Roy Williams: Ford Field was never that loud when I was a Lion

AP

Bears receiver Roy Williams experienced something on Monday night that he experienced a lot in his first five NFL seasons: He lost a game at Ford Field.

But Williams, who was the Lions’ first-round draft pick in 2004 and was traded to the Cowboys during the 2008 season, said something is different in Detroit these days. Williams remarked after the game that in returning to Detroit, he was surprised to hear how loud the fans were.

I’ve never heard it like this,” Williams said after the Lions beat the Bears on Monday. “We were 6-2 one year but it still never sounded like this.”

The difference between this year’s Lions and the 2007 team Williams references that started 6-2 is that this year’s Lions actually look like they’re capable of keeping it going for the rest of the season. The 2007 Lions lost seven of their last eight to finish 7-9. Lions fans are more excited now than they were midway through the 2007 season because they correctly perceived in 2007 that the Lions weren’t as good as their record suggested.

In other words, it’s a lot easier to get excited about a 2011 Lions team whose top receiver is Calvin Johnson than it was to get excited about a 2007 Lions team whose top receiver was Roy Williams.

100 responses to “Roy Williams: Ford Field was never that loud when I was a Lion

  1. Stupid MDS, always hating on people for no reason.

    Roy Williams compliments the crowd and you still find ways to go out of your way to criticize him. You think it’s Roy Williams fault that Detroit sucked? really?

  2. Thats all you have to say? “It was never this loud when I was here”. How about start by apolagizing to Forte for missing about half a dozen blocks in the game that could’ve busted him loose for big gains. Or how about apolagize to Cutler for failing to even attempt a block on their Saftey when he blitz and face planted Cutler. Or failing to get ANY seperation between you and the CB to get open. There is alot this loser should’ve said, but didnt.

  3. When will defenses stop trying to convert those 4th and 1s on the lions? 3 weeks in a row it has literally almost cost the other team the game. the Vikings for sure, dallas would’ve been tied, and the bears do it too? ignorance.

  4. Maybe you didn’t hear the fans loudly during your Lions tenure because you were zoning out in one of your lotus position TD celebrations, you know, the ones you would rock late in the fourth quarter bringing the Lions to within 4 TD’s of tying the game.

  5. Oh joy, now we get a whole week of 49ers fans trash talking the Lions.

    Look, you’re having a nice season and all…but Alex Smith is your QB. And he has no one to throw it to. Frank Gore will inevitably break something else on his body during the game. You can’t win a game with 0 points.

  6. nineroutsider says: Oct 11, 2011 2:48 PM

    Williams will, however, recognize the silence that will overcome Ford Field sometime during the 3rd quarter this upcoming Sunday…
    ————————————
    Because Suh just knocked Alex Smith out cold with such force it took the crowd’s breath away?

  7. Because there was nothing to cheer about when you were there Roy………the team NOR you.

    I said before the season started to watch out for the Lions and that they were ready to become participants in the playoffs. While I am still not ready to say they are Super Bowl bound, I would not rule out the possibility.

    All the injuries, weird team performances, etc. It’s clear the lack of offseason preparation has affected some teams more than others. Right now Jim Schwartz has this team’s confidence becoming stronger and believing anything is possible…..even the Super Bowl.

    I adopted the Lions as my 2nd favorite team last year while their was still room on the bandwagon. Mark my words, this is a dangerous team, and its about time.
    The coaches and front office have done an excellent job

  8. I did notice that nearly every single jersey there was the new kind, the ones that have been around for a year and a half. Long-suffering? Hmmm.

    Oh, and you’re a joke, Roy. Just pipe down and pray your current team forgets that you’re still on the team, lest you be sent packing.

  9. Well, it won’t be if your team sucks and your fans wear paper bags over their heads and threaten (although unsuccessfully) a walkout on the team!!!

  10. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure it out here. When’s the last time Detroit played a prime time game at home (or at all for that matter)? Of course it was going to be loud.

    Doesn’t matter what stadium it is, crowds ramp it up for MNF because A) they know they are on TV and B) they have all day to get “lubed up”.

  11. I get the feeling that the way Martin Mayhew convinced the Ford Family to keep him was by saying and doing everything anti-Matt Millen!!!

