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The Bears, in one ugly stat

Detroit Lions running back Javid Best avoids the tackle attempt by Chicago Bears Brian Urlacher during the fourth quarter of their NFL Monday Night football game in Detroit, Reuters

The Chicago Bears had eight false starts on Monday night, which is more than 25 teams have committed all season.

Sean Jensen of the Chicago Sun-Times breaks down the ridiculous stat from a variety of ugly angles. Chicago has 17 false starts on the year; Seattle is next worst with 12.  Three of the Bears games have been at home.

Two of the Bears players (J’Marcus Webb and Frank Omiyale) have more false starts than 12 teams.

The stat raises a larger point: Chicago has no foundation from which to build a good team.  Mike Martz refuses to bring in extra blockers to protect Jay Cutler. The whole operation looks unprofessional.

Everything on offense is hoping for Jay Cutler to make a play; the opposite of what Martz intends. The receivers are not precise with their routes (Roy Williams, Devin Hester) or too young to handle a big role (Dane Sanzenbacher.)  Even when Cutler plays great like Monday night, the team only scores 13 points. Run-blocking well the last two weeks is not enough.

The situation looks especially hopeless because the defense is ordinary. Remember: The Bears only beat Carolina at home because of Hester on special teams. The Bears defense kept giving up big plays to Carolina, just like they did to Detroit Monday. They are 29th in yards allowed and 17th in points allowed.

The safety play, led by free agent pickup Brandon Meriweather, has been miserable.

The Bears have played some of the best offenses in the league, but in the past the Bears defense would have been able to slow them down.

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  1. dukemarc says: Oct 11, 2011 3:43 PM

    This is what everyone was trying to tell Chicago last year. Everything went their way last year – well, except the last two games with the Packers – they are an ordinary team that can’t handle adversity.

  2. richardmb52 says: Oct 11, 2011 3:44 PM

    It’s gonna be a ugly year, and there won’t be any changes made. sad, we’ll get a high draft pick and they will either trade it away or waste it.

  3. medtxpack says: Oct 11, 2011 3:44 PM

    DA BEARS STILL SUCK!

  4. 303bengalguy says: Oct 11, 2011 3:45 PM

    I know Dane Sanzenbacher personally (helluva kid, a few years behind me at Central Catholic High School in Toledo, OH) and while he was racking up catches at the end there, I was almost feeling bad for the kid… he was getting these tosses over the middle (with no timeouts), or 3 yards to the sideline and I was basically saying, “wtf” is this? Cutler was dinking and dunking – but perhaps because A) his main wideouts blow, and/or B) so does the offensive line, and highly probable is C), which is that Martz is a moron.

    (Sanzenbacher is da man! Great stand-up kid with hands of glue – can’t say enough about him. He will rep you in the community well Chicago)

  5. gtorlone says: Oct 11, 2011 3:46 PM

    Well I’d probably want as much of a head start as I could get if I had to block Suh, Williams, Avril, and now Fairley. Wow that’s a great D-line.

  6. bmorelikeme says: Oct 11, 2011 3:46 PM

    I’m not a bears fan, but it was infuriating to watch Cutler repeatedly line up under center, with an empty backfield, just knowing he would get blasted before he finished his drop. Does Martz not believe in the shotgun or something?

    Also, I’ve said alot of mean things about Jay Cutler in the past, but he gutted his way through that game last night and made alot of plays out of nothing. Kudos to him for that effort.

  7. baltimorons says: Oct 11, 2011 3:47 PM

    Jay cutler should just punt the ball any time he takes a shotgun snap. Poor kid is going to get killed and I don’t think anyone in Chicago cares.

  8. freedomispopular says: Oct 11, 2011 3:48 PM

    For as long as I can remember, Chicago has always had problems with the offensive line. Jay Cutler was a beast last night, but he can’t do it all by himself. At some point, the coach and GM have to be held accountable, and they’re long overdue.

  9. test2402 says: Oct 11, 2011 3:49 PM

    Bears fans seem depressed.

