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Pereira calls Vick’s complaints “a bunch of bull”

Mike Pereira, FOX NFL Sunday AP

The NFL is saying nothing about Eagles quarterback Mike Vick’s recent complaints regarding the late of roughing the passer penalties.  (We know this because we asked the NFL.)  Former NFL V.P. of officiating Mike Pereira is saying plenty.

Appearing on Mad Dog Radio’s Evan and Phillips in the Morning (on SiriusXM Radio), Pereira was pointed in his criticism of Vick’s criticism.

“Well, I thought it was ridiculous,” said Pereira, who now serves as a rules analyst for FOX.  “It actually took me back, it took me back to my job in New York when I worked for the league, and it was a constant complaint by the Eagles, whether it was [Donovan] McNabb at quarterback or whether it was Vick.  They clearly complained more than any other team.”

Pereira pointed to the statistics from ESPN showing the Eagles get more roughing the passer calls than any other team in the NFC East, and the seventh most league-wide.

“He’s a quarterback that’s on the move, he’s going to get hit more,” Pereira said.  “Yes, there are a couple that may be missed but the fact that a ton of them are missed and that he’s hit late all the time is absurd.  And he comes out and kind of does the mea culpa yesterday but at the same time what did he say?  ‘I was being too candid.’  Well, that doesn’t sound to me like much of an apology.  And also the damage is done.  I don’t want to be the referee that goes in there now next and works with him.  If he calls a roughing the passer penalty for a hit on Vick everybody’s going to say, ‘Well, Vick taunted him into that.’  If he doesn’t [call it] there’s going to be more criticism.  So I think it was a bunch of bull and it didn’t sit well with me and it still doesn’t.”

That’s a great point from Pereira, and that’s why Vick should have said nothing to the media.  These are issues that need to be handled privately and discreetly.  As NFL spokesman Greg Aiello pointed out via email, “We do have a long-standing procedure that gives our teams the opportunity each week to receive a full  explanation from our head of officiating about any call that they wish to question.”

No one wants to be called out publicly about their performance on the job, especially not NFL referees, who already are the targets for criticism.  And so whenever Vick plays next, we’ll all know who the referee is — and we’ll be constantly reminded after a hit on Vick whether he’s getting the calls that, when speaking candidly, he thinks he should be getting.

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  1. medtxpack says: Sep 27, 2011 12:57 PM

    “They clearly complained more than any other team.”

    Thats all i needed to hear…

  2. roaryhatesjc says: Sep 27, 2011 1:01 PM

    Sounds Just like Philadelphia. A town of whiners.

  3. telergy says: Sep 27, 2011 1:01 PM

    “He’s a quarterback that’s on the move, he’s going to get hit more,” Pereira said.

    This makes it OK?

    Who cares about the ESPN stat.

    IS HE GETTING HIT LATE? YES. THEN THROW THE FLAG, PLAIN AND SIMPLE. CUT AND DRY. BLACK AND WHITE.

  4. scudbot says: Sep 27, 2011 1:01 PM

    Vick’s hankie hand hurts. Cut him a break.

  5. redrifle14 says: Sep 27, 2011 1:02 PM

    Vick (along with the eagles) are a bunch of pansies. Im looking forward to him losing more games, then blame it on racist refs…. lol

  6. myspaceyourface says: Sep 27, 2011 1:04 PM

    Roethlisberger could complain about this type of thing, yet never does. He gets hit late, low, in the head, piled on and rarely gets a flag.

    I don’t know if they don’t throw the flag because he runs or because he’s big but teams get away with hammering him.

    Yet he never ever complains about the officials. If they don’t improve their o-line, Ben might get killed this season.

  7. 7thlombardiontheway says: Sep 27, 2011 1:04 PM

    WAHH WAHH WAHH

  8. demo3356 says: Sep 27, 2011 1:04 PM

    LMFAO!! Shut up and play now Captain K..That is if your wittle bwuised hand is awl better…

  9. gb4ever0811 says: Sep 27, 2011 1:05 PM

    Most in NFC East? 7th most league-wide? Wow. That’s incredible and sad. No, rather, what’s incredible and sad is the Eagles constant complaints about it. Living in the Philly area I get to watch the Eagles on a weekly basis. Vick gets hit more b/c he runs and also b/c he holds the ball for too long, kinds like Jay Cutler.

  10. scudbot says: Sep 27, 2011 1:05 PM

    It’s officially time for Eagles fans to roll out the Horrible Hanky.

  11. scutzi128 says: Sep 27, 2011 1:06 PM

    Pereira imo knows nothing….half of his calls when they go to him on broadcasts are completely wrong. They need to get rid of him.

  12. twitter:Chapman_Jamie says: Sep 27, 2011 1:06 PM

    Wow, this is the first time I can agree and tolerate Pereira.

  13. favreforever says: Sep 27, 2011 1:06 PM

    Prison changed Michael Vick. It made him two years older. Other than that everything is the same.

  14. hus10188 says: Sep 27, 2011 1:06 PM

    Its amazing how humble Mike Vick was when he was released from prison, seemed subdued and respectful, same thing when he was just another guy as a back up QB, he had me fooled, I genuinely thought he was a changed man.

    Fast forward a couple years, boy was I wrong, from pointing to the scoreboards, to declaring defenses can’t stop him and blaming the refs for his brittleness.

    Instead of feeling targeted, he should feel extremely fortunate because name another QB who can play well for only 5 games and in turn be rewarded with a $100 million contract.

  15. thereisalwaysnextyear says: Sep 27, 2011 1:08 PM

    “Pereira pointed to the statistics from ESPN showing the Eagles get more roughing the passer calls than any other team in the NFC East, and the seventh most league-wide.”

    Enough said. Maybe he should direct his ire at the O line and not the refs, who are according to ESPN are already calling late hits.

  16. sprest83 says: Sep 27, 2011 1:08 PM

    Vick sucks, period!

  17. pjcostello says: Sep 27, 2011 1:08 PM

    I had some respect for Pereira, but that’s gone now. The idea that some referee at some future time will or will not feel as though they have been ‘goaded’ into a call — or a non-call — is idiotic. Referees are not little tin gods, they are human and they make mistakes (see also: Hochuli, Ed). Whether they have or not in this case is irrelevant to the point: They should be held accountable.

    Is Pereira suggesting that the New York papers should also depict the referees as little girls, too?

    Of course this treatment of refs as untouchable isn’t limited to football, but pervades all sports, and I think that part of the reason is this notion that they cannot be challenged to do a better job.

    Vick was angry and hurting and went too far with his comments, no question. There was a grain of truth to his comments, but not a ton — maybe one or two potential calls in Sunday’s game were missed, but no more — and he should have waited until he was calmer before speaking. We have all done THAT.

    This pompous blowhard Pereira, though, got my goat with his nonsense. While he does have some integrity in his ref-related commentary, his knee-jerk Mama-bear act of all things black-and-white striped is smarmy self-interest at its worst.

  18. sasquash20 says: Sep 27, 2011 1:08 PM

    I hate Vick but hes right. This guy is just backing his old buddies. Vick doesn’t leave the pocket every play, and to treat him different because he can is just wrong. There were at least 2 late hits last week against the Giants. That said the Giants kicked the crap out of the Eagles.

  19. snowpea84 says: Sep 27, 2011 1:08 PM

    What a shock that the complaints aren’t valid.

  20. cmb79 says: Sep 27, 2011 1:08 PM

    Well, somebody send this rebuttal to Whitlock.

  21. chocolatebaconbutter says: Sep 27, 2011 1:08 PM

    And the NFL rules and officiating team are smiling ear to ear right now for Pereirs doing their dirty work.

    Shut up Vick and play. It’s the NFL. You want ridiculous calls go play in the NBA.

  22. mlenenski says: Sep 27, 2011 1:10 PM

    Vick needs to complain, its his right. Refs will notice.

    And the Colts need to trade for Tim Tebow. Not anything like Peyton Manning, but would be a blast to watch as he brought a totally different game to Indianapolis.

