Undisciplined Eagles fall to 1-4

AP

The Eagles have plenty of talent.  What they lack is discipline.

That quality manifested itself in various ways during Sunday’s 31-24 loss to the Bills, whether through missed tackles or poor ball security or mismanagement of the clock late in the first half or four Mike Vick interceptions.

Ultimately, the undisciplined nature of the Eagles came through with the game on the line and the Bills lined up for a fourth down and short play near midfield.  Everyone in the stadium — and everyone watching the game (and some who weren’t) — knew the Bills were simply trying to get the Eagles to jump offside.  And, still, defensive lineman Juqua Parker did just that.

Game over.

The loss (not to mention the career-worst four picks) overshadows 400-plus yards from Vick, including 90 rushing yards and the new all-time NFL rushing record for quarterbacks.

Bills linebacker Nick Barnett had two of the interceptions, one of which was returned for a touchdown and the other of which came late in the game with the Eagles threatening to tie.

The Eagles have lost four straight for the first since 2005, and it’s the worst start for the team since Andy Reid’s first year as head coach, way back in 1999.

Coincidentally, the worst start since his first year could be coming in his last.

144 responses to “Undisciplined Eagles fall to 1-4

  1. It is one thing to have a roster laden with talent.

    It’s another thing to get all that talent to play together as one cohesive unit.

    Philly is in for some tough times if they can’t get everyone on the same page.

    And how about them Bills?

  2. Quoting Bob Sugar, “Somebody finally said it.”

    Thank you!

    While I love watching a train wreck, this squad just has way too much talent for it to waste away like it is.

  3. Season is over. Realistically the Eagles probably need at least 10 wins to make the playoffs.

    I don’t see them going 9-2 to finish the season.

  4. I’m an Eagles fan, and I’ll tell you the bright side: at least the bandwagoners are gone now.

  5. Dead pool time: how long will Andy Reid last? Fired during the season (name a week), or after?

  6. The Eagles Defense was terrible. Again. Why they hired a Defensive Coordinator with little NFL experience is beyond me. They could have hired anyone in the NFL but they chose to hire the in house O-Line Coach. Brilliant Andy. Brilliant.

  7. Ralph was rockin, how bout givn bills sum love pft, instead of way eagles played, if it’s not jets, eagles, favor or tebow , it’s not a story. What a joke

  8. Redskins are 1st place. See you next week. Yes, the taste of last year’s 59-28 whooping is still bitter in our mouths.

  9. I think all NFL fans(except the eagles ones) are enjoying this.My team is in the same position but we are not ‘the dream team’ then again neither are the eagles.

  10. The “dreamteam” is having a nightmare season……Vince Young can cause his team to lose even when he’s not playing, LOL

  11. How in the world do you not get at least a field goal at the end of the 1st half! Poor game management bites them again for a second game in a row. Who ever is on the other side of the speaker in Vick’s helment should be telling him don’t waste to much time looking for a TD. Lets be smart and leave a few seconds for the FG team to put up some points.
    The Dream Team is now the Cream (Puff) Team. Signing all these big name free agents and making that Kolb trade may have worked in Madden, but it doesn’t translate in the realy world.

  12. like i said in another thread…..rex grossman is starting to look like a prophet. the eagles are total a disgrace, my giants are the worst 3 win team in football, and the cowboys have tony romo.

    washington redskins…..your 2011 nfc east champs.

  13. The nightmare team. Michael Vick professional dog killer, semi-professional football player.

  14. This just keeps getting funnier. I love nothing more than watching vick fail as a starting qb. I have nothing against Philly as I am a bears fan, but vick is a despicable human being. I understand he supposably “paid his dues” but that don’t change the fact that he murdered defenseless animals.

  15. Cullen, Cullen, Cullen.

    You could have been part of something special up here in Green Bay.

    Now you’re just part of something…”special.”

  16. Firing Sean McDermott was absolutely moronic. Carolina is holding better offenses with far less talent but the Eagles can’t stop anyone to save their life. The team isn’t responding to Reid so it looks like there is a good chance he gets fired this offseason. The ship is sinking and fast.

