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John Fox is still behind Kyle Orton

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The Broncos lost on Sunday so you could have probably guessed that John Fox was going to get a question about his quarterbacks on Monday.

Fox did get that question and he answered it the same way that he has answered it all season long. Per Lindsay Jones of the Denver Post, he expressed confidence in Kyle Orton and gave no signal that the team is contemplating a change under center.

“Right now, in our opinion, Kyle gives us the best chance to win.”

Fox went on to say that he couldn’t predict the future so he wasn’t going to answer any questions about what might make him change his mind about what quarterback gives the team the best chance to win. Orton was 24-of-39 for 173 yards and two touchdowns in the 17-14 loss to the Titans. He also threw two picks, one on a deep ball to Eric Decker and another on a tipped ball on third-and-11 in the fourth quarter to end the final Broncos drive inside Tennessee territory.

Despite those picks, it is hard to pin the loss entirely on Orton’s shoulders. The team had four plays from the Titans two-yard-line early in the fourth quarter, ran Willis McGahee on the last three of them and couldn’t punch the ball in to put themselves up 21-10. Later in the fourth, the Broncos defense allowed the Titans to go 95 yards for the go-ahead touchdown, including a 58-yard pass play to tight end Craig Stevens. The defense gave up 311 passing yards overall, a big reason why the Titans were able to come back and win the game down the stretch.

Orton needs to be better, without a doubt, but it is hard to make a convincing argument that Tim Tebow would have won this game for the team. We know plenty of Broncos fans feel differently, but the loss was about a lot more than just the play of Orton.

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38 Responses to “John Fox is still behind Kyle Orton”
  1. jimbobobjr says: Sep 26, 2011 4:51 PM

    Fox is absolutely right about Orton giving them the best chance to win. He didn’t say Orton was a good QB. Maybe he should put Tebow in to fail so the fans will finally shut up about him. Funny how the backup QB can easily be the most popular player on a team sometimes. Guess what? He’s the 3rd string for a reason.

  2. fergenator says: Sep 26, 2011 4:57 PM

    Right now…in my opinion, John Fox does not give us the best chance to win. Do I still like the bronco’s? I can’t predict the future so I’m not going to answer that question!!!!!

  3. minnesconsin says: Sep 26, 2011 5:06 PM

    if Fox wants to shut Broncos fans up about Tebow, let him play at Lambeau next weekend. That should do the trick.

  4. benh999 says: Sep 26, 2011 5:09 PM

    Tebow is a great developmental prospect, but if Denver fans think the team would win more games with him starting, then the Colorado air must be especially thin this year.

  5. favreforever says: Sep 26, 2011 5:11 PM

    “Dr. Lindsey Jones, I presume?”, said Fox when he was finally located, following behind the man chosen to lead the Broncos out of the wilderness.

  6. sterilizecromartie says: Sep 26, 2011 5:12 PM

    “Orton needs to be better, without a doubt, but it is hard to make a convincing argument that Tim Tebow would have won this game for the team.”
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    Shocker. Another assumption about what Tebow can or can’t do without any hard evidence.

    So, this makes Orton 6-21 in his last 27 games I believe. Yes, he definitely gives them the best chance to win. LMAO!

  7. rajbais says: Sep 26, 2011 5:19 PM

    I would be too!!! His weapons are hurt (i.e. Brandon Lloyd and Knowshon Moreno), plus McGahee only had 2.4 yards per carry on Sunday!!! That helps no quarterbacks!!!

    Plus, teams lose games … not quarterbacks!!! You can’t win if a ton of your best guys are hurt, but that’s not a great excuse today because of what Green Bay did last year.

  8. medtxpack says: Sep 26, 2011 5:21 PM

    The Pack will help John Fox make a better decision next week.

  9. davebrownspiral says: Sep 26, 2011 5:21 PM

    At best, the Broncos are a 6-10, 7-9 team with Orton at the helm. Why not play Tebow, get him some experience and see what he can do? If he’s beyond awful, then at the very least, you know what you got, and can make a decision about the future. If he plays well, the Broncos are still going 6-10, and you have a quarterback for the future. I mean, in three starts last year, the guy went 1-2 and looked pretty good for a rookie. The guy had a 300 yard passing game against the Raiders if I’m not mistaken, and showed off some of his running skills as well. Let the guy play. Fox and the Broncos are kidding themselves if they think Orton is the answer

  10. sundog05 says: Sep 26, 2011 5:21 PM

    I’ve seen this once proud franchise of mine get completely butchered and destroyed by Josh McDaniels. Very few people (if any) have left an NFL organization in such a disastrous state.

