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PFT’s Week Four picks

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Last week, Rosenthal’s delivery-room picks nearly matched mine, with the only disagreements coming in the Packers-Bears game and Falcons-Bucs.  He picked the Packers and I picked the Bucs and so we tied for the week at 10-6.

For the season, Rosenthal holds a one-game lead.  He’s 31-17, and I’m 30-18.

This week, Rosenthal can’t rely on the “wife is giving birth” excuse.  But given the time at which his picks came through via email, look for him to play the “baby is awake and crying” card liberally.

Panthers at Bears

Florio’s take:  I’ve picked the Bears to win each week this year.  I felt smart after they beat the Falcons.  I felt like I took a justified risk after they lost to the Saints.  I felt stupid after they lost to the Packers.  I’ve got a feeling I’ll soon feel like an idiot after they lose to the Panthers.  If the Bears don’t win this one, they could be 2-5 at the bye.  That should be reason enough to find a way to outscore a team that remains, for now, inferior to the Bears.

Florio’s pick:  Bears 24, Panthers 13.

Rosenthal’s take: I want to take the Panthers.  I’ve spent a while trying to think of a logical reason why they’ll win, and there isn’t one.  Carolina’s defense is a mess.  Cam Newton hasn’t faced a defense quite like the Bears.  It just feels like bad times are brewing in Chicago and a home loss like this to a feisty young Panthers team is the logical next step.

Rosenthal’s pick: Panthers 23, Bears 20.

Bills at Bengals

Florio’s take:  This feels like a potential correction game, with the Bills drained emotionally after two big come-from-behind wins and looking ahead to a pair of NFC East challenges against the Eagles and Giants.  But the new Bills, if they truly are different from the old Bills, won’t stub their toe against a team they should beat, especially since quarterback Ryan Fitzpatrick used to play for the Bengals.  It also would help to not fall behind by 18 or 21 points.

Florio’s pick:  Bills 31, Bengals 21.

Rosenthal’s take: The next step for the 3-0 Bills:  Win a road game as a heavy favorite.  The next step for the surprisingly ranked No. 3 Bengals defense:  Stop a legitimate offense after three easy matchups. I like Buffalo’s chances better because they can slow down Cincy’s underrated pass rush.

Rosenthal’s pick: Bills 24, Bengals 17.

Titans at Browns

Florio’s take:  Tennessee quarterback Matthew Hasselbeck gets a chance to face his mentor, Mike Holmgren, who knows everything there is to know about Hasselbeck.  And that reminds me of Super Bowl XXXVII, when Bucs coach Jon Gruden used everything he knew about Raiders quarterback Rich Gannon to shut Gannon down.  Though the Big Show likely won’t be jumping under center this week to show the Browns defense what to expect, Holmgren will supply Dick Jauron with everything he needs to know to put the clamps on an offense that suddenly doesn’t have Kenny Britt — and that is still waiting for Chris Johnson to snap out of his funk.

Florio’s pick:  Browns 24, Titans 21.

Rosenthal’s take: The Browns have to prove they aren’t just lucky.  They won two close games against winless teams where they appeared to be outplayed. Tennessee’s defense doesn’t look lucky.  They look rather good, with an emerging secondary.

Rosenthal’s pick: Titans 20, Browns 17.

Lions at Cowboys

Florio’s take:  In 1985, the Bears put the entire football world on notice that their nine-game winning streak wasn’t a fluke by going to Dallas and pounding the Cowboys, 44-0.  In 2011, the Lions can do the same thing with their seven-game winning streak (dating back to last year) by going to Dallas and pounding the Cowboys.  A special season in Detroit gets an early exclamation point.

Florio’s pick:  Lions 34, Cowboys 17.

Rosenthal’s take: The Cowboys are winning games they shouldn’t.  The offensive line is a work in progress, to put it nicely.  The receivers don’t know where to line up.  Rob Ryan’s defense is making strides, but this amateur hour stuff won’t work against the juggernaut undefeated Lions. (How great is it to write “juggernaut undefeated Lions” with only a little sarcasm?)

Rosenthal’s pick: Lions 31, Cowboys 27.

Steelers at Texans

Florio’s take:  The Steelers got lucky in Indianapolis.  They can’t count on luck when visiting a Texans team that needs to stay on the right side of .500 after blowing a chance to beat the Saints on the fifth anniversary of the return to the Superdome.  The offensive line is getting worse, and the Texans’ defensive line is getting better.  At some point, the Steelers may have to sign a couple of off-duty police officers to provide Ben Roethlisberger with on-field security.

Florio’s pick:  Texans 24, Steelers 16.

Rosenthal’s take: There are two options for takeaway after this game:  (1) these Texans are tougher than usual; (2) these are the same old Texans. I’ll roll with the first one because these aren’t the same old Steelers.

Rosenthal’s pick: Texans 24, Steelers 21.

