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Ochocinco not making much progress

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Chad Ochocinco started the year as the most expensive part-time receiver in the league. Five games hasn’t changed that.

Mike Reiss of ESPNBoston.com notes that Ochocinco was on the field for 32 of 81 snaps against the Jets.

Ochocinco caught two passes in the game, which ties his season high.  He doesn’t have a game over 45 yards. Ocho’s best stat remains his Twitter follower count.

You can slice this any way you want, but the Patriots expected more. Ochocinco will earn $6 million this season.  Deion Branch is earning $2.2 million to start, and he’s been more than twice as productive.

Reiss think it’s too early to call the Ocho signing a bust. Tom Curran of CSNNE.com feels differently.

“Chad Ochocinco has to do an exceptional amount to even get himself back to zero because he’s so far in the hole,” Curran said.

The Patriots offense is so loaded it almost doesn’t matter. Ocho is really the team’s fifth receiver behind the two wideouts and the two young tight ends.  Ochoinco has almost reached the point that he’s a non-story.

This all reminds me of Randy Moss’ journey to on-field irrelevance last year.

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  1. ecnasty says: Oct 11, 2011 7:50 PM

    The best receiver from the Bengals, cant even crack the Pats starting line-up. That speaks volumes.

  2. edmazeing1 says: Oct 11, 2011 7:53 PM

    Trade him to oakland for a 5th rounder since Hue is like his father

  3. kisstherings says: Oct 11, 2011 7:54 PM

    This Ocho story is nothing like Moss.

    Moss was run out of NE because he went through the media regarding his contract and became a distraction, and didn’t go 100% on every play. That being said, he understood the Pats offense like no reciever that has ever been with the team, per Belichick and Brady (possible exception: 2011 Welker).

    Ocho goes all out every time he is on the field and has been a model hard working player, he just doesn’t seem to have the mental capacity to grasp the Pats offense. He thrived in Cinci on athletic ability and improvisation.

  4. radtrigger says: Oct 11, 2011 7:54 PM

    I feel like they took a shot with Ocho believing there was a chance he could make an impact in the game. At the worst he is a backup WR.

    Pats play vast majority of offense in 2 TE sets. That means Welker and Branch are the 2 WR. The other WR on the team has not gotten much playtime.

    Ocho may look expensive but it’s not like the Pats have any cap trouble. It may be money not well spent but it doesn’t hurt the team. If they wanted to sign other players, they still could have even with Ocho.

  5. wonderboy18 says: Oct 11, 2011 7:54 PM

    Ocho was at one time one of the best he’s just washed up now.

  6. captainwisdom8888 says: Oct 11, 2011 7:59 PM

    Progression?

    No. He’s making strides towards free agency.

  7. cytofed says: Oct 11, 2011 8:01 PM

    As much as I hate to say, ochocinco might be better off in Oakland.But then again Oakland is loaded at receivers.

  8. richm2256 says: Oct 11, 2011 8:01 PM

    They had nothing to lose by taking a shot, but he’s all done. Lining up wrong, not running correct routes. No doubt if he was open and where he was supposed to be, Brady would love to throw it to him.

    If.

    Total bust.

  9. backindasaddle says: Oct 11, 2011 8:02 PM

    Ocho came from a completely different offensive system with different terminology and a completely different level of execution. I think he has really struggled because of that. He’s been extremely slow to pick up the system and the level execution is just something way beyond all of his experience. If he keeps at it he’ll gradually improve, but there is no doubt it’s taking him far longer than anyone would have anticipated. If he doesn’t start becoming more productive, I’d just as soon see some of Taylor Price who was very impressive in the preseason.

  10. jobotjones says: Oct 11, 2011 8:02 PM

    All talk, no heart. Always has been, always will be.

  11. rajbais says: Oct 11, 2011 8:04 PM

    @ecnasty Ocho was not the best WR in Cincy because he had fewer receptions than T.O., plus in the “Carson has Been Rescued Series” (Games 14-16) he was so seldom used.

    He was not going to have a good year in 2010 anyways because he did two reality shows during that same offseason and NFL players that do ‘Dancing with the Stars’ underperform during the upcoming season. Look at Jason Taylor and Hines Ward.