    Orton is the best chance to win what? 5-6 games? Foxball has been a very disappointing and boring brand of ball. I would rather see Tebow, just for entertainment value and also for his emotional style of play.

    The Broncos need to hope they finish last. No other team has a bigger reason to Suck For Luck. What will winning 5 games get them this year? I’m just concerned that Indy’s well orchestrated Suck For Luck strategy is much better than the Broncos.

  11. scarletmacaw says: Sep 26, 2011 5:22 PM

    Yes, it was not Orton’s fault Denver couldn’t punch it in with three runs from the 2 yard line.

    Hmm, I wonder which team has a backup QB that specialized at converting short yardage situations in college?

  12. drbandkgb says: Sep 26, 2011 5:25 PM

    Why did the Broncos ever pick up Fox.. He is a sub par Coach at Best (Like Jeff Fisher)

    Either way I like K.O. As a Titans fan I wanted us to trade for him this year.. The kid has been a winner every chance he gets.. Look he was a 3rd stringer for the Bears.. and won that year when he got to play..

    K.O. has no talent around him..

  13. footballking5 says: Sep 26, 2011 5:26 PM

    What in the world does everyone see in Orton. As a fan who has watched every bronco game, its clearly time to move on.

    Since the 6-0 miracle start with Mcdaniels he is 6-19 as a qb. And its like watching a broken tape in the fourth quarter. Whenever we need a drive in the final minutes, guaranteed turn over. Happens every time.

    Coach Fox is an idiot for not using Tebow at least in goal line situations. He proved last year just like in college that he has a nose for the endzone. To not use him is stupid.

    It sucks being a broncos fan right now and it wont get better until Orton is gone.

  14. opie333 says: Sep 26, 2011 5:31 PM

    hope he likes unemployment!

  15. adlent says: Sep 26, 2011 5:34 PM

    “He’s the 3rd string for a reason.”

    I see this a lot, and I have no stake in this, but I would also have to point out that they were ready to trade Orton and start Tebow as well — for a reason.

    Tebow didn’t do horrendous in his 3 game starting stint last year. Let the kid play. What do we know? He is a gamer, but not as good at practice. Settle it on the field, not from our armchairs.

  16. buckybadger says: Sep 26, 2011 5:35 PM

    Tebow needs to prove he can be a reliable QB before he can get the start. This notion they should play the guy just to see what he can do is ridiculous fan talk. Why shouldn’t he prove to the coaches he knows the offense? Fans don’t even see this guy in practice and scream for him to play.

    Orton isn’t great or barely average but he is by far the best Denver has. Putting in Tebow won’t help anything. With that said it is stupid to not have a goal-line package for him. That just seems like stubbornness by Fox.

    The loss should be blamed on Fox. To not kick the FG to go up 17-10 was a just plain stupid. You are on the road, take the points.

  17. jimbobobjr says: Sep 26, 2011 5:46 PM

    adlent says:
    Sep 26, 2011 5:34 PM
    “He’s the 3rd string for a reason.”

    I see this a lot, and I have no stake in this, but I would also have to point out that they were ready to trade Orton and start Tebow as well — for a reason.

    Tebow didn’t do horrendous in his 3 game starting stint last year. Let the kid play. What do we know? He is a gamer, but not as good at practice. Settle it on the field, not from our armchairs.

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    I remember unsubstantiated rumors about them possibly wanting to trade Orton. There are many rumors like that each offseason. I think their NFL coach would know who should be starting better than any of us..

  18. mmmpieyummy says: Sep 26, 2011 5:51 PM

    You know who else is behind Orton? Timmy Teblow on the depth chart! Hahahahahaha

  19. jaxdolfan says: Sep 26, 2011 6:04 PM

    They don’t have to start Tebow to use him. They should put a package in for him. Give other teams something to game plan.

    Orton 24/7 sure aint gettin the job done.

  20. toaster463 says: Sep 26, 2011 6:06 PM

    Truth is Jimbobob Jr, the Broncos and Dolphins agreed on compensation for the trade, The deal broke down because Orton wouldnt redo his contract to what Miami wanted it to be.

