first round status.

    Ponder was a massive reach and hasn’t done anything to prove naysayers like me wrong. The long term starter for the Vikes isn’t on the roster, imo.

  2. kgap says: Sep 25, 2011 9:48 PM

    I would rather see if Ponder has any legitamite NFL potential… considering the the Vikes will go 2-14 at best, and have a real chance of getting to draft Andrew Luck, best see if he can play, rather than make us suffer with McNabb all year

  3. jimmysee says: Sep 25, 2011 9:50 PM

    This is an all-team problem. Changing QBs is *not* going to make any difference!

  4. threed61 says: Sep 25, 2011 9:50 PM

    On the other hand, they might as well see what Ponder can do before they draft Luck.

  5. jigwig13 says: Sep 25, 2011 9:52 PM

    I don’t think the offense can blow leads two weeks in a row…but I did see harvin on the sideline on 3rd down in the 4th with a couple mins left..I thought that was pretty odd..maybe something should change there not qb not right now anyway

  6. bdawk20 says: Sep 25, 2011 9:53 PM

    McNabb once again made errant 2nd and 3rd down throws during the 2 minute drill in the 4th. The Vikings had to settle for a FG…

  7. Mr. Wright 212 says: Sep 25, 2011 9:53 PM

    It can’t just be Don. They keep blowing leads. That’s on Frazier.

  8. tom-a-hawk says: Sep 25, 2011 9:54 PM

    if Ponder was starting, at least they’d be playing a QB that will actually be on their roster next season.

  9. gallaghedj311 says: Sep 25, 2011 9:55 PM

    Were all smiling here in Philadelphia. Except those idiots who wanted to see Donavan Mcnabb stay in Philly and Andy Reid go. I haven’t heard from those idiots in 2-3 years.

  10. doowix says: Sep 25, 2011 9:58 PM

    The Vikings have ZERO chance of making the playoffs this year. Might as well start Ponder and get him some valuable experience. He should be their starting QB next season so why not get his feet wet now?

  11. lbpackfan says: Sep 25, 2011 9:59 PM

    They might soon change their home though…

  12. baxman89 says: Sep 25, 2011 10:02 PM

    Yeah? The rest of the NFL is smiling at Philly and they’re quarterback play as of late.

  13. zaggs says: Sep 25, 2011 10:02 PM

    “There’s absolutely no reason to think Christian Ponder or Joe Webb would improve things.”

    And there is reason to believe they can turn it around with McNabb? McNabb has about as much yardage through 3 games as Cam Newton has had in 1. Blaine gabbert has thrown half as many touchdown passes as McNabb while playing in 2 less games. Or a better question would be, could Ponder (as he is a similar QB) make things any worse?

  14. canadianvikingfaniii says: Sep 25, 2011 10:02 PM

    “I don’t think our quarterback position is our problem right now,” Frazier said

    Ya it is one of the problems.. The fact the offence cannot stay on the field in the 2nd half does nothing good to the defence which performs well in the first half. When you are fielding your defence constantly they are going to get tired and going to give up points.

    The worse part of the whole situation is the offensive playcalling, then McNabb’s throwing. The fact Muskrat is using Jim Kleinsasser as a receiver when he is not is just plain stupid. They have three receiving tight ends in Shancoe, Rudolph and Reisner they used in the game. Sure no one expects that you will use Jimmy in the pass game, but he doesn’t have the hands or speed.

    Then when up 20-0 they stop running Adrian Peterson and he only totals 17 carries, 5 second half. There is something wrong there… Not to mention it took a Media barrage to inform Muskrat that Percy Harvin should be on the field more.