  17. Vick’s trash talk of “Can’t design a defense to stop me” should have been “can’t design a defense to help me”. hahahahahahaha

  18. Hahahaha!! Dream Team! I guess the eagles fans were right when Vick played for the Falcons – get a real QB.

    Anyway, couldn’t happen to a more deserving group of fans.

  19. WE SUCK. Plain and simple. We turnover the ball over, we cannot tackle to save our lives, and to top it off, our defensive coordinator has not A CLUE as to what the hell he is doing. People want to blame Andy Reid for the loss but besides the clock management at the end of the half, which was mostly Vick’s fault, he didn’t really coach a bad game. It’s time to put an end to the Juan Castillo era. It’s getting out of hand and its becoming more and more embarassing every week.

  20. Looks like Freddy Krueger has been playing for the “Dream” team’s opponents. Odd how the Eagles are the only 1 win team or worse that isn’t mentioned in the “suck for Luck” posts

  21. Not an Eagles fans but at least two and possibly 3 of Vick’s 4 INT’s were either tipped at the line of scrimmage or bounced off receivers hands. Avant had a fumble and their OL was terrible. Oh yeah and their defense had too many missed tackles to count. Plenty of blame to go around.

  22. scudbot says: Oct 9, 2011 5:23 PM

    Everybody’s going to bash the Eagles – deservedly – but I want to high five Nick Collins.
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    I think you mean Nick Barnett, Nick Collins is out for the season.

  23. Good thing is a bunch of those free agents were signed to 1 year deals…bad thing is the players performing badly are the ones signed to long term deals. And they can deal with Desean contract next off season while cap strapped

  24. The Dream Team…………………
    ” cry Eagles cry,,,,,on the road to misery
    E a g l e s …..stink
    No Super bowl for you…..

  25. The season is close to over for the Eagles. They need to finish the season 9-2 just to have a 10-6 record and a chance at making the playoffs. I don’t see that happening.

  26. As a fan ,,I am happy they lost again.

    Just about all Eagle fans,,understand NFL football,
    and KNOW , we can’t win with this Defense.

    The Whole NFC East sucks …

    And the Idiots here, think that think Vick is the problem … absolutely don’t know anything abot the NFL.

    but ,,then again, they think their NFC East team is good.

    the whole NFC East “just plain suck”.

    nuff said

  27. I like when these article have brand new paragraphs for dramatic effect.

    Like this.

    It really adds a lot to the article.

  28. the whole NFC East “just plain suck”.

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    Oh no you don’t. You’re not gonna drag the rest of the NFC East down to the Eagles level. That’s a whole new level of “suck”.

  29. LMAOOOOOOO

    How does Andy Reid still have a job? For all of that ‘talent’, the Eagles are the sloppiest, most undisciplined, poorly managed team in the league and their clock management is horrifying.

    Looking forward to my “Deadskins” putting the nail in your coffin next week.

    Phailadelphia – where sports go to die.

    Sincerely,

    Division leading and 3 time Super Bowl Champion Washington Redskins

  30. 4 Pick Vick. Enjoy the 100 million you wasted Eagles.. Mike Vick, coach killer, dog killer..Karma.

  31. I love this. I can’t wait for next week to get some payback for the thumping on MNF. Hail To The Redskins.
    Living in Philly For a decade I have learned to love the annual collapse of the Eagles as much as I love when the Redskins win. Hail.

  32. city of philadelphia may committ suicide this week like the iggles did today and the phils di d the other night!
    could’nt happen to a worse place!

  33. The Shoeman says:
    Oct 9, 2011 6:01 PM
    As a fan ,,I am happy they lost again.

    Just about all Eagle fans,,understand NFL football,
    and KNOW , we can’t win with this Defense.

    The Whole NFC East sucks …

    And the Idiots here, think that think Vick is the problem … absolutely don’t know anything abot the NFL.

    but ,,then again, they think their NFC East team is good.

    the whole NFC East “just plain suck”.

    nuff said

     ————————————————

    Dude, your comma philosophy of one is never enough is the same one Andy Reid uses with regard to pie.

  34. Ya know Vince Young did pop off with the Dream Team comment and the team has failed to deliver.

    Yet, to me, the more glaring comment was not made by Vince Young it was made by Vickey when he popped off “They cant design a defense….”

