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Logan Mankins explains difference between the Jets and Jags

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Patriots All Pro guard Logan Mankins is coming off his best game of the season in Oakland, one in which he held Richard Seymour in check.

Mankins knows this week will be even tougher because of the varied fronts the Jets throw at you.

“It’s not like Jacksonville, where they line up in one spot and never move or do anything different,” Mankins said Wednesday via Ian Rapoport of the Boston Herald.

It sounds like Mankins was taking an unprompted shot at Jacksonville, but he’s just speaking the truth.  The Jaguars have a basic defensive philosophy that they stick to. The Colts over the years have employed a similarly predictable (but effective) approach.

Paul Kuharsky of ESPN.com saw Mankins’ words and agreed with them. He think the Jaguars need to do more to become a dominant defense. So far they have ranked 12th in yards allowed and tenth in points allowed.

That’s not bad, but it’s not enough to win many games with Jacksonville’s offense dragging the team down.

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59 Responses to “Logan Mankins explains difference between the Jets and Jags”
  1. tiffpats4eva says: Oct 5, 2011 7:42 PM

    Best in the league.

  2. fijabbersman345 says: Oct 5, 2011 7:43 PM

    I don’t think Mankins was talking about their philosophy…I think the defensive linemen literally just line up in one spot and never move.

  3. bradwins says: Oct 5, 2011 7:47 PM

    Regardless of whether or not its true, its surprising to hear an athlete speak openly about the nuts and bolts of the game, especially a Patriot. I hope the media doesn’t overreact to this will be the last time he offers this type of insight. I would much rather the week between games be spent discussing substantive football stuff, rather than the usual mindless fluff we are left to talk about.

  4. cromags says: Oct 5, 2011 7:50 PM

    Making drama queen mountains out of molehills.

  5. creese76 says: Oct 5, 2011 7:54 PM

    If you think the Jags defense is basic you should check out their offense.

  6. favreforever says: Oct 5, 2011 8:00 PM

    The difference between the Jets and the Lags.

  7. favreforever says: Oct 5, 2011 8:03 PM

    Aaron Kampman coming back, that will change things a bit. You have to play to your personel, and the Jaguars don’t have blitz specialist players.

    Also, they’re in the top half of the league, despite an anemic offense that has trouble keeping them off the field. Mankins doesn’t know what he is talking about, basically.

  8. theroc5156 says: Oct 5, 2011 8:07 PM

    Hopefully the Jags employ that defense this week against my Bengals.

  9. tallguyme says: Oct 5, 2011 8:07 PM

    Mankins just seriously pissed off all 7 Jags fans

  10. philtration says: Oct 5, 2011 8:15 PM

    tallguyme says: Oct 5, 2011 8:07 PM

    Mankins just seriously pissed off all 7 Jags fans
    =================================

    The funny part is Jets fans ARE jags.

  11. jakek2 says: Oct 5, 2011 8:18 PM

    I thought Mankins was going to say that the Jags have hope.

  12. commandercornpone says: Oct 5, 2011 8:24 PM

    the jags dont make ya think. they make ya work.

  13. northshorejag says: Oct 5, 2011 8:30 PM

    wtf is this story about again?

  14. 6ball says: Oct 5, 2011 8:40 PM

    .

    Jacksonville Jaguars : The team that invented 8-8 .

    .

  15. ducesblackshirt says: Oct 5, 2011 8:40 PM

    The Jags are different from the Pats as well, they don’t cheat.

  16. beretta96d says: Oct 5, 2011 8:43 PM

    favreforever says:Oct 5, 2011 8:03 PM

    Aaron Kampman coming back, that will change things a bit. You have to play to your personel, and the Jaguars don’t have blitz specialist players.

    Also, they’re in the top half of the league, despite an anemic offense that has trouble keeping them off the field. Mankins doesn’t know what he is talking about, basically.

    ……..Mankins is a premier guard in the league and you do what exactly?

  17. ellyman says: Oct 5, 2011 8:43 PM

    Mankins is a moron. I’m sure he and his teammates have watched many of Jaguars practices on film …Cheaters

  18. richm2256 says: Oct 5, 2011 8:45 PM

    Pats fan here …. last time I checked, Logan, the Jags don’t have the worst-ranked defense in all of football.

    Might want to not talk about any other team’s defense just yet.

  19. writesomemorecrap says: Oct 5, 2011 8:51 PM

    Once again this azz called Rosenthal takes his minor league journalistic crap and turns the article into another PFT bashing of the Jags. GFYYJB.

