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	<title>Comments on: Aaron Rodgers says league deserves some of the blame for Johnny Jolly</title>
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		<title>By: judsonjr</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2011 16:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Really if *anyone* had wanted to help Jolly (Packers, league, whoever) they should have got him out of Houston which is basically the mecca of codeine abuse.  He doesn&#039;t need to be with a team,  he just needed to not be there.  

The Wisconsin equivalent would be like having alcoholic or convicted drunk driver live in an apartment above a bar.  

Jolly does have a drug problem, but I don&#039;t think he some trafficking kingpin like some articles have made him out to be.  I believe Texas law is such that if you put any codeine in a drink, the whole drink is counted toward the amount of your possession.  

It would be nice to know exactly what happened, but I would think if Jolly had been wronged by the league we would have heard about ti from him or his agent by now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really if *anyone* had wanted to help Jolly (Packers, league, whoever) they should have got him out of Houston which is basically the mecca of codeine abuse.  He doesn&#8217;t need to be with a team,  he just needed to not be there.  </p>
<p>The Wisconsin equivalent would be like having alcoholic or convicted drunk driver live in an apartment above a bar.  </p>
<p>Jolly does have a drug problem, but I don&#8217;t think he some trafficking kingpin like some articles have made him out to be.  I believe Texas law is such that if you put any codeine in a drink, the whole drink is counted toward the amount of your possession.  </p>
<p>It would be nice to know exactly what happened, but I would think if Jolly had been wronged by the league we would have heard about ti from him or his agent by now.</p>
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		<title>By: nflofficeadmin</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2011 11:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[bombayjon says: 
Oct 5, 2011 3:51 PM 
nflofficeadmin says:
Oct 5, 2011 3:41 PM
Some real uninformed opinions here that appear to not really understand some fundamental things about addiction and substance abuse. What a shame…

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Really? Most of them sounded pretty informed to me. “Personal responsibilty” and “admitting you have a problem” were the common themes. Is that not fundamental in addiction and substance abuse treatment?
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Dear Bombayblowjob, nice try taking a few catch phrases on addicition and selling the idea that most of the comments on here had any depth to them as they apply to the article... The fact is they don&#039;t, but there are a bunch of folks on here that get it... so put the generic phases down and add something original. douche.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bombayjon says:<br />
Oct 5, 2011 3:51 PM<br />
nflofficeadmin says:<br />
Oct 5, 2011 3:41 PM<br />
Some real uninformed opinions here that appear to not really understand some fundamental things about addiction and substance abuse. What a shame…</p>
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<p>Really? Most of them sounded pretty informed to me. “Personal responsibilty” and “admitting you have a problem” were the common themes. Is that not fundamental in addiction and substance abuse treatment?<br />
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Dear Bombayblowjob, nice try taking a few catch phrases on addicition and selling the idea that most of the comments on here had any depth to them as they apply to the article&#8230; The fact is they don&#8217;t, but there are a bunch of folks on here that get it&#8230; so put the generic phases down and add something original. douche.</p>
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		<title>By: nflofficeadmin</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2011 11:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[fmwarner says: 
Oct 5, 2011 7:17 PM 
nflofficeadmin says: Oct 5, 2011 3:41 PM