    You can say what you want about all the Egirls inflated records but that Bills defense took the ball from the Egirls today. They flat out took it from them.
    Vickey is a loudmouth. Way to beat that azz today Bills.

  35. Andy Reid and Howie Roseman are to blame. Reid is the coach and chose Castillo as the d-coach, for some odd reason. No discipline and no defense. This is as clear cut of a decision as there has been.
    Howie needs to be gone for his horrible drafts.

    Lurie do it now, we cant take it anymore.

  36. Great coaches who the players respect and they know can do the job well can get players to play far better than the players ever thought they could play.Andy really screwed up by hiring his offensive line coach as defensive coordinator because it made the line and defense weak.Hopefully Spagnuolo will get fired by the Rams and the Eagles can hire him as defensive coordinator to fix the defense and then move Juan Castillo back to offensive line coach.

  37. Philly fans are better then all of you haters. I love Philly and my fellow fans. Wouldnt want it any other way you punks.

  38. It’s pretty hilarious how much the sports media seems to have invested in Vick and the Eagles being successful…

    To the point where all you’re hearing is all the mistakes the Eagles made to lose the game, versus all the stellar plays the Bills made to win the game..

    Buffalo is clearly getting undercut in the respect department this week… However, I think in the grand scheme of things that’s better for them..

  39. *Eagles organization*

    1.) Let’s sign Nnamdi Asomugha and make him play zone coverage (something he NEVER played in Oakland).

    2.) Let’s sign Vince Young as our back-up cause he kind of reminds us of Vick, so he must be good *shrug*

    3.) Let’s draft Casey Matthews just because of who his brother is, not cause of his piss poor NFL potential.

    4.) Let’s sign Rodgers-Cromartie just to make him our slot corner where he clearly isn’t comfortable.

    5.) Let’s pray that our two young safeties play like our veteran corners.

    6.) Let’s sign Steve Smith, but by the way, we’re not actually going to give him that much playing time.

    7.) Lets try Ronnie Brown cause he did good in the wildcat even though it only worked for ONE year on the Dolphins.

    So you mean to tell me these off-season acquisitions led 70% of America to believe this was a dream team?

    Bandwagons’ stupidity never ceases to amaze me.

  40. tigrrrr –

    karma? losing football games is karma? hahaha karma means not being entertained (for the fans who root for vick).. or receiving bad marks at your job (while getting paid millions of dollars)? seriously, give it a rest.. first, if you believe in karma, then you know it’s not your position to judge… second, if *this* is karma, then no one should fear karma.. third, jason avant is the goat in this game and i’m positive he’s a better person than just about anyone posting here… fourth, you should spend less time protesting on a pro-football blog and spend your time volunteering to help save animals, since you’re so passionate… i get that you hate mike vick for what he’s done… and i can’t judge your opinion on that one, but when you make it your personal mission to dwell on it (on a football website, when it has nothing to do w/ football), i dunno.. i think you just need new missions… follow some other ex-cons to work and keep bringing up their past actions, see how far that gets you..

    but yea, getting back to the actual game, haha.. siiiiigh… something tells me that vy cursed us w/ that comment in training camp.. at least that’s the way it looks… can’t say that any of the teams we’ve played have been “better”.. a lot of freak mistakes/turnovers are really showing how small the margin of error is in the NFL… i’m running out of weeks to be able to say “just wait until this team puts it together!”… oh well, we’ll see

  41. I won’t claim to be a lawyer or previous lawyer and I certainly don’t understand contracts but, at what point to the Eagles start to look at cutting their losses with Vick? They got rid of Kolb and a lot of people thought they got over on Arizona and this week they put their best qb on reserve (or something like that). 100 mil in cheese is alot for someone producing what he does and a 1-4 record. Hell, you are tied with the Vikings, etc…

    Shibacle in Philly

  42. Buffalo played like crap in the second half…I’m sick of the conservative “keep the lead” mentality….it’s how we lost to the Bengals and it’s how we almost lost to Philly.

    I’m glad we got the W…but we’ve gotta figure out how to play well for both halfs.

    Go Bills!!!