  20. tedmurph says: Oct 5, 2011 8:54 PM

    Belichick will be mad, that’s bulletin board material. They could face the Jags in the 2015 playoffs.

  21. cytofed says: Oct 5, 2011 9:09 PM

    Rest in peace Steve Jobs thank you for iPhone and iPad.

  22. wmthomas3 says: Oct 5, 2011 9:10 PM

    This is coming from a guy whose team has given up a ton of points this year. If it wasn’t for Brady his team would be 1 and 3.

  23. hateonjags says: Oct 5, 2011 9:13 PM

    you’re an idiot logan (wo)mankins..you should have said..”its not like we’re playing OUR defense” because last time i checked, Pats D was dead last in every category…

  24. egetto says: Oct 5, 2011 9:15 PM

    7 jag fans….I get it…

    Thanks for yet another positive Jags story PFT!

    TF and the boys are wringing their little hands in excitement…..Tomorrow they get to run the Cincy blackout story about Jax, and will play down the other, worse attendance issues from bigger markets.

    Wonder when theyre going to do a story ripping Pittsburgh and Chicago having the same amount of fan support, same avg attendance as the Jags?

    22 Pittsburgh 63,663
    23 Minnesota 62,463
    24 Chicago 62,196
    25 Oakland 62,059
    26 Jacksonville 62,045
    27 Arizona 60,561
    28 Detroit 60,040
    29 Miami 58,946
    30 St. Louis 56,374
    31 Tampa Bay 54,080
    32 Cincinnati 42,252

  25. ossipeepats says: Oct 5, 2011 9:16 PM

    What I don’t get is why you made this article about the Jags when in reality he’s talking about the Jets, who happen to be the Patriots opponents this weekend…

  26. jag9 says: Oct 5, 2011 9:18 PM

    tallguyme: Then why were 65K fans at the Saints game this past weekend in Jax? Face it….you don’t have a clue what you are talking about. No Jax blackouts this year or last year. Can Oakland, Tampa, San Diego, Buffalo make the same claim? Negative.

    Pure ignorance.

  27. jagsdaddy says: Oct 5, 2011 9:30 PM

    Mankiss will see the jags d next fall. Brady will not feel good the next day.

  28. jvillenole says: Oct 5, 2011 9:34 PM

    @tallguyme

    What a short-sighted, idiotic, statement to make. Especially considering the Jaguars have averaged 62k attendance.

    Way to look like an uneducated, moron. You should be proud!

  29. heckdamonsta says: Oct 5, 2011 9:42 PM

    hateonjags….so where does he say the jags d is garbage or are assuming that’s what he meant? Jets and jags have totally different d’s logans mankins didn’t say one was better than another

  30. philtration says: Oct 5, 2011 9:45 PM

    egetto says: Oct 5, 2011 9:15 PM

    7 jag fans….I get it…

    Thanks for yet another positive Jags story PFT!

    TF and the boys are wringing their little hands in excitement…..Tomorrow they get to run the Cincy blackout story about Jax, and will play down the other, worse attendance issues from bigger markets.

    Wonder when theyre going to do a story ripping Pittsburgh and Chicago having the same amount of fan support, same avg attendance as the Jags?

    22 Pittsburgh 63,663
    23 Minnesota 62,463
    24 Chicago 62,196
    25 Oakland 62,059
    26 Jacksonville 62,045
    27 Arizona 60,561
    28 Detroit 60,040
    29 Miami 58,946
    30 St. Louis 56,374
    31 Tampa Bay 54,080
    32 Cincinnati 42,252
    =================================
    Do you realize that the Bears sell out every game and they average 62,000 a game because that is all Soldier Field holds?

    Fans here complain about the renovated stadium not holding 75,000 all the time but it sounds like you like to twist the facts in a way that will make you happy.

  31. cannonballdookie says: Oct 5, 2011 9:49 PM

    The Jags bland offense must make their D look like rocket science. I’ve never seen many teams literally scared to death of the forward pass.

  32. philtration says: Oct 5, 2011 9:49 PM

    cytofed says: Oct 5, 2011 9:09 PM

    Rest in peace Steve Jobs thank you for iPhone and iPad.
    =================================

    And for sending all those jobs to China while selling your stuff over here for ridiculous prices.
    Bill Gates does more for other people in one day then Steve Jobs did in his entire life.

  33. jvillenole says: Oct 5, 2011 10:27 PM

    @cannonball….

    46 passing attempts is scared?

    You people need to look up facts before you open your mouths!

