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Eagles looking for defensive leaders

Cullen Jenkins, Matt Ryan AP

Brian Dawkins is long gone.  The man who vocally took over for Dawkins as Philly’s defensive leader — safety Quintin Mikell — is in St. Louis.

The Eagles are searching for defensive leadership, and a leader hasn’t presented himself yet. Marcus Hayes of the Philadelphia Inquirer suggests newcomer Cullen Jenkins, who is unsure of his place.

“It’s kind of hard because you don’t want to overstep your boundaries,” Jenkins said. “When do you speak up? How do you do it? . . In time, you start feeling more comfortable to do things.”

Jenkins and Jason Babin have lived up to their billing as free agent pickups thus far.  But the loss of Trent Cole will hurt the defensive line, the linebackers are mediocre at best, and the secondary is trying to figure out how they fit into Juan Castillo’s scheme.

It’s not a surprise that all these new players are struggling in a brand new system.

“Not just knowing what you’re doing, but knowing what you’re doing so well that when you start getting tired, and things start moving a lot faster, you don’t second-guess yourself,” Jenkins said. “You can just react.”

The Eagles defense doesn’t have a lot of time. They have a tough test Sunday in Buffalo. A four game losing streak awaits if they don’t step up soon.

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  1. joetoronto says: Oct 7, 2011 11:24 AM

    This team wasn’t built right at all. You have to start in the trenches and move out from there, not the other way around.

    And that crazy defensive scheme they have, that’s for the birds, no pun intended.

  2. scoops1 says: Oct 7, 2011 11:28 AM

    maybe they should give Vernon Gholston a call….he might be able to help lead that defense….

  3. turk2875 says: Oct 7, 2011 11:31 AM

    We lost our Heart in Brian Dawkins and our Soul in Jim Johnson. Years later we still haven’t found their replacements. Jim Johnson deserves as much credit as Andy Reid gets for the success this team has seen the past 12 seasons IMO.

  4. nogoodell says: Oct 7, 2011 11:36 AM

    This team took pieces that didn’t fit and tried to make a puzzle

    Top that off with an offensive line coach who begged to be allowed to be the D-Coord and an aging coach and you have a team that struggles

    Look at teams that have won the Super Bowl recently

    Pittsburgh
    Indy
    Green Bay

    You have newer coaches, not coaches who have stayed for 15 years outside of BB

  5. orakpownd says: Oct 7, 2011 11:37 AM

    Dreamy.

  6. Land Snark says: Oct 7, 2011 11:39 AM

    @joetoronto

    The Wide 9 isn’t so crazy. It just works better when you have a sturdier interior line and some linebackers who can actually stop the run and work in pass coverage.

    That can’t be said of the Mickey Mouse unit the Eagles have trotting out there.

  7. 1509lucky says: Oct 7, 2011 11:41 AM

    Let’s be perfectly clear about something. The Eagles under Andy Reid have never had ANY leaders on either side of the ball. If they did,the whole Terrell Owens debacle would have never taken place. This team hasn’t had a strong locker room leader since the Reggie White,Jerome Brown,Seth Joyner era. Dawkins as fiery as he was,was not a leader. This team has always lacked the Defensive Swagger that the elite teams in this league have had. People in this town love to exaggerate about certain players,but if they are Honest with themselves,they will see that the Eagles biggest problem during the Andy Reid era has been lack of leadership.

  8. yevrag3535 says: Oct 7, 2011 11:47 AM

    It will never matter who steps up until that lousy used car salesman Andy Reid steps down. After all these years he still says he has to work harder and it is my fault. Let us try that wit our bosses for years and see how long we would last. Fire that guy, come on. You will never win it all with him. A playoff game maybe, but that is it.

  9. chocolatebaconbutter says: Oct 7, 2011 11:50 AM

    Well said by 1509lucky. Very unbiased opinion. I tend to agree.

  10. swervinmervin says: Oct 7, 2011 11:51 AM

    Dont look at Aso for leadership. He didnt display any in Oakland either. That’s part of the reason he’s gone. He is a very good man to man corner and a very nice person, but dont expect anything else.

  11. schmitty2 says: Oct 7, 2011 11:51 AM

    FredEx wasnt a leader?:)

  12. lbijake says: Oct 7, 2011 11:53 AM

    They shouild also be looking for a DC. They haven’t been the same since the unfortunate passing of Jim Johnson. It is a difficult puzzle to put together with a new unproven DC and a lot of new integral pieces. How can the players have faith in Juan’s system when he hasn’t even coached on that side of the ball before and does not have a track record.