  10. silvernblackpa says: Oct 11, 2011 3:50 PM

    The Martz offensive system depends on two things: a QB with a lightning quick release and receivers that run routes with pinpoint precision.

    Cutler is a good QB, but doesn’t have that Kurt Warner quick release. As you point out, the Bears don’t have good route runners….Roy Williams and Devin Hester are not Isaac Bruce and Torry Holt.

    Frankly, the decision to bring in Martz in the first place is the dumbest of all because the Bears clearly didn’t have the personnel that would make it go. That’s on the Bears’s front office.

  11. test2402 says: Oct 11, 2011 3:51 PM

    Someone take a shot at the writer of the article. That always gives me a chuckle.

  12. jpiro says: Oct 11, 2011 3:53 PM

    So the Bears need help across the OL, are getting old on defense and lack a true #1 WR?

    These are all things everyone who’s a fan of this team knew last season, but the ownership, management and coaching staff apparently did not.

  13. docredskin says: Oct 11, 2011 3:53 PM

    The Bears will be a 3rd place at best team in the NFC North for the next 5-7 years. Their O-line is mesh, their better players are either aging rapidly (Urlacher) or somehow not under contract (Forte).

    They have had an incredible string of luck for years and it’s time that end.

  14. dfeltz says: Oct 11, 2011 3:54 PM

    Packer fans are incredibly obnoxious. You’re right, the Bears struggled so badly the last the two games last year against the packers offense, that they let up 10 points in week 17 and 14 in the NFC Championship. Yes, Raji TD was defensive. The average of 12 points the last two games, yeah, the Bears were just terrible. I don’t know if you are all dumb, or just such homers.

  15. your6ringsaremeaninglessnow says: Oct 11, 2011 3:54 PM

    What was shocking was how Backus completely handled Julius Peppers throughout the game. Granted, Peppers went to the locker room for a bit, but still. Stafford had tons of time in the pocket. He just needs to fix the overthrow issue. Once this happens and Lions start games better, the Lions will be unstoppable.

  16. paulsdamnblog says: Oct 11, 2011 3:56 PM

    You know as an Eagles fan I’d like to say reading this story makes me forget the troubles of my own team a little, but it doesn’t.

  17. achap39 says: Oct 11, 2011 3:57 PM

    Somewhere, Pats fans are silently nodding in agreement when the words “miserable” and “Brandon Meriweather” are used in the same sentence.

  18. rexismybff says: Oct 11, 2011 3:58 PM

    Players and coaches who leave New England usually fail abysmally with other teams. This is because BB never teaches fundamentals – he is obsessed with running lame gadget plays on offense, defense, and special teams at all times.

    BB even turned his greatest pupil, Lawrence Taylor, into a one dimensional pass rushing gadget player. 2:52:37 PM should be considered among the best LB’s of all time, but because BB severely restricted him from learning all the fundamental skills of the position, he is looked upon as an underweight defensive end without any coverage skills.

    Unfortunately for Meriweather, the same is true. BB tried to turn him into a head-hunting, clutching, grabbing, cheating machine, ala Rodney Harrison. Now he finds himself several years behind other, comparable safeties in terms of fundamental skills for the position.

  19. justwaittilnextyear says: Oct 11, 2011 3:59 PM

    Boy was that fun watching Chicago getting whooped last night. Count on more of that to come,remember your offense and defense coordinators were last with our Lions…how did that work out for us?Btw your top 4 players really kept this from being a blowout! Urlacher Briggs Cutler and Forte played pretty good…maybe we will sign Forte next year haha!

  20. test2402 says: Oct 11, 2011 4:01 PM

    How are women and tornadoes alike? They both moan like hell when they come, and take the house when they leave.

  21. ddjesus says: Oct 11, 2011 4:03 PM

    Central Catholic sucks, go Clay Eagles!

  22. Justified By God says: Oct 11, 2011 4:04 PM

    Defense does not exist in today’s NFL. There are no good defenses anymore.

