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Clay Matthews: Favre’s snub will motivate Rodgers

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Brett Favre’s comment that he was surprised Aaron Rodgers didn’t win a Super Bowl in Green Bay sooner has not gone unnoticed in the Packers’ locker room.

Packers linebacker Clay Matthews said today on Jim Rome Is Burning that he doesn’t want to make a big deal of Favre’s comment, but that Matthews thinks it’s just the kind of thing that motivates Rodgers.

“I’m not going to get involved with that, but I know 12,” Matthews said, referencing Rodgers’ jersey number. “He hears those comments. It definitely fuels the fire. He’s playing outstanding ball but it’s only going to continue to exacerbate the situation and continue to step his game up, so I’m just looking forward to having him on my team and to see what he is able to do.”

Rome then asked if Matthews had a problem with what Favre said.

“I’m sure Aaron has a bigger problem,” Matthews said. “Backhanded comments like that, I’m sure it hits a core with Aaron.  He’s a competitor.  He takes everything that people say about him, the criticisms, and puts it on display on Sunday.”

Rodgers has always taken the high road publicly, but teammates have said Rodgers feels bitter about the way Favre treated him, particularly by jerking Rodgers around with retirements and unretirements.  Favre’s statement this week isn’t going to make that relationship any better.

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127 Responses to “Clay Matthews: Favre’s snub will motivate Rodgers”
  1. nagaswan says: Oct 5, 2011 5:13 PM

    I surprised Favre only won one superbowl, oh wait, no I’m surprised he won one.

  2. mypackersownyourteam says: Oct 5, 2011 5:16 PM

    Just another ho-hum dominating performance (400 yards passing, 6 total TD’s) from the world’s best quarterback against Denver last week. Now Favre drops these comments right before the Packers get a nationally televised game in prime time vs a team they dismantled in the playoffs last year. Rodgers is going to go ape sh.it all over the Falcons. Gonna be fun to watch… for Packers fans

  3. Southpaw says: Oct 5, 2011 5:19 PM

    I’m so confused on how it’s an insult for Favre to say that… sounds like a compliment to me – saying he’s surprised Rogers didn’t win a SB right off the bat? “I’m surprised were weren’t champions sooner”?? Sounds like praise.

  4. thejuddstir says: Oct 5, 2011 5:20 PM

    oh golly gee-whiz, Erin feels bad for Jolly Johnny and the ‘Roid king feels bad for Erin…..stay tuned for tomorrow’s show of “As the Redneck’s Talk”, when MM will kiss TT’s behind and Smiley Finley will predict the end of the world and Daisy Driver tries to get Erin and Brett to kiss and make up………..really, you can’t make this crap up, grow up boys, you’re suppose to be adults.

  5. gregm5s7 says: Oct 5, 2011 5:20 PM

    People are trying to say this was a compliment. It’s pretty much discounting what Rodgers did last year, and just a hint of the divide between Rodgers and Favre. Rodgers is a self made man, and instrumental in the regular season, playoff run, and the superbowl success they had.

  6. nineroutsider says: Oct 5, 2011 5:21 PM

    As if 12 needs extra motivation seeing as he is the best QB in football. Period. Sorry to the Brady/Manning/Brees supporter, but 12 is the best.

  7. favreforever says: Oct 5, 2011 5:21 PM

    Waaaaahhhjahs “hears those things”. He has rabbit ears. And rabbit teeth and a rabbit nose, and a cute little mustache that wiggles when he nibbles.

  8. isphet71 says: Oct 5, 2011 5:23 PM

    Don’t you think it would be nice to see an NFL legend like Favre just say something nice about Aaron Rodgers without any caveats? Rodgers certainly deserves any praise given to him.

    -A Lions fan

  9. esotericmindguy says: Oct 5, 2011 5:25 PM

    To people who aren’t packers fans and haven’t followed Favre this may seem like a compliment. But he’s been doing this sh*t for years. Most talented team brett? Your 97′ team was the only team in the history of the league to have the #1 offense and #1 defense….and you managed to lose a super bowl with them in 98′ as a 14 point favorite!!!!! Just go away, Rodgers is a better QB and he won’t choke away playoff games like you did.

  10. joetoronto says: Oct 5, 2011 5:25 PM

    PFT can post unlimited Favre stories and you silly Packer fans will jump allover every single one.

    Wow.

  11. isphet71 says: Oct 5, 2011 5:26 PM

    Favre’s sour grapes are reminiscent of the jerkface ’72 Dolphins that no one likes any more, either.

    Show some dignity.

  12. pack15forever says: Oct 5, 2011 5:26 PM

    The only reason the Packers didn’t win a Super Bowl earlier is because Favre was the QB. Favre is a bitter and jealous old man. Stick to mowing your lawn Brett.

  13. sakatak says: Oct 5, 2011 5:26 PM

    @ the juddstir
    are you excited about the news surrounding the Vikings?

  14. marcuswelby70 says: Oct 5, 2011 5:28 PM

    nineroutsider says:
    Oct 5, 2011 5:21 PM
    As if 12 needs extra motivation seeing as he is the best QB in football. Period. Sorry to the Brady/Manning/Brees supporter, but 12 is the best.

    ——————————————-

    I would take any one of the four to start my team.

  15. mypackersownyourteam says: Oct 5, 2011 5:28 PM

    “I’m so confused on how it’s an insult for Favre to say that… sounds like a compliment to me”
    _________________________________

    You must get confused easily. Or haven’t ever followed the Favre/Rodgers/Packers situation.

    Favre is basically saying that Rodgers inherited the most talented team he’s ever seen. Favre refuses to acknowledge that the Defense was banged up and terrible and that the Special Teams was one of the worst in franchise history. He, along with many other Packers fans at the time, pointed the the finger at Rodgers for the 6-10 record and then the early playoff exit in AZ the following season (when Rodgers and the offense put up 40+ points)

  16. dapresident says: Oct 5, 2011 5:31 PM

    This is stupid and blown up i dont see why this is a insult ppl are just grasping at straws. Everybody wanted Bertt Farve to retied and be out of the spotlight but yet everytime the man say something the media puts him back there

  17. bozosforall says: Oct 5, 2011 5:31 PM

    Only one thing is certain: The Packers and their fan base are challenging the Pats and their fan base for the title of “Biggest Crybabies in the NFL”.

  18. 7pints says: Oct 5, 2011 5:32 PM

    Here we go with the manufactured motivation. It was a compliment, Clay! We all know Brett Favre is a country boy, ex-player and isn’t a wordsmith.

  19. skimbell says: Oct 5, 2011 5:32 PM

    “nagaswan says:
    Oct 5, 2011 5:13 PM
    I surprised Favre only won one superbowl, oh wait, no I’m surprised he won one.”

    He wouldn’t have the one he got if the MVP of the game-Desmond Howard-hadn’t pulled Farve’s ass out of the fire.

    Geez I wish TT would give a #4 jersey to some back-up punter and get the will they/wont they on that count off the table.

  20. pappysarcasm says: Oct 5, 2011 5:32 PM

    thejuddstir says:
    Oct 5, 2011 5:20 PM
    oh golly gee-whiz, Erin feels bad for Jolly Johnny and the ‘Roid king feels bad for Erin…..stay tuned for tomorrow’s show of “As the Redneck’s Talk”, when MM will kiss TT’s behind and Smiley Finley will predict the end of the world and Daisy Driver tries to get Erin and Brett to kiss and make up………..really, you can’t make this crap up, grow up boys, you’re suppose to be adults.

    Speaking of immaturity, go look in the mirror, Boy!!

    Clayman is right, this will fire Rodgers up even more than good ol’ Brett already has! Anybody who does not like to see GB win should find something better to do with their sundays!

  21. teal379 says: Oct 5, 2011 5:32 PM

    nineroutsider says:
    Oct 5, 2011 5:21 PM
    As if 12 needs extra motivation seeing as he is the best QB in football. Period. Sorry to the Brady/Manning/Brees supporter, but 12 is the best.
    *****************************************

    I don’t know about best but certainly no one is playing BETTER. That’s undeniable.

    I do believe that if he wins another SB this year it’s Brady/Rodgers and that’s all. I can’t put Manning there due to the deficiency at SB#’s and the fact he’s got a losing record in the playoffs.

    That’s for the league – as for the Packers, it goes Starr, Rodgers and then Favre.

    Just on the team – Aaron’s played at a much higher level over his career than Brett did and in Brett’s hay day he did have some STUD defenses and special teams units. Last years D was pert good but Aaron’s usually playing on a short field due to the HORRIBLE special teams McCarthy seems to tolerate.