On another note… Great example of leadership here by Rodgers. This is sort of the opposite of what Eli would do for a teammate that finds himself in trouble. Plaxico is still waiting for a letter…
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Eli was being a leader for the other 51 guys that didn’t make a dumb decision and shoot themselves in the leg but still had to suffer the consequences of losing a Pro Bowl talent on their team. Nothing happened to Plaxico, he DID something. He can keep waiting.
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You&#039;re obviously to stupid to understand the point.  Every dumb@ss here understands there are consequences for your actions.  We&#039;re not handing you a noble prize for that.  The point is, it goes farther in a locker room when you support a teammate rather than not support a teammate.  But you probably can&#039;t understand that being the apologist that you are.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fmwarner says:<br />
Oct 5, 2011 7:17 PM<br />
nflofficeadmin says: Oct 5, 2011 3:41 PM</p>
<p>On another note… Great example of leadership here by Rodgers. This is sort of the opposite of what Eli would do for a teammate that finds himself in trouble. Plaxico is still waiting for a letter…<br />
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<p>Eli was being a leader for the other 51 guys that didn’t make a dumb decision and shoot themselves in the leg but still had to suffer the consequences of losing a Pro Bowl talent on their team. Nothing happened to Plaxico, he DID something. He can keep waiting.<br />
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You&#8217;re obviously to stupid to understand the point.  Every dumb@ss here understands there are consequences for your actions.  We&#8217;re not handing you a noble prize for that.  The point is, it goes farther in a locker room when you support a teammate rather than not support a teammate.  But you probably can&#8217;t understand that being the apologist that you are.</p>
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		<title>By: korikill</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2011 04:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is no place of employment that will let you come back to work to &#039;be with your support group&#039; (or wtf-ever) once you have been suspended.

Not until that suspension is lifted can you return to the workplace.

That is how life is lived in the REAL world, not Enabler-Land where Rodgers comes from.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no place of employment that will let you come back to work to &#8216;be with your support group&#8217; (or wtf-ever) once you have been suspended.</p>
<p>Not until that suspension is lifted can you return to the workplace.</p>
<p>That is how life is lived in the REAL world, not Enabler-Land where Rodgers comes from.</p>
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		<title>By: cactusranger71</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2011 03:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[2 white cups and I got that drank/
Could be purple it could be pank]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2 white cups and I got that drank/<br />
Could be purple it could be pank</p>
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		<title>By: joetoronto</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2011 00:24:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gay men are much softer and more understanding of turds like Jolly.

You can&#039;t blame Erin, it&#039;s just the way she&#039;s wired.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gay men are much softer and more understanding of turds like Jolly.</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t blame Erin, it&#8217;s just the way she&#8217;s wired.</p>
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		<title>By: philtration</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2011 00:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rodgers is a great QB but the more he talks the more you can see a turd just under the surface.
At this rate he will be just as much of a jag off as Favre is before he retires.

Not to mention him stiff arming an old lady with cancer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rodgers is a great QB but the more he talks the more you can see a turd just under the surface.<br />
At this rate he will be just as much of a jag off as Favre is before he retires.</p>
<p>Not to mention him stiff arming an old lady with cancer.</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gordon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2011 23:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stick to throwing a football]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stick to throwing a football</p>
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		<title>By: scomibord</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2011 23:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In life,  you can only make a mistake once.  When a person repeatedly commits the same infraction...it is called a choice.  Your problems fall on you JJ!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In life,  you can only make a mistake once.  When a person repeatedly commits the same infraction&#8230;it is called a choice.  Your problems fall on you JJ!</p>
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		<title>By: irishgary</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2011 23:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@contra74

As you are a fan of the Vikings you can be accepted as an expert on losers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@contra74</p>
<p>As you are a fan of the Vikings you can be accepted as an expert on losers.</p>
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		<title>By: wicky888</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2011 23:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve been drug tested at every job I&#039;ve ever.  I failed one because I was on drugs, and I was fired.  Pretty sure that was 100% my fault.  These NFL players are such coddled babies, it&#039;s pathetic.  Take responsibility for your actions you douche.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been drug tested at every job I&#8217;ve ever.  I failed one because I was on drugs, and I was fired.  Pretty sure that was 100% my fault.  These NFL players are such coddled babies, it&#8217;s pathetic.  Take responsibility for your actions you douche.</p>
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		<title>By: paulharghis</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2011 23:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[axespray says: 
Oct 5, 2011 6:53 PM 
paulharghis says:Oct 5, 2011 6:29 PM
“Being around the team- he is surrounded with people that are addicts or abusing many different drugs and alcohol…”

Got evidence?
Or are we just gonna roll with accusing people without evidence now like it’s the salem witch trials?

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Dude, yoiu are so F&#039;n dumb. I wrote it out for tools like you . But nope, you have to take it as an affront to the Packers that I said there were other addicts on EVERY team.
REading comprehension is a great thing, look into it.&#039;
Your post reads like you don&#039;t think anyone else have a problem.