    That didn’t sound very difficult!!!

  12. For the record … Roy Williams was not the Lions leading reciever in 2007, it was Shaun McDonald (who lead in both the number of receptions and total receiving yards).

    In 2006, Roy had 1300 yards, but that’s the only season he played like a leader.

    But … it was Roy Williams who named Calvin Johnson “Megatron.”

  13. nineroutsider says: Oct 11, 2011 2:48 PM

    Williams will, however, recognize the silence that will overcome Ford Field sometime during the 3rd quarter this upcoming Sunday…

    ————————————————

    lol love how it took a Michigan man to make SF relevant again

    hate to break it to you though, Alex Smith is still…. Alex Smith

  14. He’s never heard it that loud because most people only cheer when the #1 receiver actually makes a catch. They get loud when that receiver takes it to the house and scores a TD. It gets crazy loud when the team actually wins the game.

    So, of course, Roy Williams has never heard it that loud before. He’s hasnt done any of those things very much in college or the pros.

  15. As a diehard Minnesota Vikings fan I am happy for and proud of the Detroit Lions and Buffalo Bills. We (Minnesota Vikings fans) have suffered through great ineptitude from the inception of our team to this day. But the Detroit and Buffalo fans have an awful lot to be happy about and it’s nice to see. Even though I am a diehard Minnesota Vikings fan (translated means “a glutton for punishment”) I am living through the Detroit and Buffalo fans a bit and enjoying they’re success-congratulations!!

  16. Roy may suck now but he was actually a good receiver with the Lions.

    So lets try and keep some perspective here with the “Williams sucked in Detroit” rants. That’s just not true.

  17. oren120 says: Oct 11, 2011 2:53 PM

    Oh joy, now we get a whole week of 49ers fans trash talking the Lions.

    Look, you’re having a nice season and all…but Alex Smith is your QB. And he has no one to throw it to. Frank Gore will inevitably break something else on his body during the game. You can’t win a game with 0 points.
    —————————————

    Easy now, I’m not saying the 9ers will win but the Lions defense hasn’t shut anyone out yet – including the pathetic Chiefs. In fact, their giving up 18 points a game so far and the offenses they faced are far from stellar:

    Team Pass Rank Rush Rank
    Tampa 20th 16th
    KC 30th 7th
    Vikings 31th 3rd
    Dallas 3rd 26th
    Chicago 23rd 21st

  18. killerstiller says:
    Oct 11, 2011 2:42 PM
    Maybe they were just glad to see him in another uniform!

    ————-
    More precisely Lions fans are glad to seem him not in Lions uniforms 🙂

  19. Enough with this fair weather fan bull. We had the worst team that ever played football in 08. Are we supposed to cheer when your team isnt even competitive? Oh and i’m not talking competitive in a division race or for a playoff spot i’m talking you know your team has lost the game in the first 5 minutes. Back in 08 I remember going to make a sandwich during a commercial break, it being a tied game coming back and be losing by three scores. We had a terrible team that wasn’t just bad on the field it stunk in every way possible. If you give us a team that is at least going to try to win games and not just show up for a paycheck and will show up and cheer for them.

  20. To be honest, I haven’t seen many Roy Williams games. I do remember seeing a Detroit game several years ago, and thinking…”Wow! This dude is freaking good!” What happened? Did he just get bad? Weird.

  21. suhnami says:
    Oct 11, 2011 3:02 PM
    nineroutsider says: Oct 11, 2011 2:48 PM

    Williams will, however, recognize the silence that will overcome Ford Field sometime during the 3rd quarter this upcoming Sunday…

    ————————————————

    lol love how it took a Michigan man to make SF relevant again

    hate to break it to you though, Alex Smith is still…. Alex Smith
    ————–
    Hate to break it to you but Smith has a higher passer rating than Matthew “made of glass” Stafford.

    Will he survive a hit from Willis?
    Love the trash talk 🙂

  22. Thats because you ……………..sucked when you were a Lion! You’re me, me, me attitude sucked when you were a Lion! You didn’t do anything positive, when you were a Lion!

