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Donovan McNabb not concerned about his mechanics

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Coaches have identified some mechanical issues with Donovan McNabb they hope to get corrected.  McNabb doesn’t seem overly interested. He was asked if he saw anything on tape he needs to change.

“No,” McNabb said via Tom Pelissero of espn1500.cm. “I think the thing about it, just when you’re critical of yourself and your play, you just look at your reads, you look at how fast you can get the ball out. I think obviously footwork and things like that, but that’s not just my position — that’s from everyone.

“As a quarterback, when you’re watching yourself, you’re going through everything. It’s not just mechanics. It’s ball placement, it’s ‘is it the right read,’ things like that.”

Pelissero charted 10 uncatchable passes from McNabb last week.  Vikings coach Leslie Frazier said that the staff wants McNabb to work on his release point, taking the right drops, and cleaning up his footwork.

“Some throws you just miss,” McNabb explain.

You get the sense that McNabb often only trusts McNabb to fix what’s been going wrong.

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  1. h3min1230 says: Sep 29, 2011 12:29 PM

    So he doesnt panic after starting being 0-3, he doesnt mind changing his mechanics, so what good is he?

  2. bdawk20 says: Sep 29, 2011 12:30 PM

    FRA-JEEL-AY! MUST BE ITALIAN!

  3. dannymac17 says: Sep 29, 2011 12:31 PM

    He should be worried about being benched.

  4. 7thlombardiontheway says: Sep 29, 2011 12:31 PM

    If the number of the 6-itself is not greater than that of the 5, this is surprising; and if it is greater, clearly there is also a number in it equal to the 5, so that this is not different from the 5-itself. But this is not possible, if there is a first and a second number.

    Nor will the Ideas be numbers. For in this particular point they are right who claim that the units must be different, if there are to be Ideas; as has been said before. For the Form is unique; but if the units are not different, the 5’s and the 6’s also will not be different. This is also the reason why they must say that when we count thus—’5,6’—we do not proceed by adding to the given number; for if we do, neither will the numbers be generated from the indefinite dyad, nor can a number be an Idea; for then one Idea will be in another, and all Forms will be parts of one Form. And so with a view to their hypothesis their statements are right, but as a whole they are wrong; for their view is very destructive, since they will admit that this question itself affords some difficulty—whether, when we count and say —1,2,3—we count by addition or by separate portions. But we do both; and so it is absurd to reason back from this problem to so great a difference of essence.

    Thus we see the Steelers’ ARE superiority

  5. jebdamone says: Sep 29, 2011 12:31 PM

    of course he’s not…mcfatt doesn’t care about anything.

  6. vikingdoode says: Sep 29, 2011 12:31 PM

    lol we all are in Minnesota are… enjoy the bench McChubb

  7. Carl Gerbschmidt says: Sep 29, 2011 12:31 PM

    “Some throws you just miss,” McNabb said.

    _____

    Some, Most, All, whatever…

    they couldn’t have picked a worse QB to be the face of the franchise during these sensitive times.

  8. bobnelsonjr says: Sep 29, 2011 12:31 PM

    Keep going the way you are Donovan. You are making many fans happy across the nation.

  9. fatgraycat says: Sep 29, 2011 12:32 PM

    Been in the league 12 – 13 years and were still talking about mechanics issues?? Time to move on Vikings.

  10. kliplee says: Sep 29, 2011 12:33 PM

    uncoachable anyone?

  11. The Phantom Stranger says: Sep 29, 2011 12:34 PM

    Why should he worry about his mechanics? It doesn’t matter how well you throw when you’re on the bench.

  12. jw731 says: Sep 29, 2011 12:34 PM

    “Some throws you just miss”
    —————————————
    Yeah, for over a decade…..

  13. The Phantom Stranger says: Sep 29, 2011 12:34 PM

    You know who’s known for his accuracy? Christian Ponder.

  14. tinopuno says: Sep 29, 2011 12:35 PM

    Dumb and stubborn isn’t a good way to go through life!

  15. nrwalk12238 says: Sep 29, 2011 12:36 PM

    PONDER OR WEBB!!!!

  16. The Phantom Stranger says: Sep 29, 2011 12:36 PM

    It isn’t just that he throws so many uncatchable balls, he also throws balls that are caught but aren’t put in the right spot to allow the receiver to run after the catch. Percy Harvin had to fall down to catch a 20-yard pass on Sunday, but if the pass would have hit him in stride it would have been an 80-yard touchdown.

  17. sikoix says: Sep 29, 2011 12:38 PM

    This lack of desire to even pretend he’s taking this seriously (plus the horrible passes) are a large part of why I’m anxious to see what Ponder can do immediately.

  18. twitter:Chapman_Jamie says: Sep 29, 2011 12:39 PM

    I think McNabb’s career or at least his usefulness is over. It’s a shame he is so stubborn and arrogant that he can’t accept recommendations of those around him. What a waste.

  19. Carl Gerbschmidt says: Sep 29, 2011 12:39 PM

    7thlombardiontheway says:
    Sep 29, 2011 12:31 PM
    If the number of the 6-itself is not greater than that of the 5, this is surprising; and if it is greater, clearly there is also a number in it equal to the 5, so that this is not different from the 5-itself. But this is not possible, if there is a first and a second number.

    Nor will the Ideas be numbers. For in this particular point they are right who claim that the units must be different, if there are to be Ideas; as has been said before. For the Form is unique; but if the units are not different, the 5′s and the 6′s also will not be different. This is also the reason why they must say that when we count thus—’5,6′—we do not proceed by adding to the given number; for if we do, neither will the numbers be generated from the indefinite dyad, nor can a number be an Idea; for then one Idea will be in another, and all Forms will be parts of one Form. And so with a view to their hypothesis their statements are right, but as a whole they are wrong; for their view is very destructive, since they will admit that this question itself affords some difficulty—whether, when we count and say —1,2,3—we count by addition or by separate portions. But we do both; and so it is absurd to reason back from this problem to so great a difference of essence.

    Thus we see the Steelers’ ARE superiority

    ______

    You were emaking pretty good sense….up until that last sentence.

  20. nomoreseasontix says: Sep 29, 2011 12:40 PM

    They should concentrate on getting him to recognize the proper orientation of the clipboard and being able to pretend that he understands what’s written on it.