    John Fox is an idiot….his loyalty to Jake was the same as his apparent loyalty to Orton.

  23. 44kyle says: Sep 27, 2011 1:10 PM

    “….it was a constant complaint by the Eagles, whether it was [Donovan] McNabb at quarterback or whether it was Vick. They clearly complained more than any other team.”
    =====================================
    When you play in Philly, where life is so dismal, all you can do is complain. People dis Eli, but he’s got class. Never complains or makes excuses.

  24. sddartman says: Sep 27, 2011 1:10 PM

    Just more insite into the mind of Mike Vick. Still an immature cry baby. “Everybody’s picking on me”. Thinks he’s owed something. He hasn’t learned anything from his time in prison except not to get caught next time. Still the same old “entitled” athlete who gets what he wants and crys when he doesn’t.

  25. deadeye says: Sep 27, 2011 1:10 PM

    Vick is lame and Pereira is making him look stupid. The Eagles are now regretting the $100,000,000 they wasted on MV.

  26. sophiethegreatdane says: Sep 27, 2011 1:11 PM

    “They clearly complained more than any other team.”

    I’M SHOCKED! SHOCKED, I tell you!

  27. mister12 says: Sep 27, 2011 1:12 PM

    What shouldn’t sit well with you is the amount of objectiveness that goes into that call and all the other “defenseless” calls. I understand the attempt, but its just not there yet. Then you won’t have to worry about how a complaint “sits” when you can “stand” by a good policy.

  28. deenice810 says: Sep 27, 2011 1:12 PM

    Our daily Vick story. Now my day is complete.

  29. ryandg5 says: Sep 27, 2011 1:12 PM

    Pretty funny to hear PFT say:

    “…and that’s why Vick should have said nothing to the media. These are issues that need to be handled privately and discreetly.”

  30. Peter Venkman says: Sep 27, 2011 1:13 PM

    Was Vick’s right hand the non-dominant one when murdering dogs too?

  31. greymares says: Sep 27, 2011 1:13 PM

    why should Vick not have said what he thought (HIS OPINION). the whole world expects these guys to talk to the media and help them create their stories. If anybody disagrees they will state that also, and THEY DID. what makes the officials exempt from criticism, from coaches,players or fans after all instant replay has at least shown us that they certainly aren’t right all the time. and how is Pereira any different than Vick by pointing out that the Eagles have complained about this for years as opposed to any other team that felt the same way. of course it wasn’t a legitimate apology, he was trying as an after thought to protect his wallet. by the way when was the last time an official was fined?

  32. bensoon43 says: Sep 27, 2011 1:14 PM

    While Vick should not have complained to the media, pointing out that the Eagles lead the NFC East in roughing the passer calls over a few years is a bunch of bull. Link that stat to a percentage of passes thrown and then you’re getting somewhere. I’ll bet the Eagles are towards the bottom of the list of roughing the passer calls when looking at a percentage. In either case, their line blows and Vick will likely be seriously injured before long.

  33. dexterismyhero says: Sep 27, 2011 1:14 PM

    I loved seeing him get drilled by the Giants D-Lineman after the interception……

  34. zerored78 says: Sep 27, 2011 1:14 PM

    “We do have a long-standing procedure that gives our teams the opportunity each week to receive a full explanation from our head of officiating about any call that they wish to question.”

    Which, considering the quality of refing we see each week, does absolutely nothing. Until the NFL makes officials full time and then publicly holds them accountable for their errors, nothing will change.

  35. phillywarmachine says: Sep 27, 2011 1:14 PM

    Pereira is an idiot and offers 0 substance to football games. I loved last year when he thought a call would go one way and his refs called it another. Idiot.

  36. tampajoey says: Sep 27, 2011 1:15 PM

    Philadelphia is becoming the NFC version of the Jets. Over-hyped, cry-babies that aren’t living up to media expectations. They can’t handle the pressure and have more excuses than answers.

    Maybe the Jets and Eagles should go play basketball in Miami.

  37. nagaswan says: Sep 27, 2011 1:16 PM

    It would be an interesting assesment if it wasn’t coming from the league’s leading lapdog and defender of all things ref. He watches the tape so you don’t have to!

  38. nagaswan says: Sep 27, 2011 1:16 PM

    It would be an interesting assessment if it wasn’t coming from the league’s leading lapdog and defender of all things ref. He watches the tape so you don’t have to!

  39. winkeroni says: Sep 27, 2011 1:17 PM

    I’m not sure why he was complaining. The ref did a good job of helping him to his feet most of the game. I thought it was kind of odd that the ref helped him off the turf multiple times Sunday. If anything he should be thanking the ref for giving him a hand.

  40. boopipes says: Sep 27, 2011 1:18 PM

    Pereira is a moron. He gets the majority of the calls I’ve seen incorrect so it’s hard to give any credence to anything he says.

  41. splattmando says: Sep 27, 2011 1:18 PM

    I understand what everyone is saying about Vick being on the move. However, the big play in question has Mike Vick simply dropping back and passing the ball. The defender takes a step or 2 after the ball is gone before he hits the QB. Even before the new rules, this would have been called a late hit in alot of cases.

    They are correct. There have been other hits that SHOULD have been called according to the rules. Maybe the referees need to call the games a little better.

  42. huhfasi says: Sep 27, 2011 1:18 PM

    Anyone else laugh about them talking about Mike Vick on Mad Dog Radio?

  43. faulkana says: Sep 27, 2011 1:18 PM

    Well…There you have it Philly.
    Biggest whiners in the league.
    Congrats. It’s official.

  44. mikejd12 says: Sep 27, 2011 1:18 PM

    Is this the same guy that used to feed me “a bunch of bull” on nfl network, giving me excuses about why calls were made right when they were clearly made wrong. I watched him on nfl network and me and my friends would laugh and say ” i cant wate to see this joker give me a bunch of crap on how some of these calls were right” I dont care about what he has to say. Hes a bunch of bull

  45. osmocosmo says: Sep 27, 2011 1:19 PM

    Vick has taken 47 hits in three games, most of them in the pocket.

    Consider that for a moment.

    Vick isn’t the only player not getting calls, but it’s safe to say that his treatment is unfair. While it may not be *grossly* unfair, it’s pretty obvious to anyone with a decent set of eyeballs that Vick is getting hit on virtually every other play — whether in the pocket, or out of it.

  46. whiteskinsblackskinsredskins says: Sep 27, 2011 1:19 PM

    This guys obviously has a personal issue with the Eagles. Tom Jackson during the pre-game last clearly illustrated that the hit from Canty was illegal.

  47. madtolive5 says: Sep 27, 2011 1:20 PM

    the NFL needs better guidelines.
    Week to Week and Game to Game are way to inconsistent. Late hits, Low hits and Pass interference calls from the Buffalo vs New England, Bears vs Green Bay, Pittsburgh vs Indy and Dallas vs Washington were so different.

    It is becoming NBA-ish

  48. east96st says: Sep 27, 2011 1:20 PM

    THANK YOU!!! FINALLY!!! I made four comments yesterday pointing this out. None contained vulgarity, none wished Vick dead, none compared Vick to a certain area of a woman’s anatomy. Yet, not one was allowed through. Not one. Pereira has to be the one to step forward and call this what it is – an outright lie and campaigning for calls he doesn’t deserve. Fortunately, your censors allow Pereira to speak. Interesting system – point out the facts, get censored. Call Vick a p***y or wish him death, get posted. So much for keeping it “civil” and all about football.

  49. tedesco47 says: Sep 27, 2011 1:20 PM

    This is why you are a FORMER VP of officiating, you idiot…

    This is my favourite quote:
    “He’s a quarterback that’s on the move, he’s going to get hit more,” Pereira said. “Yes, there are a couple that may be missed”

    Vick wasn’t complaining about the hits he takes while on the move, if you actually listened, he complained about being hit in the pocket.
    Secondly, his point was that the one’s that the referees missed, they would NEVER miss on poster-boy qb’s like brady and manning.