  13. das14 says: Oct 7, 2011 11:55 AM

    The Dream Team doesn’t need any leaders. They can win just by showing up.

  14. southpaw2k says: Oct 7, 2011 11:57 AM

    nogoodell says:
    Oct 7, 2011 11:36 AM
    This team took pieces that didn’t fit and tried to make a puzzle

    Top that off with an offensive line coach who begged to be allowed to be the D-Coord and an aging coach and you have a team that struggles

    Look at teams that have won the Super Bowl recently

    Pittsburgh
    Indy
    Green Bay

    You have newer coaches, not coaches who have stayed for 15 years outside of BB

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    I agree with your points except your cited examples of Super Bowl winners. I’m not quite sure what point you’re trying to make talking about their head coaches and coaching staffs, but only Pitt seems to fit your point. Tomlin was in his second year coaching the team when they won following the 2008 season, but both Dungy and McCarthy had been coaching their respective teams for 5 years before they finally had won a championship. They had several years to build their teams through the draft and free agency in order to reach the top. What exactly are you trying to say here?

  15. pigskinswag says: Oct 7, 2011 12:02 PM

    Maybe offensive tackle Jason Peters could be a defensive leader. They’ve already got an offensive line guy coaching the defense.

  16. turk2875 says: Oct 7, 2011 12:02 PM

    @1509lucky

    Brian Dawkins wasnt a leader??? Are you outta your skull!!! I agree that Andy isnt much of a leader as a Head Coach, but c’mon. If they ever ranked leaders, Dawkins would be in the top 5 in the league right now.

  17. whoknowsnothing says: Oct 7, 2011 12:02 PM

    They should go after C. Crowder and make him captain. That should fix their leadership issues.

  18. duncanthecat says: Oct 7, 2011 12:03 PM

    To start their small and not very fast in the front seven. Injuries are now making them smaller.

    The D-Backs don’t support the run much either. The defense is assembled to best stop the pass; but teams are game planning for smash mouth.

    It will be interesting to see what solutions Castillo and gang install.

  19. 1509lucky says: Oct 7, 2011 12:03 PM

    turk2875 says:
    Oct 7, 2011 11:31 AM
    We lost our Heart in Brian Dawkins and our Soul in Jim Johnson. Years later we still haven’t found their replacements. Jim Johnson deserves as much credit as Andy Reid gets for the success this team has seen the past 12 seasons IMO.
    _____________________________________

    Jim Johnson’s Defenses were always predicated on the “Bend don’t Break’philosophy,which i HATE! This town hasn’t had an intimidating Smash Mouth Defense since Bud Carson was the Coordinator,yet somehow folks in this town seem to have convinced themselves that JJ’s Defenses were top notch! Steve Spagnola took virtually the same scheme with him to the Giants and won a SUPER BOWL while we sat back and told ourselves how Great our Defenses were. Loved Dawk and everything he gave bus,but he was not a Leader like Strahan was with the Giants or like Lewis and Reed are in Baltimore.

  20. mhalt99 says: Oct 7, 2011 12:04 PM

    1509lucky:

    what you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

    Brian Dawkins was one of the greatest leaders we have ever had. Deuce Staley was an offensive leader during his tenure and Jerimiah Trotter and Hugh Douglas were on the D. We had some great D’s during the Buddy days but I kind of remember Montana throwing 4 tds in the 4th quarter to beat the birds back in the day….oh and I LOVE BUDDY and Buddy Ball more than anyone but Reid has taken us to the Super Bowl….give some credit where credit is due

  21. stevo8drum says: Oct 7, 2011 12:04 PM

    Good- about time we find a D cordinator.

  22. scudbot says: Oct 7, 2011 12:09 PM

    Start with a DC who’s actually had some D experience.

  23. 1509lucky says: Oct 7, 2011 12:14 PM

    turk2875 says:
    Oct 7, 2011 12:02 PM
    @1509lucky

    Brian Dawkins wasnt a leader??? Are you outta your skull!!! I agree that Andy isnt much of a leader as a Head Coach, but c’mon. If they ever ranked leaders, Dawkins would be in the top 5 in the league right now.
    _____________________________________

    Yeah,that “LEADERSHIP” was front and center when they allowed one Prima Donna Wide Receiver to tear apart the entire Football Team. The Defenses that were “Led” by Dawkins ,never scared ANYONE in this league. They were always soft against the run and suspect in pass coverage.