  21. notrelated says: Sep 29, 2011 12:40 PM

    Thumbs up if you thumbs downed 7thlombardiontheway for his wall of text.

  22. prior0knowledge says: Sep 29, 2011 12:40 PM

    Now we see that Reid really is a great coach and we see why the Redskins got rid of him in the middle of the season.

  23. waitingguilty says: Sep 29, 2011 12:40 PM

    Won’t wear a wristband cheat sheet.
    Won’t worry about being winless.
    Won’t accept coaching.

    Will fire grass-blasters at WRs feet.
    Will gain 10 lbs. every offseason.
    Will be out of the league after this season.

    Gee Donovan…it’s hard to understand why you never won a Super Bowl.

  24. phil325 says: Sep 29, 2011 12:41 PM

    Does anyone wonder now why he is no longer with the Eagles or Redskins?

  25. carranomx says: Sep 29, 2011 12:41 PM

    He completely comes across as arrogant and uncoachable.

  26. vikings1mike says: Sep 29, 2011 12:41 PM

    Since this is obviously a throw away season for the Vikings…why in the hell are we still messing with this kid. Besides putting in Ponder and throwing games is just as legitimate as having McTubbo in there throwing games…and then we will know when we have the #1 Draft Pick if we trade it or if we Draft some Luck!!! You all know we need it here in Titl…Winner…Losersville!!!

  27. joetoronto says: Sep 29, 2011 12:41 PM

    “It’s not just mechanics. It’s ball placement, it’s ‘is it the right read,’ things like that.”

    Yup, like all those dirt balls you throw, placed into the dirt.

    Right, Donovan?

  28. worldofwinning says: Sep 29, 2011 12:42 PM

    Of course he doesn’t see anything wrong. He’ll collect a full paycheck and not have to worry about losing vacation time to the playoffs, that’s all he wants.

  29. myspaceyourface says: Sep 29, 2011 12:42 PM

    Rush was right about this guy. . . . Nothing racist about what he said.

    McNabb has never been that accurate or that good. Half the time those teams made it to the NFCC it was a back up the played most of the season to get them there.

  30. countsnail says: Sep 29, 2011 12:43 PM

    Stubborn, washed up, and passive aggressive.

    These are the three words that most aptly describe Donovan McNabb. He hasn’t been good, physically or emotionally, since he tore his ACL in 2006. Heck, Kerry Collins is outplaying him this season.

    See you in Oakland in 2012, Donovan. It may be your only option left.

  31. youboettcha says: Sep 29, 2011 12:43 PM

    Aaron Rodgers was 28-for-38 last week. I bet if you take away balls that were thrown away, he had maybe ONE uncatchable pass.

  32. hank10 says: Sep 29, 2011 12:43 PM

    Once again, McMartyr refuses to take responsibility. Gee, where have we heard that before?

  33. tiktokdok says: Sep 29, 2011 12:44 PM

    McNabb has been over-rated his entire career and never forget, big games make him PUKE!

  34. boiler72 says: Sep 29, 2011 12:45 PM

    Oh well. This is what the Vikings get for partaking in Favre’s EPIC FAIL Ted Revenge War. Serves them right. Meanwhile …

    Thanks Ted, LOL!!!

  35. myopinionisrighterthanyours says: Sep 29, 2011 12:46 PM

    #1 caveat on Donovan, the Eagles let him go to a division rival. Nobody lets anything other than scrubs remain in the divsion.

  36. typicaleaglesfan says: Sep 29, 2011 12:46 PM

    As much as I hate Andy he made this guy look good. Still have a place in my heart for number 5 go birds

  37. davem23 says: Sep 29, 2011 12:46 PM

    He’s wearing a wristband what more do you want?

  38. Soulman45 says: Sep 29, 2011 12:46 PM

    0-3 welcome to Calf. we have something for you to do.

  39. rudegger says: Sep 29, 2011 12:46 PM

    Donovan wasn’t concerned about going 0-2. Donovan is not concerned about his mechanics. Donovan could be set on fire and he won’t be concerned.
    I don’t know about him as a quarterback, but I do know he would be a cool guy to smoke a dube with.

  40. The Phantom Stranger says: Sep 29, 2011 12:47 PM

    Carl Gerbschmidt says:
    Sep 29, 2011 12:31 PM
    “Some throws you just miss,” McNabb said.

    _____

    Some, Most, All, whatever…

    they couldn’t have picked a worse QB to be the face of the franchise during these sensitive times.
    _____________

    Adrian Peterson is the face of the franchise. Donovan McNabb was brought in for one year to ease the transition to Christian Ponder. That year has now become a month. Who is thinking of him as the face of the franchise?

  41. jebdamone says: Sep 29, 2011 12:47 PM

    having gone to the first two Vikings games I can say that television does not do justice to how bad Donovan is. I have not seen more than one or two passes that were remotely good from him and in most instances if a catch is made it’s because the receiver made a good catch. I’m no football guru but even I can see Mcfatt’s footwork and release are terrible. I would absolutely rather have tjack over mcfatt and would go with ponder or Webb over him any day as well.

  42. steamrod says: Sep 29, 2011 12:47 PM

    Changing his mechanics will probably make him worse in the short term but better in the long term. “Some throws you just miss” is a terrible attitude to have. Figure out why you missed and fix it.

  43. willyalistentothis says: Sep 29, 2011 12:48 PM

    Of course he is not concerned. He mailed it in a few years ago and he is just out collecting checks now. Why would he be paying attention to details, making the effort to get better everyday….all those things you see the great QBs do. He does not give a $h!7.

  44. tednguyen73 says: Sep 29, 2011 12:48 PM

    To fix a mistake, one must first acknowledge that they have made one. Can’t teach an old dog new tricks…guess it just wasn’t a Shannahan problem.

  45. billyhoyle4real says: Sep 29, 2011 12:48 PM

    I think his momma stopped heating him up cans of soup before the game a few years back and he hasn’t been right since.

  46. southpaw2k says: Sep 29, 2011 12:49 PM

    Can it finally be said that Rush Limbaugh’s comments about McNabb being overrated were right all along and that they had nothing to do with any kind of racism at all?

  47. nevertola says: Sep 29, 2011 12:51 PM

    He is the same a Culpepper was. Can’t read a defense. Refuses to think that he is part of the problem.