Get your head out of the sand dummy.

If he needs help- a tra
eatment facility and narcanon are the place for him- not with his team.
Do you get it yet?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>axespray says:<br />
Oct 5, 2011 6:53 PM<br />
paulharghis says:Oct 5, 2011 6:29 PM<br />
“Being around the team- he is surrounded with people that are addicts or abusing many different drugs and alcohol…”</p>
<p>Got evidence?<br />
Or are we just gonna roll with accusing people without evidence now like it’s the salem witch trials?</p>
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Dude, yoiu are so F&#8217;n dumb. I wrote it out for tools like you . But nope, you have to take it as an affront to the Packers that I said there were other addicts on EVERY team.<br />
REading comprehension is a great thing, look into it.&#8217;<br />
Your post reads like you don&#8217;t think anyone else have a problem.</p>
<p>Get your head out of the sand dummy.</p>
<p>If he needs help- a tra<br />
eatment facility and narcanon are the place for him- not with his team.<br />
Do you get it yet?</p>
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		<title>By: fmwarner</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2011 23:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[nflofficeadmin says: Oct 5, 2011 3:41 PM

On another note… Great example of leadership here by Rodgers. This is sort of the opposite of what Eli would do for a teammate that finds himself in trouble. Plaxico is still waiting for a letter…
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Eli was being a leader for the other 51 guys that didn&#039;t make a dumb decision and shoot themselves in the leg but still had to suffer the consequences of losing a Pro Bowl talent on their team.  Nothing happened to Plaxico, he DID something.  He can keep waiting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nflofficeadmin says: Oct 5, 2011 3:41 PM</p>
<p>On another note… Great example of leadership here by Rodgers. This is sort of the opposite of what Eli would do for a teammate that finds himself in trouble. Plaxico is still waiting for a letter…<br />
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<p>Eli was being a leader for the other 51 guys that didn&#8217;t make a dumb decision and shoot themselves in the leg but still had to suffer the consequences of losing a Pro Bowl talent on their team.  Nothing happened to Plaxico, he DID something.  He can keep waiting.</p>
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		<title>By: Derty Ernie</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2011 23:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If Jolly would have gotten in drug trouble once, shame on the league for not assisting his recovery.
If Jolly got in trouble twice, shame on him for jeapardizing his family and career.
Apparently this is the fourth time assuming he did something during stage 3 suspension. 
Sadly, drugs have won out over football. 
I wish him well. He will need a lot of help.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Jolly would have gotten in drug trouble once, shame on the league for not assisting his recovery.<br />
If Jolly got in trouble twice, shame on him for jeapardizing his family and career.<br />
Apparently this is the fourth time assuming he did something during stage 3 suspension.<br />
Sadly, drugs have won out over football.<br />
I wish him well. He will need a lot of help.</p>
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		<title>By: axespray</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2011 22:53:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[paulharghis says:Oct 5, 2011 6:29 PM  
&quot;Being around the team- he is surrounded with people that are addicts or abusing many different drugs and alcohol...&quot;

Got evidence?
Or are we just gonna roll with accusing people without evidence now like it&#039;s the salem witch trials?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>paulharghis says:Oct 5, 2011 6:29 PM<br />
&#8220;Being around the team- he is surrounded with people that are addicts or abusing many different drugs and alcohol&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Got evidence?<br />
Or are we just gonna roll with accusing people without evidence now like it&#8217;s the salem witch trials?</p>
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		<title>By: axespray</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2011 22:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anyone that knows anyone that has had drug addiction problems knows that the worse thing is when the Person becomes bored or doesn&#039;t have a hobby.