  24. fatfreddystubbs says: Oct 7, 2011 12:18 PM

    @1509lucky

    Brian Dawkins wasnt a leader??? Are you outta your skull!!! I agree that Andy isnt much of a leader as a Head Coach, but c’mon. If they ever ranked leaders, Dawkins would be in the top 5 in the league right now.

    ————————————————–
    I would also say Troy Vincent, Trotter, Hugh Douglas, and Sheldon Brown were too, at various times.

    But give 1509 a break, it’s much easier to romanticize 20 years later about a team and their blowhard coach that went 0-3 in the playoffs than a team that actually won a few playoff games.

    And i don’t think being unable to keep TO from acting like a d-bag shows lack of leadership. Many have tried, none have succeeded

  25. jakek2 says: Oct 7, 2011 12:28 PM

    Its a strange phenomenon that teams don’t play to their full potential without bona fide leaders. As a Giants’ fan, I can sympathize. Since Strahan and Pierce retired, our d hasn’t played to its full potential despite having arguably the most talented D-Line in the league.

    Problem is, you can’t sign leaders in FA either (otherwise a player like Rolle would be a fit) b/c they haven’t built up currency in the locker room yet. You need to get lucky in the draft and not let them go. We’re still holding out hope that Tuck develops into one.

    Philly’s D is full of FAs and their draft picks haven’t panned out (yet). Their only hope is that the talent overcomes it.

  26. nooneyouknow says: Oct 7, 2011 12:28 PM

    Dream Team

  27. countsnail says: Oct 7, 2011 12:33 PM

    Wheel Chuck Bednarik onto the sidelines. He’ll get the D fired up.

  28. rgb2425 says: Oct 7, 2011 12:36 PM

    Ummm Rosenthal you deleted my comment

  29. We'reFineThere says: Oct 7, 2011 12:41 PM

    I can’t even watch my own teams defense anymore. I’m like a girl or kid watching the games now…tell me when we have the ball.

    All the national analysts saying the Eagles finally figured things out’ are completely wrong, this team is done. They’ll win a few games when the offense clicks and puts up too many points, but there will be no dramatic turnaround.

    Ironically, we now have the cover corner personnel, and the linebackers have no instincts so you might as well blitz them anyway. I’d gladly take the 150 yard Witten games over this mess. Lol @ the idea of base defense when 5+ players on every play lose their matchup.

  30. 1509lucky says: Oct 7, 2011 12:45 PM

    @1509lucky

    Brian Dawkins wasnt a leader??? Are you outta your skull!!! I agree that Andy isnt much of a leader as a Head Coach, but c’mon. If they ever ranked leaders, Dawkins would be in the top 5 in the league right now.

    ————————————————–
    I would also say Troy Vincent, Trotter, Hugh Douglas, and Sheldon Brown were too, at various times.

    But give 1509 a break, it’s much easier to romanticize 20 years later about a team and their blowhard coach that went 0-3 in the playoffs than a team that actually won a few playoff games.

    And i don’t think being unable to keep TO from acting like a d-bag shows lack of leadership. Many have tried, none have succeeded
    _________________________________________
    ROMANTICZING is what we do in this town Best! How else do you explain the Dick Vermeil Billboard and the Cannonization Of Buddy Ryan in this town,not to mention the 93 Phillies????
    All of those names you threw out there as leaders had one thing in common:FAILURE! Those guys were good mentors for the younger players,but in terms of LEADERSHIP,they all fell woefully short in that department. Instead of trying to indulge in a pissing War,look at the FACTS! What player during Andy Reid;s tenure can anyone ever say that at any time,This is HIS Team? McNabb? Dawkins? Trotter? WHO? NO ONE ever stepped forward and put their stamp on that Locker Room. That is what separated them from The St.Louis Team that beat us,The Tampa Team that Beat us,The New England Team That Beat us and even The Cardinals who Beat us! Stop drinking the Memory Lane Kool-Ade and see this team for what it is,and has been under Reid:SOFT!