  48. rajbais says: Sep 29, 2011 12:52 PM

    Donovan McNabb doesn’t look like a competitor anymore!!!

    He looks like a guy that’s just “being a part of the team” and cares about his “good guy” image rather than be a fighter. It wouldn’t surprise me if he’s just collecting paychecks to stack up his life savings and waiting for a broadcasting job opportunity. Backups have been getting paid well ever since Marc Bulger got $3.9 million in Baltimore.

    Bill Musgrave has made mistakes as the offensive coordinator, but McNabb lacks Dan Marino and Peyton Manning’s competitive nature and desire to throw the ball. If he’s just taking a roster spot while doing everything he can to pose off a “Mr. Nice Guy” image when he can do something then he shouldn’t be playing!!!

  49. deenice810 says: Sep 29, 2011 12:53 PM

    I don’t think you can do anything about his mechanics after 12 years in the league. What you see is what you get. You would think the Vikings would have known about his flaws before they signed him. That said Leslie Frazier and Musgrave have done a awful job in the second half of all three games. If they lose this week put Ponder in and start rebuilding. As for McNabb it will be time to join all the washed up former NFL stars on ESPN or NFL Network.

  50. adlent says: Sep 29, 2011 12:57 PM

    Have to say as a Redskins fan, this makes me happy.

    I was excited about McNabb when we traded for him and didn’t think he was washed up. However, as the season went on and McNabb played pretty badly, I was willing to blame it on the severe lack of talent we had. We took our lumps from everyone claiming Shanahan didn’t know what he was doing and he didn’t treat McNabb right.

    He got 13 games to show he couldn’t do it. Then he goes to Minnesota and is the same ‘ole McNabb throwing dirt balls.

  51. skolvikes1 says: Sep 29, 2011 12:58 PM

    Aaannnddd this is the reason why Shanahan hated the guy. Perfectly understandable.

  52. 1bigtex says: Sep 29, 2011 12:59 PM

    On the plus side for McNabb, his air guitar skills are top notch.

  53. edmazeing1 says: Sep 29, 2011 1:04 PM

    to SouthPaw2k………Kerry collins is over rated to dnt just single out mcnabb, colts pick this guy over tons of free agents n undrafted QBs & F Rush limpballs tell him to take his fatass to GOLD GYM!!!

  54. sevensixtwonato says: Sep 29, 2011 1:07 PM

    vikings1mike says:
    Sep 29, 2011 12:41 PM
    Since this is obviously a throw away season for the Vikings…why in the hell are we still messing with this kid. Besides putting in Ponder and throwing games is just as legitimate as having McTubbo in there throwing games…and then we will know when we have the #1 Draft Pick if we trade it or if we Draft some Luck!!! You all know we need it here in Titl…Winner…Losersville!!!

    ————————————————–

    They don’t want Ponder Flack-happy thats why they are giving him time.

  55. sj39 says: Sep 29, 2011 1:07 PM

    This clown has always been awful. Rush was right.

  56. jakek2 says: Sep 29, 2011 1:10 PM

    I’m sure people are thinking it so I might as well say it.

    Which QBs have made it known that they are averse to watching film:

    1) McNabb
    2) Vick
    3) Jamarcus Russell
    4) Culpepper
    5) Newton – (only a matter of time before he thinks his skills put him beyond having to watch film)

    What is the direct correlation amongst these players. Is it the stereotypical “laziness” thing?

  57. fuqtard says: Sep 29, 2011 1:11 PM

    McNabb post-Eagles has done more for Andy Reid’s reputation as a QB guru than anything. Would he even have had a career without Reid?

  58. purplekoolaid1 says: Sep 29, 2011 1:13 PM

    I couldn’t have asked for a better QB to be playing for the Vikings right now. He’s horrible and clearly out of shape.

    The franchise danced with the devil (Favre) trying to win a championship and they got burned. Good for them.

  59. steelerdynasty2010 says: Sep 29, 2011 1:19 PM

    I like him less and less everytime he opens his mouth. i agree with everyone who has called him uncoachable…ridiculous

  60. deadmanwalking47 says: Sep 29, 2011 1:24 PM

    Too ignorant to learn and too prideful and stupid to change.i’m so glad we got rid of mcnabb this season in DC! if he would have wanted to learn and get sweet revenge against a team that dumped him after he set all that team’s passing records,he had the perfect chance to last season.if he did’nt change for that,no way he’ll change for anything else!

  61. moochzilla says: Sep 29, 2011 1:25 PM

    How insulting of them to ask McNabb to be a professional and work on his game.

    They better offer him a ‘financial apology’ right now, or he’ll be mad.

    Because McNabb’s so “classy”. Remember? And this is how “classy” people act.

    Suuuuuuuuuuuure they do.

  62. CKL says: Sep 29, 2011 1:27 PM

    I am not one to boo players, but i think it is justified for Mr. Passive aggressive.

  63. moochzilla says: Sep 29, 2011 1:31 PM

    “You get the sense that McNabb often only trusts McNabb to fix what’s been going wrong.”

    He’s essentially the same player he was in year 3 of his career. The same mistakes you see now are the ones you saw then, if not in Syracuse.

    You have to, as Reid did, totally revamp your offense to hide his weaknesses. Mostly, you need to depend on having a RB who can turn a 4 yard pass into a 70 yard sprint. He’s 90% YAC yards in terms of production.

    Adrian Peterson is not Brian Westbrook, no matter how many times McNabb asks him to do all his work for him.

  64. sonvar says: Sep 29, 2011 1:33 PM

    Look I was a fan of McNabb in Philly but he does some mechanic problems. Most of what I recall is just him throwing dirt balls on shorter routes.

    I would say though at this point in his career you’re not likely to get him to change any mechanics. If you don’t like he’s playing this put in Ponder or Webb who can still be developed.

  65. bcjim says: Sep 29, 2011 1:40 PM

    He has shot himself in the foot re:his legacy with his attitude as much as his play the last 2 years.

    I believe Mr and Mr Shanahan are still due some apologies for the grief they (and Redskin fans) took over the was McNubb was “being handled” by the “blundering disrespectful” Shanahans.

    Turns out they were right.

    He is lucky he wasn’t cut midseason last year.

    D@mn you Andy Ried for shystering us.