  23. suhnami says:
    Oct 11, 2011 3:02 PM
    nineroutsider says: Oct 11, 2011 2:48 PM

    Williams will, however, recognize the silence that will overcome Ford Field sometime during the 3rd quarter this upcoming Sunday…

    ————————————————

    lol love how it took a Michigan man to make SF relevant again

    hate to break it to you though, Alex Smith is still…. Alex Smith
    —————-
    BTW, I also love the fact that Lions are relevant again due to a guy from Bill Walsh’s coaching tree (served for 11 years under Fisher)

  24. nineroutsider says:
    Oct 11, 2011 2:48 PM
    Williams will, however, recognize the silence that will overcome Ford Field sometime during the 3rd quarter this upcoming Sunday…
    ========================

    Gotta love niner fanboy. All struttin’ around with chest out and whatnot. So cute. Ya just tousle his hair and give him a noogie.

  25. roy was decent for a while. better than fatass mike williams and fragile chas rogers.

    but he had an ego, he stopped doing anything over the middle, nothing was ever his fault…

    them mayhew got a lot of picks for him. and roy hasnt done jack since.

  26. This must be Dallas fans railing on the guy, because I don’t remember him being that bad in Detroit. Hell Lions fans should love him. Didn’t they con JJ out of like 4 or 5 drafts picks for the guy in a trade, including a 1st rounder?

  27. MDS you’re killing me here… if you had any journalistic prowess, you would have mentioned what the Lions got in return from the Cowboys in that deal… Now it’s killin me!

    Fellow PFT bretheren… can you help a brotha out on this?

  28. @MARK8240 yes no matter what you get behind your team,you can be upset and vent but you still support them no matter what.I HATE bandwagon fans,for any team,we have them too(well not anymore).You’re either a fan or you’re not,and i see a lot more lions fans here than before.not all of you and much respect to the ones that DID support through the lean years,i am cheering for you guys too,you guys deserve it,bandwagon fans i have no time for at all.

  29. bobhk says:

    Hate to break it to you but Smith has a higher passer rating than Matthew “made of glass” Stafford.

    Will he survive a hit from Willis?
    Love the trash talk
    ——————————————–

    Seriously? Well, that is true, so I guess I won’t dispute that. But since that is a pointless stat, I refuse to accept that it means anything.

    Stafford: 287YDS/game, 2.6TDs/game
    Smith: 193YDS/game, 1.4TDs/game

  30. These Lions fans are all fired up…acting like they have been on top for years…I love it!

    Who would have thought the game of the week: 49ers at Lions?

    It is going to be one hell of a game, just make sure the china doll is wrapped in extra bubble wrap. This isn’t the Bears coming to town this week…

  31. Go do a first down celebration, its because you gave us nothing to cheer about, your stupid 1st down signal is an embarrassment. Its so nice to see you ineffective/dropping balls in someone else’s uniform. On second thought go stalk a girl, send her an engagement ring and see how that goes…..oh that’s right

    Also I would like to thank Jerry Jones for the kings ransom you gave up for him, Brandon pettigrew is three times the football player when he was in high school than Roy is now!!!!

  32. Before 2008 (the year he was traded to Dallas), Roy W actually performed well:

    2007 Detroit Lions 12 64 838 13.1 5

    2006 Detroit Lions 16 82 1,310 16.0 7

    2005 Detroit Lions 13 45 687 15.3 8

    2004 Detroit Lions 14 54 817 15.1 8

    It’s not entirely clear what caused him to turn into Limas Sweed, except a lack of motivation brought on by a huge signing bonus and chunk of guaranteed money doled out by Jerry Jones.

  33. @303bengalguy: The broadcasters last night said it included a 1st-round pick, which the Lions used to pick up Pettigrew. 😀

  34. Bobbi:
    Schwartz is from the belicheck tree, yes he worked for Fisher for so long, but it was the Hoosiers who brought him into the McLaughlin

  35. Bobbi:
    Schwartz is from the belicheck tree, yes he worked for Fisher for so long, but it was the Hoodie who brought him into the NFL

  36. asublimeday says: Oct 11, 2011 2:49 PM

    No, they’re fair-weather fans. Plain and simple. Soldier field is always rocking; lions fans only yell when they feel like it.
    ———————-

    lol are you kidding? You obviously haven’t been to Detroit, because that’s all they talk about all year round.

