No fine for Chris Canty’s hit on Vick

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The NFL decided not to fine Eagles quarterback Mike Vick for his public complaints regarding the lack of roughing-the-passer penalties after Sunday’s loss to the Giants.  The NFL also has decided not to fine the Giants defensive lineman who was responsible for what many regarded as the one clearly illegal hit on Vick that didn’t result in a penalty.

The league has informed PFT that Giants defensive tackle Chris Canty will not be fined for a third-quarter hit that appeared to entail Canty’s helmet hitting Vick’s helmet after he had released the ball.

Given that it seems apparent Canty made helmet-to-helmet contact with Vick, it’s hard not to wonder whether the league opted to refrain from fining Canty in order to avoid giving credence to Vick’s concerns.  Though Vick’s complaints regarding his perception that he doesn’t draw flags that other quarterbacks get was, in our estimation, off the mark, the league had cleaned up other missed calls on quarterbacks like Tom Brady, Matt Ryan, and Kerry Collins by assessing fines after the fact.  The failure to fine Canty for his hit on Vick seems odd, to say the least.

72 responses to “No fine for Chris Canty’s hit on Vick

  1. So now the league won’t give a fine when clearly a fine is due simply because they’re worried it might send the wrong message? So now the message is, go ahead and hit Vick whenever, we will not throw a flag and not fine you because it will justify his mentioning of our poor performance.

  2. Not a fan of either team, but if you look at it frame by frame it looks like more shoulder to high chest section of the Dog Killer.

  3. The Commish says:
    Sep 30, 2011 3:07 PM
    Looks like he hit him in the shoulder

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    Hit him initally in the shoulder which is too high to hit a QB, then his helmet slid up to hit Vicks helmet. Should be a fine a a penalty but since Vick isn’t Manning or Brady it’s the usual biased no-call.

  4. Textbook helmet to helmet contact. If they enforced rules as they were written, it deserved a fine.

    Lucky for all of us, nothing is enforced that way in the NFL.

  5. Duanta Robinson hit Desean Jackson last year in the shoulder and he still got fined. The NFL will never pass up a chance to assess a fine, unless are a a QB the complains to the press about the officiating.

    Canty should write Vick a thank you letter for getting him out of this one

  6. So let me get this straight: The league doesn’t wanna fine Canty cause they don’t wanna give creedence to Vicks comments, but instead fine other players for similar hits on other quarterbacks therefore giving credence to Vicks comments… Brilliant!!

  7. Duanta Robinson hit Desean Jackson last year in the shoulder and he still got fined. The NFL will never pass up a chance to assess a fine, unless you are a QB that complains to the press about the officiating.

    Canty should write Vick a thank you letter for getting him out of this one

  8. Look at the film, no fine should have even been thought of. Maybe Vic should be fined for false accusations.

  9. Vick should have kept his mouth shut in the first place. Because he didn’t, the league is going to make an example of him. Other teams will be able to hit him without fear of punishment.

  10. The office saw the facemask Canty wears and decided they were better off not asking him for any of his lunch money.

  11. Maybe it’s as hard for the NFL to like Mike Vick as it is for so many of us. I’m not saying it’s a dirty hit just that the league hasn’t been shy to fine if it looks like it could be close to a dirty hit.

  12. Do you honestly believe the league is going to pass up the opportunity to squeeze another 20k out of a player if they thought it was warranted? I don’t think they really care WHAT they look like. They didn’t think it was an illegal hit.

  13. It was a clean hit but Vick complaining about the Refs on tv should be a fine. Every other player that complains about the refs get fined. Vick is the new pretty boy of the NFL.

  14. I think one of the biggest problems with the rules and interpretation is that they try to make it all so objective and take the practical observation of the ref out of it.

    Tom Jackson was technically correct (although his demeanor of acting like a wrongly convicted death row inmate just got the chair was a bit odd) that part of Canty’s helmet did contact Vick’s. But the angle (not horizontal and spearing) and the lack of an extra step, a really tall guy trying to go down lower, etc. give the live play impression that it is not the type of hit they are trying to eliminate.

    I have seen tons of what I would call “insidental” contact with a QB’s helmet get called and not get called in recent years. I say let the refs decide subjectively if it is no harm, no foul. They are right there. We are all hundreds of miles away.