  66. dcend58 says: Sep 29, 2011 1:41 PM

    He had problems learning the playbook with the Redskins. Refused to wear a wristband with the plays on it. Threw up in the Super Bowl with the Eagles. Lazy. Bet you can muster the strength to endorse the checks.

  67. fwippel says: Sep 29, 2011 1:41 PM

    This is why McNabb is on his third team in three years. Ten uncatchable balls last Sunday, and he doesn’t care to look at it?

    If that’s really the case, then McNabb needs to be cut, not benched. Either way, I’d rather see Webb or Ponder starting. The Vikings have two young QBs with talent. It’s time for them to show what they’ve got, and let the has-beens be has-beens some place else.

  68. smootysmoot says: Sep 29, 2011 1:48 PM

    McDouche is a huge joke and I can’t believe he is worth putting in any thread or headline. Bench him and then force him out if the League!

  69. fargovikesfan says: Sep 29, 2011 1:49 PM

    just remember Vikings fans, Brad Childress was the Offensive Coordinator with the Eagles and the “QB Guru” that taught McNabb how to be an NFL QB.

    That tells us all we need to know right there. Bring on Ponder!

  70. mrcosio says: Sep 29, 2011 1:54 PM

    The Phantom Stranger says:
    Sep 29, 2011 12:34 PM
    You know who’s known for his accuracy? Christian Ponder.

    ———————————————————

    omg nobody better like or dislike this comment anymore because it has 77 likes and 7 dislikes

    creepy coincidence?

  71. fargovikesfan says: Sep 29, 2011 1:55 PM

    Having Favre the last two years has nothing to do with having McNabb now. The reason we didn’t have a QB of the future in waiting was the insistence of Childress to create something out of the lump of clay (or some other brown substance) that is Tarvaris Jackson. We could’ve had someone ready this year that could have stepped in and used our 1st round pick on a WR or LT instead of having to use it on a QB.

  72. rudegger says: Sep 29, 2011 1:58 PM

    @jakek2 take off your white hood dude. Remember Warren Moon who went to the CFL because no one wanted to start a black QB in the NFL? What about Willie Totten? Same thing, he had to go to the CFL because there were too many Rush Limbaugh’s in football….and there still are.

    A black QB will only start if he is mobile. The terrible fact is young black athletes will see this and think this is how they too should play the game.

    There are more White QB failures than Black QB failures in the NFL, just like there are more White QB successes than there are Black QB successes. Why? Because, still, White QB’s are given more opportunity. Explain Tim Tebow.

    What Rush Limbaugh said wasn’t just about McNabb, but Black QBs in general. And then he goes on MNF?
    Tom Jackson, Cris Carter, and Keyshawn, say what you want about them, but I am sure there is a valid reason why they declared that they will fight Mike Vick’s fight for him.

  73. steelerdynasty2010 says: Sep 29, 2011 2:00 PM

    @jakek2

    I can only assume you were attempting a backhanded racial comment here “What is the direct correlation amongst these players. Is it the stereotypical “laziness” thing?”

    michael vick now credits his film study for his current success. dont recall newton saying he’s averse to watching film (as your parenthetical also suggests). mcnabb and russell i’ll give you. not sure about culpepper either, but i’d believe it.

  74. neilanblomi says: Sep 29, 2011 2:03 PM

    What eagles fans were nationally mocked for knowing in 2007(post Garcia) has now just become fact.

  75. theharshestreality says: Sep 29, 2011 2:05 PM

    Why the hell would he care about mechanics? Playbook, weak offensive line, lack of a running game, poor coaching – yes, he should be concerned about that. Mechanics – kinda stupid to even be asking that question.

  76. dukemarc says: Sep 29, 2011 2:08 PM

    Donovan McNabb not concerned about his mechanics
    —————————————–

    Has he ever been?

  77. eaglessuperfan says: Sep 29, 2011 2:10 PM

    Why does he not realize that he just can’t play anymore. He used to make amazing plays rolling out or running around in the backfield. He never made plays because he made good reads.

  78. jimmysee says: Sep 29, 2011 2:13 PM

    Totally a guy going through the motions — collecting a paycheck.

    The Vikings deserve better.
    :-(

  79. therealsmiley says: Sep 29, 2011 2:18 PM

    FRA-JEEL-AY! MUST BE ITALIAN!

    No..it must be French!!!

  80. johnnyoclock says: Sep 29, 2011 2:24 PM

    Hello Minnesota, welcome to Philly NFL football in the 2000-s. We feel your pain.

    At least you don’t have to put up with “Minnesota fans are just stupid, and probably a lil unknowingly racist”. So at least that’s a positive.

    The worst part is, most sportswriters won’t have the courage to keep him out of the hall of fame when his time comes.

  81. 00reo says: Sep 29, 2011 2:24 PM

    You get the sense that McNabb just doesn’t care.

  82. jakek2 says: Sep 29, 2011 2:27 PM

    rudegger and steelerdynasty –

    Please understand that I did not make the racial comment because I am a racist. However, the fact is that you only hear about black QBs not watching film. The stereotype is that blacks are lazy. McNabb, Vick, Russell and Culpepper aren’t film watchers. Why? Is the stereotype true?? I think that this is an interesting debate.

    I know Vick made up some nonsense that teams game plan him different so there was no reason to watch but I have heard plenty of times that Peyton Manning would study which way CBs toes were pointed in order to find out whether they were blitzing, jamming or giving a cushion. Therefore, NO QBs, black or white, getting paid what they do, have a reason NOT to watch film.

    So, the question remains, why is it that we only hear about black QBs not watching film? Nobody likes watching film, that much is clear.

    Anyway, apologies if I offended you (or anyone else) with this touchy issue.

  83. dontbesonegative says: Sep 29, 2011 2:28 PM

    The Phantom Stranger says:
    Sep 29, 2011 12:34 PM
    You know who’s known for his accuracy? Christian Ponder.

    ______

    Also, he can achieve 50 degrees of lateral separation in onlye 2 steps while two blinking red lights are coming at him…

  84. moochzilla says: Sep 29, 2011 2:35 PM

    jakek2,

    You are racist.

    Ryan Leaf wasn’t black.

  85. moochzilla says: Sep 29, 2011 2:37 PM

    JAke2,

    Didn’t realize than Jim Druckenmiller was black.

    Or Cade McNown.