Saints at Jaguars

Florio’s take:  These teams have played four times, with the home team winning every game and the total point differential at two (Saints 100, Jags 98).  But there’s a sizable gap between the two franchises right now, and the blitz-happy Saints will have something special for Blaine Gabbert in his home opener.  Along with an offense that can’t be stopped, as evidenced by a conference-leading 104 points scored.

Florio’s pick:  Saints 34, Jaguars 14.

Rosenthal’s take: This matchup is exactly what Saints defensive coordinator Gregg Williams is looking for:  A confidence booster.  New Orleans will blitz Blaine Gabbert coming off the bus.

Rosenthal’s pick: Saints 30, Jaguars 13.

Vikings at Chiefs

Florio’s take:  0-3 vs. 0-3.  First stop on the Andrew Luck Elimination Tour, where the winner loses and the loser wins.  Look for Jared Allen to return to Kansas City with the kind of inspired play he has demonstrated all year, willing the Vikings to a big lead, that they will then try to blow.  But they’ll succeed this time.  And in succeeding, they’ll fail in the effort to get to the front of the Luck line.

Florio’s pick:  Vikings 28, Chiefs 23.

Rosenthal’s take: The Vikings have found the perfect opponent.  You only need one good half to beat the Chiefs. (Rimshot!)  This is the type of analysis you can come to expect until my daughter starts sleeping through the night.

Rosenthal’s pick: Vikings 21, Chiefs 13.

49ers at Eagles

Florio’s take:  It would be easy (and likely accurate) to assume that the Eagles will dig deep and find a way to avoid falling to 1-3.  But it’s far more fun to envision former Eagles kicker David Akers returning to Philly and making a 50-plus-yard game-winning field goal against a Dream Team that can’t seem to wake up.  The San Fran defense is good enough to give Mike Vick fits, and the Eagles defense is bad enough to give the Niners an opportunity to score enough points — and to get in position late so that Akers can win it.

Florio’s pick:  49ers 25, Eagles 24.

Rosenthal’s take: Philly’s defense has problems, but they have more weapons than the 49ers offense.  Frank Gore isn’t his usual self and the 49ers passing game is limited to put it nicely. LeSean McCoy can win this game on his own even if Michael Vick isn’t at his best.

Rosenthal’s pick: Eagles 27, 49ers 17.

Redskins at Rams

Florio’s take:  The Redskins played at Dallas on Monday night.  They now play at St. Louis, on a short week.  And the Rams are desperate to break a slide that easily could become 0-7.  And Rex Grossman has come back down to earth after an unexpectedly strong Week One performance.  And John Beck likely will be the starter after the bye.

Florio’s pick:  Rams 23, Redskins 17.

Rosenthal’s take: It’s not just the tough schedule: The Rams have legitimately been one of the worst teams in the league. The Redskins, on the other hand, seem to maximize meager talent on offense.  The defense is much improved. That should be enough against a Rams offense searching for answers.

Rosenthal’s pick: Redskins 24, Rams 18.

Giants at Cardinals

Florio’s take:  After stumbling out of the gates against the Redskins, the Giants have found their groove, beating both the Rams and the Eagles.  It’s impossible to pick against a team that is 2-0 all-time in GlenDale, given that the Giants also won an unlikely Super Bowl there.

Florio’s pick:  Giants 27, Cardinals 17.

Rosenthal’s take:  The Giants are starting to find an identity on offense with Ahmad Bradshaw getting back to his old self and Victor Cruz getting back to his 2010 preseason self. The biggest mismatch in this game is the Giants DL against the Cardinals OL.  Kevin Kolb won’t have time to think.

Rosenthal’s pick: Giants 26, Cardinals 21.

Falcons at Seahawks

Florio’s take:  Last year, the Falcons won by 16 in Seattle.  But the Falcons arguably were better last year.  Then again, so were the Seahawks.  Look for former Vikings defensive end Ray Edwards to get after former Vikings quarterback Tarvaris Jackson, and for the Falcons offense to play like it did against the Eagles.

Florio’s pick:  Falcons 30, Seahawks 20.

Rosenthal’s take: Seattle’s defense has potential to be better than average, especially against the run. Unfortunately, you still need to throw the ball to win in today’s NFL. 13 points is not going to get it done most weeks, even against a scuffling Falcons squad.

Rosenthal’s pick: Falcons 20, Seahawks 10.

Broncos at Packers

Florio’s take:  A rematch of Super Bowl XXXII.  That’s about the only reason to watch this one.  And that’s not even a reason to watch it.  The Broncos are mediocre and injured, the Packers are potent and healthy.  The Broncos have never won in Wisconsin, and the streak continues.

Florio’s pick:  Packers 31, Broncos 10.

Rosenthal’s take: Anything can happen in the NFL.  The Panthers nearly beat the Packers a few weeks ago.  The Broncos defense could be dangerous if they get Elvis Dumervil and Champ Bailey back.  That doesn’t mean I’m going to pick “anything” actually happening.

