Kolb suggests accountability is a problem in Arizona

AP

For three straight weeks, the Cardinals came up with creative ways to torture their fanbase, losing in different ways late in the fourth quarter.

Arizona put their fans out of their misery early Sunday against Minnesota. It has a lot of people in Arizona remembering the pre-Whisenhunt days for the franchise.

Starting quarterback Kevin Kolb suggested that the team’s professionalism could improve.

“That’s the problem. It’s not one person making a lot of mistakes; it’s all of us making one or two mistakes,” Kolb said via the Arizona Republic. “That’s where details come in. The head coach hit the nail on the head: We’ve got to get back to detail-oriented football.

“It starts with meetings. It starts with showing up to work on time, getting in early, getting your work done. All of the stuff that a professional is supposed to do.”

While he didn’t outright say it, Kolb is suggesting that his Cardinals teammates lack discipline in their preparation.

The calls for Whisenhunt’s head in Arizona seem silly, but the Cardinals coach has a mounting challenge in turning this season around. They can’t blame everything on Derek Anderson, John Skelton, and Max Hall this year.

49 responses to “Kolb suggests accountability is a problem in Arizona

  1. “They can’t blame everything on Derek Anderson, John Skelton, and Max Hall this year.”

    No, but they could definitely blame Kevin Kolb, but even moreso the gm who traded for him given the dearth of game tape on the guy. Props for taking the risk, better luck next time.

  2. They should blame whoever pulled the trigger on an idiotic trade to send a second round draft pick and top-tier CB in exchange for a QB that couldn’t even keep a gift-wrapped starting job.

    I don’t usually think fans know better than NFL personnel offices, but this is a big exception.

  3. “The calls for Whisenhunt’s head in Arizona seem silly”

    Honestly, take away Kurt Warner and this team never would have had a winning record under Whiz. Not to mention the fact that Dennis Green is the one who brought in Warner.

    Whiz simply has done nothing especially when you consider the weak division and easy schedules thats favored the Cards during his tenure.

  4. newagerocker says: Kind of ironic that The Eagles, Cards and Vikings are all 1-4.

    You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means

  5. As a Minnesota Viking diehard you would think I (we) would be elated with yesterday’s victory. However after the 1st quarter the Vikings went into the tank. They easily could’ve beaten the Cardinals by 60 points, but Donovan McNabb has some serious issues-he’s just not that good unfortunately and the Vikings still lack serious production in the second half. The defense looked good but the offense still sucks. How bout that first half when the Vikings could’ve really snapped the neck off the Cardinals just before halftime, but for some inexplicable reason went into a shell? How about “4” quarters of football Vikings?

  6. I never thought that the niners would look like geniuses for passing on this guy and staying with Alice Smith. Did you know that Alice smith has 3rd best passing rating in the league behind Brady and Rogers? WTF is going on!?

  7. I agree. The calls for Coach W’s head are silly. He’s a good coach, not great, but good. He’s takena AZ to heights they’d never known before while in AZ. He’s earned himself some slack. People who say “well X head coach would’ve never been anything without Y player” are just stupid. You name me one coach in any sport who ever won without talent.

    Like that Belichick guy. That loser would have never won anything without Tom Brady! And Phil Jackson. That idiot is nothing without Jordan, Pippen, Shaq and Kobe!

    Just stupid.

  8. “NoHomeTeam says:
    Oct 10, 2011 1:17 PM
    newagerocker says: Kind of ironic that The Eagles, Cards and Vikings are all 1-4.

    You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means”

    Definition of ironic: Happening in the opposite way to what is expected, thus typically causing wry amusement.

    No, NHT, I know EXACTLY what it means and I am using it EXACTLY the way I want in order to describe the situation as it refers to the aforementioned teams expectations.

  9. ahhhhhhhh,, i cant believe i just now figured this one out.

    Andy Reid is setting himself up for disaster. His aim is to suck this season. How else can you explain his terrible personel decisions and terrible in game coaching?? HE IS TRYING TO THROW THIS SEASON.

    Check it out./ Andy tanks and gets fired towards the end of the season. Arizona sux, Whisenhunt gets fired too. Then its as simple as a phone call, Andy and the family get a ride to AZ.
    Andy gets united with his favorite QB. And leads the Cardinals to 5 consecutive titles, cause Kevin Kolb is the best QB in the league.

    Andy never wanted to trade Kolb,, Banner and Laurie knew Vick would create more profit for the team. Andy was upset by the decision. He throws the season and gets a nice retirement set up in Arizon

    genius,, what a smart individual.