    So it wasnt unsubstantiated, it was happening.

    I too find it funny that the author of this article defends Orton, states that it wasnt his fault, but mentions the Broncos being stuffed at the goaline… HMMMM Tebow was pretty good last year on the goaline HMMMMM

    Figure it out Fox, if you dont want to start him, at least use him in a wildcat package from time to time, it was very effective last year

  21. Broncofanatic7 says: Sep 26, 2011 6:07 PM

    If people can be so ignorant as to say that “there’s no way Tebow would be better.”
    Then I say to you that you are easilt influenced by the media.
    The MEDIA is what started spreading all of these accusations on whether Tebow can play or not.
    The facts show that Tebow put up the same numbers as Orton last year in the 3 games he played, had a better winning percentage even though he won 1 out of 3 with no HC, no run game, players that had already checked out for the year, and he STILL got a win.
    So how can you honestly sit there and say that Tebow can’t play?
    A ROOKIE on a morally broken and beat down team last year goes out there and still performs well for a rookie QB. Give him a chance!!
    Tebow is going to get a shot, and he will prove to everyone that he can play in the NFL.

  22. bucsfan5000 says: Sep 26, 2011 6:16 PM

    Correction: “Right now, in our opinion, Kyle gives us the best chance to draft Andrew Luck.”

  23. bwisnasky says: Sep 26, 2011 6:22 PM

    The guy had a 300 yard passing game against the Raiders if I’m not mistaken,

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    You are mistaken.. against the Raiders he threw for 129 yards…. as the Raiders outgained Denver 502 to 235…..

  24. fergenator says: Sep 26, 2011 6:28 PM

    Fox reminds me of my old high school coach….we used to call him stubborn stupid! Be ready Denver…your misery is only starting…bottom feeders …yes stupid stubborn bottom feeders!

  25. jfurey says: Sep 26, 2011 6:41 PM

    john fox has never won crap in the nfl!!!! these retread coaches in the nfl are pathetic. yeah, i know mcdaniels crapped the bed, but there is also one loser still there that was part of it and that is brian xanders!!! from passing dez bryant for demaryius thomas to being brainwashed by mcdaniels into drafting tebow in the first round, this guy is the one to be fired immediately!!!!! wake up elway, your gm is crap!!!!!!

  26. acebandito says: Sep 26, 2011 6:45 PM

    Shouldn’t it be…“Right now, in our opinion, Kyle gives us the best chance to ALMOST win.”

    Kyle Orton may be the best almost winning QB in the NFL.

    Love hearing from all of these people who aren’t being subjected to the agony of having to watch Orton QB their favorite team every week how great he is.

    Put him in your team’s jersey, give him 8.8 million dollars, watch his unbelievably horrible pocket presence, see him stare down WR’s, marvel at his ability to check down before there’s any pressure whatsoever, rejoice in his late game failings all with the passion and leadership of human Prozac and then tell Broncos fans how great he is.

  27. jimbobobjr says: Sep 26, 2011 6:47 PM

    There should absolutely be a goal line/wildcat package for him, but he has no business starting. The offense at the college level that Tebow ran is way different than in the NFL If that kind of offense could succeed in the NFL, teams would be using it, especially with the lack of elite pocket passers in the league.
    toaster463, post a link to an article about the failed trade, and I will stand corrected.

  28. isphet71 says: Sep 26, 2011 6:51 PM

    Lions fan living in Denver now. Orton reminds me of Joey Harrington – juuust good enough where you can’t completely lay the blame on just him for all the losses he piles up.

    But he still finds ways to lose. Orton might give you the best chance to win right now; but it’s still nowhere near the chance you would expect to have in the NFL.

  29. NFLJunkie says: Sep 26, 2011 6:56 PM

    Either way I like K.O. As a Titans fan I wanted us to trade for him this year..

    And do what? Whine to the media about how cheap and dirty the defense was in practice? Tell Locker it wasn’t his job to mentor him?

    I used to feel sorry for Orton and all the grief he took in Chicago and thought he was getting a bad rap. But I’ve gotten over it.

  30. gilgafresh says: Sep 26, 2011 7:03 PM

    Some of you will have to take the word of those of us that have watched these games, but the situations where Orton has failed (and essentially lost these games) are the types of situations where Tebow seems to excel and thrive.