  15. vikefan says: Sep 25, 2011 10:03 PM

    yeah……if the qb isnt the problem, the problem is farther north as in above the qb like oc or head coach

    you DONT let #28 call a 4th down play and show u up

    you dont let the d line get 5 sacks and yet let the LB’s not be able to cover a single receiver all 2nd half again

    you FORCE playcalling of pass plays to over 20 yards once in a while to stretch a defense

    and hotorcious inopportune penalties again and again

    you are right, its NOT all bout the qb even though he did not do you any favors in second half again, time to look in mirror and actually wonder if 1) YOU are a head coach 2) you have a good enuff staff to be winners, and 3) you have enuff talent on your roster to be winners

    Rudolph looked lost on a few plays, your runnng back took away your coaching duties, and your OC doesn’t have a succesful pass play over 13 yards, you have ALOT of work to do as head coach to keep your job.

  16. vahawker says: Sep 25, 2011 10:05 PM

    Let McNabb play the first half of games and put Webb or Ponder in for the second half.

  17. vikefan says: Sep 25, 2011 10:08 PM

    oh…..and this just in, GODdell is biased, effective immediately starting next week, all games will only be 30 min long with no halftime!!!

  18. blackqbwhiterb says: Sep 25, 2011 10:08 PM

    McNabb may not be your only problem, but I’m sure glad he ain’t one of my only problems any more!!

  19. deconjonesbitchslap says: Sep 25, 2011 10:16 PM

    year after year, this team always seems to top it’s ability to lose in new, embarrassing ways, even when you think they’ve hit rock bottom. every week, they just find a way to FAIL. they are a failure of a franchise.

    they’ve only just begun too. they will go 0-16. what’s funny is they aren’t a terrible team. they have an incredible amount of talent! they just don’t know how to WIN. they only know how to lose, and FAIL.

  20. vikesfansteve says: Sep 25, 2011 10:16 PM

    A lot of the second half meltdowns have to do with the teams conditioning. Chunky isn’t just a soup.

  21. mineallmine001 says: Sep 25, 2011 10:16 PM

    The vikings organization comes from a long line of choke artists and drag queens.

  22. heysharpshooter says: Sep 25, 2011 10:17 PM

    If Minnesota is smart, they will keep Ponder on the bench, let Donovan take the lumps on the way out the door. Prepare for next season and build the team for Ponder to take over next season.

  23. textexington says: Sep 25, 2011 10:20 PM

    3-0>0-3. Go Pack Go!!!

  24. kgap says: Sep 25, 2011 10:22 PM

    Where is the Killer Instinct on this team? there is none, and McNabb is way too laid back to have one (probably cuz he know’s he is getting paid and playing like garbage)…. I don’t know if Ponder has it, but it would be nice to see if he does…. I’m sensing a huge roster purge this next offseason in order to get more cap space and rid us of (vikings suck!!!(my girlfriend hacked my keyboard))players undeserving of the roster spot that we give them.

  25. cburmester85 says: Sep 25, 2011 10:22 PM

    It always surprises me how people seemed so shocked to realize that Donovan McNabb isn’t very good.

  26. The Prophet says: Sep 25, 2011 10:23 PM

    Ponder showed a lot of promise in the preseason, and would definitely increase the Vikings chances of winning. The reason is McNabb adds absolutely nothing, and Ponder would add something.

    However, I have no problem letting McNabb stink it up more while the rest of the team develops and the Vikings climb their way up the draft chart, so when Ponder is starter from week 1 next season, we might have a top 10 draft pick on the field with him and then we make the playoffs.

  27. pack13queens0 says: Sep 25, 2011 10:29 PM

    I think they should start Ponder and see how the future of the Los Angeles Vikings looks.

  28. christhefish says: Sep 25, 2011 10:30 PM

    Yeah, so, fortunately for you Viking fans, FRAZIER is not the owner of that team, so change will be coming very soon! PONDER will play next week at K.C. He may not start, but he will be playing! Also, if FRAZIER doesn’t start to get things going, MIKE SINGLETARY will be bumped up to lead the team as interim Head Coach.

  29. greatminnesotasportsmind says: Sep 25, 2011 10:31 PM

    Some of you are idiots!! Ponder has done more with less than Joe Webb did in training camp/pre season. The only reason Webb was relevant was because the Vikings beat the Eagles last year on national TV on a Tuesday. Webb has thrown just as many TD passes as Ponder has…0.