Jolly never had this whole Purple Drink problem during the season, football distracted him from using drugs.  Dude was busted during the off-season and then suspended a whole season, kinda leaves him with a ton of time with no distractions...

but can&#039;t really blame the NFL office that much.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone that knows anyone that has had drug addiction problems knows that the worse thing is when the Person becomes bored or doesn&#8217;t have a hobby.</p>
<p>Jolly never had this whole Purple Drink problem during the season, football distracted him from using drugs.  Dude was busted during the off-season and then suspended a whole season, kinda leaves him with a ton of time with no distractions&#8230;</p>
<p>but can&#8217;t really blame the NFL office that much.</p>
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		<title>By: paulharghis</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2011 22:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[dukemarc says: 
Oct 5, 2011 4:34 PM 
ravenfan820 says: Oct 5, 2011 4:13 PM

Here is what I know to be true….If I fail one drug test for the corporation I worked for I am fired, period. No second chances, no suspensions, etc…. I am gone….that is how it is in the real world…..football players should be no different…..
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Does your job contribute significantly to generating hundred of millions of dollars for your employer each year? No? Do you see the difference? Your job is not equal to an NFL players, so stop using that line of reasoning.
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It&#039;s exactly this type of thinking that tells guys like Jolly that there is no reason to stop what they are doing. Once a person shows athletic talent in their early years- stupid behavior is tolerated or swept under the rug. That is, until it can&#039;r be covered up anymore.
That he is a 1/2000th cog in a corporation that generates billions of dollars is irrelevant.
By you saying what you said, you are excusing his behavior-that;s sickening.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dukemarc says:<br />
Oct 5, 2011 4:34 PM<br />
ravenfan820 says: Oct 5, 2011 4:13 PM</p>
<p>Here is what I know to be true….If I fail one drug test for the corporation I worked for I am fired, period. No second chances, no suspensions, etc…. I am gone….that is how it is in the real world…..football players should be no different…..<br />
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<p>Does your job contribute significantly to generating hundred of millions of dollars for your employer each year? No? Do you see the difference? Your job is not equal to an NFL players, so stop using that line of reasoning.<br />
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It&#8217;s exactly this type of thinking that tells guys like Jolly that there is no reason to stop what they are doing. Once a person shows athletic talent in their early years- stupid behavior is tolerated or swept under the rug. That is, until it can&#8217;r be covered up anymore.<br />
That he is a 1/2000th cog in a corporation that generates billions of dollars is irrelevant.<br />
By you saying what you said, you are excusing his behavior-that;s sickening.</p>
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		<title>By: paulharghis</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2011 22:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[herlies says: 
Oct 5, 2011 3:39 PM 
Once suspended, you are not allowed back into team facilities. Basically you are banned until reinstated, right?

For players with obvious drug and alcohol issues, being in a strong locker room culture every day probably has more positive effect on that player than simply telling him to take a hike and figure it out on his own. Especially when teammates and the organization are willing to help.

The Packers probably wanted Jolly in house everyday but the league does not allow it. It’s not the league’s fault, as Jolly made his own decisions.

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What in the world would anyone in that locker room know about a support system for an addict?

The support system he needs is a treatment facility and narcotics anonomyous. There, he would be around people schooled in helping addicts, being that many that work at these facilities are recovering themselves.

Being around the team- he is surrounded with people that are addicts or abusing many different drugs and alcohol(potentially- relax packer fans- i&#039;m generalizing the whole NFL not just the Packers-reference the turd watch if you don&#039;t think there is a widespread problem).