  43. If Romo gets killed by the media after the game last week, the same needs to be done to Vick. Both lost the game for their teams, and their defenses didn’t help.

  44. It is a good thing that the eggles paid Vick all that money and have him wrapped up for years to come!!!!!! LOL! DREAM TEAM!!!!!!HAHAHAHA

  45. Let me see, how many times did I have to read this last year: “The good teams find a way to win.”

    Seems a good a time as any to play that card.

  46. You are what your record says you are. Vick is about 2 – 8 in his last 10 games (passing statistics have become meaningless in the NFL so I don’t care how may yards passing he has to go along with his 4 interceptions today).

    Therefore, he and the Eagles are both losers.

  47. Michael Vick did not lose this game for the Eagles. As horrific as the first half was, he led the team back in the 2nd. Romo is all world in the first half and kills the Cowboys in the second.

    Secondly, if Avant holds onto the ball, who knows what happens? But he doesn’t. Just like Maclin didn’t last week. Just like Maclin dropped the pass against Atlanta.

    Vick has struggled, but he hasn’t singlehandedly been the reason the way Romo was in their losses.

  48. As for this being “karma” for Vick being a dogkiller, I guess Miami, Indy, Minnesota, Arizona, Denver, Carolina, Jacksonville must all be full of dogkillers.

    Y’all better call PETA.

  49. The Eagles have plenty of talented players. The problem is that their best players are a bunch of idiots. There aren’t many players in the NFL dumber than Vick and Jackson. You can’t fix stupid.

  50. @skins23. Hahaha rub it in bro. All the smack this team talked and all the smack their fans talked is priceless. All skins fans rem last years loss. Can’t wait til Sunday to truly put this team away.

  51. GUYS….RELAX…All the Eagles need to do is sign some high priced free agents, and give a QB who spent 2 + years in federal prison a $100 Million dollar contract and they will be fine!

    Geeez …… It will be all good!

    LOL @ Philly

  52. I don’t see how Vick keeps getting blamed for all the interceptions. It seems at least a few have gone off receivers’ hands the past few weeks. Kolb would fare no better with this team. McNabb would lead the league in being sacked. I still blame a very crappy defense that actually showed a few signs of life in the second half. I think these guys will actually beat the Skins after everyone writes them off. The division still stinks and that is their greatest hope for a playoff berth.

  53. The Eagles play defense like its an NBA all-star game, it’s laughable. They need to cut someone this week to make a point or fire a coach! I’m utterly shocked that the media has been so nice to them, they are a mess!

  54. So nice seeing vick squirm…and fail. Love all of his turnovers! Love seeing HIS fans getted pi$$ed.
    I do feel sorry for the real eagle fans who know he is a cancer on their beloved team. Let him fail, each failure is one closer to the day he is gone and the eagles can begin to be respected again!

  55. Michael Vick did not lose this game for the Eagles. As horrific as the first half was, he led the team back in the 2nd. Romo is all world in the first half and kills the Cowboys in the second.

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    Romo has led two actual second half comebacks this year. That’s two more than Michael Pick. Hint: It ain’t a comeback if you lose.

  56. Were prolly the best team that can put up numbers and don’t care about the WIN LOST column.

    I don’t care how nor whatever it takes. Aslong there isn’t any injuries,JUST WIN the dawm ball game!

    To all my fellow eagles fans and bandwagoners, I guarantee you if the birds beat the skins on next Sunday, the momentum will start to flourish heading into the bye as we come back from the bye at home the next 3 games.

    GO EAGLES!

  57. Vick has struggled, but he hasn’t singlehandedly been the reason the way Romo was in their losses.

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    Oh I see, so a blocked punt returned for a TD against the Jets was Romo’s fault. And a WR letting a DB get in front of him on a timing slant is Romo’s fault, too. If neither of those happens, guess what? The Cowboys are 4-0. But they did happen and the Cowboys are 2-2 in large part because of Romo’s miscues just like the Eagirls are 1-4 in large part because of Vick’s miscues. Live with it.

  58. @midnightgreen85
    Why don’t YOU go & defend some other ex-cons. Sorry, what was that? Unless they play for your team you aren’t interested in supporting them? Hmmm why is that not surprising from Eagle fans?