    Chad now really needs to change his name to Chad Uh-Oh Spaghettios!!!

  12. tallguyme says: Oct 11, 2011 8:08 PM

    Ocho made a fantastic sideline catch during the last game. I’m glad he’s part of the team.

  13. thereisalwaysnextyear says: Oct 11, 2011 8:08 PM

    This is a good example of how sometimes the biggest talkers are the least intgelligent. See “Bullies”. So sorry to see 85 fade into the sunset. Karma

  14. bigperm33 says: Oct 11, 2011 8:10 PM

    Ocho has definitely not been what has been expected, but he is still needed. Last year, the Patriots did not have a third receiver, no one. At least in Ocho, they have a 3rd receiver that the other team has to at least think about. I wish they would get more out of him, but they still need a viable 3d option at receiver some of the time.

  15. TheWizard says: Oct 11, 2011 8:12 PM

    Based on what I’ve seen, or not seen, I don’t understand any of this.

    They would get more out of Reche Caldwell.

  16. drgreenstreak says: Oct 11, 2011 8:12 PM

    Check out Chad Johnson’s Wonderlic score….

  17. bdert says: Oct 11, 2011 8:15 PM

    Had grown to accustomed to a low standard in Cincy…Welcome to the bigs Kid…

  18. otis52gsh says: Oct 11, 2011 8:17 PM

    I don’t really know why anybody thought he had anything left.

  19. nothimagain says: Oct 11, 2011 8:17 PM

    Ochocinco will figure things out about the same time Pats fans quit giving him standing ovations for every 4 yard catch.

  20. Patskrieg dot com says: Oct 11, 2011 8:31 PM

    “This all reminds me of Randy Moss’ journey to on-field irrelevance last year.”

    Did I sleep through the part where Ocho broke the single season touchdown record with Brady? Or the 3 seasons in a row of 1000+ yards? Or Ocho burning Darrell Revis for a touchdown 2 weeks before being run out of town?

    Poor analogy. But at least you spelled his name right.

  21. upyoursnfu says: Oct 11, 2011 8:36 PM

    Maybe Jets should have signed him instead of that bum Burress

  22. emoney826 says: Oct 11, 2011 8:39 PM

    OchoCinco is and always has been overrated. One good overachieving season by a young bengals team created this idiot. He’s never proven a thing in the NFL other than being the first moron to change his name to a jersey number.

  23. tuckyous says: Oct 11, 2011 8:40 PM

    Ocho Stinko.

  24. towniesman says: Oct 11, 2011 8:41 PM

    He’s not crying about it Curran an Reiss are

  25. j0esixpack says: Oct 11, 2011 8:47 PM

    Aside from what he’s getting paid, the lack of production from a team’s 5th best receiving option (at best) is not a concern.

    I mean is anyone really complaining about the Patriots receiving game?

  26. wakexxl says: Oct 11, 2011 8:50 PM

    OCHO is not starter, not a game changer or a go to guy. The Pats signed him as a backup, dont know what team would not like that situation.

  27. rc33 says: Oct 11, 2011 8:51 PM

    On almost every other team he’s seeing more completion attempts. NE’s passing game is ridiculous and there are 4 other established options. The two young TE’s are tremendous and Brady clearly has a ton of faith in throwing to them. Same with Deion Branch, who took no time at all reaclimating himself with Brady after the trade last year. And then there’s Welker, who catches more balls than anyone in the league.
    Look, he’s been a disappointment for certain but not a disaster. Their passing offense is not hurting without him and I’d give it more time.

    A really tough receiving corp to crack is a large part of the problem.

  28. getweird4u says: Oct 11, 2011 8:53 PM

    ecnasty says:Oct 11, 2011 7:50 PM

    The best receiver from the Bengals, cant even crack the Pats starting line-up. That speaks volumes.
    0——————————————-0
    85 was not the bengals best reciever that would be T.O. It helps to actually know what your talking about before you make dumb statements!
    Chad has not been that good for years now (at least 2) frankly i was shocked that a “genius” like the hoody would give up even a 5th for a guy who EVERYONE knew was getting cut anyway?