Anyway, I&#039;m sure he was affored the chance of treatment- his response was to continue his idiotic behavior. 
Rodgers should have probably kept his mouth shut- he has no background in addiction - he most likely has no idea what the leaugue did or didn&#039;t do for him. I understand he feels for his freind, but his freind is an idiot.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>herlies says:<br />
Oct 5, 2011 3:39 PM<br />
Once suspended, you are not allowed back into team facilities. Basically you are banned until reinstated, right?</p>
<p>For players with obvious drug and alcohol issues, being in a strong locker room culture every day probably has more positive effect on that player than simply telling him to take a hike and figure it out on his own. Especially when teammates and the organization are willing to help.</p>
<p>The Packers probably wanted Jolly in house everyday but the league does not allow it. It’s not the league’s fault, as Jolly made his own decisions.</p>
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What in the world would anyone in that locker room know about a support system for an addict?</p>
<p>The support system he needs is a treatment facility and narcotics anonomyous. There, he would be around people schooled in helping addicts, being that many that work at these facilities are recovering themselves.</p>
<p>Being around the team- he is surrounded with people that are addicts or abusing many different drugs and alcohol(potentially- relax packer fans- i&#8217;m generalizing the whole NFL not just the Packers-reference the turd watch if you don&#8217;t think there is a widespread problem).</p>
<p>Anyway, I&#8217;m sure he was affored the chance of treatment- his response was to continue his idiotic behavior.<br />
Rodgers should have probably kept his mouth shut- he has no background in addiction &#8211; he most likely has no idea what the leaugue did or didn&#8217;t do for him. I understand he feels for his freind, but his freind is an idiot.</p>
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		<title>By: contra74</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2011 21:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Carl Gerbschmidt says: 
Oct 5, 2011 3:56 PM 
Rodgers is standing behind his teammate. As any good leader should do. I think you vike fans might be too used to Mcnabb already, so you don’t recognize good leadership when you see it.
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Funny how youre the first to try to spin this around and make it a Vikings thing. Youre such a loser.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carl Gerbschmidt says:<br />
Oct 5, 2011 3:56 PM<br />
Rodgers is standing behind his teammate. As any good leader should do. I think you vike fans might be too used to Mcnabb already, so you don’t recognize good leadership when you see it.<br />
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Funny how youre the first to try to spin this around and make it a Vikings thing. Youre such a loser.</p>
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		<title>By: scytherius</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2011 21:53:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@pappysarcasm 

*yawn*

Hey, could you post a little something for us about what it&#039;s like to be irrelevant to, well, anything?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@pappysarcasm </p>
<p>*yawn*</p>
<p>Hey, could you post a little something for us about what it&#8217;s like to be irrelevant to, well, anything?</p>
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		<title>By: kennyrogerschicken</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2011 21:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Amazing amount of comments on a story involving Rodgers. Nothing like piling on a guy for backing a teammate, especially with all of the drunk drivers, dog killers, murderers, wife beaters and drug addicts still employed in the league. Hilarious.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazing amount of comments on a story involving Rodgers. Nothing like piling on a guy for backing a teammate, especially with all of the drunk drivers, dog killers, murderers, wife beaters and drug addicts still employed in the league. Hilarious.</p>
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		<title>By: hauts81</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2011 21:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[yeah, blame the NFL because Jolly can&#039;t help himself and keeps trafficking butt loads of codeine. that makes total sense.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah, blame the NFL because Jolly can&#8217;t help himself and keeps trafficking butt loads of codeine. that makes total sense.</p>
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		<title>By: Land Snark</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2011 21:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I give props to Rodgers for speaking out for his former teammate. 

I won&#039;t ever agree with him though. The league gave him an overabundance of chances that he took and then messed up. 

Overcoming addiction isn&#039;t easy, but it shouldn&#039;t be upon the league or the team to provide unlimited chances to clean up.

Having said that, I wonder how many of the people posting here have wrestled with addiction and have come out on the other side a winner. Probably few.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I give props to Rodgers for speaking out for his former teammate. </p>
<p>I won&#8217;t ever agree with him though. The league gave him an overabundance of chances that he took and then messed up. </p>
<p>Overcoming addiction isn&#8217;t easy, but it shouldn&#8217;t be upon the league or the team to provide unlimited chances to clean up.</p>
<p>Having said that, I wonder how many of the people posting here have wrestled with addiction and have come out on the other side a winner. Probably few.</p>
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		<title>By: packerfantastic</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2011 21:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hystoracle says: Oct 5, 2011 4:09 PM

this is the same support system that was there the first 3 times he got in trouble and didn’t do much to stop him from doing it a 4th time. If you break the rules and get suspended from your job, then you don’t get the ability to come back to work until your suspension is over.. that’s the way it works. If you want to play football don’t do drugs… or at least don’t get caught doing drugs. There are consequences to the choices we make and the things we do.

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I agree there are consequences to the things we do, but let&#039;s say we are not talking about a professional football player.  Let&#039;s say we are talking about a software developer in a high tech firm.  If he was arrested (not jailed) for an instance like this, would his company legally be able to suspend him until the legal system ran its course.  Beyond that, would he not only not be allowed to work for his current employer, but also no other employer in the entire high tech industry?