    People have every right to feel about Vick as they do. Just as lowbrows have every right to defend him due to personal agenda or fandom.

    Part of an being a star NFL QB is character, like it or not your QB is of (being factious) questionable character. He runs his mouth in interviews talking about his past with words like “what did I ever do to anybody?” He still doesn’t get it & never will.

    He has never had back to back winning seasons, he has always disappointed in the playoffs. It’s not anyone’s fault but his own that the only thing he seems to excel in is torturing animals for personal enjoyment. The really effed part is it’s part of his character, it’s what’s inside him, what he is made of. Torture of any living thing because it amuses you is brutally soulless.

    If ya mad people bring it up blame Vick that it’s brought up not the people that know what a sick SOB he is.

  59. pacash80 says: Oct 9, 2011 5:20 PM

    I’m an Eagles fan, and I’ll tell you the bright side: at least the bandwagoners are gone now.
    =================================

    Like the Eagle’s playoff chances.

  60. From the piece on nbcsports.com

    “”All week, we talked about getting after Vick,” Barnett said. “Containing Vick is a hard job for anybody. We were trying to make him uneasy, make him think too fast.””

    And we all see how that worked out today.

    Make him think to fast, thats great!

  61. Ok can we agree that the Coach might not be as smart as he reports to be? Will he held accountable.

  62. I do not even know how the escum can get to DC the wheels have fallen off the bus.

    The thing I love most about the NFL is the Giants winning the thing that takes second is that low life scum Vick getting his butt kicked

    Is it week 11 yet????

  63. News out of Philly is Steve Smith called the Giants and said PLEASE let me come home

    And he was told stay in filthy we have Victor Cruz control

  64. jpmelon says:
    Oct 9, 2011 6:57 PM

    Buffalo played like crap in the second half…I’m sick of the conservative “keep the lead” mentality….it’s how we lost to the Bengals and it’s how we almost lost to Philly.

    I’m glad we got the W…but we’ve gotta figure out how to play well for both halfs.

    ————–

    Do the Bills throw the ball downfield usually?

    Cause the Eagles started selling out to stop the run-game in the second half…and were all over the screens the Bills used to get their lead.

    I can remember one five-step drop the whole game from Fitz…and he got sacked.

    Everything else was draws/screens/slants…

    I only ask to get a true measure of the Bills…who looked good at what they were trying to do in the 1st half….they kept the same gameplan in the 2nd half and it almost backfired.

    Congratz to the Bills and their fans…

    Maybe next week my Iggles will hold onto the ball.

    Go Eagles.

  65. The Eagles played well considering they have the worst defensive coordinator in the history of the NFL (Castillo), the worst safety in the NFL (Page) and the most overrated coach in the NFL (Reid).

  66. i can’t stand fans that talk about their team using the word ‘we’ like they’re part of the team. if they had any talent ‘we’ wouldn’t be sitting behind a computer telling a team what they should do

  67. iggles20 says:
    “Secondly, if Avant holds onto the ball, who knows what happens? “.
    Is this the same Jason Avant that Andy Reid stated to have the Best Hands in the NFL?

    McCoy is a beast and needs to feed the ball more. As a team you do what you do best till the other team stops you. It is so strange how simple that theory is and not many team do that.

  68. What does 100 mil get you? How about 1-7 in his last eight starts. Enjoy that Philly fans. Oh yeah – dream team

  69. How about ONE sentence about the what the Bills did today…How about the fact that the Bills bounced back from a horrible loss last week? Or the fact that the Bills defenders played a key role in all of the five turnovers. No respect. I guess that’s how it’s going to have to be…it’s us against the world WNY. GO BILLS

  70. So karma for some of you idiots is losing some football games? If that is it for abusing dogs I’ll take that anyday plus the 100 mil. You guys are weak minded losers who have no life and have to hold on to someones past to validate yourselves. Vick will always own you people cause you give him to much power over you. It’s been how many years?? and you’re still delusional and act like it was one of your relatives. OH I forgot you probably can’t relate to humans

  71. i can’t stand fans that talk about their team using the word ‘we’ like they’re part of the team

    I generally try to not phrase it that way myself, but,

    some fans, like me, have been fans of a team for a longer period of time than anyone associated with the team, including the owner.

