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Week Five Monday 10-pack

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The passing of Al Davis dominated the weekend, and rightfully so.  But the games were good enough to seize back some of the attention — especially since the team that Davis owned has remained at the forefront of the postseason conversation by scoring a huge road win in Houston.

So what are the most interesting story lines from a Sunday that seemed a lot bigger than usual, even with six teams sitting this one out?

Here are 10 of them, as usual.

1.  Andy Reid deserves the blame in Philly.

The Eagles are 1-4.  So who gets the blame?

“There’s nobody to blame but me,” coach Andy Reid said after a 31-24 loss to the Bills.  “I take full responsibility for it.  It’s my football team.”

He’s right.  Reid has been running the entire football operation since 1999.  This year, Reid decided to go “all in,” taking a string of big risks — none of which have panned out yet.

Reid decided to fire defensive coordinator Sean McDermott, explaining that McDermott just couldn’t fill the long shadow of the late Jim Johnson.  Reid decided to replace McDermott with Juan Castillo, who had been the offensive line coach for 13 years.

And so in that one string of decisions, Reid put both the defense and the offensive line at risk.  Coincidentally (or not), those are the biggest weak spots on the team.

Meanwhile, Reid signed off on a string of free-agent signings, which raised the expectations higher and higher, even though guys like running back Ronnie Brown and receiver Steve Smith didn’t really address the team’s real needs.  Team president Joe Banner did Reid no favors, telling PFT Live that the line between success and failure this year is winning the Super Bowl.

So when going “all in” and losing, what happens?  Do you get a new pile of chips to gamble next year?  Or is there accountability for making a bad bet?

That’s what remains to be seen, especially if the Eagles fail not only to achieve that which Banner described as success, but also if the team fails to even get to the playoffs.

Though it’s believed in some league circles that the relationship between Reid and Banner and owner Jeffrey Lurie has enough strength to overcome complete failure in 2010, the fans and the media will demand that someone pay for the blunder with his job.

2.  Eagles still have a decent chance.

With a 1-4 record, the window is closing on the Eagles.  But there’s a silver lining, sort of.

In any other division, the Eagles would need to go at least 9-2 over the final 11 games to have any hope of qualifying for the postseason — a very tall order given that they have upcoming games against the Cowboys (twice), Redskins (twice), Giants, Patriots, and Jets.

But with the Giants looking sluggish and the Cowboys stuck at 2-2 and the Redskins still believed to be overachieving, the Eagles can win the division, perhaps without winning 10 total games.  If they can win the rest of their NFC East games, and if none of the other three teams pile up wins outside the division, the Eagles could climb back into it.

It’s far from a sure thing.  But it’s a far easier proposition than if the Eagles were in the NFC North or the NFC South.  Or even the NFC West.

3.  At the bye, Kolb decision not looking too good for the Cards.

The Cardinals started the season with a closer-than-expected win over the Panthers.  But a closer-than-expected win is always better than a loss.

Since Week One, the Cards have lost four straight times, culminating in a 34-10 blowout in receiver Larry Fitzgerald’s homecoming to Minnesota.

Before Sunday’s debacle, during which the Vikings rolled to a 28-0 lead in the first quarter, Cardinals fans were grousing about the decision to trade for quarterback Kevin Kolb.  With Kolb coughing up a trio of turnovers, Cardinals fans have to be wondering whether the team’s brain trust squeezed out a brain fart.

Kolb’s passer rating of 77.2 puts him at the back of the pack, and the 1-4 record puts them in contention for Andrew Luck — which may not be a bad thing, assuming that the coaching staff and front office can survive a disastrous final record.

The only good thing about the Kolb trade so far is the fact that his presence helped persuade receiver Larry Fitzgerald to sign a new deal.  But as the team enters its annual football-free fortnight (otherwise known as the bye week), Fitzgerald has to be wondering whether he made the right decision, and the Cardinals have to be wondering the same thing.

4.  Hue Jackson takes control in Oakland.

Yes, meticulous planning by the late Al Davis will allow his family to continue to own the Raiders.  But with son Mark Davis not expected to try to run the football operations, someone will have to take charge.

In the short term, that’s coach Hue Jackson.  During the offseason, Jackson was negotiating contracts, even before serving as head coach for a single game.  Sunday’s stirring victory necessarily gives Jackson even more juice.