  22. batterychucker25 says: Oct 5, 2011 5:33 PM

    “Look at MEEEEE”- Brett Favre

  23. zimaman says: Oct 5, 2011 5:36 PM

    okay dont get me going on the Brett Fart Farve all time leading interception chucker in the NFL – by a wide margin remarks

    Aaron Rodgers just ignore the old cranky bastard cause you are a way way way better QB and are playing great football

  24. leroy36 says: Oct 5, 2011 5:38 PM

    Favre is just jealous that 12 won SuperBowl MVP and he didn’t.

  25. jgo304 says: Oct 5, 2011 5:38 PM

    Brent is a bitter old man who has completely lost the respect of the packer nation. Those 3 blown nfc championships must really weigh heavily on him.

    Not to mention arod is already a better qb than brent ever was. Rodgers doesnt choke in the clutch and dont lob passes into the air for no reason.

  26. nebster21 says: Oct 5, 2011 5:38 PM

    Rodgers is enjoying a championship built team. Its not like he built the team.

  27. kylexitron says: Oct 5, 2011 5:41 PM

    The only drama queens bigger than Favre are the media and fans that blow everything the guy says or does out of proportion.

    OMG Favre complimented the team’s talent level, what a jerk!!!

    Just stop.

  28. jrmbadger says: Oct 5, 2011 5:43 PM

    Rodgers himself responded to Favre by showing that he’s not only a better QB, but a better person.

    His only response “the only thing I want to say is I’m just really proud of our guys and what our team did last season. It was a great accomplishment. It took all 53 of those guys and obviously it got the attention of a lot of people and we’re proud of the fact that we achieved the ultimate goal as a team.”

    http://packersnews.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/20111005/PKR01/111005098/Rodgers-responds-sort-Favre-comments?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|FRONTPAGE

  29. thejuddstir says: Oct 5, 2011 5:46 PM

    For the packer fans who claim to know everything about anything green and gold, you seem to forget that Rodgers inherited a team that had played in the NFC Championship game just the year before and had went something like 13-3 that year………whereas your antichrist BF inherited a packer team that wasn’t above .500 for 15-20 years prior….I’m a Pats fan and I can see what BF meant by what he said. And for those Packer fans that think Rodgers is the best QB ever………quit sniffin’ the glue or whatever it is you do out there in fly-over country. Let’s wait until he has as many records as Brady, as many SB’s as Brady and let’s not forget, Brady did it all with a bunch of no-names, kinda tells you it was Brady!!!

  30. txxxchief says: Oct 5, 2011 5:47 PM

    Wow, I doubt Favre was trying to snub Aaron Rodgers. It seemed to me that he was trying to praise him. It surely sucks that the whole world has become a bunch of crybabies who are insulted so easily.

  31. philshady25 says: Oct 5, 2011 5:47 PM

    Favre is like kicking a bum out of a cardboard box… I loved this guy. Grew up watching him for 17 years. Have grown to disgust him in the past 5 years. He’s burned bridges with all Packers fans except the die hard Bretts that root for him over the team. Which is ridiculous. Leave Pack nation the alone. Rodgers has handled this situation unbelivably well. He’s a better QB right now than Favre ever was. Look at the #’s homeboi

  32. favreforever says: Oct 5, 2011 5:47 PM

    “Your afternoon traffic report shows traffic to be almost non existant throughout Wisconsin. Apparently due to a Brett Favre article on PFT. Good time to visit the out of state relatives, folks. Or test just how fast your car will go on an open freeway.”.

  33. buckybadger says: Oct 5, 2011 5:47 PM

    Are we still in the lockout where we are hunting for stories? Come on guys, lets talk football.

  34. firerogergoodell says: Oct 5, 2011 5:49 PM

    Maybe somebody should “snub” Clay then, if that’s how it works. 1 sack in 4 games LOL. Can you be anymore overrated than this guy? Can’t believe he was EVER in DPOY consideration. Not to mention that this is his last year in the NFL before HGH testing starts. I’m guessing we will see his production drop similarly to Brian Cushing’s (if it hasn’t already).

  35. medtxpack says: Oct 5, 2011 5:50 PM

    Poor Falcons….

  36. skimbell says: Oct 5, 2011 5:51 PM

    I thought that Brent said that the Viqueen team that he was on was the most talented team that he’s ever played on.
    What the hell’s with this clown? He sounds like a high school girl talking about the prom.

  37. stixzidinia says: Oct 5, 2011 5:52 PM

    Once upon a time it was Favre’s worst nightmare to see Rodgers win a Super Bowl in Green Bay. Now that Favre has recovered from that devastating blow his new worst nightmare is Rodgers winning multiple SB’s in Green Bay……effectively gutting what little remains of Favre’s legacy in Green Bay. This too, i’m sure will happen. And no, i’m not a Packers fan.

  38. thejuddstir says: Oct 5, 2011 5:53 PM

    pappysarcasm says:
    Oct 5, 2011 5:32 PM
    thejuddstir says:
    Oct 5, 2011 5:20 PM
    oh golly gee-whiz, Erin feels bad for Jolly Johnny and the ‘Roid king feels bad for Erin…..stay tuned for tomorrow’s show of “As the Redneck’s Talk”, when MM will kiss TT’s behind and Smiley Finley will predict the end of the world and Daisy Driver tries to get Erin and Brett to kiss and make up………..really, you can’t make this crap up, grow up boys, you’re suppose to be adults.

    Speaking of immaturity, go look in the mirror, Boy!!

    Clayman is right, this will fire Rodgers up even more than good ol’ Brett already has! Anybody who does not like to see GB win should find something better to do with their sundays!

    ————–this is really too funny now, someone with an SN of “pappysarcasm” can’t seem to recognize “sarcasm” when it slaps him in the face. Must be that corn-fed (thru a still no less) upbringing out in the middle of nowhere. As others have discovered, it’s ez to get a packer fan riled as they would sell their first-born over a “game”, LOL

  39. dchuwo says: Oct 5, 2011 5:55 PM

    Favre’s teammates in his glory days in Green Bay: Levens, Bennett, Green, Chmura, Keith Jackson, Freeman, Brooks, Beebe, Winters, Mike Wahle, Tauscher, Clifton… defense, Reggie, Sean Jones, Santana Dotson, Gilbert Brown, Craig Newsome, LeRoy Butler… and he continues to say Rodgers has more talent? Wonder what those guys think of that?

    Packer fans can point to more than 1 superbowl chance being blown on a poorly timed INT.

    The heart of this is that Favre is bitter. As an elite athlete, it had to crush his ego to hear that the Packers wanted Rodgers over him, and he continues to carry bitterness, which is resulting in him making comments that make him look more petty and bitter. Packer fans have to be grateful for all he gave, but that has to be wearing thin. Wonder how close they are to giving the punter #4?

  40. therealsmiley says: Oct 5, 2011 5:56 PM

    Or, you could look at it like a compliment. Rodgers is so good Favre thought he would win a Super Bowl sooner. That’s the way I took it. And Rodgers is that good. Hail!!

  41. txxxchief says: Oct 5, 2011 5:57 PM

    Alot of this debate about Farve’s supposed mistreatment of Rodgers is quite odd on many levels. It just occurred to me that maybe Rodgers is still fuming about his draft position. Does aaron Rodgers really have such low self esteem that he cannot tolerate any criticism, no matter how benign? As for Farve not being much of mentor to Aaron, that really was not Brett’s job. That is the responsibility of the coaching staff. Farve obvious felt that he still could play at a high level, and why really should we, the fans, expect a player to be a “mentor” in order to hasten his own departure?

  42. sergisbauer says: Oct 5, 2011 5:58 PM

    All the posters who can’t see that this was a backhanded compliment intend as a slight really are either incredibly ignorant of the background on this story, or are simply dense. That it was Favre being a bitter, small man is undeniable. But that has been his public persona for the last four years, so we shouldn’t be surprised.

    For those who say, “Favre has a point, Rodgers fell into a good situation,” well, no, he didn’t “fall into” anything. He was acquired by a general manager– Ted Thompson– with the eye for talent and the good judgement to see his potential. The same Ted Thompson who built the excellent team around Favre, and made it even better under Rodgers. Oh, and who had the foresight and vision to stick with Rodgers when Brett decided he wanted to “unretire.”