  31. tonyt33 says: Oct 7, 2011 12:49 PM

    First – Describing the Eagles linebackers as mediocre is being too kind.
    Second – I don’t know if Castillo can cut it as a defensive coordinator or not, but I do know the Eagles put him in a real difficult position when they brought in Howard Mudd and his wide 9 defensive line scheme. It seems kind of ridiculous that a team would make their defensive coordinator have to adjust the rest of his defensive scheme to accomodate what the line coach is doing with the lineman. Seems the defensive coordinator should be dictating the entire defensive scheme not playing second fiddle to the line coach. This set-up was destined to fail from the beginning and if they can’t figure that out it is going to end up costing the entire coaching staff their jobs (including Andy).

  32. jagmania65 says: Oct 7, 2011 12:49 PM

    What? The Eagles spent all that money, and forgot to sign anyone with leadership qualities?

  33. snowpea84 says: Oct 7, 2011 12:51 PM

    A string of really bad roster moves on defense and offense leading up to this season have out them where they are. As far as I know Reid is in cahrge of that. Fire him. Just terrible decisions.

  34. chocolatebaconbutter says: Oct 7, 2011 12:54 PM

    Eagles suck.

  35. pacash80 says: Oct 7, 2011 12:57 PM

    I don’t think 1509lucky has ever seen an Eagles game prior to this season.

  36. kingokra says: Oct 7, 2011 12:59 PM

    After watching their defense, I think Captain Morgan is the right call. In copious amounts. Quickly.

  37. fatfreddystubbs says: Oct 7, 2011 1:05 PM

    ROMANTICZING is what we do in this town Best! How else do you explain the Dick Vermeil Billboard and the Cannonization Of Buddy Ryan in this town,not to mention the 93 Phillies????
    ————————————————-
    When it comes to the love of Buddy Ryan, stupidity might be one explanation.

  38. joetoronto says: Oct 7, 2011 1:06 PM

    Land Snark says: Oct 7, 2011 11:39 AM

    @joetoronto

    The Wide 9 isn’t so crazy. It just works better when you have a sturdier interior line and some linebackers who can actually stop the run and work in pass coverage.

    That can’t be said of the Mickey Mouse unit the Eagles have trotting out there.
    ************************************************
    I couldn’t disagree more, Land Shark.

    Draw plays are killing that front because the ends are always pushing up the field, essentially leaving 5 linemen on 2 DT’s.

    The backers are completely exposed to guards all the time, they need to be protected at least somewhat.

  39. kapooti says: Oct 7, 2011 1:14 PM

    To all you disrespecting the philly greats, especially Dawkins, learn your sh*t.

    type his name in on youtube to see howmuch leadership he had, you ignorant haters. not a single teamate he’s had can say a bad word about him. He was a leader….

    and your point is he couldnt control T.O.? WHO EVER DID? that cancer drove himself off so many teams. Cancers dont “get better”, you destroy them. TO will only listen to one person and that’s himself. so keep hatin, haters. I hate Castillo, and Washburn’s d line scheme, and out linebackers, and the defensive attitude. but i believe in this team, we arent out. lets go.

  40. Land Snark says: Oct 7, 2011 1:15 PM

    Yeah. Leadership is what they need right now.

    Not to plug the gaping hole right in the center of the defense.

    Nor to find someone who might keep defenders off of Vick for two seconds.

    And most definitely not a coordinator who knows when not to call a run on 4th down when you’re in the middle of the field.

    The problem starts with Reid and his coordinators. Honestly I’ve had it with the “We’re going to do better excuses.”

    They need to clean house next year and start from scratch. Maybe the Eagles can even go out and draft Luck the way they’re going.

  41. phillyrick22 says: Oct 7, 2011 1:21 PM

    Im a Birds fan but I am getting sick of all the eagle posts!!! These r grown ass men, they can figure it out themselves. If they succeed then great! if they dont, then there will be next year, something we are used too… These hookers do need to get themselves together though… 1 more loss and you can kiss the season good bye! early 1st round pick here we come!!!! Go Phillies!

  42. selgaeinla says: Oct 7, 2011 1:29 PM

    Eagles are now in the Andrew Luck race.

  43. n0hopeleft says: Oct 7, 2011 1:40 PM

    Defensive Leaders?

    THE ENTIRE CITY IS STARVED FOR LEADERSHIP!