If he can parlay that into a playoff appearance, who knows?  Jackson could end up with a Belichick-style arrangement, in which a personnel executive who answers to Jackson helps set the table.

Much remains to be decided in that regard.  But Jackson will only cement his status within the organization if he can continue to push a team that hasn’t been to the postseason since 2002 toward a return to glory in the season that ultimately was the last one for Al Davis.

5.  Horrible call in Carolina.

The close-but-no-cigar Carolina Panthers need to find a way to transform close losses into close wins.  They almost pulled it off on Sunday, but it would have happened with the asterisk of a very bad call.

Down by 10 midway through the third quarter, the Panthers had the ball in their own end.  Facing third down and five from the Carolina 36, quarterback Cam Newton missed receiver Legedu Naanee.

But a roughing the passer penalty extended the drive, which ultimately resulted in a touchdown that tightened the game to 23-20.  The only problem?  Saints defensive lineman Turk McBride did nothing that remotely would constitute roughing the passer.

Newton wasn’t hit with a helmet.  Newton wasn’t hit in the helmet.  Newton wasn’t hit in the neck.  Newton wasn’t hit low.  Newton wasn’t slammed to the ground.  Newton wasn’t driven to the ground.  Newton wasn’t hit by a defender who took more than one step before making contact.

In a season featuring plenty of missed roughing calls, Newton and the Panthers got a drive-extending gift.  Short of making rougher the passer subject to replay review, there’s really no way to fix this one.

Maybe the best answer is to make roughing the passer subject to replay review.

6.  It’s definitely Tebow time in Denver.

It’s time.

Yes, it’s time.

It’s Timmy Tebow time.

Coach John Fox has been stubborn, but once he inserted Tebow into Sunday’s eventual loss to the Chargers, Fox tied his own hands.  Though Tebow’s numbers weren’t spectacular (he completed four of 10 passes for 79 yards and a touchdown, and he ran six times for 38 yards and a touchdown), he gave the team a spark.  He gave the HDTV viewers a thrill.  And he gave the fans vindication for their insistence that Tebow deserves a chance.

The fans will now want that chance to continue.  They’ll want to see what Tebow can do with a chance to actually, you know, prepare to play.  They’ll expect to see him on the field after the bye week, when the Broncos go to Miami.

Fox will surely give it to Tebow.  The time has come to find out what Tebow can do.  Sink or swim, succeed or fail.  The Broncos need to know what they have — or don’t have — so that they can plan for a future with — or without — Tebow at quarterback.

7.  Running it up has its risks.

Setting aside for now the question of whether NFL teams should or shouldn’t run up the score, a decision to keep the foot on the gas during the final laps of a race that already has been won definitely has its risks.

For the 49ers, who were leading the Bucs by 38 points with fewer than five minutes to play, the risk resulted in No. 1 receiver Josh Morgan breaking an ankle.

As a result, the Niners will now have to get by without Morgan for the foreseeable future.  They’ll hope for Michael Crabtree to step up and/or Braylon Edwards to step back onto the field.  They’ll hope for that because No. 1 wideouts aren’t exactly hanging around.

What’s that?  Randy Moss?  Terrell Owens?  Unlikely, and likely unwise.

Almost as unwise as keeping Josh Morgan in a 41-3 game.

8.  Bengals should trade Carson, but not yet.

In rookie Andy Dalton, the Cincinnati Bengals have found their quarterback of the future.  And their quarterback of the present.

So what should they do about their quarterback of the past?

Some fans are suggesting that the Bengals should now be willing to trade Carson Palmer, and that they should do so before next week’s trade deadline.  But they won’t get nearly what they could by cobbling a trade together now.

Instead, they should wait until the offseason, at which time teams will be making their plans at the position for 2012.  Anyone who trades for Palmer at that point would have the benefit of a full offseason and preseason to get him ready to go, and the Bengals would get one or more picks from the same draft for which they’d get picks now.

Patience, then, is the key.  Come March, someone who needs a quarterback but who isn’t in position to draft Andrew Luck or trade for him will consider making a play for Palmer.

9.  Is Del Rio close to being done?

The Jaguars opened the season with a win over the Titans.  Since then, the Jags have lost four in a row.  With the Steelers, Ravens, and Texans coming up, the Jaguars could be 1-7 at the bye.

