Comments on: ESPN analysts at odds on Vick hits

By: adamb103

adamb103 — Wed, 28 Sep 2011 16:31:49 +0000

I’m pretty sure it is part of Vick’s job to know what other teams are doing. When he watches film, do you think its only Philly’s O against their own D in practice? I’m pretty sure that his job almost every day entails watching film of defenses around the league and that necessarily includes those defenses hitting QBs and he can probably see yellow flags when they’re thrown. Just sayin…

By: CKL

CKL — Wed, 28 Sep 2011 16:05:33 +0000

stixzidinia says: Sep 27, 2011 2:55 AM

“It’s not just Ryan. Last week, Tom Brady’s knee was nearly caved in by Chargers defensive lineman Antonio Garay. Ben Roethlisberger took a pair of low hits, with only one flag thrown.”

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Yeah, with the flag coming on the Brady hit.
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I know you hate the Pats and will and do say anything to try to make them look bad but lying is going too far. BEN got one flag, Brady took 2 horrible below the knee hits and got ZERO flags. Guess you didn’t watch EITHER game…Steelers fan.

By: richie500

richie500 — Tue, 27 Sep 2011 17:46:23 +0000

ESPN brand sucks.
Is it sports, or music videos or movie trailers, who knows anymore?

By: grilledjesus

grilledjesus — Tue, 27 Sep 2011 14:29:46 +0000

Perhaps Tommy Jackson is just trying his old “psychological game” on the white QBs like he did last year with Jets?

By: pleasantsurpriselefty

pleasantsurpriselefty — Tue, 27 Sep 2011 12:51:21 +0000

That crew on that desk is the most racially biased unit ever assembled! Leader: Tom Jackson. Does anybody believe the “video” showing two white QBs getting calls was a coincidence? Last year when Randy Moss was making a fool of himself and destroying his career, Chris Carter lost a lot of street cred by vigorously defending his infantile actions. This reverse racism is so blatant now they aren’t even trying to hide it.

Poor Boomer doesn’t know what to do so he just moves on as fast as he can. They really need to get rid of Jackson.

By: TheDPR

TheDPR — Tue, 27 Sep 2011 12:03:04 +0000

What teal379 said.

Vick can’t read a defense and holds the ball too long. The guys who play a long time without getting hurt are guys who get rid of the football on time or if they know they’re about to get hit are smart enough to get down to minimize the impact.

Vick doesn’t even know how to slide when running.

How stupid does a guy have to be to not be able to master the slide?

Vick is fast, a good runner in the open field, and has a pretty good arm for a guy his size. That’s all he has going for him. An elite QB needs more. Vick lacks the on (and off) field intelligence and quarterbacking instincts necessary to ever become one of the top QBs in the league.

By: bigfranky75

bigfranky75 — Tue, 27 Sep 2011 11:53:14 +0000

The Mike Vick of old…… the Dog Killer has returned. This doesn’t bold well for the “Dream Team” LOL! what a joke… they’ll be lucky to finish 9-7.

Don’t worry Philly… there’s always next year…

By: sromgrom

sromgrom — Tue, 27 Sep 2011 11:34:19 +0000

There’s also a concept known as “pre-reads” for the defense…

Maybe if Vick dedicated himself to becoming more of a student of the game, and actually could read a defense properly before snapping the ball, he’s have less to worry about in getting hit…. A little something called “quick release”… For the moment, Ryan Fitzpatrick seems to understand this same concept..it’s a great thing for quarterbacks who don’t wanna force their O-line to have to hold on for dear life….

Oh but wait, I must be racist since I’m slamming the mechanics of a black quarterback….. NOT!!! But I am slamming the mechanics of a nutjob who slaughtered thousands of dogs…all for a hobby and extra $$$$$….

By: sromgrom

sromgrom — Tue, 27 Sep 2011 11:29:38 +0000

Reverse racism at its best…

But really, the bottom-line here is how can a man who slaughtered and made $$$$ off of hundreds of thousands of dogs have any room to complain??