    As far as a reach, Ponder was labeled the most ready QB of the class. See what Newton did the first 2 weeks? Just sayin’. Vikings wanted a QB and got one. Had they traded back to whatever there was no guarantee that Ponder would even be there. Bills and Redskins all wanted QBs off the top of my head.

    Besides, the way we are going, Ponder will be our QB in 2012, and in 2013, it will be Andy Luck…

  30. bigslizzle4twizzle says: Sep 25, 2011 10:34 PM

    Being a big Syracuse fan and rooting for McNabb his whole career its sad to see how fast things went downhill for him. He had a good career. Lots of NFC Championship games and took the eagles to the big game but couldnt win.

  31. fargovikesfan says: Sep 25, 2011 10:37 PM

    cburmester85 says:Sep 25, 2011 10:22 PM

    It always surprises me how people seemed so shocked to realize that Donovan McNabb isn’t very good.
    ——————————————————–

    There are plenty of us Vikings fans that KNEW McNabb was washed up. We need shorter WR’s so that they can catch the balls that McNabb throws at their ankles. I’m losing faith in Frazier and Musgrave in a quick hurry… this is pathetic.

  32. blackandblue123 says: Sep 25, 2011 10:48 PM

    Been a viks fan for a long time and that won’t change…..but watching Mcnobb is truly painful.
    Put a fork in him he’s done!!!!

  33. VikesPrincess (Lisa) says: Sep 25, 2011 10:55 PM

    Leslie Frazier needs to pull his head out and bench McNabb. He should be put on notice by the Wilfs that his job is on the line and see if that gives him the intestinal fortitude needed to do this job.

  34. tjacks7 says: Sep 25, 2011 10:57 PM

    I’m starting to hate this coaching staff more than the last one. Why not use Percy Harvin? Why continuously stop using peterson in the 2nd half? Why stick with McNabb? Why hasn’t berrian been cut? How do you continue to blow leads in the second half.

    As for McNabb, he’s terrible. I honestly don’t think he has the endurance to play an entire game. He will not be around next year. I understand not wanting to throw Ponder in the fire with the terrible coaching staff and pathetic offensive line.. But Joe Webb is the best option right now. He can make plays with his feet when things break down (ie. most plays). And I’m sure he’s more accurate than underthrow then overthrow McNabb.

  35. zn0rseman says: Sep 25, 2011 11:00 PM

    People… they are not trying to win.

    They are playing for 2012 draft position… nothing more. They play their A Game in the first half, and do what it takes to stay out of the win column in the second.

    Need proof? From the 23, instead of taking the chip-shot (and ultimately game winning) field goal in the 4th quarter today, they went for it on 4th and 1. Instead of running it with the NFL’s best back, AD, they gave it to Gerhart and called a play that ran it right into the teeth of the defense.

  36. phatasswiscofanssux says: Sep 25, 2011 11:05 PM

    Did we really have a shot at making the playoffs with a new qb, off coor, and head coach, even without the lockout we weren’t going to do squat. There is no lottery in the NFL. Lets keep dominating the 1st half and wink wink throwing the 2nd half so we can grab that 1 pick, 5-11 6-10 does nothing except put us in the 10 spot again next year. tanks alot.

  37. christinamer says: Sep 25, 2011 11:09 PM

    Insanity: Doing the same things again and again and expecting different results.

  38. wtfru2 says: Sep 25, 2011 11:32 PM

    The way I look at it, you can start Ponder now and see if he will be an option at QB for the future. If he stinks it up and loses a bunch of games, then they dump him and draft Luck!

  39. davisjosh20 says: Sep 25, 2011 11:36 PM

    I don’t know what games toy were watching, but Ponder out played Webb on every occasion. I’m all for him riding the pine if he is learning. Maybe he is learning. How not to play the quarterback position absolutely surrounded by high caliber weapons.