  29. rexismybff says: Oct 11, 2011 8:54 PM

    The real story here is that the Pats were unable to figure out how diminished his skills were before they signed him this season. Any video of his games in recent years against the Ravens or Steelers would show that he has lost his speed, and is not strong enough or a good enough route runner to get open any more.

    Boston Personnel Dept = #Fail.

  30. bennyd720 says: Oct 11, 2011 8:54 PM

    maybe he could rejuvenate his career if he changed his last name back to Johnson…

  31. goforthanddie says: Oct 11, 2011 8:55 PM

    And still more productive than Haynesworthless.

  32. jcioffi1485 says: Oct 11, 2011 8:57 PM

    I have to applaud the comments here. The Patriots offense is the equivalent of advanced Physics. Chad was working in a Cincy environment where he was given a box of crayons and asked politely not to color outside the lines.

  33. rushmatic says: Oct 11, 2011 9:02 PM

    Belichick has been talking about how great he’s come along, despite not having a training camp.

    The media has acted like this is a normal season. It’s not. Only a few teams are NOT behind. The Packers, Lions, Raiders, and Ravens, for instance, have remained relatively unchanged since last year. They’re playing good football.

    These players have every reason to be a bit behind.

  34. eigglesnosuperbowls says: Oct 11, 2011 9:05 PM

    He is too busy being in awe !

  35. tombradyallday says: Oct 11, 2011 9:06 PM

    ha it funny these writers have no idea what there talkin about. chad will be fine. he will mostly be needed when the real season starts after thanksgiving. when teams start getting ready for playoffs and start trying to take away what the pats do best. hes working hard and staying focused

  36. savannahrose44 says: Oct 11, 2011 9:31 PM

    Ochocino is on a team with more weapons than I would care to count. I would not say it is any gauge of his talent level that he is not seeing as many targets as everyone thinks he should be seeing for what he’s being paid. Chad will have his day, but he’s going to wait his turn like everyone else on that team. Brady has a lot of choices on the field when he goes to throw, and that usually cuts into everyone’s production. Green Bay has a similar “problem” with Aaron Rodgers and all his toys.

  37. jvibottomline says: Oct 11, 2011 9:34 PM

    I didn’t even know this guy was ever good, wait, he wasn’t

  38. steeltown56 says: Oct 11, 2011 9:35 PM

    He has just lost speed. He has never been a hard worker, or a guy who can play the slot. Hope he saves the millions he make this year, because this is it.

  39. thefappingcows says: Oct 11, 2011 9:39 PM

    Ocho needs to stop wasting his time making appearances in basketball wives and focus on having more than 2-3 passes caught per game… Or have Bill finally realize that he’s just not smart enough for the Pat’s O

  40. mikebrownistheworstownerinprosports says: Oct 11, 2011 9:53 PM

    @emoney826

    I had to log in just to put you in your place. Chad may be washed up (he has been since 2008 pretty much) but I guess you don’t remember 2002-07′ very well.

    He led the AFC in receiving 4 years in a row (over a guy named Marvin Harrison) and made 6 pro bowls. You pretty much just showed that you don’t know anything about the NFL.

  41. expatpatfan says: Oct 11, 2011 10:06 PM

    He has just lost speed. He has never been a hard worker, or a guy who can play the slot. Hope he saves the millions he make this year, because this is it.
    =================================
    This is a guy who slept in the practice facility, so I don’t think it’s fair to say he’s never been a hard worker.

    No one is super happy with where Chad is right now, myself included, but his best-case scenario (that’s realistic) was a second-half of the season contributor. You get glimpses of what he can still do when you watch his body control in his sideline catch last week. If the Pats can get that 4-6 times a game in Nov/Dec, I’m happy.

  42. enders9 says: Oct 11, 2011 10:07 PM

    emoney826 says: Oct 11, 2011 8:39 PM

    OchoCinco is and always has been overrated. One good overachieving season by a young bengals team created this idiot. He’s never proven a thing in the NFL other than being the first moron to change his name to a jersey number.

    ——————————————————–

    Anyone who tries to say Chad only had one good season is a complete moron.