He should still be sitting in a jail cell.. just because he served his 2 years doesn’t mean the powers that be got it right… He’s a sick sick dude, look right at his eyes during a press conference, you can tell he’s still one sketchy son of a gun.

In terms of him getting hit more, my dad used to offer this quote when I’d cause grief on myself “Whose fault is that??”…–Stop running around every play Mike!!! You make life worse for your offensive line in the end.

By: nflofficeadmin

nflofficeadmin — Tue, 27 Sep 2011 11:12:40 +0000

Fine piece of reporting on reporters.

By: jdreed68

jdreed68 — Tue, 27 Sep 2011 11:05:08 +0000

They are right in saying that Vick isnt the only QB that takes late hits. There are a select few that the Refs let defenses beat up on. Vick, Roethlessburger, Cutler to name a few. However, I think Vick is right to complain about the hits he takes. Granted, he plays a different style game then Brady, Rogers, and Manning but the calls should be the same, Scrambling QB or Not. Once the ball is out, There should be NO Reason to knock the QB to the ground. This has happened to Vick several times in the first three games and he has a right to be upset. With that said…Andy, Fix your O-Line!

By: abr173rd

abr173rd — Tue, 27 Sep 2011 11:03:56 +0000

Whiny Vick, Congrats Philly…. There have been late hits on almost every big name QB over the last 3 weeks that went without being penalized… The difference -the big name QB’s don’t complain to the press about it!

By: ravenfan820

ravenfan820 — Tue, 27 Sep 2011 11:02:06 +0000

it seemed way over the top to me that me that the guys in Bristol told Vick not to say anymore, that they would fight this fight for him….REALLY….Tommy, Key….you should be carrying the fight….By all means say what you want, but to take it to the next level of carrying the fight for Vick????

By: torturedraiderfan

torturedraiderfan — Tue, 27 Sep 2011 10:58:03 +0000

Tom Jackson is a jacka$$. Why is he still on the air? Message to Vick: If you wants to get more flags, “STAY IN THE POCKET AND STOP RUNNING YOU MORON.”

By: akulabug

akulabug — Tue, 27 Sep 2011 10:41:00 +0000

My dog told me that he thinks Vick can’t get hit enough…legal or otherwise. Cry me a river scum bag.

By: truthserum4u

truthserum4u — Tue, 27 Sep 2011 07:40:40 +0000

malblack says:
Sep 26, 2011 9:54 PM

The Canty hit should have been flagged. Vick had already released the ball, Canty took another step, led with his helmet, and knocked Vick over.

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Canty is allowed to take that step (you can’t stop dead in your tracks just because the ball is out of the QBs hand) and still be within the legal rules of contact with a QB. He lead with his helmet but it wasn’t a spear, didn’t make contact with Vick’s helmet nor his knee and below. The analysts I’ve seen said the hit was fine.

By: savannahrose44

savannahrose44 — Tue, 27 Sep 2011 07:39:29 +0000

PFT followers at odds as to whether or not this is a headline…

By: stixzidinia

stixzidinia — Tue, 27 Sep 2011 06:55:52 +0000

“It’s not just Ryan. Last week, Tom Brady’s knee was nearly caved in by Chargers defensive lineman Antonio Garay. Ben Roethlisberger took a pair of low hits, with only one flag thrown.”

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Yeah, with the flag coming on the Brady hit. Vick is absolutely right. And to use only this year’s calls is being intentionally dishonest. Try going back 5 years and do the math. Fans have been calling out these inconsistencies for a long time. Only now is it getting called out. Guys like Ben and everyone else not named Manning or Brady have been getting murdered with no calls and no fines. FACT.

And nobody cares what Trent Dilfer (Colin Cohurd’s butt buddy) thinks. Jamarcus Russell could’ve won a SB in Baltimore with that defense.

By: Mr. Wright 212

Mr. Wright 212 — Tue, 27 Sep 2011 05:54:45 +0000

And NO COMMENT on Fokou actually being the one who was FAKING yesterday.

Imbecile.