    Or Matt Jones.

  86. cusoman says: Sep 29, 2011 2:42 PM

    myopinionisrighterthanyours says:
    Sep 29, 2011 12:46 PM
    #1 caveat on Donovan, the Eagles let him go to a division rival. Nobody lets anything other than scrubs remain in the divsion.

    —————

    Truth. I mean, just look at Bernard Berrian.

  87. moochzilla says: Sep 29, 2011 2:44 PM

    Jakeyk2 just demanded to see Mark Sanchez’ green card!

    He wonders if Ryan Fitzpatrick isn’t a drunk!

  88. 4gone says: Sep 29, 2011 2:44 PM

    My wristband says it is time to Ponder Christian.

  89. skinsrock says: Sep 29, 2011 2:48 PM

    After 2 seasons of really seeing who Donovan is now … He is a lazy athlete who is so stubborn… He won’t take anybody’s direction… Wouldn’t wear an armband when he couldn’t remember the formations last year & now his excuses all the time… “oh you just miss them” … he has accepted his failures & his window closed 3 years ago.

  90. neer music says: Sep 29, 2011 2:49 PM

    mcphail isn’t helping the squad!

    hopefully ponder is taking notes, learning what to do, and what NOT to do!!

  91. fcs34 says: Sep 29, 2011 2:53 PM

    Must be nice. a good, honest mechanic is hard to find. M

  92. fcs34 says: Sep 29, 2011 2:54 PM

    Must be nice. a good, honest mechanic is hard to find.

  93. The Phantom Stranger says: Sep 29, 2011 2:54 PM

    dontbesonegative says:
    Sep 29, 2011 2:28 PM
    The Phantom Stranger says:
    Sep 29, 2011 12:34 PM
    You know who’s known for his accuracy? Christian Ponder.

    ______

    Also, he can achieve 50 degrees of lateral separation in onlye 2 steps while two blinking red lights are coming at him…
    _________

    Carl?

  94. rudegger says: Sep 29, 2011 2:54 PM

    @jakek2
    You didn’t offend me dude. I didn’t get on the phone with my congressman after I read your post or anything like that. I just didn’t think it was a very informed comment you made. PFT just ran a story about how Warren Moon is so impressed with Cam Newton…one for the reasons why he was impressed was Cam studied a lot of film and was totally committed to becoming the best player he could be. And I hope Cam keeps it up. I didn’t like his swagger out of college. My perception of him is I thought he was one of those players who thinks he is entitled. But I don’t think that’s the case. Michael Irvin, when he played, rubbed me the same way. However no one ever outworked Michael Irvin.
    Anyway you didn’t offend me.

  95. rajbais says: Sep 29, 2011 2:58 PM

    McNabb had too many “benign” enablers.

    When I say that, I talk about how idiots like Mike Wilbon and Skip (yuck) Bayless keep telling him that there is nothing wrong with him and that he went through “so much” trauma because 7 people publicly spoke negatively about him!!!

    McNabb never went through a terminal illness like cancer and if stupid idiots in the media like Bayless and Wilbon keep telling him WAY more good things than he deserves than he will have no desire to get better and fight as often as possible!!!

    He never went through the things that Mark Fields and Mark Herzlich went through. Those two fought back a lot better than McNabb ever did to get back on the field because they faced death. But, with the unethical media it will show you why the team is doing McNabb a disservice. I wouldn’t be surprised if McNabb was lazy in Washington. His first three games as a Redskin in 2010 are being outdone by Rex Grossmann’s first three in 2011. Check the win-loss record and stats!!!

  96. cannonballdookie says: Sep 29, 2011 2:59 PM

    He’s never concerned about anything, which is why they should stick a fork in him very soon. It’s been a nice run DMac but it’s time to enjoy retirement.

  97. tiktokdok says: Sep 29, 2011 3:00 PM

    rudegger says:

    “What Rush Limbaugh said wasn’t just about McNabb, but Black QBs in general.”

    ———————————————————

    Limbaugh’s quote on ESPN…………… Oct 1, 2003

    “Sorry to say this, I don’t think he’s been that good from the get-go,” Limbaugh said. “I think what we’ve had here is a little social concern in the NFL. The media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well. There is a little hope invested in McNabb, and he got a lot of credit for the performance of this team that he didn’t deserve. The defense carried this team.”

  98. visible4 says: Sep 29, 2011 3:03 PM

    The Vikings are a disaster. In today’s NFL you have to develop your young talent quickly. Their is no point in having McNabb as a starting QB. That is just bad coaching. Your team is in a rebuilding stage, the drafting has been terrible for 3 years, the least they could do is see if Ponder is the future and work on developing him.

  99. vikings1mike says: Sep 29, 2011 3:09 PM

    jimmysee says:
    Sep 29, 2011 2:13 PM
    Totally a guy going through the motions — collecting a paycheck.

    The Vikings deserve better.

    I coul not agree more. I had reserved my opinion of the move all the way until Preseason Game #1 when the Clown, formerly known as McNabb, was standing in front of Peterson and a few offensive linemen doing his best Carlton, from Fresh Prince of Bel Air, dance on the sidelines. Wasn’t he brought in to mentor Ponder…come on, this guy is a Clown. Cut him and our Losses NOW…forget about the money. All GREAT quarterbacks are great on the field, but then are able to teach their successor.

  100. jaypace says: Sep 29, 2011 3:11 PM

    But he gives them the best chance to win. (sarcasm bitterly intended)

  101. 4gone says: Sep 29, 2011 3:12 PM

    Say what you want about Favre and the drama, he always gave everything he had and competed to the end.
    McNabb provides all the excitement and intensity of watching paint dry.

    A watched pot never boils, might be time to stop watching.

  102. omnipresentfan says: Sep 29, 2011 3:15 PM

    “Some throws you just miss,” McNabb explain
    ==================================

    “And some”, Mcflabb went on, “you just trow at your receiver’s feet”

  103. jakek2 says: Sep 29, 2011 3:16 PM

    moochzilla –

    Vick, McNabb and Culpepper were/are above average QBs. If you are going to be a smartazz, try naming a white QB that wouldn’t have sucked regardless if he watched film 24/7.

    By the way wiseguy, Leaf admitted to watching plenty of film to try and get better. Nice try though.