  43. romeisfallingagain says: Oct 5, 2011 5:58 PM

    Aaron Rodgers is so much better than Favre ever was, I can imagine it rubs the guy the wrong way a little bit. How could it not? The guy is only human.

    Think about it, he was the face of the Packers for years. He was truly the darling of the entire state and really the whole NFL. He deserves a lot of credit for helping turn the Pack into a great organization again. However, he’s already just a complete and total afterthought. Instead of mourning the loss of their great QB, (like Bronco and Dolphin fans are still doing to this day) the Packers have already found someone even better and are basically thrilled to be rid of the guy. That has to sting.

    He shouldn’t take it so personally, though. Rodgers is just that damn good.

  44. truepackerfan says: Oct 5, 2011 6:00 PM

    Brett doesn’t get any more attention because he went out on a terribly sour note, ruined his legacy, and now isn’t in the spotlight because there is no relevance. Pretty sad he has to resort to this. Bart Starr and Aaron Rodgers would never do that.

  45. The Phantom Stranger says: Oct 5, 2011 6:00 PM

    Packers are looking for whatever motivation they can get so they can try to get to the Super Bowl again. How about just being professionals?

  46. theytukrjobs says: Oct 5, 2011 6:03 PM

    Rodgers is kind of a sensitive guy and sort of a dick move by Favre to talk about him and his former team.

    I love how Favre keeps pointing out about that one time when he said it was the most talented team he ever played on and nobody believed him and they went NFC Champ game and blah blah blah.

    But I am actually disappointed that Favre didn’t say “you know I’m surprised they didn’t win the division in his second season when I crushed them twi…er wait lol I guess I’m not. Gosh I’m neat.”

  47. 1historian says: Oct 5, 2011 6:04 PM

    Favre is a jerk and an attention-junkie who gets more pathetic every time he opens his mouth.

    Brett – how can we miss you if you won’t go away?

  48. jessieboom says: Oct 5, 2011 6:06 PM

    I already have Rodgers ahead of Farve in my all-time rankings, and I aint no Packer fan!

  49. glac1 says: Oct 5, 2011 6:07 PM

    Matthews better concentrate on the Falcons because our defense is struggling BIG TIME right now and could get ripped by Atlanta.. As for Favre and Rodgers..who cares! I’m just glad they both were Packers! Not many organizations are fortunate enough to get “franchise” quarterbacks back to back.

  50. nineroutsider says: Oct 5, 2011 6:07 PM

    marcuswelby70 says: Oct 5, 2011 5:28 PM

    nineroutsider says:
    Oct 5, 2011 5:21 PM
    As if 12 needs extra motivation seeing as he is the best QB in football. Period. Sorry to the Brady/Manning/Brees supporter, but 12 is the best.
    ——————————————-
    I would take any one of the four to start my team.
    ———————————————————-
    As would I, but Rodgers is the best of them all is all I’m saying.

    I am a little biased though…I am a huge Cal fan and loved watching Aaron play and was bitterly disappointed that the Niners didn’t take him. I guess it was all part of Porky’s (my nickname for McCarthy) master plan…

  51. rajuncajun28 says: Oct 5, 2011 6:09 PM

    Does anyone care about Brett “the texting perv” Favre? And, enough with the Mr. Rogers love fest by the media….he is a good QB, not great yet….let’s move on….

  52. jvillenole says: Oct 5, 2011 6:10 PM

    @thejuddstir

    Tom Bundchen is NOT the best QB ever. Joe Montana holds that title. Montana never lost a SB. Especially with as talented of a team as Brady had when they lost to the Giants.

    Slake yourself!

  53. packfaninchitown says: Oct 5, 2011 6:10 PM

    Boy the Falcons are gonna be pissed…

  54. paulharghis says: Oct 5, 2011 6:13 PM

    jgo304 says:
    Oct 5, 2011 5:38 PM
    Brent is a bitter old man who has completely lost the respect of the packer nation. Those 3 blown nfc championships must really weigh heavily on him.

    Not to mention arod is already a better qb than brent ever was. Rodgers doesnt choke in the clutch and dont lob passes into the air for no reason.

    =================================
    Doesn’t choke? I seem to remember a fumble/punt against Arizona a few years back, you know, the one where Capers had to fart himself awake in the booth on national TV?

    It’s funny, when it comes to Aaron- it’s all his doing when they win-when they lose- it’s the refs or it’s a team game- but when it comes to Favre?

    It was the team that won and ALL his fault when they lost.
    Hypocritical, know nothing, inane, loudmouth fans- absolutely, without a doubt, the very worst fanbase in all of pro sports-ever.

    On a side note- if he still needs crap like this “supposed” put down to motivate him, he’s a thin skinned whiny baby. Christ how pathetic.

  55. madisonave99 says: Oct 5, 2011 6:24 PM

    This whole thing is blown outta proportion DRAMA…and thanks Clay Matthews for feeding right into ESPN (or sports-themed TMZ as I call it) ‘s drama by these ridiculous “its gonna fuel #12’s fire” statements. I mean really, when are people gonna let Favre-Gate go?? He dug your franchise outta the ashes it had been in since the Lombardi era, and brought you a title and loved playing there to boot

    And by the way for all the “Packer fans”, Favre wasn’t the reason they lost SB 32..the defense is the unit that allowed Terrell Davis to run all over the field and score TD after TD that game

  56. Little Earthquake says: Oct 5, 2011 6:25 PM

    You can tell when someone’s words are genuine. Bart Starr and even Don Majkowski were nothing but gracious and deferential toward Favre when he was QB. Too bad he can’t pay it forward.

  57. scudbot says: Oct 5, 2011 6:27 PM

    Anybody heard anything about Vic So’oto?

  58. leatherface2012 says: Oct 5, 2011 6:29 PM

    i have another question. why doesnt rodgers have
    6300 completions, 71,838 yards, 508 tds until rodgers hits those marks….oh yeah didnt rodgers alreay blow a consecutive game streak in 2010? oops long way now till 297 consecutive starts arron

  59. truthserum4u says: Oct 5, 2011 6:38 PM

    1) It’s not an insult if someone thought you would accomplish something sooner than you did. High expectations is a compliment. Now if Favre said he was surprised Rodgers won at all; then we’re talking insult.

    2) If Rodgers needs criticism for motivation then he’s in trouble because he’s not going to get a lot of that. That’s not an easy motivational tool anyways unless you received criticism early and often in life.

    3) How is it Favre jerked Rodgers around again? He retired and unretired once – just ONCE as a Packer. In revisionist history it was more.

    4) I’m quite certain Matthew’s use of the word “exacerbate” sent 90% of Packer fans scurrying for a dictionary. They were relieved to find it didn’t have to do with self indulgence as they first thought.

  60. slammincamnewton says: Oct 5, 2011 6:42 PM

    The NFL is what have you done for me lately. Last I checked, the Packers are the most recent Super Bowl winners. What you do Brett? UMAD!?

  61. starfan79 says: Oct 5, 2011 6:43 PM

    So I though Favres statement was pretty spot on.. What’s the problem? 12 is a good player, 12 did get drafted onto a good team, 12 did get to sit and study for a few years behind a sure fire hall of famer… So what was back handed about that? I thought when favre said he was surprised 12 didn’t win a superbowl sooner it was a compliment.. These guys are a bunch of drama queens.

  62. commandercornpone says: Oct 5, 2011 6:44 PM

    favre was a gunslinger, and was fun to watch. but it’s over bert.

    rodgers is a freakin surgeon. better than broke neck manning already.

  63. tiffpats4eva says: Oct 5, 2011 6:44 PM

    nineroutsider says:
    Oct 5, 2011 5:21 PM
    As if 12 needs extra motivation seeing as he is the best QB in football. Period. Sorry to the Brady/Manning/Brees supporter, but 12 is the best.
    **********************

    He had a good year last year, but Brady has 3 SB wins.

    He’s the best.

  64. warvette says: Oct 5, 2011 6:46 PM

    for everyone saying it wasn’t meant as an insult: i just listened to the audio. knowing the favrespeak, and being a fan, i’d have to say that when i first read what he said, it didn’t sound too bad. hearing it, i am sure he was backhanding that “compliment”. 12 is 3×4.

  65. truthserum4u says: Oct 5, 2011 6:47 PM

    mypackersownyourteam says:
    Oct 5, 2011 5:16 PM

    Just another ho-hum dominating performance (400 yards passing, 6 total TD’s) from the world’s best quarterback against Denver last week.

    nineroutsider says:
    Oct 5, 2011 5:21 PM

    As if 12 needs extra motivation seeing as he is the best QB in football. Period. Sorry to the Brady/Manning/Brees supporter, but 12 is the best.