And 1-7 could be good enough to get coach Jack Del Rio fired.

Or could it?  Del Rio entered the season without starting quarterback David Garrard, cutting him and in turn saving owner Wayne Weaver a whopping $8 million.  If Del Rio actually wanted to keep Garrard but ultimately agreed to go along with a move that the front office and/or ownership wanted to make, Del Rio possibly could have gotten himself at least until the end of the 2011 season.

Heck, Del Rio may have even gotten himself a full offseason to develop quarterback Blaine Gabbert.

10.  The “Suck for Luck” update.

After five weeks, the Colts have the inside track on the first pick in the draft (and thus the rights to Stanford quarterback Andrew Luck), thanks to a Chiefs team that has beaten two winless teams in consecutive weeks.

But the Colts continue to come close to winning, and there’s a sense they eventually will have success.

The Dolphins and Rams, on the other hand, don’t have quite the same prospects.  Miami specifically seems poised to slide into the worst — and thus best — position, given the loss of quarterback Chad Henne for the balance of the season and upcoming games against the Jets (twice), Bills (twice), Pats, Cowboys, Redskins, Eagles, Giants, and Raiders.

With only three winless teams remaining, the one-win teams soon will be in play, with the Jaguars, Cardinals, Vikings, and Panthers possible candidates.  (In theory, even the Eagles could be in the mix.)

Regardless of how it all plays out, the teams that lose hope will find hope in the quest for a clear shot at Andrew Luck — or at the bushel of draft picks that he could potentially generate.

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71 Responses to “Week Five Monday 10-pack”
  1. goldrush36 says: Oct 10, 2011 2:23 AM

    “Or even the NFC WEST”

    Can honestly say I wasn’t expecting to see a quote like that for at least 3-5 more years as the teams rebuild lol.

  2. trbowman says: Oct 10, 2011 2:44 AM

    Even if they pick first overall, the Cards aren’t taking Luck. Guarantee. They’ve invested in Kolb for a reason.

  3. realfann says: Oct 10, 2011 2:48 AM

    Josh Morgan isn’t the Niner #1 receiver.

  4. mdd913 says: Oct 10, 2011 2:54 AM

    Good to see somebody else was paying attention to that Saints-Panthers game. That call was atrocious. The league should be ashamed of its officiating right now.

  5. atwatercrushesokoye says: Oct 10, 2011 3:04 AM

    Nobody gets less from more than Andy Reid.

    In Denver I’m torn, I’d really like for Tebow to succeed because I’m tired of watching the Broncos lose, but at the same time it might be best for the franchise to lose the rest of the way so they can finally get some “Luck” and build around a true cornerstone!

  6. keeponhating says: Oct 10, 2011 3:30 AM

    wouldn’t bother me if Hue Jackson wound with GM/coach type role. He seems to very passionate about the Raiders. sometimes hes repetitive and corny but he has heart and his players love playing for him.

    Rip Al Davis

  7. jimmysimpson55 says: Oct 10, 2011 3:34 AM

    Tebow threw a touchdown, but “he can’t throw.”

    Tebow almost won the game, but “he isn’t good enough to be the third string QB.”

    Tebow sparked the entire stadium and his team to step up performance, but “he can’t be a leader because he isn’t any good.”

  8. patriotsdefense says: Oct 10, 2011 3:49 AM

    FIRST

    “Reid and Banner and owner Jeffrey Lurie has enough strength to overcome complete failure in 2010, the fans”

    The 2010 Eagles are in the books. You mean 2011.

    SECOND

    “Maybe the best answer is to make roughing the passer subject to replay review.”

    No, we don’t want to start reviewing flags. flags are human judgement calls. Stop force feeding the public this idea. it sucked 2 weeks ago and it still sucks now. Pandora’s BOX.

  9. balewsquare says: Oct 10, 2011 4:19 AM

    So Tebow WILL start the game that honors the Gators!

  10. ks718 says: Oct 10, 2011 4:34 AM

    On the roughing the Cam call I thought the defender was flagged for launching. A better bad call to talk about would be the time out before the half.

  11. letsgobuffaloin2011 says: Oct 10, 2011 4:40 AM

    Two entries on Philly but not one on the team that beat them, the best story in the Nfl, the 4-1 Bills? Still not respect…….