  104. rudegger says: Sep 29, 2011 3:23 PM

    exactly tiktokdok

    A social concern for the NFL? A social concern? Like the NFL is a welfare institution for a black QB?
    The media has been very desirous that a black QB do well. Is that the NFL’s version of affirmative action then? What Rush said was more than about McNabb. It was about black QB’s in general.

    exactly tiktokdok, exactly…thanks for the quote.
    I’ll tip you next time.

  105. subzero05 says: Sep 29, 2011 3:24 PM

    Ahh it never fails with the McNabb hatr on here. The guy could have no protection with his O-line and still not get a pass.

    The people who crack me up are the ones who bring up Rush Limbaugh. Tell ya what…if you use Limbaugh’s comments as a criticism of McNabb..You ARE..I repeat…ARE a racist. Limbaugh could have simply said he’s overrated(and there are plenty of overrated quarterbacks). But he brought race into it..which is biased and is racist. McNabb is a Quarterback 1st..not just a black Quarterback. Just an fyi for the closet racially obsessed

    McNabb also has a better td to int ratio…playoff success, wins, rushing yards, and has gotten farther than only a handful of QBs. That doesn’t make him the greatest..and he is flawed…but he got as far as he has based on his strengths

  106. omnipresentfan says: Sep 29, 2011 3:29 PM

    “jakek2 says: Sep 29, 2011 1:10 PM

    I’m sure people are thinking it so I might as well say it.

    Which QBs have made it known that they are averse to watching film:

    1) McNabb
    2) Vick
    3) Jamarcus Russell
    4) Culpepper
    5) Newton – (only a matter of time before he thinks his skills put him beyond having to watch film)

    What is the direct correlation amongst these players. Is it the stereotypical “laziness” thing?

    ============================================

    Dude! here, we talk about football and make comments/fun of players and teams we don’t like, just for the heck of it. Picking out every black QBs including, impressive rookie Newton who’s good for the game, to express your discriminatory nonsense towards certain ethnic group is not funny at all…it’s repulsive.

    Remember the majority of the athletes are blacks in football. Most of us here love football and are fans of these guys as well.

    I suggest you take your tea party extremism nonsense somewhere else, like foxnews.com. You’re off limit here.

  107. krashie21 says: Sep 29, 2011 3:29 PM

    Was Fran Tarkenton Minny’s last franchise quarterback????

    What a complete mess that’s been going on decades.

    Worst fans, worst personnel and some of the worst on-field plays of all time.

    Vi-Queen fans deserve what they get.

  108. rudegger says: Sep 29, 2011 3:31 PM

    @subzeroo5
    I agree about your take on Rush completely.

    However your hanging ‘em low with all these McNabb haters on here with your comments.
    respect

  109. nannymcsack says: Sep 29, 2011 3:35 PM

    “mechanics!? the escalade runs just fine coach. it’s under warranty anyway”

  110. brintfatre says: Sep 29, 2011 3:48 PM

    His play is absolutely Favre-like! The transition was seamless!!!

  111. rexismybff says: Sep 29, 2011 3:58 PM

    In other news, Haynesworth said he isn’t concerned about his fat, and that it probably had nothing to do with having only 2 tackles this year, and 16 all of last year.

  112. dikshuttle says: Sep 29, 2011 3:58 PM

    How is this NOT a scandal?!! [snark]

    Seriously. It’s deja vu all over agin’ per the Iggles & Skins.

    At least MShan gave him a chance to step right. (I’m not implying the Viks aren’t).

    Does anyone want to apologize to Rush now? I don’t.

  113. dallasux says: Sep 29, 2011 4:02 PM

    SSOOOOO glad hes out of Philly. That dude just doesnt have it

  114. xx4zu1 says: Sep 29, 2011 4:05 PM

    Been saying that for years even when he was a philly the reason his INT’s were so low was because the passes we either in the dirt, the stands, or just barely caught by the receiver.

  115. broncobillie says: Sep 29, 2011 4:11 PM

    Agreed on all those comments saying McNabb is suddenly making Reid and the Shanahans look lije geniuses. Hmmm… does that also vindicate T.O.? Not saying, just asking…

  116. whatswiththehate says: Sep 29, 2011 4:12 PM

    Why are we questioning donovan and not Sam Bradford or any of the other 0-3 QBs mechanics? So sick of the more than Obvious biases that are used to control the masses.

  117. granadafan says: Sep 29, 2011 4:13 PM

    “brintfatre says:
    Sep 29, 2011 3:48 PM
    His play is absolutely Favre-like! The transition was seamless!!!”
    ————————————————————————————————–

    I see what you did there. Good one.

    McNabb is karma for the Vikings inflicting the Favre clown circus on the rest of the league the past two years.

  118. catdelmonte says: Sep 29, 2011 4:15 PM

    well at least he doesnt need to worry about his car getting fixed correctly because hes got alot of other problems to deal with right now

  119. jimmysee says: Sep 29, 2011 4:16 PM

    He’s a stiff at the end of his career going through the motions (not too well) and collecting a big paycheck.

    Kind of like the Rolling Stones or the Who.

  120. thefirstsmilergrogan says: Sep 29, 2011 4:16 PM

    rush is still a racist. mcnabb is still dumb. the two things aren’t mutually exclusive. mcnabb isn’t dumb because of his ethnicity, but because he refused to work to take advantage of his great talents.

    now everyone gets what the fans in philadelphia came to understand after a couple years. rather than work like a madman to improve, don was happy with how he was. we all couldn’t wait for him to start thowing grounders for someone else. but as the phantom stranger points out, the worst thing is that the throws that are completed (with the exception of the over the top deep ball) are not thrown to a spot to allow the receiver to gain the yardage the play was designed to make.

    don’t get me wrong. don has/had tons of talent. some of the games and plays were beyond memorable. but football is a survival game that rewards consistency. that comes from hard work. and that isn’t don’s idea of what is required to earn that multimillion dollar contract.

  121. skins23 says: Sep 29, 2011 4:29 PM

    Thanks again for the draft picks, Vikes.

  122. mancave001 says: Sep 29, 2011 4:33 PM

    OK, let this Philly fan and former McNabb fan educate you Minnesooooota peeps. :)

    1. McNabb is the most oversensitive, insecure player in the NFL.

    2. McNabb started to suck when he became convinced (either through our coaches or his ego or both) that he should be a pocket passer and only use his legs as a last resort.