    And the rest stating the same thing…

    ———————————-

    Based on what exactly?

    Super Bowl Rings?
    Stats?
    Wins?
    The first four games of a season?

    There is no measurement that gives your statements any credence.

  66. jrmbadger says: Oct 5, 2011 6:48 PM

    I guess I fail to see how trying to prove a doubter wrong (while not saying anything publicly about it) as motivation to improve your game is a bad thing as some have opined? Someone explain that to me….. That’s how all intense competitors act (see: Michael Jordan).

    To be honest, that’s the difference between a guy like Rodgers and a guy like McNabb. Donny Mac just lets all the criticism of an 0-4 start and horrible accuracy and mechanics issues slide off his back like they’re nothin’. Of course, he’ll never improve and the Vikings will have to eventually bench him for Ponder.

    Rodgers on the other hand uses it as fuel to improve his game and win more superbowls.

    Nothing wrong with that in my opinion.

  67. obamasballsack says: Oct 5, 2011 6:49 PM

    Aaron Rodgers: I was sent by God.

    Tom Brady: I didn’t send anybody.

    You have a long way to go Rodgers.

  68. slickzmoney says: Oct 5, 2011 6:51 PM

    You Favre haters just plain suck.

  69. packfaninpackland says: Oct 5, 2011 6:52 PM

    To: skimbell says at 5:32 PM

    “Geez I wish TT would give a #4 jersey to some back-up punter and get the will they/wont they on that count off the table.’
    ——————————–
    Do realize how much of a dumbass this statement makes you look like ???

    No, I guess YOU wouldn’t !

    Please change your User ID to Dumbbell.

  70. jjljr says: Oct 5, 2011 6:52 PM

    attn: sports media personnel … please, please, please stop interviewing Brett Favre. he’s really retired now. no one wants him, and we don’t want to hear from him until his HOF speech. (and we’ll probably skip that, too)

    with all of the great stories out there, why do you keep sticking a microphone in front of Brett Favre? can’t you do something more productive? at this point, I’d rather hear from the Olsen twins.

  71. favreforever says: Oct 5, 2011 6:54 PM

    Waaahhhjahs is a whiny, morose, little lump of cold porridge. He could win 12 SBs and Favre would still be more respected and liked. That won’t change, either.

  72. itwasagoodrun says: Oct 5, 2011 6:55 PM

    Most of what Favre said was true. I don’t think anyone can argue that the Packers have the best quintet set of receivers in the league. Even with all their injuries last year, they had depth at every position and didn’t have a devastating injury outside of Finely (spare me the 20 other replaceable players nonsense — including the overrated Barnett). Heck, their fifth receiver could start for 20 other teams and they have the best, most freakishly athletic TE in the game. If Aaron doesn’t win 2 more superbowls with this core of players he will have underachieved in my book.

    I remember when Favre made the comment that the 07′ team was the most gifted team he’d ever played on, I thought he was crazy, but it played out pretty well until the -50 below zero game in GB. ARod then took that same team to a 6-10 season the following year and every sconnie was calling for McCarthy and Thompson’s head. Funny how things have changed…

    Bottom Line is that Favre is bitter and jealous and needs to let it go. I think Arod has a chance to be the greatest packer qb ever if he stays upright, but that will be a big if, especially with the concussion sensitivity. Packer fans who say he is already ahead of #4 need a brain scan, they don’t realize how tough he was for all those years, Arod needs another superbowl and a couple of MVP’s until he can say he’s better. Period.

  73. innerlign says: Oct 5, 2011 6:56 PM

    Rodgers is way better than Favre ever was, and that makes Favre angry. I’m not even a Packers fan and it pisses me off.

  74. wayupsouth says: Oct 5, 2011 6:58 PM

    mypackersownyourteam says:

    “Rodgers is going to go ape sh.it all over the Falcons. Gonna be fun to watch… for Packers fans”

    Yeah. Gonna be fun for Saints fans too.

  75. breakfastbarron says: Oct 5, 2011 7:02 PM

    GO away Farve. Sounds like a little jealousy to me. Rodgers has the ability to win multiple Super Bowls, something Farve couldn’t do in 20 years. Rodgers has been a starter in GB for 3 seasons. I used to like Farve, but the retirement, un-retirement stuff the last few years has dimmed his star. And it disrespected Rodgers, too.

  76. axespray says: Oct 5, 2011 7:05 PM

    what’s with all the chief/viking fans commenting on this Packer related Favre stuff?

    You come in and get in your witty line like you have a clue of the situation when you are more completely oblivious to this situation than Vick is when he sees a blitz….

    “You think you know, but you really don’t know.”
    – jim mora.

  77. j972 says: Oct 5, 2011 7:07 PM

    rodgers couldn’t carry Favre’s athletic supporter.

  78. smoothjimmyapollo says: Oct 5, 2011 7:09 PM

    “Brady did it all with a bunch of no-names…”

    What’s Brady’s playoff record since the Pats stopped videotaping their opponents’ defensive signals?

  79. axespray says: Oct 5, 2011 7:12 PM

    joetoronto says:Oct 5, 2011 5:25 PM
    “PFT can post unlimeted Farve storys and you silly Packer fans will jump allover evry single one.Wow.”

    ^ Not sure what your point is considering it’s a Packer related story…but considering you go out of your way to comment on every Packer story, I wouldn’t be talking.

    And to everyone that doesn’t get it…
    This “Compliment” can be considered right up there with saying “____ is a game manager!”
    which is basically saying the QB is carried by everyone else on the team which is a slap in the face considering Rodgers carried the team when we had no defense (08), no oline (09), and no run game (’10).

    Then you’ve got Skip Bayless on top of all this and that’s just a straight up crime against humanity.

  80. jackfnburton says: Oct 5, 2011 7:12 PM

    Imagine how charitable No. 4 is gonna be when No. 12 picks up another ring this year in Indy. I believe that would be approximately DOUBLE what Favre has.

  81. stixzidinia says: Oct 5, 2011 7:13 PM

    Let’s wait until he has as many records as Brady, as many SB’s as Brady and let’s not forget, Brady did it all with a bunch of no-names, kinda tells you it was Brady!!!

    ——————————

    Brady had a few things in his favor as well:

    1) He also inherited a championship calibur team…..evidenced by the fact that they “won” 3 very early on.

    2)With regard to Brady’s records, he came along at a time when the NFL has effectively erased defensive football….especially as it relates to pass defense.

    3) Brady had the opposing team’s defensive signals, a system of filming those signals, and a known savant (Ernie Adams) to break them down quickly (halftime + 3rd quarter) for use during the 4th quarter of those games.

  82. stellarperformance says: Oct 5, 2011 7:22 PM

    thejuddstir says: Oct 5, 2011 5:20 PM
    …oh golly gee-whiz, Erin feels bad for Jolly Johnny and the ‘Roid king feels bad for Erin…..
    ——————————————————————

    Who?

  83. axespray says: Oct 5, 2011 7:22 PM

    paulharghis says:Oct 5, 2011 6:13 PM
    1: “doesn’t choke? I seem to remember a fumble/punt against Arizona a few years back.”

    I also seem to remember a certain franchise choking back to back to back first half leads in consecutive weeks….Then losing to the cheifs.
    When it comes to choking, I wouldn’t be using that as a weapon of insult if I were a viking fan trash talking a Superbowl MVP.

    2: “It’s funny, when it comes to Aaron- it’s all his doing when they win-when they lose- it’s the refs or it’s a team game- ”

    Probably cause we’ve seen time after time, Rodgers leading a TD drive only to see the Defense/Special Teams give up a big play and cost us. That’s why seeing out D and ST not choke against the Steelers was such a relief.

    3: “Hypocritical, know nothing, inane, loudmouth fans- absolutely, without a doubt, the very worst fanbase in all of pro sports-ever.”

    You’re the one ripping on a guy for “choking.”

    4: “On a side note- if he still needs crap like this “supposed” put down to motivate him, he’s a thin skinned whiny baby. Christ how pathetic.”

    Brady still uses the 2000 draft snub to motivate himself…. seems to have worked out for that skinny QB and all 3 of his rings/2 MVPs.
    By the way, “Whiny Baby” …. yet you’re seen here crying whenever there’s an article that has to do with the Packers.