  12. downhillrider says: Oct 10, 2011 4:56 AM

    “The passing of Al Davis dominated the weekend, and rightfully so. But the games were good enough to seize back some of the attention ”

    so the guy who basically made the NFL what it is today and probably the most important figure in the NFL doesnt deserve to overshadow 1 weekend of football?

  13. discosucs2005 says: Oct 10, 2011 5:41 AM

    I still don’t think you can be too hard on Harbaugh for having Morgan in the game. There are only 4 WRs on the 49ers active roster, and one of them is returning every kick and punt and it was a three WR set. I’m not aware of any team in the NFL, regardless of the lead, benching every single player with almost 5 minutes left in the game.

    Also, I don’t recall (and correct me if I’m wrong) any harsh words for the Patriots from this site when they were running up the score in ’07. Or for the Packers running it way up on Denver just the other week.

    The logic applied in this writing is hind-sighted, inconsistent, and self-rightoues.

  14. bobnelsonjr says: Oct 10, 2011 5:53 AM

    Stop with all the Eagles “Gee we are surprised the Eagles lost” stories. The Eagles don’t matter.

    You have to have at least an average QB to win in the NFL.

    How about some stories on good teams instead of the same boring East Coast crap daily?

    There are some very good teams in the Midwest and California.

  15. weneedlinemen42 says: Oct 10, 2011 5:54 AM

    Aaron Rodgers performance, as well as that of Tom Brady and Drew Brees should put this “Suck for Luck” media story in to sharp perspective. Most of the best players in the league weren’t lauded as potential franchise saviours whilst still in college. Conversely, a huge number of sure-fire franchise players picked at number one have flamed out spectacularly

    Journalists need to remember that the next Gayle Sayers turned out to be not quite the next Darren Sproles. Somehow I doubt there are any professional coaches out there who trust the college game enough to tank an entire season for a shot at a QB. A position which has by far the biggest transition to make from college to the pros.

  16. vahawker says: Oct 10, 2011 6:15 AM

    Or Luck decides he doesn’t want to play for whoever has the number 1 pick and returns to school and we have another season of “Suck for Luck”

  17. tatum064 says: Oct 10, 2011 6:16 AM

    4. “who knows? Jackson could end up with a Belichick-style arrangement, in which a personnel executive who answers to Jackson helps set the table.”

    Much remains to be decided in that regard.”
    ================================
    Vittorio Tafur, the Raiders’ beat writer confirmed that Amy Trask and Mark Davis will have a list of candidates for a possible GM or Director of Personnel or a plan of some kind moving forward on Monday, and that Jackson is expected to have a little more leeway on personnel decisions. This is the best possible news in a very rough stretch for all Raider fans from 2003-2011.

  18. jharmon64 says: Oct 10, 2011 6:29 AM

    Carson Palmer’s value is diminishing, waiting til the off season will not improve that.

  19. seneca1ss says: Oct 10, 2011 6:51 AM

    Buccaneers could’ve used a Free Agent like:
    CB Johnathan Joseph (he’s ballin’ in Texas)

    Cheap GLAZER Family

  20. threemac23 says: Oct 10, 2011 6:55 AM

    It’s the whole Eagle teams fault…

  21. qdog112 says: Oct 10, 2011 7:31 AM

    Meanwhile Brady Quinn has got to be saying, what the ….?

  22. steelerdynasty2010 says: Oct 10, 2011 7:32 AM

    Kolb’s passer rating of 77.2 puts him at the back of the pack, and the 1-4 record puts them in contention for Oliver Luck — which may not be a bad thing, assuming that the coaching staff and front office can survive a disastrous final record.

    ummm, i think signing a 51 year old man to play qb would probably work out pretty poorly….not to mention the contract buyout they’d have to pay wvu….Andrew Luck maybe?

  23. chefklm says: Oct 10, 2011 7:41 AM

    Mr. Cowher, Joe Banner on line one….

    Despite my knowing that getting rid of Bradley & not shoring up the OL better would come back to bite my Eagles in the ass. This is unf***ing believable.

    I can’t defend Reid anymore…

  24. citnetter says: Oct 10, 2011 7:46 AM

    I love all this “Suck for Luck” talk, but how about including the very important fact that Luck isn’t a senior and can very well choose to stay in college, you know, like he did this past year?