    So I can understand it from some people.

  72. Eagles 2011 season eerily similar to Cowboys 2010 campaign.

    Pre-Season consensus Super Bowl Champs.

    Clueless HC’s. Pillsbury Dough-Boy comes to mind.

    Rave reviews about all the “talent”, ignoring the flaws in guys like Vick and Romo. Also, many holes in key spots like OL, LB, S, etc.

    Lots of teams have equivalent talent, but better coaching, better chemistry and better records.

  73. themonkeyman –

    if you think i was defending vick’s actions, you clearly haven’t seen any of my other posts… i most certainly was NOT defending vick’s prior actions… i think it’s pretty effed up actually… and coming from where i come from, i’d think someone had to be pretty sick to actually carry through w/ that sort of thing… in addition, i always hated his alma mater and his attitude even BEFORE the dog fighting thing, so i’m not some lifelong vick fan… obviously, i root for my team regardless.. but if i didn’t see a change in the way he talked and held himself, it’d take me longer to warm up (i mean, i watch every press conference of every eagles employee lol)..

    howEVER, this is an article about the eagles and their record and the game they just lost… has NOTHING to do w/ what happened years ago… if we’re talking about what’s happening now, we’re talking about football… if we want to talk about how vick is treating dogs right NOW – a. he’s not allowed to have dogs and b. he’s out volunteering time (w/o media coverage) to talk to children and convince them not to take the same route he took…

    all i’m asking is why this is the proper forum to speak out about something unrelated and something that is no longer happening?… you’re not bringing back any of those dogs… b*tching on profootballtalk won’t do it.. chastising mike vick online won’t do it… even volunteering on your own won’t do it… but at least vick’s doing that, and i doubt ppl commenting here and giving me thumbs down are… being mad at someone and hating someone, that ish can take a lot out of you… ESPECIALLY when they can’t hear you or respond…

  74. I think the Eagles are just a couple of players away from a championship. They just need to trade for Wes Welker, Darrell Revis, Clay Matthews, and Dwight Freeney and they should be good to go.

  75. Andy must be nervous about his job stability – he ate two boxes of TastyKakes in his 5 minute post-game press conference.

  76. I can’t belive some of the bs coming out of some Eagles fans. Fitz was sacked on 5 step drop? When? He was sacked once out of the shotgun. I also hope that Philly didn’t go all out to stop the run, because if they did, it didn’t work. That game shouldn’t have been that close. There was a drive in the second half where the Bills were backed up an threw 3 straight passes, they could have easily chewed off another 3-4 min, which would have probaly stopped one of Philly’s scoring drives. I also am sick of hearing how tipped pass picks aren’t the same as a true pick. It isn’t luck that. balls are tipped. Lineman are trained to
    get their hands up and it causes tipped passes, and Qb should be aware of that when they throw the ball. So all of thoae picks were vicks fault and not just lucky bounces. This Bills yeam needs to be getting way more credit for their wins, they keep showing they are a top 3 team in the afc, yet its always a sob story for the opposing team. I prefee a defense that’s holds up well against the run, and makes plays on the ball in the secondary anyways.

  77. Vick is such a loser… and the Eagles are bigger losers for giving this POS the contract they did. I hope they don’t win another game so long as Vick is their QB, and the way hes playing, thats a very real possibility.

  78. Vick will always own you people cause you give him to much power over you.

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    Power?

    Guess what… my prosecutors sent Vick to prison. My prison guards made him cry himself to sleep every night. Guess what else… it probably won’t be the last time.

  79. Rave reviews about all the “talent”, ignoring the flaws in guys like Vick and Romo. Also, many holes in key spots like OL, LB, S, etc.

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    Why are you dragging the Cowboys into this? Did they go out and buy up all the free agents? Did somebody make a proclamation that you cant design a defense to stop them? Did someone on the team declare the 2010 Cowboys a “Dream Team” or something similar? Your problem is with the media.

  80. all i’m asking is why this is the proper forum to speak out about something unrelated and something that is no longer happening?… you’re not bringing back any of those dogs… b*tching on profootballtalk won’t do it.. chastising mike vick online won’t do it… even volunteering on your own won’t do it…

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    Can’t hurt. Call it therapeutic.