I get the NFL wanting to clean up the image and take a stand against this stuff, but in some regards, they are creating a situation where individuals will be repeat offenders.  A different approach might yield better results.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hystoracle says: Oct 5, 2011 4:09 PM</p>
<p>this is the same support system that was there the first 3 times he got in trouble and didn’t do much to stop him from doing it a 4th time. If you break the rules and get suspended from your job, then you don’t get the ability to come back to work until your suspension is over.. that’s the way it works. If you want to play football don’t do drugs… or at least don’t get caught doing drugs. There are consequences to the choices we make and the things we do.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>I agree there are consequences to the things we do, but let&#8217;s say we are not talking about a professional football player.  Let&#8217;s say we are talking about a software developer in a high tech firm.  If he was arrested (not jailed) for an instance like this, would his company legally be able to suspend him until the legal system ran its course.  Beyond that, would he not only not be allowed to work for his current employer, but also no other employer in the entire high tech industry?</p>
<p>I get the NFL wanting to clean up the image and take a stand against this stuff, but in some regards, they are creating a situation where individuals will be repeat offenders.  A different approach might yield better results.</p>
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		<title>By: voiceofrealism</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2011 21:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think Rodgers&#039; words are slightly off. Whether or not being with his teammates would have helped Jolly&#039;s willpower, it&#039;s not the leagues responsibility to babysit it&#039;s players. In the end it was Jolly&#039;s fault he couldn&#039;t control himself.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Rodgers&#8217; words are slightly off. Whether or not being with his teammates would have helped Jolly&#8217;s willpower, it&#8217;s not the leagues responsibility to babysit it&#8217;s players. In the end it was Jolly&#8217;s fault he couldn&#8217;t control himself.</p>
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		<title>By: jasncondit</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2011 21:02:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow Favre was right about teaching Rodgers everything he knows. He taught him to say stupid crap at random times just like Brett did.  Or maybe it was the concussion we gave him near the end of the regular season last year.  Goooooooooooooooooooo Lions!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow Favre was right about teaching Rodgers everything he knows. He taught him to say stupid crap at random times just like Brett did.  Or maybe it was the concussion we gave him near the end of the regular season last year.  Goooooooooooooooooooo Lions!</p>
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		<title>By: jabroni1</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2011 21:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It couldn&#039;t be because of his 3rd drug arrest in 3 years last monday could it? Mystery solved Inspector Clousseau]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It couldn&#8217;t be because of his 3rd drug arrest in 3 years last monday could it? Mystery solved Inspector Clousseau</p>
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		<title>By: howley1</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2011 21:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I say the Packers deserve some of the blame for drafting a druggie.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say the Packers deserve some of the blame for drafting a druggie.</p>
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		<title>By: jobotjones</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2011 21:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[. . I think the Commissioner’s done a great job of cleaning up some of the stuff in the league. That said, if you take a guy away from his support system . . . I don’t think that’s helping.”
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Translation: violators should be suspended just not when they play for my team.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>. . I think the Commissioner’s done a great job of cleaning up some of the stuff in the league. That said, if you take a guy away from his support system . . . I don’t think that’s helping.”<br />
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Translation: violators should be suspended just not when they play for my team.</p>
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		<title>By: farmmbig</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2011 20:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As Judge Smails once stated, &quot;The World needs ditchdiggers too!&quot; at Danny Noonan (Caddyshack)

I wonder if Aaron Rodgers feels as bad for the numerous other druggies that can&#039;t clean THEMSELVES up in order to maintain a job.

Just focus on throwing the football, dummy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Judge Smails once stated, &#8220;The World needs ditchdiggers too!&#8221; at Danny Noonan (Caddyshack)</p>
<p>I wonder if Aaron Rodgers feels as bad for the numerous other druggies that can&#8217;t clean THEMSELVES up in order to maintain a job.</p>
<p>Just focus on throwing the football, dummy.</p>
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