  84. sycl0ps says: Oct 5, 2011 7:23 PM

    This is ridiculous. I don’t think #4 was disrespecting #12 at all and those words are now being twisted so it can be used as motivational material. If #12 needs something of this sort to get motivated for the NFL…… then he has larger issues that needs to be dealt with. Grow up and move on. Nothing to see here. Brett Favre has RETIRED!!

  85. bealen says: Oct 5, 2011 7:23 PM

    So would it have been a compliment if he would have said “I’m surprised they won it after Rodgers was only starting for 3 years.”

    Isn’t Favre just saying that he thinks Rodgers was good enough to bring them to a Super Bowl and he’s surprised they hadn’t gotten there yet because there was that much talent there?

  86. benniehifive says: Oct 5, 2011 7:24 PM

    Favre said that things didn’t “click” for Rodgers until the middle of last season, and he thought it would have happened sooner. I don’t get how that is a backhanded slap at Rodgers as much as it is pointing out exactly what happened. everybody else that has watched the last 4 years under Rodgers should know the same thing. He would always take the 5 yard gain on 3rd and 14 because he wasn’t comfortable enough to wait for the receivers to get open or had enough trust in the receivers to make a play. since he has started doing that this offense has been just about unstoppable.

  87. stellarperformance says: Oct 5, 2011 7:24 PM

    favreforever says: Oct 5, 2011 6:54 PM

    Waaahhhjahs is a whiny, morose, little lump of cold porridge. He could win 12 SBs and Favre would still be more respected and liked. That won’t change, either.
    ——————————————————————–

    You are so FOS I don’t know where to begin. Favre is a self-centered egomaniac with a severe superiority complex. No surprise people like you identify with him.

  88. glac1 says: Oct 5, 2011 7:27 PM

    How lucky we are to have two great quarterbacks back to back…

  89. welzy says: Oct 5, 2011 7:37 PM

    truthserum4u says:Oct 5, 2011 6:47 PM

    Based on what exactly?
    Super Bowl Rings?
    Stats?
    Wins?
    The first four games of a season?
    There is no measurement that gives your statements any credence.
    ————————————————

    The statement was that Rodgers is the best QB in football. The measurement would be Reigning Super Bowl MVP on an undefeated Reigning Super Bowl Championship team. Do you have a better measurement? Keep drinking the truthserum…

  90. calloustongue says: Oct 5, 2011 7:43 PM

    Rodgers is the better QB and better person. Look at his stats while he’s been starting compared to Brett’s 1st 4 years. Measuring him aginst Brett’s whole career is unfair. Rodgers is having the better start to his career, hands down.

    During Favre’s MVP years he was hooked on Vicodin, an admitted alcoholic, cheated on his wife, and was forced into rehab by the league before the 96 season. Read his book, it’s all in there.

    Rodgers is 10x the man Brett ever was. Anyone who says different doesn’t know what they are talking about. Read up on the guy, great player, teammate, and overrall human being.

    Brett was a legendary QB, but his time is over, it’s Rodgers turn to write his own legend.

  91. houndog50 says: Oct 5, 2011 7:50 PM

    “The most talented team he eve seen” Favre says, and he could be correct. He was standing there looking at the “Other” 52 players, and the talent improved the following year, when he left!
    Never has been, or will there ever be, a bigger “CHOKER” than Favre! Well, maybe the juddster and favreforever, as they choke on Brett’s d&#@.

  92. TheDPR says: Oct 5, 2011 7:55 PM

    Brett Favre hasn’t been relevant this century. Yeah, he won some games and made some playoffs. So did Donovan McNabb. Trent Freaking Dilfer has as many Super Bowl wins as Brett Favre and more this century.

    Favre is a legend because HE WON’T GO AWAY!

    It’s 2011. Time to move on. He was a pretty good QB once but WAY overrated and overhyped.

  93. RussianBreadMaker says: Oct 5, 2011 8:14 PM

    Clay Matthews: I need more steroids.

  94. scudbot says: Oct 5, 2011 8:25 PM

    RussianBreadMaker, you consistently post worthless crap. Can’t tell if you’re trying to be funny or not.

  95. truthserum4u says: Oct 5, 2011 8:33 PM

    axespray says:

    what’s with all the chief/viking fans commenting on this Packer related Favre stuff?

    [This comes from a person that spends half the day trolling on Vikings threads. Seriously?]

    axespray says:

    And to everyone that doesn’t get it…
    This “Compliment” can be considered right up there with saying “____ is a game manager!”
    which is basically saying the QB is carried by everyone else on the team which is a slap in the face considering Rodgers carried the team when we had no defense (08), no oline (09), and no run game (’10).

    [ Did you miss the part where Favre said Rodgers is tremendous?]

    jackfnburton says:

    Imagine how charitable No. 4 is gonna be when No. 12 picks up another ring this year in Indy. I believe that would be approximately DOUBLE what Favre has.

    [Dilfer, B Johnson, Rypien & Hostetler all have more rings than Marino, Moom & Kelly - so what?]

    stixzidinia says:

    Brady had a few things in his favor as well:

    1) He also inherited a championship calibur team…..evidenced by the fact that they “won” 3 very early on.

    [They became championship calibur due to the QB play. They were 22-26 the previous 3 seasons prior to Brady and 0-2 before he took over in '01.]

    2)With regard to Brady’s records, he came along at a time when the NFL has effectively erased defensive football….especially as it relates to pass defense.

    [Doesn't this help Rodgers as well? ]

    3) Brady had the opposing team’s defensive signals, a system of filming those signals, and a known savant (Ernie Adams) to break them down quickly (halftime + 3rd quarter) for use during the 4th quarter of those games.

    [You can't break down film that fast. Even just to figure out signals.]

    axespray says:

    paulharghis says:Oct 5, 2011 6:13 PM
    1: “doesn’t choke? I seem to remember a fumble/punt against Arizona a few years back.”

    I also seem to remember a certain franchise choking back to back to back first half leads in consecutive weeks….Then losing to the cheifs.
    When it comes to choking, I wouldn’t be using that as a weapon of insult if I were a viking fan trash talking a Superbowl MVP.

    [What do the Vikings have to do with this article? He was simply correcting a previous comment. By the way, it wasn't consecutive; it was back-to-back-to-back! A three-peat so to speak.]

    2: “It’s funny, when it comes to Aaron- it’s all his doing when they win-when they lose- it’s the refs or it’s a team game- ”

    Probably cause we’ve seen time after time, Rodgers leading a TD drive only to see the Defense/Special Teams give up a big play and cost us. That’s why seeing out D and ST not choke against the Steelers was such a relief.

    [But the same fans must have been at the fridge when the Pack D gave up 4th & 26 as well as Al Harris letting Plax run free. Those same fans ignored Rodgers holding the ball and taking a sack (since removed from his game) refusing to throw into a tight spot (also since removed) and inexplicably kicking the ball to Dansby. That was his point.]

    4: “On a side note- if he still needs crap like this “supposed” put down to motivate him, he’s a thin skinned whiny baby. Christ how pathetic.”

    Brady still uses the 2000 draft snub to motivate himself…. seems to have worked out for that skinny QB and all 3 of his rings/2 MVPs.

    [I've never heard he uses this as motivation, or at least not still. Brady wasn't expected to be drafted high so how could it be a snub? Will say, the Rodgers slide on draft day was brutal. I mean get the freakin' cameras off the kid. Glad to see the return for that slide was a SB ring.]

  96. truthserum4u says: Oct 5, 2011 8:49 PM

    welzy says:
    Oct 5, 2011 7:37 PM
    truthserum4u says:Oct 5, 2011 6:47 PM

    Based on what exactly?
    Super Bowl Rings?
    Stats?
    Wins?
    The first four games of a season?
    There is no measurement that gives your statements any credence.
    ————————————————

    The statement was that Rodgers is the best QB in football. The measurement would be Reigning Super Bowl MVP on an undefeated Reigning Super Bowl Championship team. Do you have a better measurement? Keep drinking the truthserum…

    =========================

    So Eli Manning was the best QB in football in 2008 because he was the reigning Super Bowl MVP on an undefeated (also 4-0) reigning Super Bowl Championship team?

    You clearly don’t understand football if you need the numerous better measurements.

    You better put down the bottle and stop whatever it is you’re drinking.