  25. lottsmissingfinger says: Oct 10, 2011 7:54 AM

    The Niners only had 4 active receivers. Were they supposed to play backup DBs at WR or did you even bother to check the roster?

  26. howley1 says: Oct 10, 2011 8:02 AM

    The NFCE is a two horse race. Cowboys and Redskins.

  27. philwauke says: Oct 10, 2011 8:08 AM

    They should fine the ref the same amount the player would be for that terrible roughing the passer call.

  28. 8drinkminimum says: Oct 10, 2011 8:09 AM

    I’m sure Oliver Luck would sign today if someone came calling. Of course he would be sent off to the hospital before the first quarter of action ended.

  29. pappysarcasm says: Oct 10, 2011 8:14 AM

    Maybe the best answer is to make roughing the passer subject to replay review.

    No, it’s not the answer. Reply in general distracts from th game. Pay the refs full time and let them make the call on the field! ….and stop trying to be an influence to the league on crap like this. Nobody likes your idea’s! Because they are bad ideas!

  30. tv426 says: Oct 10, 2011 8:16 AM

    Man Philly gets the attention. First they were the team to beat, now that reality has set in, that is all anyone talks about – the fact that they are not the team to beat (and never were).
    Didn’t Washington prove year after year after year that adding big names does nothing? Yet the media falls for any team that attempts this year after year after year.
    Absurd!
    And did anyone really think that Vick suddenly became a great QB? Shame on you if you did.

  31. rabidbillsfan says: Oct 10, 2011 8:24 AM

    Wow, two topics aboit the Eagles, but nothin about the 4-1 Bills being #2 in points scored, #1 in turnover margin# #1 in takeaways, and #4 in rushing. Can somebody please say that this team is better than the teams they beat, and not just the other team has imploded!

  32. jagerbmb says: Oct 10, 2011 8:34 AM

    Andy Reid is flabbergasted

  33. toonsterwu says: Oct 10, 2011 8:45 AM

    If I’m the Jets, I’m calling up teams that might be willing to shop a RB (Cleveland and Hillis perhaps) to see if I can reestablish the run. Shonn Greene looks like a very good number 2 back, but a borderline lead guy. I think they’ve still got a chance to do something, but the one thing about all defenses is this – if asked to be on the field too long, they all can be beat. The Jets of the last few years kept control of the ball better (prior to this week), keeping that defense fresher.

  34. kleppnasty says: Oct 10, 2011 8:52 AM

    Not sure what roster you are looking at, but Josh Morgan is not the 49ers #1 WR. He’s their #3, bumped back up to the #2 spot when Edwards got hurt. You might be referring to the fact that he has the best numbers for a WR on the team, that is b/c Crabtree gets double teamed, so, like a good #2 WR, Morgan has taken advantage of the situation. It is a tough injury for the 49ers, but with more 2 TE formations than 2 WR formations and with Edwards coming back in the coming weeks, it won’t ruin the season.

  35. bertilfox says: Oct 10, 2011 8:54 AM

    …and for those Runners Up in the Suck For Luck sweepstakes, Landry Jones says “hi”!

  36. weneedlinemen42 says: Oct 10, 2011 9:00 AM

    “rabidbillsfan says:
    Oct 10, 2011 8:24 AM
    Wow, two topics aboit the Eagles, but nothin about the 4-1 Bills being #2 in points scored, #1 in turnover margin# #1 in takeaways, and #4 in rushing. Can somebody please say that this team is better than the teams they beat, and not just the other team has imploded!”

    Those new uniforms are really nice as well. Bills fans deserve some good times. Those that have stuck with the team through thick and thin,and there has been lots and lots of thin.

    Looking at the roster coming into the season I thought the Bills were in trouble. I thought Gailey had proven himself an excellent college coach. Well, I was so very wrong. Chan Gailey is doing a great job for the Bills. Ryan Fitzpatrick is looking pretty good and the defense is exceeding all expectations. Fred Jackson might have been the most under-rated running back in the league. That’s not going to last much longer.

    They may not make a deep play-off run but they are fun to watch and I do love those new uni’s. Look good, feel good. Feel good, play good.

  37. j0esixpack says: Oct 10, 2011 9:02 AM

    Overlooked by many… For all the bold and bombastic blathering of their coach, players and fans, the Jets are a Week One giftwrapped choke from being a 1-4 team.