Rosenthal’s pick: Packers 31, Broncos 16.

Patriots at Raiders

Florio’s take:  A week after a reprise of the Heidi game, Raiders fans get a taste of the Go Tuck Yourself bowl.  This time, Oakland has Richard Seymour and an offense that the Patriots may not be able to handle.  The home team needs to grind the clock and get after Tom Brady, aggressively.  Maybe after this one people will begin to actually notice that we may be in the early days of a Renaissance in Raider Nation.

Florio’s pick:  Raiders 16, Patriots 13.

Rosenthal’s take:  What a great matchup.  The ultimate pass-first team against the best smashmouth squad in football.  Richard Seymour and Oakland’s deep defensive line against his old buddies Logan Mankins and Matt Light.  This matchup scares the Patriots because of Darren McFadden. It should scare the Oakland secondary even more. Tom Brady is the right guy to expose the Raiders’ depth issues.

Rosenthal’s pick: Patriots 34, Raiders 30.

Dolphins at Chargers

Florio’s take:  The Chargers’ wins have come by a combined 10 points over teams that are a combined 0-6.  Enter another winless team, and give the Chargers another closer-than-expected win.

Florio’s pick:  Chargers 26, Dolphins 20.

Rosenthal’s take: San Diego has won twice despite Philip Rivers not playing his best. I’m taking that as a good sign.  Miami can’t even win when they play well (Week One against the Patriots) or when they dominate the flow of the game (Week Three against the Browns.)

Rosenthal’s pick: Chargers 31, Dolphins 21.

Jets at Ravens

Florio’s take:  Last year, the Ravens and Jets found themselves in a Week One defensive struggle.  Look for more points this time around.  But with the Jets struggling to run and stop the run, the bulk of those points will likely be scored by the home team.

Florio’s pick:  Ravens 24, Jets 16.

Rosenthal’s take: We’re still learning about these teams. Baltimore’s offense looks more complete, but it’s hard to ignore the Week Two stinkbomb.  [Editor's note:  It's good to see that soiled diapers already are influencing Rosenthal's prose.]  The Jets defense looks less intimidating, but it’s hard to ignore Rex Ryan’s track record. Anything less than a great game will be a huge disappointment.

Rosenthal’s pick: Ravens 24, Jets 21.

Colts at Buccaneers

Florio’s take:  The Bucs return to Monday night for the first time since an epic collapse against the same team they’ll be facing.  With Jon Gruden in the broadcast booth to wallow in self-pity and generally gush about everything he sees, the team that fired him in 2009 will show the NFL that the time has come for a Tampa uprising.

Florio’s pick:  Buccaneers 34, Colts 13.

Rosenthal’s take: Josh Freeman is off to a slow start, and none of his teammates really scare you on offense. Yet Tampa is greater than the sum of its parts (again) and the Bucs have won two straight. The Colts are just missing parts, and the spare ones don’t work very well.

Rosenthal’s pick: Bucs 27, Colts 13.

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76 Responses to “PFT’s Week Four picks”
  1. We'reFineThere says: Sep 29, 2011 10:31 AM

    I knew someone was going to pick the Niners and I’m okay with it.

  2. jpmelon says: Sep 29, 2011 10:37 AM

    good picks….I don’t think the rams will beat the redskins though.

  3. 7thlombardiontheway says: Sep 29, 2011 10:37 AM

    LOL try again

  4. db9n says: Sep 29, 2011 10:38 AM

    While the Lions are a good team and certainly a very good offense, they are hardly a juggernaut. Let’s not lose our heads with the rhetoric.

  5. goldenstatus says: Sep 29, 2011 10:38 AM

    In other news, they just had a whole segment on Brady cutting his hair on espn first take..Skip Bayless says that Brady isn’t a team player and that he is a selfish human being for cutting his hair by himself, instead of it being an entire team thing, the other dumb b*tch on there said it is the sign of a franchise in despair. Guys, they get paid on this show. Why?

  6. axespray says: Sep 29, 2011 10:38 AM

    as a Packer Fan, never overlook the bears. They just played against two aggressive-talented teams (packers/saints) and idk, they’re gonna beat Cam’s Panthers.

    Jared Allen is going to kill the cheifs, no way the vikings can choke that one away…. especially after outscoring some talented teams for 6 qts in the 1st 3 weeks.

    I hate helicopters and John Elway’s teeth. Hope we run up the score on the Broncos.

  7. displacedbucsfan says: Sep 29, 2011 10:42 AM

    Everyone keeps saying that this is the first Bucs Monday Night game since their big-time collapse against the Colts 8 years ago. But it’s not. They played the Panthers on Monday, Dec 8, 2008 and lost then too. It was the night of that incredible Antonio Bryant catch. You know, the one that was still in the forefront of Mike Brown’s mind 2 off-seasons later when he signed Bryant to the Bengals for like $8 million per season. That went well.