  37. Sure they were loud Roy, it was the sound of LAUGHTER
    the lions fans can’t believe you’re still in the NFL…

  38. oren120 says:
    Oct 11, 2011 4:00 PM
    bobhk says:

    Hate to break it to you but Smith has a higher passer rating than Matthew “made of glass” Stafford.

    Will he survive a hit from Willis?
    Love the trash talk
    ——————————————–

    Seriously? Well, that is true, so I guess I won’t dispute that. But since that is a pointless stat, I refuse to accept that it means anything.

    Stafford: 287YDS/game, 2.6TDs/game
    Smith: 193YDS/game, 1.4TDs/game
    ———————
    How nice to cherry pick stats. All that means is that the lions choose to throw more (and more in the red zone). Perhaps if you have a back like Gore you may be more balanced.
    I can play the same game:
    Smith: 65.9% Comp percentage, 1 INT
    Stafford: 63.6% Comp percentage, 4 INT.

    Actually, I have nothing against the lions. I am glad that they are doing well.
    But, it’s hilarious to see all the woofing that is being done for a team that has had decades of futility.
    We’ll see on Sunday how this plays out 🙂

  39. lionsfanatic84 says:
    Oct 11, 2011 4:29 PM
    Bobbi:
    Schwartz is from the belicheck tree, yes he worked for Fisher for so long, but it was the Hoodie who brought him into the NFL
    ———————-
    You must have started watching Lions/NFL this year. Schwartz was brought in by Belichick (during his Browns failed years) but was groomed for almost a decade by Fisher. Let knowledgeable people talk.

  40. You may be calling yourself lionsfanatic but I think you are a closet Pats fan. Schwartz was an entry level coach with Belichick. That is not what belonging to a coaching tree is about. That way Mike Shanahan (who belongs to Walsh’s coaching tree) would be under Dan Reeves coaching tree.

  41. Bobhk :
    You just repeated what I said, so quit patting yourself on the back and get off your highhorse. BTW I’ve followed the NFL my whole life so please, don’t act like you know me

  42. Oct 11, 2011 4:00 PM
    bobhk says:

    How nice to cherry pick stats. All that means is that the lions choose to throw more (and more in the red zone). Perhaps if you have a back like Gore you may be more balanced.
    I can play the same game:
    Smith: 65.9% Comp percentage, 1 INT
    Stafford: 63.6% Comp percentage, 4 INT.

    Actually, I have nothing against the lions. I am glad that they are doing well.
    But, it’s hilarious to see all the woofing that is being done for a team that has had decades of futility.
    We’ll see on Sunday how this plays out
    ——————————————-

    You’re so right. I wish we had a back like Frank Gore. I mean, he does have 466 all purpose yards this year…

    Oh wait, Jahvid Best has 576 all purpose yards (and only 47 fewer rushing yards) behind one of the worst offensive lines in the league.

    Anything else you’d like to discuss?

  43. oren120 says:
    Oct 11, 2011 5:04 PM
    Oct 11, 2011 4:00 PM
    bobhk says:

    How nice to cherry pick stats. All that means is that the lions choose to throw more (and more in the red zone). Perhaps if you have a back like Gore you may be more balanced.
    I can play the same game:
    Smith: 65.9% Comp percentage, 1 INT
    Stafford: 63.6% Comp percentage, 4 INT.

    Actually, I have nothing against the lions. I am glad that they are doing well.
    But, it’s hilarious to see all the woofing that is being done for a team that has had decades of futility.
    We’ll see on Sunday how this plays out
    ——————————————-

    You’re so right. I wish we had a back like Frank Gore. I mean, he does have 466 all purpose yards this year…

    Oh wait, Jahvid Best has 576 all purpose yards (and only 47 fewer rushing yards) behind one of the worst offensive lines in the league.

    Anything else you’d like to discuss?
    ————————
    Sure. Are you really that clueless. Anyone in their right mind would pick Jahvid Best over Gore?
    Also, you may want read more carefully in the future. I said that if the Lions had a running back like Gore, perhaps they would be more balanced (i.e. rush more if you did not get it). With that in mind Gore has 400 yards rushing, Best has 353. This is despite the fact that Gore has been playing with a bum ankle.
    SF has 6 rushing TDs to Detroits 3. Quite obviously 49ers have more balance. Naturally Smith has fewer passing TDs than Stafford.
    If you don’t get that I’m done trying to explain.