    That’s what happens when a coach tells players they’re “soon to be champs” year after year. In reality they’re very lucky to have 2 wins.

  38. GG Eden says: Oct 10, 2011 9:05 AM

    John Skelton > Kevin Kolb. Cardinals went out of their way during the off-season to throw away a lot of money and time only to arrive back at John Skelton.

    Matter of time.

  39. phatnate says: Oct 10, 2011 9:11 AM

    The Phileadlephia Eagles were doomed to suck this year, I was not sure why everyone was jumping on this bandwagon. You can’t have all your skill players weighing just 200lbs they will get hurt, and surely won’t last the season. The NFL is for big men. Michael Vick weighs 215lbs, LeSean McCoy weighs 208lbs and DeSean Jackson weighs 175lbs. That’s your problem.

  40. weneedlinemen42 says: Oct 10, 2011 9:15 AM

    I’ve really got to see more film of Andrew Luck, but he better eat lightning and crap thunder or all the coverage he receives is going to seem overblown.

    Maybe I’ve been missing something but he looks really good college QB. Are there two Andrew Lucks, because the one I’ve seen seems to be human. It’s hard to square with the hype, that suggests he must be at least part terminator.

  41. skins23 says: Oct 10, 2011 9:24 AM

    “with the Skins still believed to be overachieving…”

    Yeah, I guess you could consider it overachieving if you predicted them to be the 31st ranked team going into the season.

    Keep picking against us though… can’t wait to see you predict the Eagles beat us by 2 TDs this weekend.

  42. skippynj says: Oct 10, 2011 9:29 AM

    That protect-Cam-at-all-costs call was worse than the one they flagged Harper for against Cutler. Saints showed what they’re made of by winning their second of three in a row on the road. On to the Tampa *ay #ucking #ueers next week. I’ll say it again-Thank God Drew Brees is my QB.

  43. axespray says: Oct 10, 2011 9:42 AM

    Guess what QB I am:
    “Oh Man, I’ve been in the league for six years, I can’t handle adversity, I can’t throw a tight spiral, I can’t read the blitz, coach has me on the hooked on phonics playbook cause I can’t run an NFL offense, thank god for Patrice Willis and These Runningbacks for carrying me.”

  44. goawayeverybody says: Oct 10, 2011 9:46 AM

    The Michael Vick situation could not have possibly worked out better for me. He’s great for my fantasy football team but he’s a terrible quarterback and an even worse human being. I win!!!

  45. johnnyjagfan says: Oct 10, 2011 10:03 AM

    If Maclin & Jackson hold on to those 4th quarter passes on the potential game-winning drives, the Eagles are 3-2 and we’re talking a different ballgame.

  46. brewdogg says: Oct 10, 2011 10:34 AM

    bobnelsonjr says:
    Oct 10, 2011 5:53 AM
    Stop with all the Eagles “Gee we are surprised the Eagles lost” stories. The Eagles don’t matter.

    You have to have at least an average QB to win in the NFL.

    ———————————————-

    Buffalo beats Philadelphia.
    Oakland beats Houston.
    Seattle beats the Giants.
    San Francisco trounces the Bucs.

    Yup, definitely need that top QB and good recievers to win in today’s NFL……

  47. therhino44 says: Oct 10, 2011 10:42 AM

    I don’t think you can run up the score nowadays judging by all the comeback games this year. Morgan is not a number 1 receiver. Someone had to play. We replaced the RB and the QB so the niners weren’t out to run up the score. They were still playing because there was time left on the clock. What happened to Morgan was just an unfortunate event.

  48. firethewalrus says: Oct 10, 2011 10:45 AM

    #OccupyNovacareComplex

    Fire The Walrus

  49. richm2256 says: Oct 10, 2011 11:07 AM

    During the offseason, Jackson was negotiating contracts, even before serving as head coach for a single game. Sunday’s stirring victory necessarily gives Jackson even more juice.

    If he can parlay that into a playoff appearance, who knows? Jackson could end up with a Belichick-style arrangement, in which a personnel executive who answers to Jackson helps set the table.

    Much remains to be decided in that regard. But Jackson will only cement his status within the organization if he can continue to push a team that hasn’t been to the postseason since 2002 toward a return to glory in the season that ultimately was the last one for Al Davis.