  8. justwinbaby29 says: Sep 29, 2011 10:45 AM

    Raiders may beat the Patriots but it’s going to take a lot more than 16 points to do it. If the Raiders can hold the Pats to 27 I think they’ve got a good chance because they can put up 30+ on the New England defense.

    Go Raiders!!!

  9. southpaw2k says: Sep 29, 2011 10:47 AM

    goldenstatus says:
    Sep 29, 2011 10:38 AM
    In other news, they just had a whole segment on Brady cutting his hair on espn first take..Skip Bayless says that Brady isn’t a team player and that he is a selfish human being for cutting his hair by himself, instead of it being an entire team thing, the other dumb b*tch on there said it is the sign of a franchise in despair. Guys, they get paid on this show. Why?

    ———————————————–

    I didn’t see the clip, but taken out of context it sounds like they were both trying to mock its importance (or lack thereof). Then again, Skip Bayliss was involved, so that throws any sense of logic out the window.

  10. tampajoey says: Sep 29, 2011 10:49 AM

    How can someone that knows so little about football have a football blog?

  11. minnesconsin says: Sep 29, 2011 10:52 AM

    “the Eagles defense is bad enough to give the Niners an opportunity to score enough points”

    No one could’ve imagined that sentence a month ago. i love football.

  12. asublimeday says: Sep 29, 2011 10:54 AM

    The lions “special season” ends when peppers once again breaks matt “glass man” stafford next week.

  13. joetoronto says: Sep 29, 2011 10:57 AM

    justwinbaby29 says: Sep 29, 2011 10:45 AM

    Raiders may beat the Patriots but it’s going to take a lot more than 16 points to do it. If the Raiders can hold the Pats to 27 I think they’ve got a good chance because they can put up 30+ on the New England defense.

    Go Raiders!!!
    *************************************************
    Exactly, well said.

  14. akulabug says: Sep 29, 2011 10:59 AM

    Patriots score 13 points against Oakland. Just don’t bother with any more Pats stuff. You have no cred.

    You obviously were abused by someone with a Pats jersey on when you were a kid.

    Pick them to lose can be defended. 13 points is just hate.

  15. imjinbrdgr says: Sep 29, 2011 11:01 AM

    goldenstatus says: Sep 29, 2011 10:38 AM

    In other news, they just had a whole segment on Brady cutting his hair on espn first take..Skip Bayless says that Brady isn’t a team player and that he is a selfish human being for cutting his hair by himself, instead of it being an entire team thing, the other dumb b*tch on there said it is the sign of a franchise in despair. Guys, they get paid on this show. Why?
    ==================================

    Just had to give an extra thumbs up to this! Why is that group of babbling idiots still on the air. They could just send someone out on the street with a camera and at least get some interesting commentary from average fans.

  16. sadie753 says: Sep 29, 2011 11:05 AM

    Why won’t my post show??

  17. mmmpieyummy says: Sep 29, 2011 11:06 AM

    OK, even as a Raider fan there is no way they can hold the Pats to 13 points…but that sure is a nice dream to think about.

  18. redrifle14 says: Sep 29, 2011 11:09 AM

    No way in hell is the Texans going to beat the Steelers sunday. Im not even a Steelers fan, a matter of fact I hate them, but still the Texans aren’t physical enough to last 48 mins with them.

  19. burgundyandgold says: Sep 29, 2011 11:12 AM

    NFC East Standings on Monday Morning:

    Redskins 3-1
    Giants 3-1
    Pukes 2-2
    Eagles 2-2

  20. goldenstatus says: Sep 29, 2011 11:13 AM

    southpaw2k says: Sep 29, 2011 10:47 AM

    goldenstatus says:
    Sep 29, 2011 10:38 AM
    In other news, they just had a whole segment on Brady cutting his hair on espn first take..Skip Bayless says that Brady isn’t a team player and that he is a selfish human being for cutting his hair by himself, instead of it being an entire team thing, the other dumb b*tch on there said it is the sign of a franchise in despair. Guys, they get paid on this show. Why?

    ———————————————–

    I didn’t see the clip, but taken out of context it sounds like they were both trying to mock its importance (or lack thereof). Then again, Skip Bayliss was involved, so that throws any sense of logic out the window.

    —————————————
    No it’s completely in context, they were dead serious. Find it if you can. Nothing new out of worthless Bayless though.

  21. gosuhgo says: Sep 29, 2011 11:14 AM

    The vikes aren’t all that bad. They looked really good against Detroit..for the half. I really wanna know what goes on in that locker room at half time. They’ll still murder the chiefs though.

  22. wutliss07 says: Sep 29, 2011 11:15 AM

    LET’S GO BUFFALO!!!!!!!!!

  23. bostonhasrealhockey says: Sep 29, 2011 11:16 AM

    I agree , im a pats fan But i dont see both of theese offenses scoring 29 combined. The winner will have to put up 31+ ,given how pats d has played its almost a given.