    This guy that had only one good year (according to you) led the AFC in receiving 4 years in a row. You know who else was in the AFC at the same time? Marvin Harrison. Somehow, a guy who had only one good year, was able to have 4 years better than Marvin Harrison, who is considered one of the best of his time. Andre Johnson was also around for 3 of those 4 years.

    From 2002 to 2007 he was an absolute stud

  43. 1nyj says: Oct 11, 2011 10:08 PM

    So he’s a bust. Like the Patriots offense needs him anyway. Can he play defense?

  44. tiffpats4eva says: Oct 11, 2011 10:22 PM

    rexismybff says:
    Oct 11, 2011 8:54 PM
    The real story here is that the Pats were unable to figure out how diminished his skills were before they signed him this season. Any video of his games in recent years against the Ravens or Steelers would show that he has lost his speed, and is not strong enough or a good enough route runner to get open any more.

    Boston Personnel Dept = #Fail.
    **********************

    Vernon Gholston and Mark Sanchez.

    Then they cut Woodhead

    BTW, determinator sucks too.

  45. bishopbengals says: Oct 11, 2011 10:26 PM

    Most of you talking about Chad have no idea about his past. Sure, he is a bit past his prime in the present day, but when he was in his prime he led the AFC in receiving 4 years in a row. No one has ever done that other than him.

  46. Rhode Island Patriots Fan says: Oct 11, 2011 10:27 PM

    Let’s talk football IQ. In 2007, Randy Moss missed most of training camp and didn’t play in any preseason games. Yet, in Week 1 of the regular season, he came in “cold” and caught nine passes for 181 yards, including that 51-yard TD reception leaving those three Jets defenders in the wake of his “after burners.” Judging by his performance in that game and the rest of the 2007 season, one gets the impression that Moss “ate” the Patriots offensive playbook for breakfast. Six weeks into the 2011 regular season, it appears Chad Ochocinco is still trying to digest that playbook. In 2007, Brady couldn’t wait to target Moss. Can the same be said of Ochocinco in 2011? It stands to reason that if Chad’s production—along with his knowledge of the Patriots offense—doesn’t pick up, he’ll eventually go the way of Joey Galloway.

  47. realfann says: Oct 11, 2011 10:56 PM

    And of course the season is over so there’s no chance the Pats would need Ocho down the road more than they need him today.

  48. sophiethegreatdane says: Oct 11, 2011 10:59 PM

    Rushmatic says:

    “The media has acted like this is a normal season. It’s not. Only a few teams are NOT behind. The Packers, Lions, Raiders, and Ravens, for instance, have remained relatively unchanged since last year. They’re playing good football.”

    ————————

    Fail. Familiarize yourself with the Ravens roster before making such statements.

  49. hakk03 says: Oct 11, 2011 11:03 PM

    He’s droppable in fantasy.

  50. theroc5156 says: Oct 11, 2011 11:13 PM

    Pats fans blaming Ocho when it’s their own scouting department and personnel department who screwed up signing him. The Bengals were going to cut him anyway.

    As for those saying he was overrated and that the Patriots offense was sooo much better than the Patriots you couldn’t be more wrong. While he is certainly not who he was back in the day, from 2002-2009 he was either a top 3 or top 5 receiver in the NFL. 4 of those years the Bengals had a better offense than the Patriots as well.

  51. dennis2488 says: Oct 11, 2011 11:15 PM

    6th receiver, you forgot woodhead. fact is, brand new receivers dont come in and fit well with brady and belichick. in 07 the offense was quite different.

  52. bengalsmofo says: Oct 11, 2011 11:33 PM

    Meaningless comparison, but I love these numbers anyway.
    AJ Green, 402 yds.
    Simpson 252.
    Gresham 208.
    Ochocinco 136.
    Caldwell 110.
    3-2 without him vs 4-12 with him. Y’all (NE, OAK, Calgary Roughriders, Chip Ganassi Target Racing, Avis Rent-a-car, whomever) can keep him. We don’t want him or need him.