  10. ninerdynasty says:
    Oct 10, 2011 1:33 PM
    Did you know that Alice smith has 3rd best passing rating in the league behind Brady and Rogers? WTF is going on!?
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    I like to see the Niners have some success, but you can’t imagine he’s going to finish the year up in that stratosphere, do you? Not every game will be a massive stat-padder like this one against Tampa was. Very easy to maintain high passer efficiency when your opponent is totally listless and all other phases of your team are dominant at the same time. When you put up 48pts but only 170yds through the air, lots of other things are going right besides great QB play.
    Not hating on Smith, I always thought if some coach showed some confidence and gave him work he’d turn out to be good, I hope he keeps it up. Can’t wait til you come to town next week to face the Lions! Should be good.

  11. “The head coach hit the nail on the head: We’ve got to get back to detail-oriented football.”

    I don’t see a disconnect here, he’s supporting what the coach said.

  12. i just vomitted on the keyboard..

    & it is funny that any team associated with a Eagles WR is 1-4. .

    Reid has fooled the league into thinking he is smart/good

  13. I’ve been saying for the last few weeks since post have been coming out about kolb…ill say it once again the guy is not good arizona gave up too much…I’ve seen all his games at philly..played good against bad. teams and horrible against good..ill say this again he threw the ball a lot in philly that’s the reason for his numbers…he’s a flat out bum…not basing it off of this yr but every game I have seen him play in his nfl career in philly

  14. chocolatebaconbutter says:
    You name me one coach in any sport who ever won without talent.

    Like that Belichick guy. That loser would have never won anything without Tom Brady! And Phil Jackson. That idiot is nothing without Jordan, Pippen, Shaq and Kobe!

    Just stupid.
    ==============================
    Yes indeed! You are stupid.

  15. Kolb has issues with arm strength and decision making. If the Cardinals couldn’t see that, they shouldn’t have NFL jobs.

    The o-line in front of him, is so bad that it also highlights his short comings. With his noodle arm and slow brain, the 2 seconds he has before he’s hit just isn’t enough for him to have a chance. Fitz can’t even save him, there is no time for him to get any seperation.

    As an Eagles fan, I’ll say the trade was even. DRC can’t tackle, and only seems to run full speed once the player is past him on his way to the endzone.

  16. The #1 guy who needs to be held accountable is Kevin Kolb. He sucks. I have no idea why people hyped him up so much.

  17. I think the Cards got a bit desperate after last year’s debacle, where the starter (Leinart) was fired in the preseason and the Three Stooges of Anderson, Hall, and Skelton were abysmal. This is clearly Whisenhunt’s fault, because he is the one who fired Leinart in favor of the other three.

    I further think they had a strong case of “target fixation” where Kolb was concerned. They had an opportunity to get Gabbert or Locker in the draft and passed. The free-agent crop wasn’t that appealing, and Kolb was really the only name available as far as trades.

    I think Whisenhunt felt the pressure to get someone, and management definitely felt the pressure, since Fitzgerald was threatening to leave if they didn’t address the QB situation. They got Kolb, and Fitz re-signed, but now they have to make it work. “Wiz” may have taken the Cards to a SB, but both he and management banked on Kolb to be the future of QB. If he’s not, Whisenhunt and Graves will likley lose their jobs over it.

    Which won’t happen until next season at the earliest. I think the jury is still out on Kolb. The Cards are a team with some issues beyond QB, and he was signed only about six weeks before the season started. If he’s still playing this way at this time next year, the “bust”label will be appropriate.

    It is rather interesting to contemplate, though, that at the moment, the NFC West teams that went with Alex Smith and Tavaris Jackson appear to have made better choices than going after Kolb.

  18. “Definition of ironic: Happening in the opposite way to what is expected, thus typically causing wry amusement.

    No, NHT, I know EXACTLY what it means and I am using it EXACTLY the way I want in order to describe the situation as it refers to the aforementioned teams expectations.”
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    You expected the Vikings and Cardinals to be good this year? lol

  19. Kolb on The Kob = Over Rated
    Vick “Refs are against Me” = Over Rated
    Romo “The Choke Artist” = Over Rated

    Feel sorry for these fans. It will be a Very, VERY long time before you even see playoff.

  20. Oh, and did you know the Cards have the third-oldest roster in the NFL? It’s one thing to be young and bad, like Seattle, because there’s always hope for improvement (which seems to be happening in Seattle’s case). Being old and bad means you need to get some new players. The Cards definintely need some, especially on the offensive line and at outside LB. Porter and Haggans are done.

  21. Donovan, Barney called, he wants his costume back.

    *****************************************
    LOL! That comment is priceless!

    Honestly, the quarterbacking in yesterday’s game was woefully bad on both sides. Thank God for Adrian Peterson and the Viking DEs.

    One thing that is becoming quite clear about Arizona is just how much Kurt Warner meant to this team. Since Warner’s retirement, they’ve gone from a Super Bowl team / contender to an also-ran in the league’s weakest division.