  97. richmondhokie says: Oct 5, 2011 8:54 PM

    This is incredibly stupid. Anyone who thinks Favre was dissing Rodgers didn’t listen to the interview. Favre was very enthusiastic in his praise of Rodgers. And he’s ABSOLUTELY RIGHT that Rodgers fell into a good situation. He inherited a 13-3 team – and promptly led them to a 6-10 record. (Yeah, that first year, it didn’t look like the decision to dump Favre was all that smart.) He had great WRs who had already worked with Favre, and he had a solid coach and an organization that Favre helped resurrect from the grave. So yeah, Rodgers had a lot of advantages in his situation. It’s not dissing him to note that, it’s just truth. People also forget that for the first two years, he couldn’t finish a game, couldn’t win the tight ones, played poorly in the 4th quarter, etc. AND HE’S NEVER MANAGED TO WIN HIS DIVISION. So let’s not crown him the king just yet. At least Favre had a bunch of NFC North division titles to his credit, and he managed to win a lot of them with Mike Sherman as his coach and GM. That right there is worthy of the Hall of Fame. LOL

  98. eagleswin says: Oct 5, 2011 9:23 PM

    “Physically, and from a talent level, this is the best team I’ve ever been on.”

    Brett Favre, Oct 12, 2009, Minnesota Vikings.

    That’s what Brett Favre said in 2009 about the Vikings team. It seems like Brett uses that statement alot.

    Brett’s latest comment was a backhanded jab. Anytime the phrase “i’m suprised it took you this long” (to do something) is used, it is not a compliment.

  99. welzy says: Oct 5, 2011 9:40 PM

    RussianBreadMaker: I need more brains.

  100. stevenfbrackett says: Oct 5, 2011 9:40 PM

    Given that Rodgers was almost never allowed on the field to get a little real-life game playing experience when Favre was there – even when there was a minute left and a 20 pt score differential, even when Favre was so hurt he could barely walk or raise an arm or bend his fingers, the fact that he lead the team to a SuperBowl in 3 years regardless of who he had playing with him is pretty damn close to miraculous.

    Oh, and Brett, those players anyone could win with – they were all on injured reserve. Rodgers did it with a whole bunch of second and third stringers and even a couple of guys who walked in off the street.

    He just has far superior accuracy and makes far, far fewer ‘look at me!’ bad decisions. That’s how he did it.

    Rodgers is about the team. Favre thinks he IS the team. Still.

  101. eepobee says: Oct 5, 2011 9:44 PM

    clay matthews better hope this motivates him, cuz he’s done nothing this year. He and Erik Walden (who?) have the same number of tackles (~3/game) and sacks (1). shut your mouth until you actually show up to a game you stringy-haired roid head!

  102. 13xworldchamps says: Oct 5, 2011 9:44 PM

    thejuddstir says:
    Oct 5, 2011 5:46 PM

    I’m a Pats fan and I can see what BF meant by what he said. And for those Packer fans that think Rodgers is the best QB ever………quit sniffin’ the glue or whatever it is you do out there in fly-over country. Let’s wait until he has as many records as Brady, as many SB’s as Brady and let’s not forget, Brady did it all with a bunch of no-names, kinda tells you it was Brady!!!

    ————————————————-

    easy enough to do when you cheat and get illegal tapes of your opponents….and by the way, What’s Brady’s won lost in playoff games now? Those superbowls are in the past. He’ll never win another one.

  103. welzy says: Oct 5, 2011 9:54 PM

    truthserum4u says:Oct 5, 2011 8:49 PM

    So Eli Manning was the best QB in football in 2008 because he was the reigning Super Bowl MVP on an undefeated (also 4-0) reigning Super Bowl Championship team?

    You clearly don’t understand football if you need the numerous better measurements.

    You better put down the bottle and stop whatever it is you’re drinking.
    ———————————————–

    If you think numbers like yardage make the best QB, you clearly understand football less than me.

    OK, you want a number? How about one that applies to all QBs equally, the overall QB passer rating, that seems fair. Rodgers is far better than all other QBs this year. He has a 124.6 and Brady has a 111.3 rating. The difference between those two (13.3) is about the same as the difference between Brady and Alex Smith (13.6). That is significant. How about over their careers? Rodgers is the only QB with over 100 at 100.5, while Brady is at 95.7 for his career. I think Rodgers has a ways to go before he can be considered the best of all time, but the question was who is better now and you didn’t know how to measure it.

  104. callmecougar says: Oct 5, 2011 10:06 PM

    Who’s Brett Favre?

  105. granadafan says: Oct 5, 2011 10:51 PM

    Lest you all forget that Favre actively went OUT of his way to snub Rodgers and deadfast refuse to mentor or train any of his backups. He even did this a-hole move when he “retired”. You can’t blame the Packers for picking up the QB of the future when they tired of Favre’s annual “look at me” retirement speculation in a mad way to feed his gigantic ego.

    Rodney Harrison was right. Favre is all about Favre and no one else. He certainly didn’t care one iota about the teams he played for. Otherwise, he would have tried to not jerk around the existing QBs on the teams: Aaron Rodgers, Chad Pennington, Tavaris Jackson.

  106. keramidas21 says: Oct 5, 2011 10:55 PM

    esotericmindguy says: Oct 5, 2011 5:25 PM

    To people who aren’t packers fans and haven’t followed Favre this may seem like a compliment. But he’s been doing this sh*t for years. Most talented team brett? Your 97′ team was the only team in the history of the league to have the #1 offense and #1 defense….and you managed to lose a super bowl with them in 98′ as a 14 point favorite!!!!! Just go away, Rodgers is a better QB and he won’t choke away playoff games like you did.
    ——————————————
    Hey, not trying to burst your bubbles or anything, because I’m a huge Packers fan and have been my entire life, but the Chargers had the #1 offense and defense last year, so I’m not really sure why you said the Packers are the only team who ever did that.

    http://www.nfl.com/stats/team?seasonId=2010&seasonType=&Submit=Go

  107. pikkiwoki says: Oct 5, 2011 10:56 PM

    Uh oh. Tugging on Superman’s cape, bad news for the rest of the league.

  108. keramidas21 says: Oct 5, 2011 11:00 PM

    eepobee says: Oct 5, 2011 9:44 PM

    clay matthews better hope this motivates him, cuz he’s done nothing this year. He and Erik Walden (who?) have the same number of tackles (~3/game) and sacks (1). shut your mouth until you actually show up to a game you stringy-haired roid head!
    ————————————–
    I hate people like you. Stats lie. Clay Matthews has been taking on double teams and STILL getting pressure on the QB. He is stuffing runners behind the line and has been good in coverage. Anyone with a brain who knows about football would know that Clay Matthews is doing fine.

  109. deconjonesbitchslap says: Oct 5, 2011 11:15 PM

    This shows the media is shameful.

    Favre’s comments were COMPLIMENTS to the the ENTIRE organization. all of you are too dumb to realize it. you take lines out of context, and sell them with worthless headlines. and what’s worse is that you all fall for it. you don’t read the entire story.

  110. deconjonesbitchslap says: Oct 5, 2011 11:19 PM

    the fact that Rodgers is such a bitter person is just sad. my god. stop with this me against the world BS. what a cry baby.

    and clay: your neck is the size of my torso. you are a fraud, and a liar.

  111. das14 says: Oct 5, 2011 11:27 PM

    For crying out loud. It’s just football. Guess what there are some big egos in football. All I know is I”m glad I get it.

  112. raideralex99 says: Oct 5, 2011 11:35 PM

    Wow you Favre haters look like morons.
    If the Giants punter listens to his coach and kicks the ball out of bounds … Packers don’t even make the playoffs.
    Seriously you can knock Favre all you want but the facts don’t lie. He took a 4-12 Jets team to a winning record 9-7 and almost made the playoffs with an injury in his FIRST year with the Jets.
    Then in his first year with the Vikings he leads them to a 12-4 record and within one game of the SB except AP fumbles the game away along with afew questionable calls and Favre gets the blame.
    Last year to took alot of abuse and the blamed for a crappy Viking team … what’s th Vikings record this record 0-4 … I don’t hear McNabb getting a abused.
    Seriously you can hate a player all you want but you cannot deny when a player is good. Last year how many Viking games were in primetime because of Favre with RECORD tv numbers. I enjoy watching football and majority of the Favre games were great … not like that crap game on Monday between the Bucs and Colts.

  113. Deb says: Oct 5, 2011 11:42 PM

    If (big IF) any of the cretins mouthing off here had any marketable skills or a career they loved, something tells me they might be reluctant to walk away in their late 30s just because someone else was waiting in the wings. They, too, might have a tough time deciding whether to stay or go.