  24. claydefayette says: Sep 29, 2011 11:30 AM

    I’ve got San Diego in my survivor pool but it’s risky because it is the Chargers.

    Watch out for the Bengals. The Bills can’t afford to get down by 18 on the road against a ball-controlled offense. Dalton will need to not throw 2 interceptions in the 4th quarter again.

  25. bossyrossy says: Sep 29, 2011 11:33 AM

    Dang, you hold the cowboys to 0 TDs in their own house and lose a tight one that comes down to a couple mistakes and a botched field goal and BOOM – you can’t even beat the Rams?

  26. Tim says: Sep 29, 2011 11:35 AM

    You guys honestly think that the Vikes are trying to tank and get in the running for Andrew Luck after they drafted Ponder and signed McNabb? C’mon now..

  27. skins23 says: Sep 29, 2011 11:38 AM

    LOL what a surprise, MF picks against the Skins again. He literally will not pick them all year. It’s ok Mike, you can admit you were wrong about them….

    Jeez, you really know nothing about football. Beck will be the starter after the bye?? Why, because the Skins are a 3rd and 21 away from being 3-0? Or because Rex put up better numbers than Romo Monday? Or that Brady, Ryan, Ben and Rivers have more turnovers than Rex so far?

    Seriously, quit drinking the haterade… its messing with your mind.

  28. jamezz23 says: Sep 29, 2011 11:38 AM

    @db9n

    Yes the lions offensive is a juggernaut….. If they could run the ball with any consistency they would be unstoppable on that side of the ball.

  29. southpaw2k says: Sep 29, 2011 11:39 AM

    goldenstatus says:
    Sep 29, 2011 11:13 AM
    southpaw2k says: Sep 29, 2011 10:47 AM

    goldenstatus says:
    Sep 29, 2011 10:38 AM
    In other news, they just had a whole segment on Brady cutting his hair on espn first take..Skip Bayless says that Brady isn’t a team player and that he is a selfish human being for cutting his hair by himself, instead of it being an entire team thing, the other dumb b*tch on there said it is the sign of a franchise in despair. Guys, they get paid on this show. Why?

    ———————————————–

    I didn’t see the clip, but taken out of context it sounds like they were both trying to mock its importance (or lack thereof). Then again, Skip Bayliss was involved, so that throws any sense of logic out the

    ————————————————

    No it’s completely in context, they were dead serious. Find it if you can. Nothing new out of worthless Bayless though.

    ————————————————

    Wow, man. Just wow. Bayless was already a pompous airbag who had anything but credibility on his side, but now trying to argue that Brady isn’t a team guy by cutting his hair himself transcends stupidity. I’m not sure there’s even a word that can adequately describe how stupid that is.

  30. benwantsababyruth says: Sep 29, 2011 11:42 AM

    @redrifle14

    You sure you aren’t a steelers fan? You had me convinced with the whole “Texans aren’t tough enough to last 48 minutes with them” thing. What about the other 12 minutes?

  31. haleyistheman00 says: Sep 29, 2011 11:43 AM

    chiefs should of beat san diego last week …they are home and they will win.

  32. Davo says: Sep 29, 2011 11:48 AM

    @ 7thlombardiontheway : LOL try again

    7thlombardiontheway says: Sep 29, 2011 10:37 AM

    LOL try again
    6
    39

  33. johnnycamparm says: Sep 29, 2011 11:52 AM

    akulabug says: Sep 29, 2011 10:59 AM

    Patriots score 13 points against Oakland. Just don’t bother with any more Pats stuff. You have no cred.

    You obviously were abused by someone with a Pats jersey on when you were a kid.

    Pick them to lose can be defended. 13 points is just hate.
    ———————————————————–
    Didn’t Tom Brady say something very similar to this before his last Super Bowl? How’d that work out again?

  34. nesuperfan says: Sep 29, 2011 11:53 AM

    I like F-L-O-R-IO’s site, but since when does ANYONE think he knows jack squat about football? 16-13??

    Between that and his weekly power rankings, what a c-l-o-w-n.

  35. typicaleaglesfan says: Sep 29, 2011 12:03 PM

    Kevin kolb and stu Bradley get revenge for their old team and the skins come back down to earth. Suh puts romo on the shelf and I pray the eagles offense remembers number 10 is still on the team. Jets beat Baltimore steelers take out texans. Bills will come back down like in 2008 write the picks down!!!!!

  36. theharshestreality says: Sep 29, 2011 12:23 PM

    “Pounding the Cowboys” – “Juggernaut”. Right. Talk about taking a leap – hold your horses on comparing the Lions to the Bears.

  37. dirtyjersey9er says: Sep 29, 2011 12:23 PM

    I have a question for Rosenthal. If philly’s O-Line is suspect and the 49ers have the top ranked rushing defense how is it that LeSean McCoy is expected to be the key factor let alone win it on his own?