  53. nite2al says: Oct 11, 2011 11:36 PM

    Sometimes players just don’t “fit” into particular systems. Ocho may do quite well on another team such as Green Bay where routes are run very differently — where not so much happens just beyond the line of scrimmage. Even Branch was a lost soul in Seattle.

  54. beelicker says: Oct 11, 2011 11:49 PM

    steeltown56 says: >>> He has never been a hard worker <<<

    Clearly you've never watched him practice as I have in multiple training camps throughout his career. Chad was more like an ADHD child who actually had to be monitored not to overwork himself by constantly running too many EXTRA reps in practices before the last couple of years. When the O coaches would clamp down on him he'd still turn around & slip in & start running reps with the DBs in their drills.

    This lack of serious focus is also the reason he had so many problems with false starting from WR even up to the 10th year in Bratkowski's offense (which was actually TOO complicated in many ways, i.e. making halftime/in-game adjustments & bringing new personnel up to speed. ref: Jerome Simpson needing 3 years to break out – albeit behind Ocho who never came off the field – & TO taking forever to learn where he was supposed to be in it) .

    Maybe if he got the right meds he'd have an easier time with the necessaries for learning & executing a new offense & not jumping offsides so much?

  55. fister30 says: Oct 11, 2011 11:56 PM

    to expound on enders9 comment, chad was a stud when he was treating football like his profession, rather than a side gig. he was staying late at the facility watching film, analyzing his opponents, working with Carson constantly to develop chemistry. now its all about everything else in his life, which has been that way for going on 4 years now…

  56. The Phantom Stranger says: Oct 12, 2011 12:00 AM

    Big deal. Until the last game, Bernard Berrian had been on the field for almost every play and he had only two catches on the season.

  57. polegojim says: Oct 12, 2011 12:27 AM

    The Patriots are as cerebrally skilled as they are physically skilled. They’re heady and smart from the front office to the coaches, to the players.

    Chad is physically talented, but thus far hasn’t shown himself to have the ‘head’ to back it up. He hasn’t fit the mold.

    Personally, I haven’t given up on him. What have you heard from him in all this? Nothing.
    I think he’s shown some remarkable humility and can learn to be a ‘smarter’ football player.

  58. serifyn says: Oct 12, 2011 5:09 AM

    OchoCinco is the fifth option, isnt this a good thing?

    look, ochocinco has been a disappointed for sure, but fans dont understand that not everyone can get the ball. Welker, Hernandez and Gronkowski are all faster than him and more explosive, what ochocinco gives you is a very good 5th target who will be covered by a safety or a teams worst corner because so much attention is being drawn by the aforementioned players.

    To think chad would come in here and take the job away from Welker or branch is silly, Welker and branch have better chemistry with Tom Brady than any other players through his career except for maybe Randy Moss.

    Chad is insurance for branch and the other receivers, if branch or Welker were to go down, chad would be able to fill in better. i dont know what kind of production the fans were expecting out of chad, but everyone should just be happy the offense is as productive as it is and that we don’t need chad in order to score 30 per game.

  59. joetoronto says: Oct 12, 2011 5:47 AM

    Only one Pats fan here admitted the truth, the rest are in denial.

    There are NO excuses for “covering” the TE while lining up in the NFL. This has never been allowed, ever, and it has nothing to do with a “new playbook”.

    The guy is an idiot and the Pats made a mistake taking him on, end of story.

  60. toledoohoh says: Oct 12, 2011 6:33 AM

    I don’t know about that. Ocho has been targeted in crucial situations the last couple of weeks. There is absolutely no need to rush his integration.

  61. toledoohoh says: Oct 12, 2011 6:35 AM

    Rhode Island Patriots Fan,

    Randy ran two routes.

  62. gadgetdawg says: Oct 12, 2011 6:47 AM

    Does this mean Chad is coming to PFTNation to kick someones butt?

  63. brownsclown says: Oct 12, 2011 6:55 AM

    Ochostinko! Put a fork in him. He’s done!