    —————————————————————

    You’re handing the keys to an entire organization over to a guy who’s 3-2 in his first season as a Head Coach???

    Seriously???

    Sorta like turning your vintage Ferrari over to your 16 year old son because he backed it down the driveway without killing anyone.

  50. The Phantom Stranger says: Oct 10, 2011 11:12 AM

    With only three winless teams remaining, the one-win teams soon will be in play, with the Jaguars, Cardinals, Vikings, and Panthers possible candidates. (In theory, even the Eagles could be in the mix.)
    _______________

    What do you mean, “in theory, even the Eagles could be in the mix”? They’re a one-win team, aren’t they? Have they looked so much better than the Vikings or Panthers in achieving that record? If you think the Vikings and Panthers are in the same conversation with the Jaguars and Cardinals, then the Eagles should definitely be in there too.

  51. londonfletcher says: Oct 10, 2011 11:15 AM

    “and the Redskins still believed to be overachieving”

    Man, you wouldn’t give a crippled crab a crutch.

  52. prmpft says: Oct 10, 2011 11:16 AM

    how many “oops, sorry…” calls do the Saints have to take from the league this year – CALL THE DAMN GAME – it’s not rocket science!

  53. richm2256 says: Oct 10, 2011 11:16 AM

    johnnyjagfan says:
    Oct 10, 2011 10:03 AM
    If Maclin & Jackson hold on to those 4th quarter passes on the potential game-winning drives, the Eagles are 3-2 and we’re talking a different ballgame.

    —————————————————————
    Saddest fan reaction in the world”

    “if”

    “if Chad Henne didn’t suck and played like Tom Brady, and hadn’t been injured, the Dolphins would …… blah blah blah”

    “if Tony Romo were consistent, the Cowboys could be …. blah blah blah”

  54. barneyrumble says: Oct 10, 2011 11:16 AM

    The Colts seem to be poised for some success? Really? They have two chances to win a game, both times they play Jacksonville. The Colts don’t beat the Bengals this week, and it gets tough to see a win anywhere other than Jacksonville after they blew the chance to beat the Chiefs.

    Bill Polian will finally give us the perfect season we wanted, only this time it is in line with the Detroit Lions of a few years ago at oh fer 16

  55. CKL says: Oct 10, 2011 11:26 AM

    For all the guff Romo takes (and some is deserved, no doubt), Schaub is underrated when it comes to throwing inexplicable WTF INTS at the worst possible time. Yesterday, vs Balt awhile back, etc.
    I think the Cards would be better off with Bartel @ QB (if they still have him, not sure). Kid looked darned good in preseason and while stats alone in preseason especially don’t mean much, he looked like he knew how to play the game.

  56. capslockkey says: Oct 10, 2011 11:53 AM

    Now that Kevin Kolb has proven everything that a lot of people were saying, that he’s not very good, can we quit hearing about him finally? The way this site propped this guy up for the last 10 months was ridiculous.

  57. tigrrrr says: Oct 10, 2011 11:59 AM

    Reid doesnt hold all the blame, vick is the deep rooted problem in filthy. He carries bad karma from all the atrocious tortures he committed on live bleeding animals, and was never charged for.

    He cant read defenses, which makes him hold the ball too long. He is injury prone and he will never play a whole season.
    Contributing to reids, and vicks responsibility for sucking up the place, is the sloppy lazy playing the rest of the team shows. They all think they are some kind of dream team… oh yeah they said that!

    I guess they are a lose, lose, lose team! Their record supports that!

  58. stairwayto7 says: Oct 10, 2011 12:06 PM

    Kolb not good descision for Az? Then who? Derek Anderson??? DRC is nop where to be seen in Philly, Cards lost to skins due to a Chancy Stuxky fumble and to Giants on a bogus call!