    Part of that run D are Patrick Willis and Navarro Bowman who are pretty fast at Inside Linebacker. If anything I’d expect Vick to Jackson to be what could potentially kill the 49ers chances unless the corners on Desean actually gets to play press coverage to disrupt a route.

  38. mrfrostyj says: Sep 29, 2011 12:26 PM

    Rosenthal’s take: The Browns have to prove they aren’t just lucky. They won two close games against winless teams where they appeared to be outplayed.”

    Correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t the Browns WIN their last game WITHOUT their two best players. Just ask fans here in Indy, Colts can’t do that with 1 guy missing.

    Also I don’t remember the Colts game being close at all unless the opposing team getting their first touchdown at the end of the fourth quarter when they’re opponents are already up by 2 TD’s is close.

    I take it Rosenthal doesn’t actually watch the games. Spring for Sunday ticket instead of just watching Red Zone and pretending you saw the games man. Once Cleveland beat any team without Cribbs returning kicks and Hillis running people over, they became a legit threat and are probably the 2nd best team in that division now.

  39. jkb0162 says: Sep 29, 2011 12:26 PM

    Whoahh there on the Lions. They should beat the Cowboys, but 34-17? Juggernaut? They had trouble beating the Vikings, and their O-line looks weak. I expect D-Ware and Spencer to have a field day.

  40. agave182 says: Sep 29, 2011 12:28 PM

    Looking back at your week 3 picks…you both went 10-6. Not 11-5.

  41. rexismybff says: Sep 29, 2011 12:30 PM

    Boston police will have to shut down all the bridges in town for a month after the Pats get blasted in the Black Hole. The entire town is in massive panic attack mode after the historic Sox meltdown last night.

  42. ampats says: Sep 29, 2011 12:31 PM

    Glad to see Raider fans feeling confident after their 2-1 start.Little early to be talking trash.

    I wouldn’t want to face TB after last week especially since the Raiders DB depth is suspect at best.

    The Pats D weakness is with the DB’s /pass rush but their run D is ranked 10th.

    Tom Brady will have a great day in the Black Hole.

  43. rangersleadtheway says: Sep 29, 2011 12:43 PM

    ampats.. you commented in a previous post that the Raiders are a commitment to failure.. you may want to reexamine that. Raiders are 3-2 in Superbowls–SAME AS PATRIOTS

  44. joetoronto says: Sep 29, 2011 12:44 PM

    ampats:

    Their run defense is ranked 10th because everybody’s passing on them.

    The crazy thing is, you know this already.

  45. rangersleadtheway says: Sep 29, 2011 12:44 PM

    Oh.. and by the way.. and of the three they did win, they werent by last second field goals…

    GFY

  46. failcopter says: Sep 29, 2011 12:47 PM

    Glad to see Raider fans feeling confident after their 2-1 start.Little early to be talking trash.

    I wouldn’t want to face TB after last week especially since the Raiders DB depth is suspect at best.

    The Pats D weakness is with the DB’s /pass rush but their run D is ranked 10th.

    Tom Brady will have a great day in the Black Hole.
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    The Pats’ run d is ranked 10th because everybody exploited their pass d.

  47. eroc88 says: Sep 29, 2011 12:52 PM

    I am a die hard cowboys fan but, i think we lose to the lions our secondary is trash & megatron is a BEAST our pass rush maybe our only chance of winning by creating tunovers. BTW DEADSKIN FANS GAME OVER STOP CRYING LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS !!!!!!!!

  48. EJ says: Sep 29, 2011 12:54 PM

    As long as Buffalo leads before halftime they should lock this game down. Keep Dalton under pressure, avoid letting him go deep and keep their running game under 100yds.

    As for Buffalo on Offense, a little Fitz-magic, the O-line keeping him upright all day and they should be golden.

    Go Bills!!!!

  49. Andre's Johnson says: Sep 29, 2011 1:09 PM

    @redrifle

    You think the Texans aren’t physical enough to keep up with the Steelers?

    I think the Steelers aren’t fast enough to keep up with the Texans.

  50. rexismybff says: Sep 29, 2011 1:10 PM

    @Rangers – you are wrong – Pats are only 3-3 in Super Bowls. Are you forgetting the biggest humiliation in Super Bowl history – the beatdown by the ’85 Bears? What did the Pats have – like 8 yards of offense in that game?

  51. RexCanCoach says: Sep 29, 2011 1:24 PM

    The only way the Jets can upset the Ravens this week is

    1) Show some ability to stop or slow down the run / R. Rice

    2) Sack Flacco 3 times

    3) Use LT more in passing game

    I am seeing a sometime ugly game, and will call the Jets in an upset 20-17.

  52. warvette says: Sep 29, 2011 1:24 PM

    roenthal had a baby? how come we’re only hearing about this now?