  44. lionsfanatic84 says:
    Oct 11, 2011 4:56 PM
    Bobhk :
    You just repeated what I said, so quit patting yourself on the back and get off your highhorse. BTW I’ve followed the NFL my whole life so please, don’t act like you know me
    —————–
    You must be understanding impaired. I said that Schwartz was groomed for almost 10 years by Fisher. Hence he’s not from the Belichick coaching tree. It’s not who brought you in, it’s who groomed you. You may only be 5 years old.

  45. bobhk says:
    Oct 11, 2011 5:25 PM

    Sure. Are you really that clueless. Anyone in their right mind would pick Jahvid Best over Gore?
    Also, you may want read more carefully in the future. I said that if the Lions had a running back like Gore, perhaps they would be more balanced (i.e. rush more if you did not get it). With that in mind Gore has 400 yards rushing, Best has 353. This is despite the fact that Gore has been playing with a bum ankle.
    SF has 6 rushing TDs to Detroits 3. Quite obviously 49ers have more balance. Naturally Smith has fewer passing TDs than Stafford.
    If you don’t get that I’m done trying to explain.
    ——————————————-

    I would take Best over Gore any day. Gore is at the end of his career. He’s got MAYBE one year left before his body just gives out on him. The team has been riding him for years, and there’s only so much that one man can take.

    And as for this “balance” you keep harping on to make yourself feel better, who cares how they’re scored? Ask the Patriots or the Colts (when they have Manning) if they care. I promise you, they don’t give a damn.

    The bottom line is, we’ll see you here Sunday afternoon whining about some lame reason on why the Lions didn’t deserve to win, and your boys are still the better team.

    I’m under no disillusion that the Lions are going 16-0, but this isn’t gonna be the week that streak ends. Not in our house.

  46. dukemarc says:

    Easy now, I’m not saying the 9ers will win but the Lions defense hasn’t shut anyone out yet – including the pathetic Chiefs. In fact, their giving up 18 points a game so far and the offenses they faced are far from stellar:

    Team Pass Rank Rush Rank
    Tampa 20th 16th
    KC 30th 7th
    Vikings 31th 3rd
    Dallas 3rd 26th
    Chicago 23rd 21st

    ___________________________________

    LMAO. Only THREE teams have allowed fewer points than the Lions in all of the NFL and two of them have played one less game. But yeah, you’re right, they haven’t stopped anyone. I will say it. The 9ers stand less of a chance than Chicago did. Harbaugh may be a Michigan man but it won’t be a pretty homecoming.

  47. nineroutsider says:
    Oct 11, 2011 2:48 PM
    Williams will, however, recognize the silence that will overcome Ford Field sometime during the 3rd quarter this upcoming Sunday…
    ============================
    Niner fan, either they pull off the eventual upset or Alex Smith will have his yearly implosion or will get knocked out of the game (for holding on to the ball too long).

    I’m guessing on the latter – he hasn’t faced a pass rush like this all season.

  48. Hey bobhk…. how balanced was Green Bay last year? Balance = nothing. Last I checked, the points awarded for a passing TD were equal to that of a rushing TD. Everyone on the planet knows that Calvin is going to get looks yet he leads the league in TD’s. You can keep trying to justify your case that the 9ers somehow measure up to the Lions but it really is futile. The only thing y’all have going for you is that you are in the weakest division in all of football. I think LSU would probably win the NFC West.

  49. tatum064 says: Oct 11, 2011 5:52 PM

    nineroutsider says:
    Oct 11, 2011 2:48 PM
    Williams will, however, recognize the silence that will overcome Ford Field sometime during the 3rd quarter this upcoming Sunday…
    ============================
    Niner fan, either they pull off the eventual upset or Alex Smith will have his yearly implosion or will get knocked out of the game (for holding on to the ball too long).

    I’m guessing on the latter – he hasn’t faced a pass rush like this all season.
    —————————————————-
    What about the Eagles, Cowboys, and Bengals pass rush? They all have more sacks than the Lions.