    A recent documentary on Bill Parcells really delved into how difficult it is for some people to move on. That’s not something Favre “did” to Rodgers; it’s a decision he struggled to make for himself. Montana/Young went through the same process. Bradshaw has admitted lying to the Steelers about an injury, causing them to pass on Pitt’s Marino, rather than admit it was time to hang it up.

    But when these things happen to Packers fans, it’s a neverending whinefest. Favre was supposed to buy himself a coffin, crawl inside, and be buried alive so they’d never have to see or hear him again, and Aaron could take over at his convenience. I love how we keep hearing about how classy Aaron was through all this but somehow everything he “privately” told his teammates has been made public. I dearly hope he goes through exactly the same emotional conflicts when his time to retire comes. It will be such fun to watch his former fans dumping all over him.

  114. purpleisreallypinkyouknow says: Oct 6, 2011 12:17 AM

    To every Favre flamer, to ever Rodgers doubter and to every true Packer fan that knows what kind of tool Brett Favre became….here you go.

    This past Sunday at Lambeau Field, the Packers held their annual alumni weekend in where this season, the 1961 NFL champions (and Vince Lombardi’s first title team) were honored. It is always stirring to see how respected and revered the legends of the game are by older fans that remember and by younger fans that appreciate the history of the franchise.

    To be sure, the Green Bay Packers have some of the most storied names in NFL history: Starr, Kramer, Taylor, Hornung, Nitschke, Hutson, and yes, Favre.

    Today, Brett Favre should be one of the most revered of the Packers alumni. His efforts helped raise a 20-plus year dormant franchise into one of the NFL’s elite. He holds most league passing records, including touchdowns, attempts, yards, completions, wins, and consecutive games played.

    To put it simply: Brett Favre is NFL royalty. But he’s mud in Green Bay. And it is only because of him.

    I have never blamed Favre for orchestrating his departure during the spring of 2008. It had become abundantly clear to anyone that was paying attention that the Packers wanted to go in another direction – to the youngster and former first-round draft pick, Aaron Rodgers. Rodgers had bided his time as the good soldier to Favre’s legacy, waiting a full three years for his chance to be the leader of the pack, so to speak.

    But Favre still wanted to play. His disillusionment with the Packers had been building as his relationship with general manager Ted Thompson had been deteriorating. Favre knew that his window as an elite player was closing and had wanted Thompson to be more aggressive in helping him make one last championship run. Thompson, meanwhile, preferred to be more methodical and build almost solely through the draft.

    The two needed a separation. They had differing views of how to run a football team, but Thompson was the boss. He had been entrusted by the Packers Board of Directors to build the team the way he saw fit. And that meant Rodgers.

    So, Favre, knowing he was unwanted, retired. Except for the fact that he had no interest in not playing anymore. Thus, the charade of his return to 2008’s Family Night and subsequent trade to the Jets.

    Sports fans have the mindset of “either you’re with us, or you’re against us.” And while the New York Jets are about as innocuous a team to Packers fans as you can imagine, the most incendiary of teams are the Minnesota Vikings.

    Even after a full season away from the Packers, once Favre became a Viking, he was dead to Wisconsin.

    Strike 1.

    Two years ago, Favre played the Packers as an opponent for the first time on Monday Night Football. In that game, he outplayed his replacement, Rodgers, in Minnesota’s 30-23 victory. Favre haters became enamored with his talents again, and longed for No. 4 to still be in Green and Gold.

    It had seemed that Favre sentiment began swaying back to the Old Gunslinger. Many fans, while unhappy he was thriving in Minnesota, had understood his point of wanting a more veteran-laden team to take to the Super Bowl. Unfortunately for Favre, he came up just one interception short of the Promised Land.

    Fast forward to about a year ago and Favre again stepped in it again when it was revealed he sent unwanted private pictures to a woman he had never even met but had seen in passing, former Jets sideline host Jenn Sterger. The fact that Sterger bears a striking resemblance to Favre’s cancer-survivor wife, Deanna, wasn’t lost on anyone. Suddenly, more tales of Favre’s philandering came out, making him look like just another dirty old man.

    Compounding the matter of a faltering public image, weeks later Favre told Chicago Bears defensive end Julius Peppers to “go beat the Packers” and knock them out of the playoffs after Minnesota had fallen to Chicago on Monday Night Football.

    It was one thing to play against us. It was another thing entirely to actively wish for our demise.

    Strike 2.

    Up until this point, Packers fans have had to endure a lot from their former hero since his departure.
    •His 2008 tell-all interview with Fox News’ Greta Van Susteren in where he aired all of his grievances about Thompson and the Packers front office.
    •Allegedly telling then-Lions VP Matt Millen some of the nuances of the Packers playbook the week Detroit were to play Green Bay.
    •Deanna Favre posing for a picture with someone wearing a mocking “Thanks Ted” jersey during a Vikings-Packers game.
    •The absurd denials after the cell phone pictures were leaked.

    Today, Packers fans are up in arms after Favre told an Atlanta radio station that he’s surprised that with all of the weapons around him, Aaron Rodgers didn’t win a Super Bowl sooner than he did.

    Strike 3? Not exactly, even as I understand, when in the context of all of his other swipes at the team that he rose to fame with how some Packers fans are upset yet again.

    The specific quote that most Packers fans have latched on to is “I’m going to be honest, I was not surprised. The biggest surprise to me would be that he didn’t do it sooner.”

    Unfortunately, as we are wont to do in our society, we only hear what we want to hear – which most of the times involves the most salacious snippet carved into a headline.

    “Favre Surprised it Took Rodgers So Long to Win!” screams the headline; while all along he was, in fact, praising his successor’s talent. It was just done in Favre’s own oddly meandering, maddening, stream-of-consciousness way.

    “He’s very bright and he got a chance to watch and see successful teams do it right,” Favre also said of Rodgers. “And so he just kind of fell into a good situation. On top of that, he’s a good player. I don’t think there’s any pressure on him now, the talent around him is even better than when I was there.”

    By reading of the headlines you would have thought that Favre said that he directly was responsible that Rodgers has had all of the success that he has had and didn’t earn any of it himself. That’s nonsense.

    Let’s dissect what he actually said, sentence by sentence:

    “He’s very bright and he got a chance to watch and see successful teams do it right.”

    In Rodgers three seasons as Favre’s backup, the Packers went 4-12 (in 2005) during an injury-riddled debacle that led to Mike Sherman’s firing, 8-8 (in 2006) as they stumbled out of the gate but rallied to win their final four games of the season, and 13-3 (in 2008) which included a trip to the NFC Championship Game.

    To an extent, Favre’s statement is true. The Packers were 10-6 and division champions the year before Rodgers was drafted. They were a successful team that got hammered with injuries in his rookie season.

    “And so he just kind of fell into a good situation.”

    I’d say that Rodgers was in a far better position than quarterbacks such as Peyton Manning, Matthew Stafford, Sam Bradford, Eli Manning, Phillip Rivers, and Cam Newton were in when they were drafted. There is a reason he was the No. 24 overall selection, after all. It’s because the Packers were a playoff team. That’s what Rodgers was drafted into.

    “On top of that, he’s a good player.”

    Nothing controversial about that.

    “I don’t think there’s any pressure on him now, the talent around him is even better than when I was there.”

    The talent is better. Undeniably so. Ironically, it’s true because of the guy Favre feuded with, Ted Thompson, but yes, he is correct.

    As for the pressure, while Rodgers has certainly accomplished a lot, in his mind he isn’t anywhere close to being finished winning Super Bowl rings. But winning that first one is always the hardest. Now Rodgers will never have the question of “and he win the big one” because he already has.

    Favre also went on to say, “In the early part of last season, it hadn’t quite clicked yet, and I didn’t know it would. I just kind of figured when they hit their stride, they’re going to be hard to beat. And that’s what happened.”

    Certainly, that statement echoes the sentiments of a lot of skeptical Packers fans of one year ago. You remember the criticisms: he was too fragile; he’s never won a playoff game; he holds on to the ball too long. These were all things fans were saying about Rodgers, who like every star quarterback in the NFL, just needed some time to grow into the game.

    The way that Brett Favre has handled his personal life has been reprehensible. Airing his grievances about Ted Thompson made him look small. Allegedly seeking out Matt Millen to specifically give him scoop about the Packers and their playbook, while perfectly legal, sends the message that you are more interested in screwing your old team than winning with your new one.

    To a guy that just wants so desperately to be liked, he is doing everything possible to alienate himself to those whose approval he seeks. Let’s face it; No. 4 will never grace the walls of Met Life Stadium or the Metrodome. Make no mistake about it, Brett Favre is a Green Bay Packer, like it or not.