  53. rangersleadtheway says: Sep 29, 2011 1:33 PM

    @rexismybff…

    I actually forgot about their packer loss.. I definitely wouldnt overlook the worst showing of a team ever in superbowl history. (and yes that does include the chargers/49ers and when Oakland forgot to change the playbook against the bucs).

    Oh.. and 3 of the 4 superbowls decided by 3 points or less were the Patriots wins. Dynasty’s dont win on last second FG’s.. sorry

  54. CKL says: Sep 29, 2011 1:38 PM

    Nice touch,mf using the same score from the Pats Raiders divisional playoff game but in reverse. :-)

  55. radrntn says: Sep 29, 2011 1:40 PM

    ampats says:
    Sep 29, 2011 12:31 PM
    Glad to see Raider fans feeling confident after their 2-1 start.Little early to be talking trash.

    I wouldn’t want to face TB after last week especially since the Raiders DB depth is suspect at best.
    ___________________________

    I wouldn’t want to be tom brady facing richard seymour after the classless pats organzation stabbed him in the back

    The Pats D weakness is with the DB’s /pass rush but their run D is ranked 10th.
    ____________________________

    the pats “d” is ranked dfl in the entire nfl…..

    Tom Brady will have a great day in the Black Hole.
    ____________________________

    yep watching the clouds flat on his back.

  56. PFTiswhatitis says: Sep 29, 2011 1:42 PM

    @rexismybff: for someone stuck so high up Rex’s butt you sure go out of your way to comment about the pats.

  57. hoobsher says: Sep 29, 2011 1:48 PM

    admit it rosy, you picked against the eagles cuz you just don’t like them. don’t give some lame excuse that it’d be nice to see akers beat his former team.

    go home and raise your daughter, she needs a female role model anyway.

    BOOM roasted.

  58. citizenstrange says: Sep 29, 2011 1:59 PM

    The Steelers will need Roethlisberger to put up more than his usual 10 points through the first three and a half quarters.

    He won’t and the Steelers will lose by 20.

    It will be the same against the Patriots and the Ravens.

  59. theravenlives2 says: Sep 29, 2011 2:14 PM

    Dang, you hold the cowboys to 0 TDs in their own house and lose a tight one that comes down to a couple mistakes and a botched field goal and BOOM – you can’t even beat the Rams?

    ==============================

    Or one could look at it as a team that couldn’t beat an injured QB and a team that couldn’t even snap the ball correctly. Let’s face it, the Cowboys aren’t the Chiefs of this year, but they ain’t the Packers either!

  60. firerosenthalthebastard says: Sep 29, 2011 2:15 PM

    there seems to be a lot of skin fans on these boards lately, which is admirable, but don’t expect a lot of people to hop on the bandwagon when your two playmakers are Rex Grossman and Tim Hightower

  61. revengeofthefilthymcnasty says: Sep 29, 2011 2:39 PM

    Rosenthal…nice pickin’ man!

  62. czech12 says: Sep 29, 2011 2:50 PM

    Jet’s will trounce the Ravens…

  63. onetobeamup says: Sep 29, 2011 3:03 PM

    “The Bucs return to Monday night for the first time since an epic collapse against the same team they’ll be facing” Uhh…the Bucs were last on Monday night in 2008 against the Panthers that started their 4 game slide that eventually cost Gruden his job.
    How much do you get paid to NOT do any research?

  64. gosuhgo says: Sep 29, 2011 5:32 PM

    asublimeday says: Sep 29, 2011 10:54 AM

    The lions “special season” ends when peppers once again breaks matt “glass man” stafford next week.
    _____________________________
    get a clue. Staff got hammered by jared allen and kept popping back up.

  65. ericwitt2117 says: Sep 29, 2011 7:27 PM

    Just wondering whats up with the love for the Texans. They were fortunate to score that many points against N.O. (had some lucky bounces). Just because the Steelers have a subpar snf game (and win) doesn’t mean they don’t rebound. Ask Seattle. Texans may win, but this by no means is def. I think Pittsburgh will be jus fine.

  66. jsalis13 says: Sep 30, 2011 11:31 AM

    asublimeday says: Sep 29, 2011 10:54 AM

    The lions “special season” ends when peppers once again breaks matt “glass man” stafford next week.

    ___________________________________

    Flukey Injuries, Peppers gave him a monster hit, doubt it happens that bad again. We need to worry more about our own QB’s health. Suprisingly I’m not nearly as worried about J’marcus Webb as Garza or Omiyale, those two and Mike Martz’s outdated system are the problem. I say we mimic the Patriots/Packers and go short passes to our speedy receivers. It makes so much more sense with this personell

  67. 5xchamp says: Sep 30, 2011 11:32 AM

    Lions For real ? The lions will put up a fight but there is no way they come out with a W in this game …. the feel good storyline was cute for a minute but the minute is up ,Garret will have his team ready for this one and Ryan will dial up somethin nice for staford … c.Johnson is the only real offensive threat here ,but he has been hobbled all week in practice, expect the Dallas D to jump all over this marginal Detroit offense ….. 28 – 17 Dallas , lock it !