    Think before you speak you clown.

    As for vick, he shouldn’t have come out and said anything, thats for the coach to do, but he is absolutely right…

  50. dolphins4 says: Sep 27, 2011 1:21 PM

    Pereira ought to stand in the back field and get hit every play after the ball was thrown 5 seconds ago and see how much bull it is then.These other teams like Atlanta and the Giants are trying to knock Vick out of the game because they know it will be alot easier beating the Eagles without Vick than to have Vick play all the time.I’d also like to see the NFL let guys like Tom Brady and the Mannings get pile drived every play like they do Vick.

  51. jakek2 says: Sep 27, 2011 1:21 PM

    Finally this guy says something I completely agree with.

  52. birdobeamen says: Sep 27, 2011 1:21 PM

    NFL Referees need to be called out when they don’t call something the same way players get called out when they don’t play well.

    Mike Pereira can STFU.

  53. kandh2004 says: Sep 27, 2011 1:22 PM

    Vick might be moving around more but that does not give defenses the ok to hit him any way they want too. The hit by Canty was a cheap shot and he lead with the helmet and nothing was called. The one play the guy is on top of Vick pushing him back to the ground nothing called. This guy is gonna stick up for the refs because he worked with them and doesn’t want to burn any bridges

  54. paulitik74 says: Sep 27, 2011 1:23 PM

    Vick is SOFT.

  55. johnsticle says: Sep 27, 2011 1:23 PM

    Vick needs to grow up and realize not everybody likes him. I don’t see how he thinks he’s not getting the calls, the most recent one… maybe… but I can’t recall any other “late hits” that didn’t get called on him.

  56. mhassett03 says: Sep 27, 2011 1:23 PM

    I’m almost as tired of hearing from Pereira as I am Tony Dungy. GO AWAY!

    But yes, I agree.

  57. flakazoid says: Sep 27, 2011 1:24 PM

    Finally we don’t have to listen to Favre, Favre, Favre anymore..
    ..we have to listen to Vick, Vick, Vick…

    I’m so sick of hearing about this guy

  58. chmba says: Sep 27, 2011 1:24 PM

    Pereira is nothing but a verbal “pimp” for NFL to try to justify the continuing ineptness of the officiating. These type penalties are completely inconsistent and all Pereira does is try to whitewash the situation. Fox having this clown on makes me want to watch whatever the CBS game is.

  59. tatatoothy says: Sep 27, 2011 1:26 PM

    Like

  60. gcsuk says: Sep 27, 2011 1:28 PM

    Glad to see Pereira pointed to actual facts that the Eagles ARE getting the calls that Ms Vick says aren’t getting called. Let’s see if they get those “borderline” calls from now on.

  61. jimyritz says: Sep 27, 2011 1:29 PM

    Stop your whining Vicky….

    Would love to hear whta Pereira thinks about pass interference…Having it as a spot foul is a joke…The Refs have no idea, every game is different….

  62. pixelito says: Sep 27, 2011 1:31 PM

    I love how that pompous Tom Jackson’s manufactured diatribe about Vick not getting calls got completely erased when Trent Dilfer threw out facts that showed Tom Jackson was completely talking out of his ass.

    No Tom, your “boy” ain’t catching any breaks.

  63. rc33 says: Sep 27, 2011 1:31 PM

    Flat-out stupid decision by Vick to call out the ref’s.
    What’d he hope to gain?
    Antonio Garay was fined $15K for blasting Brady in the knee a week ago on a play where no flag was thrown.
    And that’s Brady, who supposedly gets EVERY call, right?
    Does Vick really believe he’s the only QB not getting calls?

    Then the moron modifies or retracts his statement…no doubt figuring he didn’t really help his situation by criticizing the referees in the first place.
    Uh…..little too late for that, Mike.

  64. marinephinfan says: Sep 27, 2011 1:32 PM

    Vick is a coward, a felon, and a crybaby. He’s not a good NFL QB and now that he’s back to playing like he did pre-incarceration he’s looking for excuses.

    The truth is Vick sucks as a QB. Last year was a fluke. I will love to watch as his completion % dives back down into the 50% range this season.

  65. floudercards says: Sep 27, 2011 1:33 PM

    I don’t agree with Vick said or did, however

    “Yes, there are a couple that may be missed ”

    So thus he admits the officals are terrible and miss calls all the time. If I did my job as bad as the officals in football today I would have been fired a long time ago. …

    Just because the QB is on the move he is going to get hit more is not for his an officals interruptation. His interruptation is whether the hit is legal or not. Whether the QB is in the pocket or not, the rules are simple, no helmet to helmet hits, don’t hit him while he is sliding feet first and you can’t take more than 2 steps to hit him and don’t hit him in the knees or below, don’t grab his facemask etc. That is all the officals should be interuprating, not well Vick is a running QB so he is going to take more hits.

  66. brownsince64 says: Sep 27, 2011 1:34 PM

    i guess perierra has to get his name in the press now too. This is a nonstory. The refs will do their job, Vick will try to do his. The losers are the Eagles. vick is lucky to make play more than 10 games of a season, and he is too reckless when he is in there. He is just good enough to lose the game for you.

  67. bleedgreen4life says: Sep 27, 2011 1:35 PM

    This coming from a guy who is never right when a play is challenged.

  68. deeboisgonnaeatyourkids says: Sep 27, 2011 1:36 PM

    Pereira is still on Goodell’s payroll

  69. pecophilly says: Sep 27, 2011 1:39 PM

    I LOVE THESE COMMENTS!

    Just more fuel to add to the fire when the Eagles right the ship and make another run at the Lombardi while the Skins/Cowboys/Giants are all sitting home watching on TV!

    But hey, it’s ok. You’ve won past superbowls.

    You know who talks about the past?
    PRESENT DAY LOSERS!!!!!!!

  70. east96st says: Sep 27, 2011 1:40 PM

    Notice how everyone is still ignoring the blatant facemask Babin committed against Eli. Poor, poor little Mikey. All the QBs get the calls? Philly is dirtiest team and League and doesn’t get called for it’s constant cheap shots on the QB and it’s O line’s endless holding. Philly should sending the refs flowers for how much they let them get away with.

  71. flakazoid says: Sep 27, 2011 1:40 PM

    It could be worse, Michael…
    …you could be an innocent dog being forced to fight for your life

  72. skindome1234 says: Sep 27, 2011 1:40 PM

    I have never hear him not back up the trash refs on the field. How the F does this boring twit even have a job. He is a waste of air space and Fox should be ashamed of not pulling the plug on an experiment gone bad. Douche!!!!

  73. joetoronto says: Sep 27, 2011 1:42 PM

    Vick didn’t just throw the officials under the bus, he threw his linemen under it too.

    Vick is the turd of all turds.

  74. mhalt99 says: Sep 27, 2011 1:45 PM

    It does not matter if they get more calls than other teams – that is actually a misleading comparison because if he happens to be getting hit that much more then of course they will have more calls.

    Pereira actually makes Vick’s and the Eagle’s case for them when he mentions:

    “He’s a quarterback that’s on the move, he’s going to get hit more”

    It seems as if there is an unwritten policy in the NFL that allows for the defenders to treat the QB as an RB if he is a dangerous runner. There is good reason for this, but if it is the case then it should be a written rule as opposed to an unwritten one. One major question would be how the rule that is currently unwritten is implemented.

    Does it matter if highly mobile QB is in or out of the pocket? What about coming off of a fake on a boot when said player does not have the ball – can he be tackled or launched at? How about on any play action?

    Before I close I have to say that the more I think about the comment, the more it annoys me. Running QB’s should be hit more past the line of scrimmage as they are of acting as a ball carrier for a larger percentage of plays. This should not be a factor inside the pocket behind the line of scrimmage or on playaction type handoffs. While I do not blame him for speaking out for his former co-workers who more than likely have a gag order in their contract, Pereira is clearly acting as their mouthpiece.