    3. McNabb seems to treat his job as nothing but a game. He never demonstrates heart, because in the end it’s just a game to him. It’s one reason Philly has embraced Vick despite his past and despite his flaws as a player…the guy HATES losing and will do everything possible to win. It eats him up to lose, just like it does for the fans. Not so with #5.

    4. The proper nickname for McNabb is either “McNutts” or “McChoke.” It’s in the Constitution.

    5. You’d hate his press conferences just as much if you were 3-0.

    6. McNabb acts and speaks like a coach. He always puts his team below him when he speaks.

    I’ll pause class for now. It may resume shortly….

  123. jnks10 says: Sep 29, 2011 4:35 PM

    skins23 says:
    Sep 29, 2011 4:29 PM
    Thanks again for the draft picks, Vikes.

    ————

    Thanks again for 2nd round draft pick, skins

  124. Waxxx4321 says: Sep 29, 2011 4:48 PM

    Thats why i call him MCNAW…….

  125. eaglelover1 says: Sep 29, 2011 5:12 PM

    Wow, How soon we forget……

    To all those so called Eagles fans ripping Mcnabb now that he is no longer on the team I might remind you of a few things after I list a few things wrong with Mcnabbs game…..

    Mcnabb is inaccurate when he does not trust his WR’s. Only 3 years in his career has he had any resemblence of talent at wide out and those years he was well above 60% in completion ratio.

    Once Mcnabb stopped running he was doomed. The play of that offensive line in Philly has not been good since 2004.

    Mcnabb does not seem to care if he wins or loses his attitude toward the game has always been lackluster. He has never played with a chip on his shoulder except for when his was publically challenged as a running QB.

    Now for some of the things you all seem to forget….

    WIDE RECIEVERS. Each time the man was given WR he shined. 2004, 2008, hell even 2009 he set franchise records for points scored breaking the previous mark set the year before.

    Lack of a true running game. (uh Vikings fans your OC is garbage). Philly never had a true running game not because of talent because of coaching and playcalling.

    5 Conference Championship games. Only one other CURRENT QB can lay claim to that (Tom Brady) Not Brees, Mannings, Rivers, Rodgers, Grossman, or Palmer.

    Limburger stated the defense lead the team to all those wins but the Eagles offense was top 12 in yards and points every year Mcnabb played 14 or more games. ( several of the years he didn’t play entire seasons was because of the very thing Vick complained about a few days ago but, that is another story for another thread).

    Young, Aikman, Warner (who was just awful with the Giants), Eli Manning, and a host of other QB were crap when they played with no talent on the outside yet, Mcnabb and any other QB is supposed to turn water to wine when it comes to playing the QB position.

    As someone else said there are far more failures at QB who are white than there are black even the percentage for failure for white QB’s is greater than a black QB but, the racist like Jake come to spew that hate thinking noone will call them on it.

    I for one am glad to have had Mcnabb as QB of the Eagles. He has given Philly fans far more great memories than bad ones. That’s all I have to say so go ahead and thumb it down.

  126. dtrb10 says: Sep 29, 2011 5:14 PM

    Q the hillbillies!!! McNabb sucks, front office sucks this is true. God I remember a couple of years ago. Ted Thompson was the worst human being on the face of the earth and now he is God in hillbilly land!!

  127. fwippel says: Sep 29, 2011 5:22 PM

    Was Fran Tarkenton Minny’s last franchise quarterback????

    ****************************************

    Yes, and unfortunately, there’s not even a close second. Of the top 50 Vikings of all time, Tarkenton was the only QB worthy of being in that list.

    Culpepper was chosen, but shouldn’t have been; he only had three good years as the team’s starter (2000, 2003, 2004), and the other years he was a human turnover machine.

    McNabb needs to go if he doesn’t care enough to improve his performance on the field. The rest of the veterans on this team deserve better than this.

    Personally, I’d rather see Joe Webb start until our OL gets better, because Ponder will get hurt otherwise. Besides, I think Webb may surprise some people if he gets a chance to play. He certainly surprised Philly last year.

  128. theripster30 says: Sep 29, 2011 5:37 PM

    I have no sympathy for the queens. This is a franchise who goes after free agents and high risk players over the age of 30 year after year, after year. Success takes time and patience. A team builds together, and succeeds together. It’s beyond me how they never seem to learn. Then again, this is a franchise who couldn’t sell out a playoff game 3 years ago without practically giving tickets away minutes before kickoff (T Jack started that day). Viking ‘fans’ aren’t supportive, so they bring in players to sell tickets, putting winning second. The threat of leaving is real, they don’t have three to five years in MN to start over. They need to win now to get the people to sign on for a stadium. Ultimately, it will just open the door to more bad decisions being made by a franchise who is already considered the laughing stock of the NFL by many. This is the price you pay when you risk it all for a one year window at that ring.

  129. shaggytoodle says: Sep 29, 2011 6:13 PM

    No concern no 0-2 panic, that guy is cool as the other side of the pillow.

  130. shaggytoodle says: Sep 29, 2011 6:14 PM

    No concern no 0-2 panic, that guy is cool as the other side of the pillow.

    he is right though his mechanics didn’t blow a 20 point lead.

  131. The Phantom Stranger says: Sep 29, 2011 6:27 PM

    omnipresentfan says:
    Sep 29, 2011 3:29 PM
    “jakek2 says: Sep 29, 2011 1:10 PM

    I’m sure people are thinking it so I might as well say it.

    Which QBs have made it known that they are averse to watching film:

    1) McNabb
    2) Vick
    3) Jamarcus Russell
    4) Culpepper
    5) Newton – (only a matter of time before he thinks his skills put him beyond having to watch film)

    What is the direct correlation amongst these players. Is it the stereotypical “laziness” thing?

    ============================================

    Dude! here, we talk about football and make comments/fun of players and teams we don’t like, just for the heck of it. Picking out every black QBs including, impressive rookie Newton who’s good for the game, to express your discriminatory nonsense towards certain ethnic group is not funny at all…it’s repulsive.

    Remember the majority of the athletes are blacks in football. Most of us here love football and are fans of these guys as well.