  81. @ drew05

    Yes, the Bills typically have a deep threat with Stevie Johnson and Donald Jones. It seems that the Bills decided to exploit a weak run defence and avoid the Eagles secondary almost completely (particularly Naamdi). I like the mentality, I hate that the Bills failed to make adjustments in the second half. Anyone who watched that game realized how close the eagles came to getting it to overtime. I think the Eagles had enough momentum to win the game if they would have had a chance in overtime.

    The Eagles made too many mistakes, but that is part of the game. The Bills earned this win, but it wasn’t pretty.

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  83. Why is it always that when the Bills win, it’s that the other team had a bad day? When the Bills beat the Patriots, they had 4-5 turnovers, and now with the Eagles about the same. Could it be the Bills played well enough to cause the turnovers and the defense shook up Brady and Vick? The Bills were underdogs against the Patriots and the Eagles and yet won big-time, and yet still get very little respect.

  84. I am a Long suffering Eagles fan and I want to give Props to the Bills Team . Yeah we made alot of stupid mistakes but the Bills were there to cash in of them, Well played . Good luck the rest of the season.

  85. The eagles are undisciplined as a team, and vick was undisciplined for the horrible things he did to animals.

    His just wasnt a case of dog fighting, he went above and beyond to inflict horrific pain and cruel punishment on the dogs that lost fights for him. He also threw his house pets in with trained fighters, to warm them up to blood, as he stood back and laughed at the pet being torn apart.

    Search for the government report “USDA report and Vick”, and read the details of what this POS did for 6 years. See if you support him after that and think he paid his debt!

  86. You idiots that are trying to blame Vick are crazy. Vick is the least of the eagles problems. He threw 4 INTs but most all of them were tipped high in the air and only really 1 was his fault. He still carries the ball a little loose for my liking but this is 2 games in a row where he produced 400+ yards of offense himself (last week it was close to 500 himself). Vick is moving the eagles up and down the field. I put the blame on the defense and redzone offenseive playcalling to be honest… the turnovers/fumbles from the whole offense doesn’t help either…

    But Vick is NOT the problem, everything considered he is playing pretty good and you can see the new (pocket passing) Vick is here to stay. he hasn’t reverted back to “first read not there hes gone” Vick like many of you said he would…

  87. Oh tigrr – shut the heck up. Enough with the dog fighting thing. Its gotten really old. Your showing very poor character by still harping on it… get a life kid

  88. Hey 000morris000…

    I think its old to keep hearing the 1-4 start is not Vick’s fault, but I dont tell you to shut up. Get some class. Also, its not the dog fighting thing only…he tortured these animals in ways that no normal person would think of doing, or even be capable of doing.

    I am entitled to express my opinion , as you are.
    Vick is a POS.. and should not be allowed to play in the NFL. Him being there is a smack in the face to all the sincere decent people of our country. Justice was NOT served in his case.

  89. @ o0omorriso0o

    Idiots?

    Shut the hell up?

    It’s ok to defend someone to deep down just inhuman & evil then call others names & tell others to “shut the hell up”.

    And it the “other people” that have poor character huh?

  90. Three Shanahan RBs versus the Eagles vaunted rush defense? Shanahan is licking his chops. Any grumble you heard was Reid’s, not Shanahan’s, stomach.

  91. if we can start playing disciplined smart football and change a few things on the D (wide 9 every down!) then we could easily turn this around.

    Every game we lost we were in a position to win late…….The Falcons were down my two scores when Vick went down in the 4th. The Giants game was back and forth but the Eagles had a 16-14 lead in the 2nd half. The Niners game the Eagles dominated in the first then seemed to coast through the 2nd losing by 1. The Bills dominated us on the ground and in TOP but we were still in a position to tie late in the 4th. Everyone of those games we were able to dominate the opposition for a portion of the game, if we can get that kind of production for close to 60 minutes we would be scary.

    not saying we deserve to win any of those games, but we are a 1-4 team that is some bonehead plays and some focus away from being at worst a 3-2 team. The talent is there, and Andy Reid has proved if nothing else he is resilient and is one of the best second half coaches in the league.

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