  44. n0hopeleft says: Oct 7, 2011 1:48 PM

    nogoodell says:
    Oct 7, 2011 11:36 AM
    This team took pieces that didn’t fit and tried to make a puzzle

    Top that off with an offensive line coach who begged to be allowed to be the D-Coord and an aging coach and you have a team that struggles

    Look at teams that have won the Super Bowl recently

    Pittsburgh
    Indy
    Green Bay

    You have newer coaches, not coaches who have stayed for 15 years outside of BB

    ————————————————-

    I agree with your points except your cited examples of Super Bowl winners. I’m not quite sure what point you’re trying to make talking about their head coaches and coaching staffs, but only Pitt seems to fit your point. Tomlin was in his second year coaching the team when they won following the 2008 season, but both Dungy and McCarthy had been coaching their respective teams for 5 years before they finally had won a championship. They had several years to build their teams through the draft and free agency in order to reach the top. What exactly are you trying to say here?
    _______________________________

    And Tom Coughlin – but why would any of the dbag Philly fans mention him?

    Of course not – because you care more about regular season wins than you do rings!

    THE EMPTY TROPHY CASE CLAN!

  45. n0hopeleft says: Oct 7, 2011 1:49 PM

    kapooti says:
    Oct 7, 2011 1:14 PM
    To all you disrespecting the philly greats, especially Dawkins, learn your sh*t.

    type his name in on youtube to see howmuch leadership he had, you ignorant haters. not a single teamate he’s had can say a bad word about him. He was a leader….

    and your point is he couldnt control T.O.? WHO EVER DID? that cancer drove himself off so many teams. Cancers dont “get better”, you destroy them. TO will only listen to one person and that’s himself. so keep hatin, haters. I hate Castillo, and Washburn’s d line scheme, and out linebackers, and the defensive attitude. but i believe in this team, we arent out. lets go.

    _______________________________

    PASS THE DUTCHY FROM DA LEFT HAND SIDE SON!

  46. lbdpatch says: Oct 7, 2011 2:14 PM

    WOW Buddy ryans defense make the 2000 raven and this years ravens defense look like a bunch of cheerleaders, Reggie White, Seth Joyner,jerome brown,Clyde Simmons,Eric Allen were absoulute beast compared to todays wanna be’s.

  47. freedomispopular says: Oct 7, 2011 2:17 PM

    Can we all stop acting like Juan Castillo knows absolutely nothing about defense? As an offensive line coach, you’d have to know a little bit about defense so you’d know how to attack it. He’s been around football a long time, and he’s wanted this opportunity for a long time, so I think he has at least an idea of what he’s doing. I really hope none of you expected a defense full of new guys with a new scheme without OTAs and a full training camp would have success right away.

    Oh, and FYI, Mike Nolan went from being the Ravens WR coach to being their DC, so it’s not like it’s unprecedented.

  48. lbdpatch says: Oct 7, 2011 2:19 PM

    Oh by the way you all keep saying the Eagles have never won a superbowl so they suck. Using your brilliant thinking that means that Dan Marino also sucked because he never won a superbowl.

  49. bleedgreen says: Oct 7, 2011 2:52 PM

    tonyt33 says: Oct 7, 2011 12:49 PM

    First – Describing the Eagles linebackers as mediocre is being too kind.
    Second – I don’t know if Castillo can cut it as a defensive coordinator or not, but I do know the Eagles put him in a real difficult position when they brought in Howard Mudd and his wide 9 defensive line scheme.

    ——————————–

    Your opinion is disregarded since you think Howard Mudd coaches the D-Line. Why do people keep saying this? JIM WASHBURN is th D-Line coach. Howard Mudd is the O-Line coach.

  50. 1509lucky says: Oct 7, 2011 3:05 PM

    pacash80 says:
    Oct 7, 2011 12:57 PM
    I don’t think 1509lucky has ever seen an Eagles game prior to this season.
    _____________________________________

    Yeah dude,actually i have seen quite a few the past 40 years or so,while guys like you were calling into Talk Radio shows screaming E-A-G-L-E-S like total morons. Stop acting as if your Love of certain players translates into greatness. That has always been this city’s problem,they put certain people on pedestals and act all defensive when the shortcomings are pointed out! The Jim Johnson led Defenses were at no time DOMINATE! Brian Dawkins and the rest of the guys on those defenses failed in Big Games as much as if not MORE than McNabb and the offense. This team has not been a force against the run in YEARS and everyone around the league knows it. As good as Dawk,Trotter and the rest of those guys were,the truth is that that Locker Room was WEAK! Everybody in the NFL knows that the rep that team had was a “Nice Guys” and we all know where Nice Guys finish,don’t we?