    Unless there is a specific rule then Vick should get the same roughing calls as Tom Brady just as Curtis Painter should receive the same pass interference calls as Peyton Manning would. Of course this does not happen.

    One last point. For a qb that is highly mobile I would think that officials would have a plan to watch him extra carefully as they could easily be faked out themselves by some of the handoffs and fakes that may be employed. Additionally, if a qb is more likely to run with the ball I would think that the officials would have to pay more attention to the qb as the action of the play would be more likely to end with the ball in his hand. With this in mind, a mobile QB should actually have a much lower percentage of calls missed than a QB who is a purely pocket passer.

    Again this all comes down to an unwritten rule that should be written. If mobile QB’s require special rules then let everyone know the rules and let teams know which of their QB’s fall under that list. If the highly mobile QB is too much of a wild card for the officials to watch as they already have so many other players and calls to watch out for why not bring in an additional official whose sole responsibility is on late hits to the QB. Would another set of eyes be harmful to the game.

    Please note this is not about just Vick and the Eagles. This is about highly mobile QB’s. It should be addressed as there seem to be more players entering the league that fit this mold.

  75. riverace19 says: Sep 27, 2011 1:45 PM

    Vick should look at his crappy O line first… they can’t stop anybody.
    He’s always going to be on the injury report because he isn’t a big guy and takes risks every week.
    That makes him one of the more exciting players in the league but does have it’s injury downside.
    The luster has worn off Vick, and now the Eagles are stuck with him for a long time, at least financially.
    So far this year he is reminding me an awful lot of the Atlanta QB… NFL defenses have had enough time to figure him out.

  76. pigeonpea says: Sep 27, 2011 1:47 PM

    redrifle14 says:
    Vick (along with the eagles) are a bunch of pansies. Im looking forward to him losing more games, then blame it on racist refs…. lol

    Hasn’t that been Vick’s M.O. for his entire career? Get busted torturing dogs to death: blame it on racist society. Get thrown in the clink for interstate racketeering: blame it on a racist justice system. Get shopped around without a sniff from any team after getting out of the clink: blame it on a racist sports league. Get laid out in the backfield because you suck as a passer: blame it on a racist referee team.

    Does anyone else see a pattern here?

  77. drbob117 says: Sep 27, 2011 1:48 PM

    Vick usually doesn’t say much to officials. He made an exception last weeks after Canty’s hit. There are many QB’s in this league that whine and complain about every call way more than anyone on the Eagles. Drew Brees spends half the game campaigning for calls. Coughlin jockeys refs WAY more than Andy Reid. Periera needs to relax. The refs screw up, just like everyone else, and Jeff Triplette( last weeks Eagles/ Giants ref) has been involved in more than his share.

  78. Slim Charles says: Sep 27, 2011 1:48 PM

    Yeah, I sure trust Pereira, he did a bang up job running the Pac 10 officiating. /sarcasm

  79. cobrala2 says: Sep 27, 2011 1:49 PM

    This story in general has a tremendous level of misquoting and misunderstanding on all sides. The race card gets played (by whites of all things), Pereira uses it to continue his attention deficit disorder, Trent Dildo continues BSPN’s perpetual-noisemaking-machine…

    The true story underneath this all is moving the Umpire has produced catastrophic results in officiating quality.

    The more all you chumps (PFT Commentary Crew, not PFT Proper) focus on Vick, Philly, he-said-she-said, or whatever, the more you’re missing the point: with increased legislation from the Goodell era comes increased difficulty with officiating and the game is suffering for it. It’s the CON to Goodell’s PRO of trying to protect players. Nobody but Goodell wants anything to do with it – even Mr. Bundchen tries to distance himself from it by calling it the Carson Palmer Rule.

  80. joetoronto says: Sep 27, 2011 1:49 PM

    It’s easy to blame the O-line, they did the same thing in Atlanta when the turd was there.

    It’s not easy to block for a “QB” that’s never where he’s supposed to be, while you have your back turned to him.

  81. wferg1121 says: Sep 27, 2011 1:50 PM

    osmocosmo says:
    Sep 27, 2011 1:19 PM

    “Vick has taken 47 hits in three games, most of them in the pocket.

    Consider that for a moment.

    Vick isn’t the only player not getting calls, but it’s safe to say that his treatment is unfair. While it may not be *grossly* unfair, it’s pretty obvious to anyone with a decent set of eyeballs that Vick is getting hit on virtually every other play — whether in the pocket, or out of it.”

    I considered it, and the Eagles offensive line is very bad.. You have a lot of teams trash on that O-line.. I thought that facemask by Eli was unfair and there was no flag. On a brighter note at least they have corners, by the way :)

  82. toledoohoh says: Sep 27, 2011 1:51 PM

    Does anyone have recent stats of how many times teams had roughing the passer called for/against them? Would be nice to get them in official form to shut up the people who say Manning and Brady get all the calls.

    Colts and Pats were both in the bottom handful of teams benefiting from RTP calls the last two years at least.

  83. citynative says: Sep 27, 2011 1:53 PM

    “They clearly complained more than any other team.”

    So there not only “The Dream Team” but now “The Scream Team?”

    Go Niners!

  84. juiceboxsupply says: Sep 27, 2011 1:55 PM

    Anyone see the Pats hit Fitzpatrick after taking a knee like three times in a row? Kind of off topic, but why was that allowed?

  85. crubenst says: Sep 27, 2011 1:55 PM

    Pereira is whining bigger than Vick. Wah…. Vick called us out publicly…. Wah. Boo hoo.

  86. whoisgonnasing says: Sep 27, 2011 1:56 PM

    One more reason to admire Michael Vick. He’s so adorable.

  87. wferg1121 says: Sep 27, 2011 1:57 PM

    pecophilly says:
    Sep 27, 2011 1:39 PM

    “But hey, it’s ok. You’ve won past superbowls.

    You know who talks about the past?
    PRESENT DAY LOSERS!!!!!!! ”

    Hmmm since you can’t talk about the past, that must make you a total loser. :)

  88. jianningwu says: Sep 27, 2011 1:57 PM

    Commenters complain about all of the Philly articles…. at last count, this 6th article on Vick complaining had 78 comments, and still going.

    The P in PFT apparently stands for Philly.

  89. 1509lucky says: Sep 27, 2011 2:00 PM

    Yeah,its a bunch of Bull,just like the interception that hit the ground that was blown or the phantom holding call in the Bears game this weekend.

  90. dukemarc says: Sep 27, 2011 2:01 PM

    “make another run at the Lombardi”

    How’s that worked out for you in the past?

  91. scudbot says: Sep 27, 2011 2:02 PM

    “Vick has taken 47 hits in three games, most of them in the pocket. ” See what happened in game 1? Reid wants him in the pocket to keep him from getting hurt while running around. But Vick holds the ball too long. He doesn’t have the quick progression/decision making ability of QBs who have played a lot less than 8 years. Besides, Cutler’s been hit more than that and he hasn’t whined like Vick did.

  92. bigbluefan1 says: Sep 27, 2011 2:03 PM

    Hey pecophilly

    As far as present day losers

    The Giants took the Egals to school on every side of the game you were out coached out and out played
    That was two days ago so who is presently a loser?

    Yes the Skins the Cowboys and Giants have all won Super Bowls
    As matter of fact the NFC has more Trophies then any other Div
    The last was won just 4 short years ago when the Giants beat the unbeatable.

    The Egals and the Jets look good on paper but the sad truth is you have to play the game
    The only thing paper is good for is training your dog
    Oh thats right your QB can not even own a gold fish

  93. cabalogia says: Sep 27, 2011 2:03 PM

    Just c’mon out and saying bluntly Mike..They’re doing this because you’re black right? Hahahaha

  94. ronin36 says: Sep 27, 2011 2:05 PM

    Here’s a chance for PFT to do some digging.

    The hit that seems to be tied with this show the defender 1) have two steps to slowdown or avoid contact and 2) lowering his head at the last moment.