    I suggest you take your tea party extremism nonsense somewhere else, like foxnews.com. You’re off limit here.
    ______________

    So it’s repulsive to express discriminatory nonsense towards certain ethnic groups but it’s just fine for you to express discriminatory nonsense about another group of people, namely tea party members. You’re no better than jakek2.

  132. december77 says: Sep 29, 2011 6:48 PM

    fuqtard says:Sep 29, 2011 1:11 PM

    McNabb post-Eagles has done more for Andy Reid’s reputation as a QB guru than anything. Would he even have had a career without Reid?
    ================================

    Without Reid, McNabb would have been Akili Smith.

  133. saturn1111 says: Sep 29, 2011 7:05 PM

    Dear rest of the NFL,

    Now do we see what we were griping about?

    Hope so,

    Eagles fans who hated McNabb.

  134. laserw says: Sep 29, 2011 7:54 PM

    Donovan McNubb is like expecting to complete a cruise on a ship named “Titanic”.

    Christian Ponder is like putting a fully operable ship into waters prowled by Nazi U-Boats.

    Which ship has the greatest chance of completing the voyage?

    Nothing you do with McNubb will make him a winner. He is arrogant, lazy, stupid, and unwilling to improve.

    Christian Ponder has yet to show you what you can do. But you do know that in a competition with McNubb, Ponder will complete 9 of the 10 passes that McNubb routinely throws into the turf.

    If the Vikings honestly think McNubb can win a football game, then they are the worst team on the planet. Remember how the Redskins were MOCKED for pointing out McNubb’s mechanic issues? Looks like the NFL owes Shanny and Son an apology.

  135. moochzilla says: Sep 29, 2011 9:53 PM

    “Agreed on all those comments saying McNabb is suddenly making Reid and the Shanahans look lije geniuses. Hmmm… does that also vindicate T.O.? Not saying, just asking…”

    Ah. At last.

    Thank you.

    Signed,

    An Eagle fan who had his Super Bowl parade taken away because his diva QB couldn’t handle the city loving the star WR more than him.

  136. moochzilla says: Sep 29, 2011 9:58 PM

    Jake2, this is why you are a racist.

    You INVENT a narrative about black QB’s not watching film.

    Then you NOTE that black QB’s don’t watch film.

    Then you look to make a connection between your MADE UP story about a set of people not watching film, and slyly note that they’re black.

    You fabricated it based ON YOUR PRE-CONCEIVED NOTION, which is ABSENT ANY SUPPORTING EVIDENCE, that black QB’s are lazy.

    Because you’re a racist. Subconsciously or consciously. Doesn’t really matter.

    Arguing with a nut like you over this would be like arguing with a Holocaust denier. You make up stuff that pays off on your irrational biases and promote it as fact.

    It’s a form of insanity. Now go away, little man.

  137. richm2256 says: Sep 29, 2011 10:57 PM

    myopinionisrighterthanyours says:
    #1 caveat on Donovan, the Eagles let him go to a division rival. Nobody lets anything other than scrubs remain in the divsion.
    —————————————————————-
    New England sent Bledsoe to the Bills …. I’d hardly call him a scrub.

  138. souldogdave says: Sep 30, 2011 12:50 AM

    It sure seems that McNabb is over and can’t compete.The rest is just posturing and posing.

  139. moochzilla says: Sep 30, 2011 7:39 AM

    Last thing on this, Jake2.

    I am an Eagles fan. I lived the McNabb era every day for over a quarter of my time on this earth.

    As you can see, I am not a fan of his. I think he’s not committed to being the best, I think he’s over-rated, and I think he’s a passive aggressive phony of a human being.

    I read the paper every day, I listen to WIP and The Phanatic every day. I scour the internet for Eagles content. This is my team.

    In all that time, one out of my four days on planet earth, I never heard one comment on McNabb not watching film. Ever.

    We heard about the footwork. We heard about the coachability. We saw the martyr act. But film or game prep was never part of the equation. To this day, I think that’s Reid’s fatal flaw…not McNabb’s.

    Again, this is something you invested because it fits a narrative in your mind of lazy black QB’s. Because you clearly view all African Americans as lazy.

    Because you are a racist.

    End of story.

    McNabb doesn’t fix his flaws because he honestly believes he is a top 3 QB and HOF’er. He’s as delusional as you in that respect. Did you miss him saying he’s in Brady’s class?

    You did what Rush did. You made a correct observation (in his that the media loved McNabb too much, in yours that he isn’t 100% committed to his craft) and then incorrectly and bizarrely cite race as the primary factor. In so doing, proving yourself foolish, and racist. Like Rush.

  140. steelerdynasty2010 says: Sep 30, 2011 9:26 AM

    @jakek2:

    FYI, if it’s a stereotype, it’s not universally true, and is probably offensive…even the “good” ones

    Other qbs i’ve heard not watching film are vick and russell. i’ll agree that vick’s old excuse was lame and russell was known to be lazy even in college so he was at least consistent. not sure how that equates to all black qbs, but i cant really say i understand the mentality of racists in the first place. mcnabb’s problems seem to be rooted in his mechanics and footwork so i’m not real sure where you’re getting your “doesnt watch film” argument. maybe it’s an interesting debate at your meetings, but not really for the rest of us civilized people.
    Peyton Manning prepares more than just about everyone out there so you could make that comparison against anyone.

    “So, the question remains, why is it that we only hear about black QBs not watching film?”
    i would suppose it’s the same reason why we only/mostly hear about blacks living in poverty, being incarcerated, abandoning children, etc. because it supports people’s racist views of society. those things happen to people from all walks of life and all races.

    @moochzilla:
    well stated

  141. axespray says: Sep 30, 2011 9:32 AM

    Just play that Ponder kid already….

    Can’t be any worse than 0-3, at least you’d be putting up a fight with a fresh leader/qb.

    and so my packers have a chance at catching those passes intended for Bernard Berrian.

  142. materialman80 says: Oct 1, 2011 7:02 PM

    I hope McNabb saved some of his money and didn’t blow it all like most NFL players because I suspect he will be unemployed shortly.

  143. savannahrose44 says: Oct 4, 2011 4:44 AM

    “Some throws you just miss,”

    And some points you just miss…like the ones your coaches are making…If your coaches are asking you to work on some things and you are now 0-4 maybe it’s time to set your ego aside and listen to them! Maybe…just maybe…they know what they are talking about.

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