    In my opinion, this offense lacks a few things:

    1. Ability to convert short yardage situations
    2. Ability to convert in the redzone
    3. Inspirational play
    4. Imaginative play from the QB
    5. Big play potential / tendencies
    6. On the field leadership

    Now, what are Tebow’s strengths again?

    Further analysis of the QBs’ contract/escalator situation would be a rather enlightening write-up should any journalist want to go there (hint, hint).

  31. gmsingh says: Sep 26, 2011 7:08 PM

    John Fox is behind Kyle Orton? Hey, what they do in the locker room is their business.

  32. sterilizecromartie says: Sep 26, 2011 7:11 PM

    I have to ask the Orton supporters “What is the breaking point?” I mean, what will it take until you realize Orton sucks. He is 6-21 in his last 27 starts!! Seriously. What is it going to take? What does his record have to get to until you say “Ok, maybe it’s time they give Tebow a shot to see what he can do.”?

    I am not saying Tebow is the answer or that he will even be better than Orton. Anyone who says they know for a fact that Tebow will be better than Orton loses their credibility. Just like anyone who says they KNOW Tebow can’t be an NFL QB loses their credibility i.e. Merril Hodge.

    All I am saying is GIVE TEBOW A CHANCE. Orton had his chance. He had had 3 seasons worth of chances. Enough is enough. Time for Tebow’s turn.

  33. fjdk4444 says: Sep 26, 2011 7:27 PM

    4th and 1…didn’t matter…Titans would have stuffed Teblow just as easily as they did the RB.

  34. cgarsmoker says: Sep 26, 2011 8:41 PM

    That was the exact same line Fox said when he stuck with Jake Delhomme for 2 years too long in Charlotte. Thank goodness he’s not the Panthers coach anymore. Good luck Denver…. I feel for ya!

  35. fergenator says: Sep 26, 2011 10:07 PM

    Come on Elway…where is all that tranparency you promised….at least be honest with the fans….Tebow has a contract that pays a huge bonus if he plays more than 50% of this seasons games…(way to go McD…you even screwed up that K!) Now with Orton making 9 mil and not willing to redo his K…so if you play Tebow that number to pay your QB’s is huge….be honest and tell the fans that Denver is really on the CHEAP! Watch ….Denver will play Tebow when they don’t have to pay him! Sorry days on Denver!

  36. broncfolife says: Sep 27, 2011 9:27 AM

    Stop thinking Tebow is the answer. He played in 9 games last year. Did he make us a winning team? Throwing him inn here and there didn’t help. Starting him would be a disaster. He was a ridiculous 1st pick. He should have been chosen way down the line. All you Tebow fans bought into that crappy pick. Why not chant McDaniels too. Orton does his job. Now if others would too, we’d be 3-0. Watch the tape. The game isn’t just the last 3 min.

    He had tons of help falling short.

  37. broncobeta says: Sep 27, 2011 9:33 AM

    sundog05 says:
    Sep 26, 2011 5:21 PM
    I’ve seen this once proud franchise of mine get completely butchered and destroyed by Josh McDaniels. Very few people (if any) have left an NFL organization in such a disastrous state.

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    Please, get over it. I’m so sick of hearing about how Josh McDaniels is the sole reason why the franchise sucks right now.

    Shanahan screwed the Broncos over so hard by drafting bust after bust. Jeff Shoate, Terry Pierce, Jarvis Moss, Tim Crowder, Marcus Thomas, Karyl Paymah, and the list could continue forever.

    Josh McDaniels was foolish for being in “win now” mode when he inherited the Broncos from Shanahan. If McDaniels was wise he would have drafted for the future and not relied on old defensive tackles to “win now”.

    Shanahan did the exact same thing by signing guys like Dwayne Robertson, Alvin McKinley, Michael Myers, Sam Adams, and a dozen more disappointments.

    There was truly little difference between Josh McDaniels and Mike Shanahan. So if you really think it was all Josh McDaniels then you need to check yourself and stop complaining.

  38. broncfolife says: Sep 27, 2011 9:46 AM

    He’s a gamer? Then why was he horrible in preseason against 3rd string offenses? He’ll make things worse. Maybe a healthy team will turn things around. We shouldn’t depend on one guy to win us the game. If that’s your theory, then follow you know who.

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