    PFT can do a bunch of cool things.

    1) Publish a list of “late hit” calls league wide. a nice stat. Either substatiate Pereira’s claims, or refute them.

    2.) Gather the number of “missed” late hits game by game, team by team, refering crew by crew.

    It would be interesting to see what teams have had to endure the most ‘missed’ late hits. Which referring crew throws the most, or the fewest late hit flags. Which defense gets away with the most late-hits and/or “missed” late hits.

    Instead of just talking about what people say.. I want to see PFT do some digging and gather some information, and see where that info leads.

  95. flyinhighwithvick says: Sep 27, 2011 2:05 PM

    I wonder how many calls they got from Big Momma McNabb over the years?

  96. cscfriarbob says: Sep 27, 2011 2:06 PM

    On one hand, I have to agree that nobody likes to be criticized publicly when they are doing a crappy job. And they like it even less when they aren’t.

    Unfortunately, the NFL and officials league-wide have been utter crap this year. They seem to be trending down as well, last year was bad but not this bad… but maybe it’s just always been crap and I’m more aware of it now. But either way, it’s not just Vick. They have missed some on him, but not that many (if any) more than they’ve missed elsewhere. They’ve just missed or gotten wrong an outright ton of calls in only three games so far. At the current rate we’ll hit 1000 bad calls by week 10 or sooner.

    And I’m getting pretty sick of it.

  97. alaricsrevenge says: Sep 27, 2011 2:07 PM

    Wouldn’t it be great if he came out and said who the other 6 teams were that complained more than the Eagles… and it was your team.

  98. randallcobb says: Sep 27, 2011 2:10 PM

    Play the damn game as it should be played. I’m tired of all these flags for late hits and unnecessary roughness. You don’t want to get hit, play defense and quit whining. This all started with Brady that wuss.

  99. blaz0037 says: Sep 27, 2011 2:13 PM

    Couldn’t agree more.

    Lot of talk out of Vick, and I still haven’t any video evidence of what he is talking about.

  100. citizenstrange says: Sep 27, 2011 2:18 PM

    Legitimate question:

    What does Mike Pereira think of the non – ejction/flag/fine/suspension of when Ngata punched Roethlisberger in the face and splattered his nose last year?

    How in the world can the ref say “He was just trying to tackle you?” Can you imagine if James Harrison did that to Brady or Manning or Brees?

    Or how about if James Harison walked up and sucker punched Brady or Manning or Brees in the face FROM BEHIND the way that Richard Seymour did to Roethlisberger?

    You have to call it both ways refs and you are not even coming close?

    NFL officiating is a joke.

  101. curtainclosed says: Sep 27, 2011 2:19 PM

    Refs do seemed to be inconsistent when it comes to roughing the QB. That really needs addressed. No point in cryin’ about it though.

  102. ronin36 says: Sep 27, 2011 2:22 PM

    Some of the smarter talking heads have hit on the real problem…

    Inconsistency.

    One officiating crew will call a late hit, others won’t.

    The same crew will call late in on one play, not on another.

    If crews need to be increased by one or two or ten guys, so be it. But get it right, and get it consistent.

    Here’s another problem. Camera angles. If cameras and instant replays are going to be used to determine calls. Shouldn’t there be standard positions/placements for cameras? Shouldn’t there be a camera looking down each goal-line? Each side line? Each back of the endzone? And from each side? Heck.. Those cameras don’t even need to be manned. Just fixed.

  103. laeaglefan says: Sep 27, 2011 2:23 PM

    I didn’t hear Vick complaining when his own player, Jason Babin clearly grabbed Eli Manning’s face mask before sacking him and nothing was called.

  104. dexterismyhero says: Sep 27, 2011 2:24 PM

    @floudercards says: Just because the QB is on the move he is going to get hit more is not for his an officals interruptation. His interruptation is whether the hit is legal or not. That is all the officals should be interuprating, not well Vick is a running QB so he is going to take more hits===================================

    WTF? Dude, try looking up the word if you can’t spell it.

    Interpretation—–Sorry for being a grammar cop…

    Sometimes these posts are better than Comedy Central.

  105. eagleswineagleswin says: Sep 27, 2011 2:32 PM

    Pereira is a joke and has no credibility. I hope he chokes on his dinner

  106. Mr. Wright 212 says: Sep 27, 2011 2:38 PM

    scutzi128 says: Sep 27, 2011 1:06 PM

    Pereira imo knows nothing….half of his calls when they go to him on broadcasts are completely wrong. They need to get rid of him.
    ————-

    Coulda sworn I heard Aikman remark that Pereira is NEVER wrong, and by my estimation in a season plus 3 weeks’ worth of games, I’ve only found 2-3 instances where I disagreed with him and/or the rules were misinterpreted, where the on-field officials ruled differently than what he would have.

    You sound like another one of these excuse-making pansies who thought it was CERTAIN they would begin the “seven in a row” chants, and now have ZERO to talk to Giants fans about. a la LeSheka McCoy.

  107. dclogicatlast says: Sep 27, 2011 2:39 PM

    I would take the commentary from this message board more seriously if there weren’t so many racists posting here.

    Half of you need to go back into you trailer and smoke some more meth.

    Brady complains about calls all the time and is a gigantic puss. Never hear any complaining from the board then.

  108. voiceofrealism says: Sep 27, 2011 2:46 PM

    this is football. Vick gets hit on almost every play.
    Really? Play better! You and your line. Maybe you won’t get hit as much. Don’t hang on to the ball so long! Maybe you won’t get hit so much. Better yet, quit, you whiny low life POS. Then you won’t get hit so much.

  109. nesuperfan says: Sep 27, 2011 2:46 PM

    osmocosmo says:Sep 27, 2011 1:19 PM

    Vick has taken 47 hits in three games, most of them in the pocket.
    __________________________________

    And since when is it illegal to hit a QB?? Blame his O-line.

  110. clavette says: Sep 27, 2011 2:49 PM

    hilarious the only people here that are bashing pereira are idiots with philly or eagles in their username

  111. omnipresentfan says: Sep 27, 2011 2:50 PM

    Pitt Bull Mike…a bunch of Pitt Bulls

  112. steelerfan999 says: Sep 27, 2011 2:55 PM

    PHILADELPHIA DREAM CHEESE

  113. packerjer says: Sep 27, 2011 2:55 PM

    Well this explains everything! It’s just like with the dogfighting. He’s just a product of his upbringing. He didn’t know it was wrong to be a whiny crybaby because that’s the culture in which he was brought up.

  114. stixzidinia says: Sep 27, 2011 3:01 PM

    Mike P is still on the NFL payroll…..still footing the company line without exception. Anybody who can’t see that is a moron.

  115. phan4life says: Sep 27, 2011 3:02 PM

    I love how the argument is “Sure they missed a few calls on Vick, but they also missed penalties on other players”

    You may not like Vick, but he is right. They are letting the other teams get away with numerous late hits. He is frustrated and, as a result, spoke out. Pereira is an aged, lazy fat nobody.

  116. Mr. Wright 212 says: Sep 27, 2011 3:04 PM

    Brady definitely whines more than anyone.

  117. Mr. Wright 212 says: Sep 27, 2011 3:08 PM

    alaricsrevenge says: Sep 27, 2011 2:07 PM

    Wouldn’t it be great if he came out and said who the other 6 teams were that complained more than the Eagles… and it was your team.
    ———-

    Pretty sure the top six teams are the Steelers, Patriots, Cowboys, Colts, Bolts (as they have constantly vocalized their complaints over the past 5-6 years) and most likely the Redskins or Packers as the teams that allegedly complained more than the Eagles.

    Pretty sure the Giants would be in the bottom three, as relates to fewest complaints.

  118. luvwitten says: Sep 27, 2011 3:09 PM

    pecophilly says:Sep 27, 2011 1:39 PM

    I LOVE THESE COMMENTS!