  51. trollaikman8 says: Oct 7, 2011 3:22 PM

    Maybe Brian Dawkins can take his talents down to South Beach…err, Philadelphia.

    //Dream Team

  52. lbdpatch says: Oct 7, 2011 3:27 PM

    1509lucky name one team that doesn’t have shortcomings. If you name one your clueless. As bad as you make the eagles out to be. We have more division titles and wins under Andy Reid than everyone except New England. I know we dont have a superbowl title but neither did Dan Marino and we all know how much he sucked(lol) Jim Johnson was one of the best defensive coordinators In the NFL !!!

  53. laeaglefan says: Oct 7, 2011 3:48 PM

    The Eagles run defense has been weak for years now.
    Bringing in Washburn and his Wide 9 scheme has just made it that much worse. Other than Jason Babin, I don’t see where its really helped the sack total or pressure on the QB either.

    If things don’t improve quickly, Reid and his entire coaching staff will be gone at the end of this season. Time for Bill Cowher to make his comeback….in Philly!

  54. seabreezes51 says: Oct 7, 2011 4:01 PM

    It is now pretty obvious that Jim Johnson was the more important coach than Andy Reid.
    Much like Belichick was the real brain begging Parcells Andy is being exposed as the lesser coach.

    Time for Lurie to find his Belichick

  55. seabreezes51 says: Oct 7, 2011 4:04 PM

    It is now pretty obvious that Jim Johnson was the more important coach than Andy Reid.
    Much like Belichick was the real brain behind Parcells Andy is being exposed as the lesser coach.

    Time for Lurie to find his Belichick

  56. tigrrrr says: Oct 7, 2011 5:27 PM

    lbdpatch says:
    Oct 7, 2011 3:27 PM

    hehe… another eagle fan happy with a division win! lol

    Im starting to wonder if they even know there is another level!

  57. tigrrrr says: Oct 7, 2011 5:29 PM

    THE EMPTY TROPHY CASE CLAN! <— gotta love it!

  58. 1509lucky says: Oct 7, 2011 5:47 PM

    lbdpatch says:
    Oct 7, 2011 3:27 PM
    1509lucky name one team that doesn’t have shortcomings. If you name one your clueless. As bad as you make the eagles out to be. We have more division titles and wins under Andy Reid than everyone except New England. I know we dont have a superbowl title but neither did Dan Marino and we all know how much he sucked(lol) Jim Johnson was one of the best defensive coordinators In the NFL !!!
    ______________________________________
    Save the Talk show rhetoric for the idiots who buy into that crap! Belichick undressed Reid and Johnson in that Super Bowl. Don’t try pass off a few division titles as a Dynasty. They don’t give out rings for winning the division. I respect Jim Johnson and what he did with this team,but that does not blind me to the truth that the Bend but don’t break style that this team played,simply was not GOOD ENOUGH to get the job done when it counted. None of those Jim Johnson Deenses’s were on par with The Steelers or The packers. The Physical talent was not there,the Physical play was not there and YES,the LEADERSHIP was not there! I have heard guys like you spewing this B.S for years in this town. This football team is and has been SOFT under Andy Reid. Throwing Roses at the past will not change the truth. This team simply does not play Smash Mouth,Physical Defense. Don’t give me a few hits made by Dawk here and there,this Team has never struck fear in the hearts of No one,except our Fan base.

  59. axespray says: Oct 7, 2011 6:30 PM

    Can’t Tackle.
    Can’t Block.
    = Really Really Hard to Win in This League.

  60. keepyerstickontheice says: Oct 7, 2011 7:39 PM

    Juan Castillo has a scheme?

  61. ifinallyhadtosignupsoicanbeatrosenthalatff says: Oct 7, 2011 11:25 PM

    Why don’t we throw Denver one of our 13 or so picks for Dawkins back. Denver is going nowhere and they know it. Dawk could fix this crew real quick. All parties would agree to this. Sometimes the simplest solution is the correct solution. We don’t need a leader like Dawkins, we need a leader who is Dawkins.

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