  15. I watched it a few times. the top of canty’s helmet definitely hits vicks face mask and pushes his helmet up

    so, I’d say helmet to helmet if the face mask is part of the helmet, probably caught vick in the chin as well

  16. If the defensive lineman puts his head down to tackle in the midsection, and then the quarterback drops his head and gets conked as a result, there’s nothing the defensive lineman can do about that. Canty’s situation wasn’t a CLEAR violation of the rules, it was arguable at best.

  17. Nor should there be. It was clean. Whiny Vick and IGGLES fans don’t like it. Vick ducked and Canty is 6’7″ and STILL hit him in the shoulder.

    The man is 315 lbs. Vick is barely 200. Looked worse than it was, and the injury came from bracing for the fall, not anything Canty did.

    I always knew the pathetic, sad sack, cut rate Eagles and their fans would have some esoteric excuse when we won.

    They had the “seven in a row!!!” fired up and ready to go once they signed all these big name do-nothings.

  18. lol….are you serious??? canty’s head hit vick square in the left shoulder. you really need to watch the video again…..canty’s helmet was not even close to vick’s head…jeez. vick’s head going back and his helmet coming askew was the result of the impact. how in the world can you say canty not getting fined was odd??? you really didnt bother to do your homework here…bad job.

  19. If Vick wouldn’t of had a stomping his feet and flailing his arms 2 year old hissy fit after the game this might be a different story. Him opening his mouth has made it an awkward situation for every ref that works one of his games now.

    Now that teams have footage on Vick (post state pen) and he’s seeing his numbers falter, he’s looking to blame everyone but himself.

  20. Your are the biggest crybaby that has ever endeavored into sports reporting. Wa Wa Wa, Canty should have been fined for hitting Vick…Wa Wa Wa! Someone should throw Vick in a pen of rabid dogs, and throw you in right afterwards!

  21. It was not a helmet to helmet hit. He led with his shoulder and that is why there was no fine. It wasn’t a late hit because he only took one step after the throw. Although the media likes to make something out of nothing, people who are paid to make these calls “saw nothing that anywhere close to illegal”. Why is this so hard to understand?

  22. for all of the blind clowns posting here. i hope you guys all wear your glasses when you drive. helmet to helmet??? uh, no. you guys are nuts.

  23. What dog fighting thing? I’ve watched every game Vick played in for the past 2 1/2 years but I feel like I’ve missed something?

  24. Come on Vick, quite crying….the dogs you abused were hit harder than that and who’d they get to complain to.

    Pull up your big girl panties and get back to the huddle and call the next play.

  25. @jdandcoke,

    the ref who had the best view calls it a shoulder shot immediately after, watch his hand motions.

    just a bunch of whining philthadelphians who are still bitter after the abrupt realization that maybe the sheagles not as good as some thought.

  26. I think its funny that Jason Pierre-Paul was able to slow down and avoid contact with the QB and he was closer and running at the same momentum at Canty…but yet Canty still hit Vick with full force, knocking him to the ground well after the ball was thrown. Canty got lucky that Vick complained…thats all.

  27. tinkletinkleonyourstar says: Sep 30, 2011 5:53 PM

    @jdandcoke,

    the ref who had the best view calls it a shoulder shot immediately after, watch his hand motions.

    just a bunch of whining philthadelphians who are still bitter after the abrupt realization that maybe the sheagles not as good as some thought.
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    … along with the abrupt realization that they were not going to be able to say “seven in a row!!!” which is (sadly for these peons) the ONLY thing they can ever boast about in reference to the Giants.

  28. Stop the tape at 36 seconds and you will see Canty leading with the crown of his helmet…Doonta Robinson does the same thing…So does Asante, on the rare occasion he desides to tackle/hit somebody…you just can’t bend down and stick the top of your helmet into somebody’s face.

    Keep your eyes up, and drive through the ball carrier…never get a fine.

  29. Keep your biased opinions of Vick out of it and watch the hit. He leads with his head his face mask makes contact with Vicks shoulder but the left side of helmet as his head goes across clearly hits Vick in the chin. I didn’t know if you got hit square on the shoulder your helmet pops straight up and your bite your tongue?