    Just more fuel to add to the fire when the Eagles right the ship and make another run at the Lombardi while the Skins/Cowboys/Giants are all sitting home watching on TV!

    But hey, it’s ok. You’ve won past superbowls.

    You know who talks about the past?
    PRESENT DAY LOSERS!!!!!!!

    Last I checked, in PRESENT DAY, the eagles sit at the bottom of the division.

  119. Ralphie says: Sep 27, 2011 3:17 PM

    juiceboxsupply says:
    Sep 27, 2011 1:55 PM
    Anyone see the Pats hit Fitzpatrick after taking a knee like three times in a row? Kind of off topic, but why was that allowed?
    __________________________

    Because they never hit Fitzpatrick 3 times in a row, They only hit him once – on 2nd and goal, not on 1st and 3rd downs when he legitimately took a knee. If you watched the replay (which NBC showed) even Gannon said he should have been hit because he didn’t go down. Fitz drove into the pile, churning his legs on 2nd down and tried to advance the ball when the offense set up like Buffalo was going to take a knee (and Wilfork got a penalty for roughing him on that play). The play was still live until the Ref blew the whistle.

  120. carnboys says: Sep 27, 2011 3:18 PM

    Vick dreams about having a dog again.

  121. theharshestreality says: Sep 27, 2011 3:19 PM

    “They clearly complain more than any other team…” – Yep, that sums it up nicely.

  122. usmutts says: Sep 27, 2011 3:22 PM

    It just seems to me:

    1. “Roughing the passer” penalties have been inconsistently called. Crews can make some improvement on that, but it will never be perfect and that’s just part of the game.

    2. Teams who pass more should, over time, draw more roughing penalties.

    3. Better quarterbacks, with quick releases and the ability to make quick decisions, should, over time, draw fewer roughing penalties.

    4. Quarterbacks who hold onto the ball a long time ( Vick, Roethliesberger ) are going to get smacked. They need to live with it.

  123. essentialsausage says: Sep 27, 2011 3:24 PM

    In fairness to Vick, when has Pereira ever disagreed with whatever the NFL ref decides to do?

  124. myopinionisrighterthanyours says: Sep 27, 2011 3:26 PM

    pecophilly says:Sep 27, 2011 1:39 PM

    Just more fuel to add to the fire when the Eagles right the ship and make another run at the Lombardi

    @picophilly, and just how well have those previous runs at the Lombardi worked for the Eagles??? Shoot, I recall a stretch of years the Eagles couldn’t even get the George Hallas trophy, much less the one named after Vince.

  125. voiceofrealism says: Sep 27, 2011 3:26 PM

    dclogicatlast says:
    Sep 27, 2011 2:39 PM
    I would take the commentary from this message board more seriously if there weren’t so many racists posting here.
    —————————————
    I understand your confusion. Many ignorant people think that if you say something negative about a person, and they happened to be black, it’s racist. Well, it’s not. Educate yourself a little. It can make a big difference in your life.

  126. mhalt99 says: Sep 27, 2011 3:29 PM

    randallcobb:

    I think it may have actually started back with Bill Romanowski when he was with the Broncos. He had been known to make a few late hits on QB’s – some were illegal others were iffy.

    This is when I would say that the NFL really began to change from a running back’s league to a QB’s league. At the time his defense from a few ESPN analysts was that with the offensive plays that had 5 receivers going out for passes this left the QB’s open targets to get their head taken off by a guy like Romo…..instead of letting the game be played the NFL stepped in and put in more protections for the QB.

    No one in the US likes 1-0 four hour soccer matches. Opening up the NFL to even more passing opened bigger offensive plays and defensive int’s. The NFL has made numerous rules to open up scoring – just look at the restrictions on DB’s now as compared to 10 years ago. The only thing they ever really stopped offensively was stick-um which was pretty ridiculous.

    oh wait this is a thread having to do with the eagles. i guess i shouldn’t have made a point since all anyone wants to do is say that either the eagles stink or talk about how horrible a human being vick is.

  127. alaricsrevenge says: Sep 27, 2011 3:35 PM

    Mr. Wright 212 says:
    Sep 27, 2011 3:08 PM
    alaricsrevenge says: Sep 27, 2011 2:07 PM

    Wouldn’t it be great if he came out and said who the other 6 teams were that complained more than the Eagles… and it was your team.
    ———-

    Pretty sure the top six teams are the Steelers, Patriots, Cowboys, Colts, Bolts (as they have constantly vocalized their complaints over the past 5-6 years) and most likely the Redskins or Packers as the teams that allegedly complained more than the Eagles.

    Pretty sure the Giants would be in the bottom three, as relates to fewest complaints.

    ————————————————

    Being “pretty sure” and “knowing” are two different things. I don’t know what teams they are and someone should find out and post a link so we can all see.

  128. forthand26 says: Sep 27, 2011 3:36 PM

    Pereira is an old, angry man.

  129. gi141 says: Sep 27, 2011 3:40 PM

    <- Eagles fan, born and raised in Philly burbs.

    I've made a few posts about this, I can't stand the crybaby bs. You win or lose based on your ability to play hard for 4 quarters as a team. Refs called the game fine on Sunday. Vick is turning into a crybaby.

    For the people that want to label Philly fans as crybabies…well, you'll probably keep on doing it. But most of the Philly fans I know are hard core and hate this crap too. And even though we cheer for our hometown team regardless of what they put on the field from one year to the next, we hate this attitude.

    Man up, lose the skirt, play the damn position properly.

  130. kingkreg12 says: Sep 27, 2011 3:41 PM

    I think everyone needs to take a step back and give Vick a break. He was clearly frustrated when he made the statement due to the fact he thought his hand was broken. Furthermore the guy does get bashed quite a bit.

    I understand that he is going to take quite a few more blows than Brady or Brees since he is mobile, but the play he got hurt on is a perfect example of him not getting a flag when other QBs would.

    I also find it pretty amusing that the only 2 QBs Pereira cites are McNabb and Vick… what do those two have in common?

    Brady is constantly complaining to the refs, maybe not to the media, but we see him having little chats every time that he gets hit. I don’t hear anything being said about that…

  131. suckitphilly says: Sep 27, 2011 3:49 PM

    Welcome, everyone, to what we have always known in the NFC East.

    “They clearly complained more than any other team”

    Do NOT blame the Eagles for the Eagles not winning a SB, or winning games, or anything. It is ALWAYS racism, or some magical invisible axe being ground down against their beloved city. That they have lost two games is simply an obvious indicator that the refs are racist dog lovers who hate Philadelphia and it’s citizens.

    LOL! Suck. It. Philly!!! How buying a ring going for you???

  132. scudbot says: Sep 27, 2011 3:58 PM

    “I also find it pretty amusing that the only 2 QBs Pereira cites are McNabb and Vick… what do those two have in common?” The Eagles. That’s what they have in common. Eagles QBs. Since he was talking about the Eagles, you know.

  133. todonnell109 says: Sep 27, 2011 4:00 PM

    44kyle says:
    Sep 27, 2011 1:10 PM

    “When you play in Philly, where life is so dismal, all you can do is complain. People dis Eli, but he’s got class. Never complains or makes excuses.”

    __________________________________

    Are you serious with that comment??!! A Manning never complains, especially Eli?! He may not orally complain to the media, but he clearly does it with his ACTIONS every time he steps on the field. Whenever something goes wrong with the Giants offense, such as a false start or a dropped pass, what the first thing you see Eli do? He throws his hands up and down, and shakes his head with that long, dumb look on his face. He throws his teammates under the bus constantly, and in plain view of them, his coaches and the fans. Don’t try to tell me Eli has class because the way he constantly reacts to mistakes by his teammates is disgraceful.

  134. melikefootball says: Sep 27, 2011 4:02 PM

    We all knew this only Vic and his new found buddy’s of MNF pregame, Carter, Johnson and Jackson don’t.

  135. obamareallysucks says: Sep 27, 2011 4:07 PM

    visk just taking a cue from that worthless whining odumbo!