  22. Two things… D-Mac: Holy god, do some cardio. Kolb: It could be worse… You could still be here in Philly.

  23. look at the Vikings second half again of the game…offense totally sucked again minus ap & a couple of end arounds by wr’s. cards had all day to get back in the game, thankfully your qb sucks more than ours does right now.

  24. What in the hell is this guy talking about? He has a WR that could literally just outjump the defender on almost every throw, yet he looks to his second and third receivers more than Fitzgerald.

    Also, since when do doughy QBs talk about professionalism? Mix in some salads and be the leader you’re being paid to be. If there’s a problem, YOU fix it. You’re the QB.

  25. I thought my team’s QB (McPuke) was bad until I went to the game Sunday. At least we didn’t give up a 2nd rounder and a pro bowl corner for our ground-pounding QB.

  26. phila front office is really smart, as a Redskins fan I admited, last year we were too stupid to give them a 2 nd round for a bum. what I didn’t expect is: there would b teams giving them much more for even worse then the bum we had. They should atleast try to get Vick with that deal , not that unproven qb.

  27. I can’t get who ever thought Kolb was good…it baffles me. This is a QB driven league, and if you don’t have a good one, you are mediocre at best. I hate to bust the bubble of those in AZ, but they should have given the damn ball to Leinart. He is better than anything they have put on the roster since.

  28. Everything Kolb says might be true…but the time to say it is NOT right after a game where he threw 2 INTs and lost a fumble. Rather than sounding like a leader he sounds like he’s making excuses for his own bad play.

    The Cards have had a disaster at the QB position since Kurt Warner retired and most of it has been self-inflicted. Warner gave them plenty of time to have an heir apparent in place and they decided Leinart was going to be their guy. Huge mistake. Then they compounded it by wasting all the reps on him before cutting him during the preseason…and they did it despite having probably the worst batch of backups the league has ever seen. (If memory serves, Anderson was below 50% completions when he inherited the starting job.) Nobody to fault for that but themselves. Kolb is also looking like a dud, so there’s another swing and a miss.

  29. the comment on the word ironic “why do you use that word, i do not think it means what you think it means” is a quote from the movie the princess bride. It also made me laugh, good job!

  30. Arizona paid to steep of a price in the Kolb trade. Might as well trade Fitzgerald and get 3 1st rounders for him and rebuild. That should have been the trade this off-season, but it wasn’t so now we need to build the O-line with the rest of the Defense. AZ’s problem is they can’t get going or can’t finish teams which equals to a total lack of discipline. They had one good year and that made things even worse. Everyone in the organization is at fault here, starting from the owner to the last player on the practice squad.

    The only reason the Cardinals keep selling out the stadium is because the people love football and mostly the other team fans show up. Pretty soon it will revert to the old days when they played at ASU stadium when nobody really showed up.

  31. You can blame the GM for the trade when it should have just been a player for player trade (DRC isn’t doing much better in PA). Built the team through the draft and stop trading the picks. Make good selections point blank. Time for the scouting department to get a full shakedown starting with the GM.

    Just look at the Cardinals draft history and see how many players are still with the team starting with the 2007 draft:
    Round 1: Levi Brown- w/team (don’t know why)
    Round 2: Alan Branch- Gone
    Round 3: Buster Davis- Gone
    Round 5: Steve Breaston- Gone
    Round 7: Ben Patrick- Gone

    2008: Round 1: D. Rodgers-Cromartie- Gone
    Round 2: Calais Campbell- w/team
    Round 3: Early Doucet- w/team
    Round 4: Kenny Iwebema- Gone
    Round 5: Timothy Hightower- Gone
    Round 6: Christopher Harrington- Gone
    Round 7: Brandon Keith- w/team (don’t know why)

    2009: Players

    Round 1: Chris Wells – w/team
    Round 2: Cody Brown – Gone
    Round 3: Rashad Johnson – w/team
    Round 5: Herman Johnson- Gone
    Round 6: Will Davis- Gone
    Round 4: Gregory Toler-Out for the Season
    Round 7: LaRod Stephens-Howling – w/team
    Round 7: Trevor Canfield- Gone

    2010: Players

    Round 1: Dan Williams – w/team
    Round 2: Daryl Washington – w/team
    Round 3: Andre Roberts – w/team
    Round 4: O’Brien Schofield- w/team
    Round 5: John Skelton – w/team
    Round 6: Jorrick Calvin – Gone
    Round 7: Jim Dray – w/team

    2010 is still to early to see an outcome, I do like rd 2 – rd 5 picks, but Dan Williams needs to pick it up, especially after showing up to camp out of shape and overweight.

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