  68. ghostofgenefrenkle says: Sep 30, 2011 5:45 PM

    @ 5xchamp

    3 game stats…Catches, total yards, yards/reception, touchdowns:

    Calvin: 16, 225, 14.1, 6
    Pettigrew: 16, 176, 11.0, 0
    Best: 15, 182, 12.1, 1
    Burleson: 14, 165, 11.8, 0
    Young: 9, 140, 15.6, 0
    Scheffler: 3, 51, 17.0, 2

    I don’t mind thoughtful analysis by other team’s fans, but when you make statements like “Calvin is the only real offensive threat here,” you just look like another misinformed homer.

    Just sayin’…

  69. mancave001 says: Sep 30, 2011 5:59 PM

    Picking against the Eagles this week his moronic.

  70. 5xchamp says: Sep 30, 2011 7:57 PM

    @ghostofgenefrenkle

    nicely played, I know Det has been putting up big numbers with stafford and i do acknoledge that. i am even aware that he has 5 receivers with over 1oo yrds, just saying that Dal”s D that is ranked 5th in total def should be able to disrupt detroits pass game a bit, our corners blow, but our front four should get pressuse, thus hopelfully giving stafford fits …. HOPEFUlLY

  71. mancave001 says: Sep 30, 2011 9:16 PM

    Pardon me, I meant picking against the Eagles IS moronic. Really…there is no reason to think they will lose this one.

    Then again, there was no reason to think that last week, where most commentators picked them to win 31-14.

  72. ghostofgenefrenkle says: Oct 1, 2011 12:02 PM

    @5xchamp

    Didn’t mean to get in your grill. I’m 54 and have been living and dying with the Lions since I was a kid. Ironically, the first game I ever watched on TV was the 5-0 playoff loss to the Cowboys.

    I’m not a slappie who thinks the Lions are a dominant team that is a lock for the post season, however, I’ve seen enough of our teams over the years to know that this group is pretty solid. Do we have weaknesses? Yes, as do most other NFL teams.

    I saw how competitive this team was last year, playing most of our games with our 2nd and 3rd string back-up QB’s and a porous Linebacking/DB core. With a couple of breaks, last years team could have easily gone 8-8, making this years start not seem so jaw dropping. The Lions front office has addressed some of those glaring deficiencies with some solid players in the off season.

    I don’t mind trash talking so much; Lord knows we have some overzealous fans who have been so starved of a successful team that they are going off the deep end and making all sorts of far reaching claims. I understand other teams fans getting a little annoyed with some of these posters. But by the same token, we get really agitated with some posters who dismiss this team as a pretender who will be exposed as “the same old Lions.” Anyone who follows this team in depth knows that this team is for real. A lot can happen in a regular season, but I believe this is a team that can challenge for a playoff spot this year, and we finally have a staff that is making sound personnel decisions for once.

    You seem like a smart football guy and I didn’t mean to go off on you. 40 years of ugly football has left me a little frayed at the edges. Took some intestinal fortitude to respond to my snarky little post. You have earned my respect, dude.

    Just like the respect I hope the Lions can earn this year.

  73. deiong says: Oct 1, 2011 6:56 PM

    really liions over cowpies? i know lions are a ton better, but lets face it, they havent played anyone good yet… theyve had the easiest scheudle in the league so far.. as much as i like watching the cows lose, i dont think they will lose to the lions.

  74. materialman80 says: Oct 1, 2011 7:07 PM

    I hope the Lions really stomp the Cowchips so we don’t have to hear anymore about the “hero” Romo.

  75. 5xchamp says: Oct 1, 2011 7:12 PM

    @ghostof….
    nah, it’s all good man… just like you said , I also respect football knoledge , not really here to bash anyone ( except eagirls fans, lol) and that is only because i live in philly sub burbs and get force fed all this dream team crap ect…. that being said I do believe that your Lions are a legitimate contender and i have always liked stafford way before ever going pro, dude is solid, enjoy your season and dertoit already has much respect.
    peace

  76. hailskins4life says: Oct 2, 2011 6:41 PM

    Things we have learned from today…
    1. Dallas and Romo will still choke away games. This time due to play calling. 27-3 and you pass all day?
    2. Steelers O-line is offensive.
    3. Redskins D is for real
    4. Rex Grossman is still Rex Grossman.
    5. 16-13 Oakland was the DUMBEST prediction EVER.
    6. Eagles are learning what the Redskins proved for 10 years…you cant buy titles.
    7. 16-13…Really?
    8. Rex grossman is not a good qb and therefore the Skins will NOT make the playoffs.
    9. Aaron Rodgers and the Packers are better than ever.
    10. 16-13?!? Worst prediction of ALL TIME. Two bad defenses vs. Two good offenses and you predict a low scoring game? COME ON MAN!

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