    It is going to be a good game, but keep thinking Alex will implode. Harbaugh will have his men ready to roll.

    Niners Gonna GET SOME!

  50. Is Roy on the Bears? Don’t remember hearing his name mentioned at all the first half. If he was a top player maybe the fans would have roared louder?

  51. Can’t hate on Roy. He did afterall generate 1st, 3rd and 6th round draft picks when he left.

    Turned out to be Brandon Pettigrew.

  52. Actually, I’m guessing it was nearly as loud back in 2007 when the Lions hosted the Bears. While that game has been forgotten by most, it was pretty awesome for one thing: fourth quarter scoring.

    There were seven touchdowns scored in that quarter, including an electrifying Devin Hester return for a td.

  53. This will be ugly for the 49’ers.

    They’re offense is built around the run game (See how Detroit shut down Adrian Peterson & Matt Forte) and a passing attack with “Blitz Beaters” built in. Thats where the majority of their good pass plays come from.

    Detroit doesnt need to blitz. With their front 4 they drop 7 in coverage which means Alex Smith wont have any blits beaters to rely on. He will have a very…very long day.

    Detroits offense is too potent & thier defense is to powerful.

    Detroit 34 – 49’ers 20.

  54. ——————————————-

    I would take Best over Gore any day. Gore is at the end of his career. He’s got MAYBE one year left before his body just gives out on him. The team has been riding him for years, and there’s only so much that one man can take.

    And as for this “balance” you keep harping on to make yourself feel better, who cares how they’re scored? Ask the Patriots or the Colts (when they have Manning) if they care. I promise you, they don’t give a damn.

    The bottom line is, we’ll see you here Sunday afternoon whining about some lame reason on why the Lions didn’t deserve to win, and your boys are still the better team.

    I’m under no disillusion that the Lions are going 16-0, but this isn’t gonna be the week that streak ends. Not in our house.
    ——————————-
    Sure you’ll take Best over Gore today. You are a lions fan. But, as of right now, Gore is a better back. There’s a reason he’s been a pro-bowl back and Best’s only 100 yard game last week.
    As for how much Gore has left, no one really knows. This discussion was not about how long his career is going to be; it was about if Best was any good he’d get some more carries.

    Actually, most people do care about balance. Ask Pats fans how many superbowls they’ve won since Brady started to light up the score board with passing numbers.

    LOL, pathetic lions fans are coming out as if they’ve won the superbowl. Can’t blame them though. Lions have been useless for decades.

    I think Lions can win this game. Oddsmaker may even have them favorites based on home field, etc. If they do, I have no excuses to give. They’d totally deserve it.

  55. Roy Williams is a Bag of used up turds. The only person who thought he is a player is Jerry Angelo. And he’s the guy holding the Bag of turds.

  56. For all the ninner fans comparing stats on qb’s or philosophies in the red zone, let’s look at you’re division. Now that is what you call a joke…

  57. As someone who has been a Niner fan for over 50 years, I’d like to congratulate the Lions and their fans. The Lions are truly an impressive team this year and I feel real good for long-time Lions fans who have suffered over the decades now being treated to a powerful, winning team. I loved Javid Best at Cal and it’s great to see him doing his thing for the Lions. The kid looks like he’s shot out of a cannon when he goes through a hole. And that big receiver is just plain scary. The Lions D-line is very, very impressive.

    Having said that, I think this Sunday will be a very competitive game and the Lions are definitely NOT a lock to win this thing. Niners linebackers are much faster than the Bears and I don’t see Best running through untouched. Niner front seven is much stronger than the Bears and their D backfield is one of the fastest in the league. And, I don’t see the Lions touching Smith as much as you think because he has become very good at these quick three-step drops. I think it’s going to be a great game.

  58. luchey: “Detroit doesnt need to blitz. With their front 4 they drop 7 in coverage which means Alex Smith wont have any blits beaters to rely on. He will have a very…very long day.”

    Tampa Bay hardly blitzed all day. They relied on a large, powerful front four to get to the QB and they came away with no sacks. Each of Smith’s three TD’s against the Bucs came on three step drops in which the Tampa Bay D-line had no time to get to him. Actually, the game in which Smith kept beating the blitz was in the second half against the Eagles, the week before. Most of the Lions sacks were speed rushes around the outside on 7-step drops. You’re just not going to see much of that with the Niners.