  59. jolink653 says: Oct 10, 2011 12:24 PM

    it’s still early to start the kolb is a bust talk in arizona…that being said why does everyone seem so surprised? what has kevin kolb shown everyone prior to the trade that made everyone so sure he was worth trading all those picks and drc for? i thought the cardinals gave up way too much

  60. westclaims says: Oct 10, 2011 12:27 PM

    I suppose if the Cards had signed Kolb as a hired gun or stop gap, then perhaps it would be a bad decision. It’s a long term thing. People are so quick to write him off. He had no real off season with the team, changed systems totally, and is only 5 games in. If Kolb performs poorly next year, then maybe it was a bad decision. But PFT is always quick to jump on any Cards troubles, and make them out to be more than they are. And to put the word fart in the article, seems like the writer’s signature to me. I think they will be better after their bye, and Kolb will improve throughout the season, as he gets more comfortable in the system. That’s really just common sense, but on this site, there’s a shortage of that.

  61. worstposterever says: Oct 10, 2011 12:41 PM

    Andy Reid is a disgusting fatbody.

    The picture in this post sickens me.

  62. worstposterever says: Oct 10, 2011 12:44 PM

    How are the Bengals supposed to trade Carson Palmer?

    Which team in the league wants a 32 yearold QB with $40 million left on his contract? He’s an albatross… The Bengals are just SAYING they won’t trade him because no team will take on that contract. They can’t give the guy away. He needs to show up.

  63. simpleghost says: Oct 10, 2011 3:10 PM

    The roughing the passer penalty against the Panthers was bad, but how about their idiot head coach calling a timeout as the first half was ending, allowing the saints to kick a field goal? The Panthers went on to lose by 3, and that final drive by Cam could have been for a winning FG and not a tying one.

  64. simpleghost says: Oct 10, 2011 3:11 PM

    ^^against the saints I meant

  65. realfann says: Oct 10, 2011 3:53 PM

    In summary:

    1. Head coach should be fired
    2. 1-4 team need miracle to get to the playoffs
    3. Player trade isn’t working out (yet)
    4. Head coach will do well if his team does well
    5. Referee made a mistake
    6. Failing QB should be benched
    7. Player got hurt
    8. Player shouldn’t be traded (yet)
    9. See #1
    10. Bad record teams will deliberately lose to draft first

    Ten best stories of the weekend?

    No.

  66. The Prophet says: Oct 10, 2011 4:23 PM

    The Panthers in the “suck for Luck” sweepstakes? Are you crazy? Cam Newton is putting together one of the most spectacular rookie seasons in NFL history and you think they would consider Luck? Unless there’s some crystal ball somewhere that shows Luck is guaranteed 5 Super Bowl wins, the Panthers would be insane to go for any other QB other than Cam. Silly statement PFT …

  67. tigrrrr says: Oct 10, 2011 6:36 PM

    @The Prophet

    Should they end up with a shot at luck, think beyond the QB position and how much could it be worth to the Panthers to sell him to another team?

  68. httrincolorado says: Oct 10, 2011 11:07 PM

    @phatnate-please learn how to spell…it is Philadelphia. @ londonfletcher- thank you for being such a phenomenally consistent player/leader for our team-you rock, & I hope that you will get an SB ring while a ‘skin…..I think the idea of “Suck for Luck” is ludicrous. NFL coaches understand that hype is sometimes just that…’anyone want to go back and purposefully tank a season for Ryan Leaf?! That’s what I thought:-). And, yes, please…keep downplaying the Redskins successes. They will surprise everyone @ the end of the season. And we won a SuperBowl with a qb who bears some resemblance to Sexy Rexy(Mark Rypien? Just sayin’…;))

  69. akasaintsbaby says: Oct 11, 2011 1:04 AM

    Newton wasn’t hit with a helmet. Newton wasn’t hit in the helmet. Newton wasn’t hit in the neck. Newton wasn’t hit low. Newton wasn’t slammed to the ground. Newton wasn’t driven to the ground. Newton wasn’t hit by a defender who took more than one step before making contact.

    ————————————

    AMEN, he was barely even knocked down. Can you not tackle the qb anymore in this league?

  70. mrfrostyj says: Oct 11, 2011 3:26 PM

    Why all this “Suck4 Luck” Talk when Jamarcus Russell is still available. I heard all the scouts say he was the most pro ready QB to be drafted in YEARS and the scouts are ALWAYS right.

  71. freedomispopular says: Oct 12, 2011 12:00 AM

    Didn’t Tebow start the last 3 games last season? So don’t we already know what he can do.

    Get this guy a QB coach who believes in him and who can clear up those awful passing mechanics. If he can become even a semi-decent passer at best, he’ll be a monster.

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