  64. enders9 says: Oct 12, 2011 7:41 AM

    bengalsmofo says: Oct 11, 2011 11:33 PM

    Meaningless comparison, but I love these numbers anyway.
    AJ Green, 402 yds.
    Simpson 252.
    Gresham 208.
    Ochocinco 136.
    Caldwell 110.
    3-2 without him vs 4-12 with him. Y’all (NE, OAK, Calgary Roughriders, Chip Ganassi Target Racing, Avis Rent-a-car, whomever) can keep him. We don’t want him or need him.

    —————————————————-

    You could have just stopped at meaningless comparison. If Chad were still a Bengal he would be the leading receiver on the team.

  65. bigdaddybullwhip says: Oct 12, 2011 8:20 AM

    I would bet Chad will become a distraction very soon. He is going to blame his bad performance on, “Chad being Chad”

  66. vincentbojackson says: Oct 12, 2011 8:41 AM

    Ocho doesn’t get many opportunities because the Pats are a dink and dunk offense and that’s not Ocho’s game. Everyone knowns 95% of Brady’s passes are under 10 yards to a back, tight end, or the slot receiver.

  67. billsmafiapeezy says: Oct 12, 2011 8:43 AM

    Child Please!

  68. raiderlyfe510 says: Oct 12, 2011 8:45 AM

    Da ahh he’s a programatic nonfit(Brad Childress voice)

  69. ytsejamer1 says: Oct 12, 2011 8:53 AM

    Good comments by those above… one thing that really stands out is the fact that BB has said on many occasions, how smart Randy Moss was and how much football intelligence the guy had. He may have been a bit too insecure, but the guy knew how to play the game.

    As for Ocho…he’s lucky he’s on a team that is winning without him. That allows the pressure to be off a bit and he can concentrate on getting better. I’m surprised it has taken this long but listen…Taylor Price who has been with the team two years can’t get on the field when healthy either. Price seems to have more speed than Ocho and perhaps more physical tools at this point…and he’s not getting a sniff at the WR position.

    I’m hoping 85 keeps working at it and becomes another functional part of the offense…not the key or the focal point, but simply another productive part. He’s a tall guy and can be dangerous in the redzone…along with those TEs, who would the opposing team cover down there with their best or tallest DB?

  70. selldannysell says: Oct 12, 2011 8:57 AM

    This clown could have been playing in Washington for two draft picks. Thank you, Mike Brown, for saving us from ourselves!

  71. homelanddefense says: Oct 12, 2011 8:59 AM

    Ocho gives effort and says the right things. Us Pat’s fans only wish Moss had done the same thing throughout his career here.

  72. jackmik says: Oct 12, 2011 9:04 AM

    The Bears will take him….5th on the Pats, 1st for the Bears.

  73. go9ers says: Oct 12, 2011 9:23 AM

    O-Choke-stinko is done. Put a fork in him.

  74. billsfan1 says: Oct 12, 2011 9:25 AM

    He couldn’t even crack the bills star studded wr lineup….Steve Johnson, Donald Jones, naaman Roosevelt, David nelson and ruvell Martin.

  75. Land Snark says: Oct 12, 2011 9:26 AM

    It’s so hilarious to read the analysis (emphasis on the first four letters) of so many armchair scouts on here.

    Let’s send you to a pro team and see how quickly you pick up the scheme and plays. I’m sure you’d beat out Welker and Branch in no time flat.

  76. pigskinswag says: Oct 12, 2011 10:31 AM

    Maybe Tedy Bruschi should say something about this to help motivate Chad…wait….

  77. gimmeabruschi says: Oct 12, 2011 5:35 PM

    BB is giving his buddy over $200,000 a catch at this rate.

    If Welker were getting that much for each catch at this rate he would be paid about $29,000,000 this year.

    This is so far one of BB’s worst FA signings among quite a few bad ones.

  78. pcoz99 says: Oct 12, 2011 8:30 PM

    Just bring back Moss. Brady has ALL DAY to throw, and Moss is exponentially better than Branch & Ocho. He’d open the TE’s and WW up all over the field. It’s not that NE has better balance now, they just have the best O line in the history of the game and anyone could get open in the offense. Moss would be the deep threat, which they don’t have now(TE’s aren’t deep threats nor is Slater). Also WW is now going to see teams top corner if not get double covered. Moss can help, where Branch & Ocho have never seen double coverage in their careers.

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