  136. eaglesfansincecunningham says: Sep 27, 2011 4:13 PM

    Its funny to hear so many arm chair quarterbacks on here
    talk bad about Vick and his complaints. Id love to see one
    Of you take the kind of hits he takes or any NFL QB for that matter
    and see how much you like it. He’s a wus because he’s getting hit at 60mph… Right… Lets see you do that

  137. judsonjr says: Sep 27, 2011 4:23 PM

    Vick learned it from Philly icon Iverson. He just needs to learn AI’s scowl of “someone just peed in my Cheerios” after every call that doesn’t go his way.

  138. aholland00 says: Sep 27, 2011 4:34 PM

    Pereira has been a joke since becoming involved with the broadcast. Of course he’s going to defend the officials and put a slant on it. However, other then the paint he’s stroking to make the Eagles look bad, pick out the most relevant thing he said. THERE ARE MISSED CALLS ! Isn’t that what Vick said ?
    If he’s in the pocket, not running down the sideline, he should get the same calls every QB gets. And if there’s a bad hit on another QB and it’s not flagged, I bet that team is on the phone the 1st thing Monday morning calling the NFL office. We just don”t hear about that, unless of course Pereira goes national with confidential info to defends the officials again !
    Officiating has been getting worse each year, let Pereira find a way to correct it rather then defend it !

  139. jabroni1 says: Sep 27, 2011 4:35 PM

    I’m not an Eagles or Vick fan particularly. I have to say some of those shots Vick took looked alot like leading with the helmet and not the shoulder. Including the one the referee made reference to where he patted his shoulder to Andy Reid. Maybe they can’t see it as well when the guy is running way out of the pocket. Perhaps it doesn’t look as bad from 20 yards off of center. When a guy is standing there in the pocket and takes a shot I am sure it’s easier to flag then a missile running full speed that takes a shot.

  140. carolina1cam says: Sep 27, 2011 4:44 PM

    There’s nothing I love more than when Pereira is on the split screen breaking down the play under review and he says… “this play should be confirmed”… aaaand then comes the head referee… ” the call on the field is reversed”

    Nothing better than the nerd getting it wrong.

  141. howley1 says: Sep 27, 2011 4:45 PM

    Cry, Eagles, cry
    On the road to misery
    Die, Eagles die
    Losing is your destiny
    Kick a dog, Vick is broke
    Curl into a ball and choke!
    Cry, Eagles, cry
    Misery loves company!
    L-O-S-E-R-S LOSERS!

  142. thefirstsmilergrogan says: Sep 27, 2011 4:58 PM

    to make meaning of quantitative statistics of the roughing the passer calls, one should refer to the film and determine how many questionable hits occur to each quarterback; and then the percentage of those that result in a penalty.

    peyton and brady normally deliver quickly; avoiding the questionable hits.

    vick delivers late, thus there are more opportunities for defenders to deliver questionable hits.

    vick’s point- and i think he is right- is that the defenders have been enabled by the reluctance of the referees to call roughing on athletic quarterbacks who the refs collectively long ago seemed to have decided are bringing the roughing on themselves.

    and to the racist who thought it cut to put boy in quotes, you show your ignorance. the only racism in the whole deal is when the refs decision not to protect athletic quarterbacks affected more black quarterbacks than white ones.

  143. gordon322 says: Sep 27, 2011 5:10 PM

    Mike p.is a joke.

  144. illwillthemick says: Sep 27, 2011 5:15 PM

    wait a second, dude just said “yeah some are missed” well there ya go do ur job better dont miss any.. get some more refs out there, they dontb have to be on the field put them on the sidelines… its not rocket science… do ur job better refs… we see calls missed every siongle week… smh.. do ur fing job better…

  145. wferg1121 says: Sep 27, 2011 6:43 PM

    howley1 says:
    Sep 27, 2011 4:45 PM
    “Cry, Eagles, cry
    On the road to misery
    Die, Eagles die
    Losing is your destiny
    Kick a dog, Vick is broke
    Curl into a ball and choke!
    Cry, Eagles, cry
    Misery loves company!
    L-O-S-E-R-S LOSERS!”

    LMAO!! Thats great!

  146. backindasaddle says: Sep 27, 2011 7:15 PM

    It’s an invalid complaint by Vick and the Eagles. He gets pounded more because he puts himself at risk to get pounded more. It’s his playing style and it has always cost him a continuous revolving door of injuries. To blame the refs and say they’re singling out Michael Vick and intentionally not calling roughing the passer penalties on him as in comparison to all other QBs is a really nasty charge and at the same time shows a real victim mentality. Mike….tell us WHY you think the refs are singling you out. That is something I’d really like know.

    Michael Vick just lost whatever slight bit of redemption he may have earned the past two years in my eyes.

  147. meredithnyg says: Sep 27, 2011 7:19 PM

    There’s a reason why this all sounds really familiar.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/12/03/andy-reid-bothered-by-hits-on-michael-vick/

    Looks like this is the Eagles game plan. Can’t believe it only took them until week 3 this season. Some dream team.

  148. backindasaddle says: Sep 27, 2011 7:37 PM

    voiceofrealism says:

    dclogicatlast says:
    I would take the commentary from this message board more seriously if there weren’t so many racists posting here.
    —————————————
    I understand your confusion. Many ignorant people think that if you say something negative about a person, and they happened to be black, it’s racist. Well, it’s not. Educate yourself a little. It can make a big difference in your life.
    ********************************************************************
    I see this constantly.

  149. habsman says: Sep 27, 2011 8:52 PM

    “They clearly complained more than any other team in the league”.

    That just about says it all.

  150. tvell215 says: Sep 27, 2011 8:53 PM

    Vick is a Boss !
    Vick= Better person then about 95% of the people in here. Thats the truth too.

  151. raiderapologist says: Sep 27, 2011 8:58 PM

    The cheapest call I saw Sunday was Jets-Raiders. Campbell bumped arms with a Jets defender that was clearly bailing on his rush after the ball was released. Mike Vick’s whining on the east coast earned Jason Campbell a Get out of the End Zone Free call on the west coast.

  152. omega49 says: Sep 27, 2011 9:27 PM

    Vick should not whined to media, he should have kept that between him and his 100 million contract. But on the other hand if he didn’t I wouldn’t be able to come here and read a bunch post from middle age folks who may have inappropriate relationships with there dogs whine about him whining

  153. jkaflagg says: Sep 27, 2011 10:56 PM

    It’s the coach’s job to complain about this kind of stuff; Reid did plenty of it last year……I think somebody (Dungy ?) may have clued Vick in to how unsympathetic his complaining was being perceived, considering how quickly he backtracked…..

  154. ham1 says: Sep 27, 2011 11:22 PM

    Anybody think Baltimore is in the top six?

  155. xxkrobxx says: Sep 28, 2011 3:27 PM

    “They clearly complained more than any other team.” — Because they clearly get shafted by the refs more than any other team. This guy is not watching the same games the rest of the world watches. They must complain for a reason…not just for the sake of hearing their own voices. Vick was clearly his square in the facemask with the defender’s leading helmet..no call. I remember a call when Trent Cole literally brushed the side of an opposing QB’s helmet with his pinky and was thrown for a 15-yd personal foul. Look at all of the injuries that Cunningham and McNabb had from getting hit late. This is not a new thing. Pereira, you are an idiot.

  156. justwinbb says: Sep 28, 2011 3:31 PM

    “They shouldnt be allowed to touch me, Im on the dream team dammit.”

  157. justwinbb says: Sep 28, 2011 3:35 PM

    eaglesfansincecunningham says:
    Sep 27, 2011 4:13 PM
    Its funny to hear so many arm chair quarterbacks on here
    talk bad about Vick and his complaints. Id love to see one
    Of you take the kind of hits he takes or any NFL QB for that matter
    and see how much you like it. He’s a wus because he’s getting hit at 60mph… Right… Lets see you do that

    I think the opposing team should be allowed to release 11 hungry PITBULLS on his ass. He’s just a crybaby. Maybe if he stayed in the pocket and passed like a normal qb he wouldnt get hurt. The man isnt gonna last the year and when his legs are gone 2 years from now he isnt gonna be any better than Mcnabb is now.