  59. I think it is kind of fun watching the Lions compete effectively for a change. Just think…they could be the first 15-1 Wildcard in the history of the NFL! Go Pack!

  60. And as far as the Best-Gore comparison is concerned, I’m a Niner fan, so I’m biased, but I’m also a Cal fan, so I like Javid Best. I’m inclined to feel Gore is more valuable at this point for two reasons: 1. he’s shiftier than Best – makes people miss with his moves more often and, 2. he’s a much better blocker when he’s helping Smith in the backfield – in fact most prognosticators agree that he’s one of the best backs in the league at stoning pass rushers. Niner fans have seen Gore pop up and floor rushers many times. He’s actually knocked guys out of games doing that. The guy is tough as nails.

  61. @bcar1023

    You said that only three teams have allowed fewer points than the Lions. That is a really impressive statistic. Incidentally, the 49ers happen to be one of those teams. Ranking in at Numero Dos in scoring defense is the Red and Gold. Oh, and Detroit is number three in scoring, but alas the 49ers aren’t real far behind there at number 7.

    And to everybody comparing QBs here, Ima say Stafford is a very solid player, 287 yds/game and 2.4 TDs….wow. Honestly, that is excellent, but yards don’t necessarily win games. Proof is in the pudding. 49ers are like 23rd in passing yards and yet 7th in scoring.

    I love the trash talk here….two teams who have been through the ringer for far too long. For once, the fans have something to celebrate and talk trash about.

    Good luck, Lions

    …Niners for life

  62. Hey here’s an idea,lets make an argument how Alex smith is better than Matt stafford..morons.

  63. I don’t think we’re going 0-16 next year, or ever again….thats the difference between now, and 2007.

  64. staffordsyear: “Hey here’s an idea,lets make an argument how Alex smith is better than Matt stafford..morons.”

    You’re a pretty confident name-caller, aren’t you. Have you watched any of the last few Niner games? I watched the Lions-Bears game the other night. Stafford is definitely good. He’s got a strong arm. But, at this point, Smith looks more accurate to me. Stafford missed more open receivers in that game than I’ve seen Smith miss all season. What fans like you don’t seem to get, and I find this very strange for knowledgeable NFL fans, is that the Niners and the Lions have different offensive schemes. Stafford has made a lot more throws than Smith has been asked to make. The Niners had almost no time to install a system in the off season. The Lions already had a system. The Niners have been adding to the system and installing the offense on a week-to-week basis as the season has progressed. So, comparing the two on the basis of season stats is almost irrelevant. Much more relevant is completion percentage and QB rating. Smith is third in the league in QB rating. He doesn’t make many mistakes and he’s very accurate. So, there you have it. I’ve made an argument. At this point, the argument is that Smith is better than Stafford.

  65. For all the people arguing about who is better between gore/best and stafford/smith: First of all, gore is not more elusive then best. Lol.. I still would rather have gore because he is a tough back. Overall he is just awesome. As for the qb, stafford is better. Smith has struggled so much over the years. I am a lions fan and am biased, but that is the facts still. Most non biased fans would take gore over best and stafford over smith like I stated.

  66. First of all thanks for no glass qb comments,its played out…and I was referring to comparisons above,I do think its a moronic comparison. Alex smith (agreed on the slightly better comp pct) 965 yards,7 tds,1 pick.Matthew stafford 63.6 comp pct,1,436 yards,13 tds,4 picks.
    Based on this if you wanna go by stats stafford is clearly the better qb. Yes smith is 3rd in qb rating but cmon he’s not blowing people away, stafford is 6th in qb rating and he could be in the mvp race. I’ve seen Alex smith play and I’ve been part of the minority,he’s looked good this year and parts of the 6 seasons he’s played.
    I don’t like the oc and coaching carousel argument..if a guy can play he can play,sounds like an excuse to me.Stafford has showin all the intangibles you need in a qb(every qb isn’t gonna make every throw man) in a short amount of time,were not sure what Alex smith is yet still?
    Good luck to ya Sunday and alex smith..those won’t be boos they’ll be SUUUHHHSSS! Haha, go lions!

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