  30. Here is what I do not understand the Refs said it was clean when it happened the NFL took a look and saw nothing wrong

    Yet egal fans are still saying different
    Do you think everyone is out to get you?

    If you think they knocked him around last week wait for the next game

    Osi Tuck Kiwi and JPP
    If Vick is still playing by that time he will not afterwards

    And just and FYI Eli Manning and Victor Cruz OWN the egals

  31. Here is what I do not understand the Refs said it was clean when it happened the NFL took a look and saw nothing wrong

    Yet egal fans are still saying different
    Do you think everyone is out to get you?

    If you think they knocked him around last week wait for the next game

    Osi Tuck Kiwi and JPP
    If Vick is still playing by that time he will not afterwards

    And just and FYI Eli Manning and Victor Cruz OWN the egals

    Bigbluefan and mr wright
    The eagles overlooked the giants! Keep beating your chests like your team has locked up the division. Eli really owns the eagles! Just broke a six game losin streak to them. He’s thrown more picks than tds vs the eagles in his career but he’s got their number. You two are morons an your team sucks

  32. Mr wright 212. Pump the brakes dude. You take this way to serious. “We” won the game? I watched the entire game, but somehow missed you being a member of the Giants. Always remember- Chris Canty probably did not even feel this strongly about the whole thing…. Why do you?

  33. you have got to be kidding me, what a puss. he was hit in the shoulder and their helmets grazed from the contact. there is no fine because one was not warranted. The NFL has done nothing bur promote this clown as the second coming of jesus christ and now he wants to try and whine his way into bs calls. he’s as much of an idiot as eagles fans themselves. boohoo, the dream team is right where they belong, the bottom if the NFC east.

  34. gundog06 says: Oct 1, 2011 12:29 AM

    Mr wright 212. Pump the brakes dude. You take this way to serious. “We” won the game? I watched the entire game, but somehow missed you being a member of the Giants. Always remember- Chris Canty probably did not even feel this strongly about the whole thing…. Why do you?
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    As I had to remind some guy before, you know what people call those of you who pull this card, right? Unless you ARE one of them, SHADAAP.

  35. Bigbluefan and mr wright
    The eagles overlooked the giants! Keep beating your chests like your team has locked up the division. Eli really owns the eagles! Just broke a six game losin streak to them. He’s thrown more picks than tds vs the eagles in his career but he’s got their number. You two are morons an your team sucks
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    No they didn’t. They got their ashes handed to them, and will again in Week 11. No one is counting the division won, that’s Eagles’ and Eagles’ fans’ job perennially, to count division titles, meaningless regular season winning streaks and Super Bowl berths/wins before they happen (and for the latter, NEVER WILL).

  36. @mr wright(wrong)
    you again have me scratching my head. You said Canty is 6’7 so wouldn’t that mean in order to hit Vicks helmet or shoulder pad he would have have to be down leading with his own helmet ? just sayin…

    Also, because of the helmet to helmet discussion we tend to forget that he hit him after the ball was thrown. again…just sayin…

  37. Whatever helps you sleep at night, aholland00. We’re a full game past it — and as usual, every Giants’ win is met with ho-hum or someone trying to discredit it. I surrender, You win. Just please don’t cite my name anymore. The horse has been dead and buried for days now.

  38. Eagles fans are only complaining because they lost. Vick wouldn’t be complaining if these weren’t losses piling up, and how poorly they play in the 4th quarters of games just compounds his frustration. And as a Giants fan, watching them YET AGAIN (as predicted) play down to the level of competition, I am no stranger to that same frustration. But acting as if it swung the balance of the game, when Babin got away with an indisputable personal foul, is what’s making this abhorrent.

    The objective eye knows it was called correctly, and only someone splitting hairs would suggest otherwise. Had Vick not fallen and injured his hand — which is what the focus should be, as Canty didn’t drive into him with full force, didn’t grab him and slam him nor did he even violently hit him — no one would have even said anything.

    Canty has 120 lbs on Vick. If he really had hit him as viciously as Eagles fans are whining about, he would have truly had a concussion.

    CASE CLOSED. GAME OVER. GET READY FOR BUFFALO WHILE MY GUYS GET READY FOR SEATTLE.

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