    Because of all of his transgressions against Green Bay in the past, every word Favre utters today will come under the microscope. His most recent statements are proof positive of that. In reality, its pretty innocuous stuff – with plenty of praise to Rodgers mixed in. But yet still this isn’t sitting well with Packers Nation.

    Someday, Brett Favre will take his rightful place in Packers glory. His number will go up with the greats, as it should. He will be cheered again in the place in where he won more games than any other.

    But every time he opens his mouth, he only delays that day further.

    Once again, you Favre apologists need to look in the mirror….the guy is a cancerous dick. A great arm, a tough player, a pure jag.

  115. Wisconsin77 says: Oct 6, 2011 12:24 AM

    stevenfbrackett says:
    Oct 5, 2011 9:40 PM
    Given that Rodgers was almost never allowed on the field to get a little real-life game playing experience when Favre was there – even when there was a minute left and a 20 pt score differential, even when Favre was so hurt he could barely walk or raise an arm or bend his fingers, the fact that he lead the team to a SuperBowl in 3 years regardless of who he had playing with him is pretty damn close to miraculous.

    That’s because Rodgers couldn’t stay on the field for more than 3-plays without getting injured.

  116. Andre's Johnson says: Oct 6, 2011 12:38 AM

    Who cares? wtf

  117. romeisfallingagain says: Oct 6, 2011 1:08 AM

    Are we still discussing this?

    Let me simplify the situation;

    Rodgers >>> Favre

    Favre = Jealous with just cause. I mean, what great legend QB is replaced by an even greater legend QB? Very few, if any.

    In “49er terms,” it’s about like this;

    Rodgers = Steve Young + even more potential

    Favre = Monanta – basically everything

    Simple, but I get it.

    The end.

  118. shaggytoodle says: Oct 6, 2011 1:18 AM

    You can ask Favre about the weather outside, and somehow he will go off on enough tagents to make it about him.

    P.S. New York changes people.

  119. favreblows says: Oct 6, 2011 1:20 AM

    paulharghis says:Oct 5, 2011 6:13 PM

    jgo304 says:
    Oct 5, 2011 5:38 PM
    Brent is a bitter old man who has completely lost the respect of the packer nation. Those 3 blown nfc championships must really weigh heavily on him.

    Not to mention arod is already a better qb than brent ever was. Rodgers doesnt choke in the clutch and dont lob passes into the air for no reason.

    =================================
    Doesn’t choke? I seem to remember a fumble/punt against Arizona a few years back, you know, the one where Capers had to fart himself awake in the booth on national TV?

    It’s funny, when it comes to Aaron- it’s all his doing when they win-when they lose- it’s the refs or it’s a team game- but when it comes to Favre?

    It was the team that won and ALL his fault when they lost.
    Hypocritical, know nothing, inane, loudmouth fans- absolutely, without a doubt, the very worst fanbase in all of pro sports-ever.

    On a side note- if he still needs crap like this “supposed” put down to motivate him, he’s a thin skinned whiny baby. Christ how pathetic

    ***Paul Hargis is so stupid…..I bet his head hurts all the time. Actually…..that could be from getting thrown on the floor by his mother at a young age.

    First Moron….Rodgers had an amazing game vs. AZ. The put up 45 points……35 points in the 2nd half. Figures……a moronic dipsh!t like you would criticize him.

    Second….that was his second year as a starter. His 3rd year he won the SB. His 4th year….(that would be this year you idiot)…he is clearly the best QB in football.

    Third…..Favre is a classless jerk. He played great for GB for years…..but he showed in the end that he is more Paul Hargis…..than he is Bart Starr.

    It must piss you off that I find you on this site all the time and call you out for the duma$$ that you are. Seriously dude…..if you are going to get on here and spout off…..at least know something about what you are talking about.

    The rest of us all feel sorry for you.

  120. lostsok says: Oct 6, 2011 1:39 AM

    Hey Brett, there’s no “i” in “ME! ME! ME”

  121. jedimasterbates says: Oct 6, 2011 2:12 AM

    Favre is one of the all-time greats. I loved watching him play, even when he would throw a pick at the worst possible time. He’s my favorite player, and I loved the retirements, the Hattiesburg sightings etc. The Pack made the right decision in handing the reins to Rodgers. I thought that when it went down, and obviously they’ve been rewarded with someone who has become one of the elite QBs. You can’t play any better than Rodgers has since last season’s playoffs. I love Favre, scandals and all. I could care less that he didn’t want to mentor Rodgers, and I think his comments have been blown way out of proportion (just like everything else in today’s media-obsessed society). Favre was great, Rodgers is now great, end of story.

  122. truthserum4u says: Oct 6, 2011 2:25 AM

    @ welzy

    I like how you conveniently ignored the Manning question. Used your criteria and it didn’t make sense did it?

    Who said anything about yardage? I said stats. That encompasses many measuring sticks to help assess and compare players. I also said wins & rings which you also conveniently left out.

    Interesting you chose QB rating, a system largely criticized as an accurate gauge of a QBs performance. But okay, let’s play your silly game.

    Then according to you the QBs with the higher career QB rating (in parenthesis) were better quarterbacks than the ones with the lower rating.

    Chad Pennington (90.1) – Dan Marino (86.4)
    Duante Culpepper (87.8) – Roger Staubach (83.4)
    Jay Cutler (84) – Troy Aikman (81.6)
    Jason Campbell (83) – Warren Moon (80.9)
    Brian Griese (82.7) – John Elway (79.9)
    Aaron Brooks (78.5) – Johnny Unitas (78.2)

    Kinda ridiculous huh?

    So if QB rating is your end-all, be-all for saying Rodgers is the best QB in football (by the way, his career sampling is awfully small) then please explain the following that happened in week two of this year – Bengals vs. Broncos.

    Cmpl yrds y/att TD Int Rtng

    Dalton 65.9% 332 8.1 2 0 107
    Orton 60% 195 7.8 2 0 111

    I’ll anxiously await for your illogical response.

  123. truthserum4u says: Oct 6, 2011 2:30 AM

    Cripes! Let me try it this way. Hopefully it’s easier to read.

    Dalton Orton

    cmpl 65.9% 60%
    yrds 332 195
    y/att 8.1 7.8
    TD 2 2
    INT 0 0
    Rtng 107 111

  124. vomitingliberals says: Oct 6, 2011 2:33 AM

    Don Majikowski says he’s surprised that Aaron Rodgers didn’t win a Super Bowl sooner. He also says it wasn’t his responsibility to mentor him. Rodney Harrison will soon call him out for those words!

  125. Deb says: Oct 6, 2011 11:51 AM

    jedimasterbates says:

    Favre is one of the all-time greats. I loved watching him play, even when he would throw a pick at the worst possible time. He’s my favorite player, and I loved the retirements, the Hattiesburg sightings etc. The Pack made the right decision in handing the reins to Rodgers. I thought that when it went down, and obviously they’ve been rewarded with someone who has become one of the elite QBs. You can’t play any better than Rodgers has since last season’s playoffs. I love Favre, scandals and all. I could care less that he didn’t want to mentor Rodgers, and I think his comments have been blown way out of proportion (just like everything else in today’s media-obsessed society). Favre was great, Rodgers is now great, end of story.

    ———————————————-
    How can a guy with your doofus screen name be mature enough to love both Favre and Rodgers and recognize both as great talents? If “jedimasturbates” is the voice of reason for Packer fans, gotta wonder about the rest of these guys. Scary :shock:

  126. welzy says: Oct 6, 2011 9:13 PM

    truthserum, the argument was who is the best QB right now. You were looking for ANY measurement and there are multiple stats. Aaron Rodgers leads the NFL in completion percentage, TD/INT ratio, and QB rating. Those stats are huge when determining how good a QB is. I’ve provided you with the measurements you wanted, now how about you provide some sort of proof that Rodgers should not be considered the best right now? Look up this year’s QB stats on NFL.com and you’ll find that there isn’t another QB playing better this year. Prove me wrong.

  127. welzy says: Oct 6, 2011 10:39 PM

    truthserum, let’s stick a fork in this debate. The new QBR rating for QBs lists Rodgers as the best right now. It is currently the most accurate way to rate a QB. You want stats, you got em. Check it out.

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7050006/nfl-week-4-total-qbr-season-leaders

    I can see where you might find this response “illogical”. Knowledgeable football fans will not.

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