  34. egetto says: Oct 5, 2011 10:38 PM

    @philtration – yes, I do….its called sarcasm – obviously Chicago is a huge supporter of their team, but Jax takes a daily beating on here for supporting their team, but we avg 62K too. There is an agenda on this site, and we get f….ng tired of it

  35. dabears2485 says: Oct 5, 2011 11:00 PM

    ———————————
    egetto says:
    Oct 5, 2011 9:15 PM

    Wonder when theyre going to do a story ripping Pittsburgh and Chicago having the same amount of fan support, same avg attendance as the Jags?

    22 Pittsburgh 63,663
    23 Minnesota 62,463
    24 Chicago 62,196
    25 Oakland 62,059
    26 Jacksonville 62,045
    27 Arizona 60,561
    28 Detroit 60,040
    29 Miami 58,946
    30 St. Louis 56,374
    31 Tampa Bay 54,080
    32 Cincinnati 42,252
    —————————————

    A quick google search shows that the Jags’ stadium has a 73K capacity. Soldier Field has 61,500. So the Bears sell out every game (a few hundred don’t show up – happens at every stadium), while the Jags have about 10,000 empty seats.

    Capacity dictates attendance. If the Bears had a 100,000 seat stadium, I would put money on it that it would be packed every game.

  36. jvillenole says: Oct 5, 2011 11:19 PM

    @filtration

    I couldn’t agree more. Can everybody STOP with the Steve Jobs” eulogy? He never had humanity in mind when he started a single project. He cared about two things in life….1) Steve Jobs…..2) how to make Steve Jobs richer.

    Don’t fool yourself, people. The only thing Steve Jobs cared about was separating you from your money!

  37. richm2256 says: Oct 5, 2011 11:22 PM

    philtration says:
    And for sending all those jobs to China while selling your stuff over here for ridiculous prices.
    Bill Gates does more for other people in one day then Steve Jobs did in his entire life.
    —————————————————————-
    Wow

    What the hell did Steve Jobs ever do to YOU???

    The guy’s dead, let it go. Even if Gates DID do more, they can’t BOTH be accomplished people, one’s got to be great and the other has to suck?

    Bitter man, you must have a ton of ulcers.

  38. petthefurrywall says: Oct 6, 2011 12:41 AM

    What kind a person takes jabs at a man on the day of their death? Steve Jobs did a lot a good for this world. What have you done? you sound like a bitter small man.

  39. coreyandthejets says: Oct 6, 2011 12:54 AM

    Same old ya-ya from this jackass.

  40. favreforever says: Oct 6, 2011 1:06 AM

    R.I.P. Steve Jobs. And a whole bunch of other jobs.

  41. favreforever says: Oct 6, 2011 1:11 AM

    Jags are tied for 10th in team defense (points allowed) despite having the league’s worst offense. Pats are tied for 20th, despite having the league’s best offense.

    Tell that overpaid Weekend Cowboy to stop smoking the dried horse turds.

  42. nannymcsack says: Oct 6, 2011 1:24 AM

    not that it matters because they don’t play this season, but the last two times the patriots played the jaguars, tom shat rainbows all over those big fluffy kittens. 49-54, 529 yards, 7 TD, 0 INT, 147.1 passer rating.

    glorious

  43. goatcheez says: Oct 6, 2011 1:41 AM

    Jacksonville threw the ball 42 times last week. Still lost. They just don’t have WRs. And have a rookie QB. simple as that.

    Can’t wait for PFT to proudly parade the 1st blackout for Jacksonville in 2 years. They’re gonna be so pumped to take another shot at the NFL’s whipping boy.

  44. patswhatsup says: Oct 6, 2011 1:51 AM

    ellyman says: Oct 5, 2011 8:43 PM

    Mankins is a moron. I’m sure he and his teammates have watched many of Jaguars practices on film …Cheaters
    _________________________________

    The patriots have watched alot of film on the Jags…..It’s called GAME TAPE!

    Idiot…

  45. patsfiend says: Oct 6, 2011 1:56 AM

    I’d swap out the entire NE defense (or at least the secondary) for the Jags defense in 2 seconds, and I can’t even name a guy on the Jags.

  46. slick3 says: Oct 6, 2011 2:28 AM

    12th in yards allowed and tenth in points allowed?

    Send that DC to Philly.

  47. slick3 says: Oct 6, 2011 2:31 AM

    fijabbersman345 says:Oct 5, 2011 7:43 PM

    I don’t think Mankins was talking about their philosophy…I think the defensive linemen literally just line up in one spot and never move.
    ==================================

    ROTFLMAO! You guys are nuts.