  158. nfceastfan21 says: Sep 28, 2011 7:50 PM

    Pereira stepped down from the NFL office in 2009 so to say the Eagles complained about late hits on Vick every week cannot be true since Vick became the starter in 2010, hence he wouldn’t be privy to this type of knowledge. I doubt the league office shares complaints with him or provide him any other day to day information.

    He should spend more time matching his tie and pocket square instead of providing more horrible, incorrect analysis.

  159. stevevas says: Sep 28, 2011 8:55 PM

    It’s pretty clear by looking at the “like” and “don’t like” numbers, the people responding are not considering the logic of the writers comments. They are simply voting based on whether they like Vick/Eagles.

  160. vickspreadherpes says: Sep 28, 2011 9:39 PM

    @nfceastfan21

    He said ” and it was a constant complaint by the Eagles, whether it was [Donovan] McNabb at quarterback or whether it was Vick. They clearly complained more than any other team.”

    Vick played in the wildcat offense in 2009 & he clearly mentions Donovan as well. Do you know for sure the Eagles didn’t complain about any hits or plays where Vick was in the wildcat formation?

    Didn’t think so…

    It seems some see & read through rose colored glasses when protecting & defending the great Mike Vick.

  161. bittersportspills says: Sep 29, 2011 12:52 AM

    Too funny. I hear the people here trashing Mike Vick, yet I’d bet they’re complaining like crazy when they get a call against their team. Hypocrites.

    Anyway, I’ve never understood why officials in any sport are beyond criticism…especially when their calls are totally subjective. We all know there’s holding on every play, but what makes a hold that gets called so bad it has to be called?

  162. bleedeaglegreen says: Sep 29, 2011 9:31 AM

    “bittersportspills says:
    Sep 29, 2011 12:52 AM
    Too funny. I hear the people here trashing Mike Vick, yet I’d bet they’re complaining like crazy when they get a call against their team. Hypocrites.”
    ——————————————
    What’s too funny is watching Mike Vick fans blindly defending him when what Periera says is so blatantly obvious. When the word hypocrite is looked up in any American dictionary, Mike Vicks picture should be part of the definition.

    Vick complained last December in the same way, he always complains. It is painfully obvious that Vick feels he is special & think the hits most guys take he should be immune to. The answer is to get rid of the ball quicker but instead of working on that, he cries & others side with him based upon whether they like him or not instead of seeing that he is just plain old whining. His complaining, especially when the refs helped him up time after time Sunday is ridiculous, Vick is injury prone & always has been. It’s not the refs responsibility to protect injury prone players. If he really was getting hit late, it would be called. The refs & the NFL do not have an ax to grind with Vick.

    For Vick to keep complaining & crying isn’t going to get him anyplace & to continue to make crazy references to race or past behavior as to why he takes hits is just plain dumb. Get rid of the ball quicker & you’ll take less hits. It’s an easy formula.

  163. nfceastfan21 says: Sep 29, 2011 9:59 AM

    @vickspreadherpes

    My comment was not defending or protecting Vick. Pereira, I believed was making reference to late hits on Mike Vick the QB, not the wildcat runner and was just pointing out he wouldn’t have known about the constant complaints last year as he was not in the league office.

  164. vickspreadherpes says: Sep 29, 2011 10:54 AM

    @nfceastfan21

    No where did it say in his comment he was talking about Vick as a starter. You assumed that was what he was saying.

    You made a comment based upon your observation of Vick not being a starter in 2009 but he did run the wildcat. Periera made comments in reference to both McNabb & Vick based upon his experience in 2009 when he very much was in the league office.

    You said his comments can’t be true. MY point was that he his comments could very well be true based upon both number 5 & number 7 being on the field at various times in ’09. And knowing Reid does in fact have a history of complaining in press conferences & in interviews. So why wouldn’t he do the same with the league?

    So to assume someone is lying based upon who the starter was & forgetting Vick was certainly on the field in 2009 is just as erroneous & irresponsible as you assumed Periera’s statements to be.

  165. timmons94 says: Sep 29, 2011 6:01 PM

    the dream team sucks..

    end of story..Vick is overrated and the new girl with long hair at inside lb is awful..

    and the Flyers won’t win the cup yet again..

    but the Phillies- well they r good

  166. teflonjon says: Sep 30, 2011 8:05 AM

    That whole press conference I was waiting for Vick to say something like “I just don’t see how any decent person could turn a blind eye to such needless pain being inflicted on another living being…” Those refs are just heartless lol

  167. pigeonpea says: Sep 30, 2011 11:25 AM

    dclogicatlast says:
    I would take the commentary from this message board more seriously if there weren’t so many racists posting here.

    True enough, but you have to admit the racist diatribes spouted by Vick’s supporters are comedy gold. I can only assume it is what happens when you thumb your nose at an education and quit school to become a “gangsta”.

  168. deighton95 says: Sep 30, 2011 11:32 AM

    At least everyone knows now why Pereira is the former VP of officiating in the NFL. I change the tv channel every time Fox brings him in on sheer principle.

  169. gimmeabruschi says: Sep 30, 2011 9:52 PM

    Is that the same hand he hung the dogs with?

  170. phillyindubai says: Oct 1, 2011 3:03 AM

    The defensive players know it is open season on Vick. As long as the hit is nor blatant. This is known as The Ref’s “Let’s dog Vick rule.”

  171. necrondi says: Oct 1, 2011 12:01 PM

    eaglesfansincecunningham says: Sep 27, 2011 4:13 PM

    Its funny to hear so many arm chair quarterbacks on here
    talk bad about Vick and his complaints. Id love to see one
    Of you take the kind of hits he takes or any NFL QB for that matter
    and see how much you like it. He’s a wus because he’s getting hit at 60mph… Right… Lets see you do that

    LOLWUT!!!!!!He would literally explode if he got hit by something going 60 mph.

  172. randomjim says: Oct 1, 2011 12:10 PM

    Pereira is full of himself. He used to be a ref & now he is on TV. He MUST be important. What a dick.

  173. weezilgirl says: Oct 2, 2011 11:16 AM

    johnsticle says: Sep 27, 2011 1:23 PM

    Vick needs to grow up and realize not everybody likes him.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    And Vick will never answer a question about that. You are so right. Not everyone likes him and we never will.

    He is a sadist and liar.

    Shame on the Eagles for throwing him the cash. They will really pay for it in the long run.

  174. jgranata81 says: Oct 2, 2011 12:11 PM

    The problem is, I see the officials calling a lot of penalties in favor of Vick today against the Niners. I hope I am wrong, but I now the see the officials in the pockets of the Eagles this week.

  175. silverback9999 says: Oct 3, 2011 11:33 AM

    This just in: Those dogs Vick tortured would like a little extra protection too. Maybe Vick should be put on a rape stand and slammed to the ground like those dogs…oh wait the Giants actually did those things to him. lmao

  176. n0hopeleft says: Oct 4, 2011 3:37 PM

    gi141 says:
    Sep 27, 2011 3:40 PM
    <- Eagles fan, born and raised in Philly burbs.

    I've made a few posts about this, I can't stand the crybaby bs. You win or lose based on your ability to play hard for 4 quarters as a team. Refs called the game fine on Sunday. Vick is turning into a crybaby.

    For the people that want to label Philly fans as crybabies…well, you'll probably keep on doing it. But most of the Philly fans I know are hard core and hate this crap too. And even though we cheer for our hometown team regardless of what they put on the field from one year to the next, we hate this attitude.

    Man up, lose the skirt, play the damn position properly.

    __________________________________

    Your hard core = softer than Roseann's son.

    And when you come to Giants stadium this year, we will show you exactly what Im talking about bitch.

    The EMPTY TROPHY CASE CLAN is trying to save face on this post.

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