  40. eagles512 says: Sep 25, 2011 11:37 PM

    Yeah ok, cburmester, he’s just no good. I guess you never saw him play the first 10 years of his career. I guess NFL.com had him as the #3 QB as recently as a couple years ago because he was never any good. I’m not saying he’s anywhere near that now, but people forget he won a ton of games without much talent on offense around him. And until his last year in Philly, he never lost in the first round of the playoffs. Maybe he never won it all, but you have to be pretty good to get far almost every year.

  41. mwcarolina says: Sep 25, 2011 11:37 PM

    considering the the Vikes will go 2-14 at best, and have a real chance of getting to draft Andrew Luck, best see if he can play, rather than make us suffer with McNabb all year
    —————————————————————-
    i love how people think that Ponder was picked in round 3 and is easy to quit on in a year. Giving up on the 12th pick in the 1st round in the NFL Draft after one year is just stupid, it would make Carolina look like a smart franchise. Honestly what the Vikings need is another Rice, a WR to throw to would help and a Jeffery or Blackmon would be huge additions.

  42. MichaelEdits says: Sep 25, 2011 11:37 PM

    I’m a Panther fan, y’all, so I can ask.

    Start Ponder, watch him play like Jimmy Clausen, lose many many games, get the first pick, draft Andrew Luck, see if he’s another Cam Newton?

    Sounds like a plan.

    Or stick with McNabb. Up to you, Coach.

  43. randallcobb says: Sep 25, 2011 11:38 PM

    The Vikings have no deep threat to stretch the field for AP. And, if they did, McNabb couldn’t hit him anyway. Frazier may want to rethink that strategy before McNabb has a job and he doesn’t.

  44. Mr. Wright 212 says: Sep 25, 2011 11:39 PM

    gallaghedj311 says: Sep 25, 2011 9:55 PM

    Were all smiling here in Philadelphia. Except those idiots who wanted to see Donavan Mcnabb stay in Philly and Andy Reid go. I haven’t heard from those idiots in 2-3 years.
    ————-

    WHY??? Vick ain’t no better!

  45. neer music says: Sep 25, 2011 11:43 PM

    vikings went 0-5 on third down in the second half. doesn’t get much less effective than that. a lot of what was lacking lacked at the quarterback position.

  46. upperdecker19 says: Sep 25, 2011 11:49 PM

    FAVRE WATCH????

  47. skolvikesskol says: Sep 25, 2011 11:55 PM

    Dont understand how people can be down the coaches…. Its not about the xs and the os, it about the billys and the joes… Bench mcbadd and trade percy migrane…

  48. realtalkdoitall4rm says: Sep 26, 2011 12:01 AM

    as a life long Lions fan I have seen this before. this is the pre-dawn to a coaching change. bad play calls on offense, player mis-management and all out bad decision making. this goes on the coaches as much as the players. Frazier better make put in Ponder before ownership MAKES him.

  49. paulbrownsrevenge says: Sep 26, 2011 12:03 AM

    It’s pathetic how many teams are tanking to get Luck. No doubt he’s about as sure of a thing as you can get in a QB. I’m glad to see my Browns aren’t mailing it in. I’m sure they will struggle to win 6 0r 7 games, but I’ll take it.

  50. d3murf says: Sep 26, 2011 12:11 AM

    gallaghedj311 says: Sep 25, 2011 9:55 PM

    Were all smiling here in Philadelphia. Except those idiots who wanted to see Donavan Mcnabb stay in Philly and Andy Reid go. I haven’t heard from those idiots in 2-3 years.

    ______________________________________________________________________

    What are you smiling about? Have you won a playoff game without McNabb? And people commenting on this story—how many of you actually watched this game? How is McNabb to blame?

  51. sikoix says: Sep 26, 2011 12:36 AM

    As a fan who has stuck with the team since the days of Darren Nelson choking away playoff games, I have QB down as our #2 problem behind coaching. There were way too many bad throws for a starting QB. Those worm-burner people weren’t joking.