  23. spartaninnh says: Oct 11, 2011 4:05 PM

    *Sigh* Life is good. :)

  24. bearsrulepackdrool says: Oct 11, 2011 4:05 PM

    I personally think Martz is aiming for Logier Smith’s job. In two years he’s yet to make a second half adjustment and is intent on running HIS offense and killing Cutler’s career.
    He’s sabotaging this team and Lovie’s just watching.
    As a fan I feel.sick.
    Angelo needs to step in and end this. Fire them all.
    I’d rather rebuild than continue to watch Jay Cutler get Crucified every Sunday. Just so the media won’t call him soft.

  25. frankrizzo51 says: Oct 11, 2011 4:06 PM

    Big flashing sign says “Poor Coaching”. The omnipotent one, Lovie “I’m smart, you’re dumb.” Smith is responsible for this mess. The time out situation in the first quarter followed by a testosterone driven challenge to cost the third was the final straw for me. Coaches on a junior-high level know better than that. Maybe that is where the world’s smartest man belongs. He’s arrogant, smug, condescending and, laughingly, hides behind god in all of it. In this case, cut off the head, the snake keeps moving.

  26. lasher1650 says: Oct 11, 2011 4:11 PM

    303bengalguy says:
    Oct 11, 2011 3:45 PM
    I know Dane Sanzenbacher personally (helluva kid, a few years behind me at Central Catholic High School in Toledo, OH) and while he was racking up catches at the end there, I was almost feeling bad for the kid… he was getting these tosses over the middle (with no timeouts), or 3 yards to the sideline and I was basically saying, “wtf” is this? Cutler was dinking and dunking – but perhaps because A) his main wideouts blow, and/or B) so does the offensive line, and highly probable is C), which is that Martz is a moron.

    (Sanzenbacher is da man! Great stand-up kid with hands of glue – can’t say enough about him. He will rep you in the community well Chicago)
    ______________________________________
    If un-drafted rookie Dane Sanzenbacher matters on your team, your team sucks – I don’t care who knows him personally.

  27. granadafan says: Oct 11, 2011 4:12 PM

    How stupid does that decision to cut center Olin Kreutz look now? Kreutz may have been getting old, but the guy had something more invaluable, experience and leadership. A guy like him would calm his fellow lineman and also bust some heads for making the same mistakes over and over.

  28. wawa33 says: Oct 11, 2011 4:13 PM

    It’s all Mike Fartz’s fault.

  29. freebird2011 says: Oct 11, 2011 4:14 PM

    Trading away the player who was arguably the Bears best receiver (Greg Olsen) for a 3d Rd pick in 2012 seems rather short-sighted. You would have thought an offensive “genius” like Martz would have found a way to use him. The Bears sure could have used Olsen against the Lions.

  30. otistaylor89 says: Oct 11, 2011 4:16 PM

    I have no dog in this fight (Pats fan) and I agree Martz should never be employed in the NFL again, but the Bears have lost to 3 teams and those teams (Saints, Lions, Packers) are collectively averaging 40 points/game, while the great Ravens defense has beaten 3 teams and those teams (Rams, Jets, Steelers) are collectively averaging 20 points/game.

    Having said that, the Bears aren’t going anywhere.

  31. waxthat says: Oct 11, 2011 4:19 PM

    @your6ringsaremeaninglessnow

    Trust me, Backus had help throughout the game. I would give him more credit if Peppers wasnt double-teamed/chip blocked and playing hurt.

    Aside from that, the bears defense(as a whole) isnt very good.

  32. pilot2011 says: Oct 11, 2011 4:20 PM

    why does everyone put all the blame on the Oline?

    Have yall ever heard Cutler speak? He has a very high pitched, almost girly voice. Put that with a loud crowd, and it would be next to impossible to hear the dude at all.