By: Mr. Wright 212

Mr. Wright 212 — Tue, 27 Sep 2011 05:54:15 +0000

ninjapleazee says: Sep 26, 2011 9:36 PM

In other news.. Giants still faking injuries…. After a McCoy 20 yard rush.. a Giants player falls to the ground with a… “cramp”
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Why would Ross fake, when he was singlehandedly taking the game away from the IGGLES?

The way his leg flew on that tackle, I’m surprised he didn’t tear a ligament. I’ve seen legs whip like that and have torn ACLs.

By: Mr. Wright 212

Mr. Wright 212 — Tue, 27 Sep 2011 05:50:21 +0000

habsman says: Sep 26, 2011 8:33 PM

When was the last time Tom Jackson was right about anything?
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YESTERDAY. In picking the Giants to beat the Iggles.

But otherwise, you’re right. ALMOST NEVER.

By: east96st

east96st — Tue, 27 Sep 2011 05:41:54 +0000

How come no post on ESPN on ESPN crime? Sportscenter showed that Vick got MORE flags than other NFC East QB the last two years. Now where you are going to go with this story? Are you going to admit what we all knew, outside of Philly, that’s this is nothing but fiction and sour grapes of a $100 million QB that couldn’t get the job done two weeks in a row? Where’s the legitimate reporting?

By: johnnyutah06

johnnyutah06 — Tue, 27 Sep 2011 05:31:23 +0000

I hate espn lately. the fact that race is brought up everyday is just plain disgusting by all of them. what they dint understand is that fans and coaches cheer for their players and teams. no one roots fir a guy because if his race. I really hope espn starts getting called out for this because Ive had it with all of their shows. Tom Jackson and Keyshawn and rob Parker jemell hill Broussard and etc need to be terminated for making racial comments

By: howley1

howley1 — Tue, 27 Sep 2011 05:29:41 +0000

So why did a BRUISED hand sideline Vick?

By: tvell215

tvell215 — Tue, 27 Sep 2011 05:29:19 +0000

Trent Dilfer is an idiot. He’s not even understanding what vick is saying. Vick is not saying that he is the only one not getting the calls he is just saying that he doesn’t get the calls that should be flags. Some plays are gonna be missed like Ryan and roethlisberger but on a consistent basis Vick does not get calls. And Jenkins was fined for the Ryan hit and there was flag on a roethlisberger play. But no fines or flags for Vick hits. The league will never protect him for who he is and his style of play. It’s a shame and Vick is entitled to his opinion. Vick is Just looking for the protection he deserves from the league because right now NFL defenders are freely taking shots at him bc theyre not afraid of repercussions and these unnecessary hits only add to his injuries.

By: petthefurrywall

petthefurrywall — Tue, 27 Sep 2011 05:27:51 +0000

The first comment on this article sums it all up.
I like Dilfer on ESPN. “His players hate him” ~ Tom Jackson….

By: johnnyutah06

johnnyutah06 — Tue, 27 Sep 2011 05:23:40 +0000

I normally don’t like Dilfer but good for you Dilfer I’m proud of ya man. What is up with Tom Jackson lately? I used to love listening to him, but ever since Keyshawn got there he seems a lot different. I’m starting to really dislike ESPN lately. Even the stews today on first take said that Vick gets more calls the Brady manning and brees combined, but of course they wont talk abt that.

By: trbowman

trbowman — Tue, 27 Sep 2011 05:12:17 +0000

Mike Vick’s official PR network is split on him? Really?

By: gundog06

gundog06 — Tue, 27 Sep 2011 05:05:42 +0000

Problem is the punishment does not fit the crime for taking cheap shots at any QB. Any smart D coordinator encourages it. 15 yards is a small price to pay if you rattle a QB for the next few series or even get him out of the game. Won’t change until the NFL gets serious about suspensions for cheap shots.

By: eagles512

eagles512 — Tue, 27 Sep 2011 04:38:10 +0000

Not the biggest Vick fan but he is obviously right on this. People pick 1-2 plays of other QBs to prove a point. Yet Vick is getting hit that way 4-5 times a week, not once a month.