  48. tatum064 says: Oct 6, 2011 3:47 AM

    How did Steve Jobs even get into Logan Mankins conversation about the Jags?

  49. nationalmediacansuckit says: Oct 6, 2011 5:18 AM

    It’s official. This site doesn’t even hid the hatred for Jax. So the Jags are #12 defense in the league (Patroits last in the league by the way) and this site finds a way to turn it into a bash. Mankind didn’t say anything disrespectful toasted the Jags. He was just saying the type of defense the Jags give you that’s different from Jets. But leave it to this site to take a nonstory and twist it to Jag bash, but it’s still a nonstory. Keep up the great work guys.

  50. realitypolice says: Oct 6, 2011 8:09 AM

    I don’t think Mankins was taking a shot at Jacksonville. He was stating a fact known throughout the league for a long time- the Jags have a relatively simple defensive philosophy.

    He was using them to make a comparison. In fact, he doesn’t appear to even suggest which approach he thinks is better than the other.

    So no, Greg, it doesn’t sound like “Mankins was taking an unprompted shot” at the Jags defense, it sounds like trying to make a story on a slow news day.

  51. dawgs105 says: Oct 6, 2011 8:10 AM

    Look, Mankins did nothing wrong here. He was just commenting on their style of play, that’s not to say their defense isn’t good. They have a young talented defense. Their blitzing scheme is just a little basic and easier to block.

  52. realitypolice says: Oct 6, 2011 8:11 AM

    philtration says:
    Oct 5, 2011 9:49 PM
    cytofed says: Oct 5, 2011 9:09 PM

    Rest in peace Steve Jobs thank you for iPhone and iPad.
    =================================

    And for sending all those jobs to China while selling your stuff over here for ridiculous prices.
    Bill Gates does more for other people in one day then Steve Jobs did in his entire life.
    ================================

    When unions in America stop forcing corporations to pay people $50 an hour to perform tasks that can be done just as well by a lightly trained chimpanzee, maybe we can get some of those jobs back.

  53. thousandcasts says: Oct 6, 2011 8:34 AM

    If I were a Jags fan, I wouldn’t be pissed at Mankins, PFT, or the easter bunny. I’d be pissed that they still have Del Rio as HC and as a Lions fan who loves football in general, I can say flat out that Jack is the Wayne Fontes of the 2000’s.

    Invest in and then switch QB’s on a dime–check

    Change systems left and right–check

    Lose more games than he wins, but does have a season or two where he does just enough to avoid the axe–check

    Does he smoke cigars and drive a golf cart? I need to check on that one…

  54. jcjaguar says: Oct 6, 2011 9:05 AM

    All you Jag haters can go f*ck yourselves…comment on your your own damn team. I doesn’t make you any better or smarter or whatever to rip another team. Yes, the Jags aren’t very good this year. Yes, this is a small market team with a population of less than 1 million people in it’s 918 sq. miles. But you little desk pvssies hidding behind your PFT keyboard who think your clever because you rip the Jags and your team (Pats, etc) are good are pathetic. The fact that your fav team is good has NOTHING to do with you or the fact that you are a fan so STFU about other teams and cheer yours if you want.

  55. pzimm7778 says: Oct 6, 2011 9:37 AM

    tallguyme: Then why were 65K fans at the Saints game this past weekend in Jax? Face it….you don’t have a clue what you are talking about. No Jax blackouts this year or last year. Can Oakland, Tampa, San Diego, Buffalo make the same claim? Negative.
    ———————————————————————————-

    Neither will you after today or tomorrow at 1. And I’ll bet it won’t be anywhere near the last this year either.

  56. thesecplaysforkeeps says: Oct 6, 2011 9:38 AM

    It only took Gregg “Grammar” Rosenthal 12 characters to make a grammatical error. Typically, the o/u is around 20-40

  57. jnbnet says: Oct 6, 2011 9:53 AM

    egetto says:
    Oct 5, 2011 10:38 PM
    @philtration – yes, I do….its called sarcasm – obviously Chicago is a huge supporter of their team, but Jax takes a daily beating on here for supporting their team, but we avg 62K too. There is an agenda on this site, and we get f….ng tired of it

    ###############################
    Who’s that behind you?

  58. nesuperfan says: Oct 6, 2011 12:01 PM

    While I have nothing but respect for what Steve Jobs accomplished, the “RIP” comments do not belong here.

  59. favreforever says: Oct 6, 2011 1:42 PM

    Stop RIPing Steve Jobs.

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