    McNabb really adds nothing to this offense. I have virtually no expectations and wouldn’t mind seeing whether Ponder will surprise or disappoint sooner rather than later.

  52. oldcracker says: Sep 26, 2011 1:10 AM

    There will have to be a draft lottery.

    The Dolphins outplayed my Browns all day, only to lose it in the last 2 minutes.

    Fins had been running right over the D-line and yet when all they needed was a first down for an attempt at a FG, they threw 3 ducks & an interception. The Fins survived and avoided a win.

    How often does a “Luck” come along???

  53. jedimasterbates says: Sep 26, 2011 1:15 AM

    get #4 back, he wasn’t the problem last season. good luck with McRib under center!

  54. jimmylions says: Sep 26, 2011 1:20 AM

    Why isn’t Adrian Peterson getting more touches? In the first half, when you totally schooled us, AP was tearing up the field. Stop handing the ball to AP and the game turns the opposite way. Coincidence? I think not.

    So anyway, thank you to the Vikings coaches for taking AP out of the game for us. It was a huge help. We really appreciate it.

  55. jimmylions says: Sep 26, 2011 1:28 AM

    Also – you guys who believe the Vikings aren’t playing to win … if they lose more than half their games this season, I’m guessing they’ll be playing here in sunny LA next year. As I recall, there’s still no stadium deal out there.

    The Vikings name/colors will probably stay in Minnesota. In LA they’ll be called the Implants – and have pink uniforms with Paris Hilton on the helmet.

    I actually don’t want anything to happen to the old black and blue division … so start putting some pressure on your state government to get a deal finished.

    I’d rather see the Chargers move here. It’s not a bad drive from San Diego, so it won’t hurt their fans too much. And they’ll probably keep their name/colors, so no pink.

  56. staffordsyear says: Sep 26, 2011 1:36 AM

    @znorseman
    wow! what a copout! so… this was the vikings plan from week 1.. to blow 1st half leads on purpose!? to get into good draft position?ive heard some mickey mouse stuff from queens fans but this takes the cake!..has it ever occured to you that maybe YOU JUST SUCK?..go back to your shanty and brew up some more excuses loser.

  57. dstep24 says: Sep 26, 2011 2:08 AM

    Dear Viking faithful,

    So sorry for another tough loss on home turf.

    If I could have donated any of my 8 catch, 109 yard performance today, to help your cause, I would have…but, unfortunately that’s not allowed.

    Give Jenkins a slap on the butt for me.

    Sincerely,

    Sidney

  58. prplpuzzetrz says: Sep 26, 2011 2:46 AM

    There is simply 1 explanation for this whole 3 game debacle! There is a new coaching regime in place and this will certainly take time to gel. The Vikes have been in a position not only to win these first 3 games but dominate. They could use a true #1 receiver to stretch the field but have played well enough in the 1st half to hide the fact. Mcnabb will need to step it up but what I am truly seeing is the opposing coaching staffs are making their 2 nd half adjustments and the Viking coaching staff does Not have an answer. Either they will figure this out sooner than later, or this will be am exceptionally long and painful year for us fans

  59. asublimeday says: Sep 26, 2011 2:56 AM

    Hahaha. The Vikings are somehow managed worse than the Bears. Thank God somebody is.

  60. madmike66 says: Sep 26, 2011 3:34 AM

    As a DC area resident, we got all the Shanny leaks about how McNabb’s conditioning sucked etc. I couldn’t tell you first hand, as you couldn’t pay me to watch a Redskins game, but watch the last three games. In the 2nd half, McNabb is sucking wind and sweating like a Turkish sailor after every play. Not plays he had to scramble either. He’s breathing heavy through his mouth after 5 step drops. It’s embarrassing how out of shape and terribly conditioned he is. I’ve never seen a QB breathing heavily after 5 step drops. He does. Watch the game tape.

  61. truthserum4u says: Sep 26, 2011 4:31 AM

    zn0rseman says:
    Sep 25, 2011 11:00 PM

    People… they are not trying to win.

    They are playing for 2012 draft position… nothing more. They play their A Game in the first half, and do what it takes to stay out of the win column in the second.
    =============================

    No team in the NFL tanks. It’s not in their DNA.

  62. sterlingrodgers says: Sep 26, 2011 4:33 AM

    I never thought I’d feel bad for the Vikings, but I do. They still have some very talented players, but their team seems to be in disarray, after being held hostage the last two seasons by a certain exhibitionist whom I won’t mention…..

  63. phillyrocks says: Sep 26, 2011 5:27 AM

    McNabb isn’t the same McNabb but the Vikings playcalling is crap.

  64. array9 says: Sep 26, 2011 5:51 AM

    Hey gallaghedj311, how’s the “Dream team” working out for you guys in Philly?

    I think you should worry about your team and not McNabb.

  65. pigeonpea says: Sep 26, 2011 7:55 AM

    tjacks7 says:
    I’m starting to hate this coaching staff more than the last one. Why not use Percy Harvin? Why continuously stop using peterson in the 2nd half? Why stick with McNabb? Why hasn’t berrian been cut? How do you continue to blow leads in the second half.

    By not using Harvin, not giving it to Peterson in the 2nd half and hoping a washed-up, overrated QB is somehow going to miracle your asses to the Super Bowl.

    The Queens have a long, storied history of bad decisions and epic fails. Why should anything that has happened this season surprise you in the least?

  66. metzgerf says: Sep 26, 2011 8:02 AM

    In the Vikings’ defense, they shouldn’t have had that big of a lead in the first half. The Lions were completely out of sync, for whatever reason, and it wasn’t all because of the Vikings’ defense. The Vikings probably should have lost this game by 10-14 points. But they’re really not as bad as their 0-3 record states.

  67. skoalbrother says: Sep 26, 2011 8:17 AM

    Donavan is not the man. Rush was right.

  68. fwippel says: Sep 26, 2011 8:21 AM

    While McNabb has looked good in the first half the last two weeks, he has looked mediocre at best in the second half the last two weeks. And too many times, when the game is one the line, McNabb has not made the plays when needed. He hasn’t been great, but he hasn’t performed in the clutch either. He missed a deep pass to Berrian that should have been a touchdown.

    As for Ponder, the fact is that the Vikings reached to get him, and if they keep losing (regardless of how) Ponder’s contract and high draft pick status will mandate that he get playing time. While I don’t blame Frazier for not changing QBs now, the fact is that Bill Musgrave needs to get to the bottom of the second half ineptness of his offense. Viking opponent’s defenses are making the half-time adjustments necessary to shut down this offense. Musgrave needs to come up with an answer NOW. And if McNabb can’t execute in the second half, he needs to pulled. There is no excuse for all the three-and-outs this team has had over the past two weeks.

  69. orangeflh says: Sep 26, 2011 8:28 AM

    Skol Failure!

  70. hank10 says: Sep 26, 2011 8:55 AM

    They’re not changing QBs because they would have to then pay McMartyr more millions in ‘hurt feelings’ compensation (see Eagles and Redskins).

  71. gerryf19 says: Sep 26, 2011 8:59 AM

    If Viking fans think they are getting Luck, they are sadly mistaken. As horrible as the Vikings are, there are worse teams out there than Minnesota. Even as bad as they are playing. They will have a better record than KC and Indy

  72. minnysoda says: Sep 26, 2011 9:11 AM

    Well at least Minnesota fans have the WNBA to fall back on TIME TO BREAK UP THE LYNX
    LOL
    Viking minority owner John B. L. Soule was heard saying after the game “We must go west, young team, and win a Super Bowl.”

  73. technovike says: Sep 26, 2011 9:55 AM

    McNabb has not proven that he can throw an effective deep ball (missed Berrian, though to be fair he would have dropped it anyways) or that he can throw an effective slant that actually leads the receiver, instead he throws it to their feet or in the gut.

    Ponder showed at least signs he could do both pretty well in pre-season. With Ponder the downside might be his pocket presence. McNabb is pretty good knowing when to get out of the pocket.

    I say put the rookie in and let him learn, the way practices are since the new cba, the more effective way to get better at these things is in real games.

  74. theytukrjobs says: Sep 26, 2011 10:14 AM

    It is too early to pull McNabb. But I do think he is part of the problem. For the most part he’s making good decisions and reads, but he is errant on too many passes to function as a QB.

    Frazier does however need to learn the NFL game and start making better calls. Going for it on 4th and 1 from the 15 was a terrible call in that situation and likely cost the team the game. Even if you get the yardage, you still are likely settling for a field goal. They weren’t close enough to the endzone or far enough (long field goal) to mathmatically justify the move in that situation.

    They also got away from Peterson and the heavy sets that worked so well in the first half. And with a 20 point lead “going heavy” is a strategy that actually makes MORE sense than it did when they used it to build a lead.

    These types of things are just inexcusable. Chilly had bad clock management but he at least understood most of the fundamental basics of when you go for it and when to continue to press the running game if it is hot.

    Peterson was stuffed in the second half on his limited carries but they were running out of passing formations, whereas in the first half they were running out of very heavy sets.

    Tough to be a fan of this team right now because it seems like the coaches are going away from what is working in 3 games straight now. Are they outhinking themselves? I mean we dogged Chilly for being too predictable but there are times when you are SUPPOSED to be predictable and Frazier doesn’t seem to understand this.

  75. jessethegreat says: Sep 26, 2011 10:25 AM

    With McNabb, they will have to wait until he gets injured so they don’t have to compensate his hurt feelings by benching him.

  76. pigskinswag says: Sep 26, 2011 11:27 AM

    The Vikings need to consider a COACHING change.

  77. ridle9 says: Sep 26, 2011 11:29 AM

    If you are blowing halftime leads…that falls on coaching…I think McNabb is highly overrated but Frazier is to blame here.

  78. johnsticle says: Sep 26, 2011 1:27 PM

    jigwig13 says: Sep 25, 2011 9:52 PM

    I don’t think the offense can blow leads two weeks in a row…but I did see harvin on the sideline on 3rd down in the 4th with a couple mins left..I thought that was pretty odd..maybe something should change there not qb not right now anyway
    ____________________________________

    Harvin was sick… we were told on Friday (I think) that Harvin’s playing time would be limited…

  79. thirdandgoal says: Sep 26, 2011 6:42 PM

    The old “vote of confidence”, usually signals the exact opposite. We can only hope…

  80. supersuckers3 says: Sep 26, 2011 7:00 PM

    zn0rseman says:
    Sep 25, 2011 11:00 PM
    People… they are not trying to win.

    They are playing for 2012 draft position… nothing more. They play their A Game in the first half, and do what it takes to stay out of the win column in the second.

    Need proof? From the 23, instead of taking the chip-shot (and ultimately game winning) field goal in the 4th quarter today, they went for it on 4th and 1. Instead of running it with the NFL’s best back, AD, they gave it to Gerhart and called a play that ran it right into the teeth of the defense.
    ——————–

    Only a loser in life would think that those professionals would toss a game on purpose. I’ve said it before and I’ll keep on saying it. Anyone who believes that this occurs or should occur is a loser. Period. Not just in sports fanhood but in life. How this even enters one’s mind as an option confuses this crap out of me. If you are 0 and 15 you play to win. Life throws everyone wrinkles and we all dont end up exactly where we want to be but you, sir, are a loser.

  81. greatminnesotasportsmind says: Sep 26, 2011 7:07 PM

    I miss Brett

  82. boverton7 says: Mar 21, 2012 11:07 PM

    Why dont the vikings just trade Ponder for like Matt Flynn or Tim Tebow. They really need a new Quarterback like Tebow they should of tookin Peyton Manning. The do need a better QB!!!!!!!!!

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