  33. The Phantom Stranger says: Oct 11, 2011 4:20 PM

    It won’t get any better this week against Jared Allen, Kevin Williams, Brian Robison, and…I forget the fourth guy’s name, but they’re going to be on Cutler all night. And while you’re wishing you had a #1 receiver, watch Devin Aromashodu catch bombs from McNabb. Or get wide open and watch the ball sail over his head, whatever.

  34. bmorelikeme says: Oct 11, 2011 4:21 PM

    @rexismybff

    I’m pretty sure Meriweather is just a punk

  35. cowboyhater says: Oct 11, 2011 4:21 PM

    Is anyone really surprised. Their front office blew it this year trying to fill their roster with cowboy rejects. Cutler has no one to throw it to, and the offensive line sucks. I think it’s time for a change for this team, and am just glad the skins didn’t mortgage their future for Cutler when he was being shopped around. He’s no better than their ex QB Rex Grossman, who we have to suffer another year with.

  36. suhnum1fan says: Oct 11, 2011 4:24 PM

    Da Bears and Vikings will be looking up at the Leos for years to come

  37. snowpea84 says: Oct 11, 2011 4:24 PM

    Martz was only good when he had a hall of fame qb, hall of fame wr, hall of fame rb, and hall of fame LT.
    What has he done without the guys from the Rams offense?

  38. supashug says: Oct 11, 2011 4:28 PM

    its not like the Lions looked poised either. Yes they were the better team for sure.

    Neither of those teams last night would win a playoff game. It was a mess

  39. ortonsneckbeard says: Oct 11, 2011 4:31 PM

    BRING IN THE CHIN!!!

  40. acmepacker says: Oct 11, 2011 4:32 PM

    It makes me feel good to see Cutler get a little recognition. It’s been terrible how the fans and media have been beating him up, (along with the defenses of the teams they were playing). He has spent more time on the ground than he has standing up and still kept getting up for more while everyone castigated him for having no grit. He’s really a pretty good quarterback. I’d like to see what he would be capable of with some protection.

  41. cappa662 says: Oct 11, 2011 4:35 PM

    With 19 million dollars under the cap, I still have no idea why the Bears didn’t go after Andre Guorode or Bryant McKinnie or even Max Starks. They are all big improvements to what the Bears currently have. Yes, they are old linemen… but they would just be a 1 or 2 year fix. The line next year will be miserable again.

    Mike Martz system is so garbage. And yes, it doesn’t look like an NFL offense at all.

  42. gstewart400 says: Oct 11, 2011 4:35 PM

    To rexismybff:
    Your sparkling analysis of how BB turns people into bad players was FRICKIN HILARIOUS! Keep up the comedy!

  43. slickmarine says: Oct 11, 2011 4:45 PM

    Angelo and Millen both started in 2001 (with Chicago and Detroit respectfully). In 2008, Detroit woke up, realized what they had done, and fired the incompetent Millen. The contrast between the new Lions and the same ol’ Angelo Bears ought to wake some folks up to the obvious. Whine about the line, cry about the D, even blame Cutler… but ONLY WHEN they run Angelo out of town (along with a general housecleaning in the coaching staff) will the Chicago Bears again become the Monsters of the Midway.

  44. oregonbear says: Oct 11, 2011 4:47 PM

    achap39 says:
    Oct 11, 2011 3:57 PM
    Somewhere, Pats fans are silently nodding in agreement when the words “miserable” and “Brandon Meriweather” are used in the same sentence.
    _________________________________

    Dude, give it up already. We all know the guy is a punk so you don’t have to keep bring it up week after week after week.

  45. pfii63 says: Oct 11, 2011 4:50 PM

    rexismybff says:
    Oct 11, 2011 3:58 PM
    Players and coaches who leave New England usually fail abysmally with other teams. This is because BB never teaches fundamentals – he is obsessed with running lame gadget plays on offense, defense, and special teams at all times.

    BB even turned his greatest pupil, Lawrence Taylor, into a one dimensional pass rushing gadget player. 2:52:37 PM should be considered among the best LB’s of all time, but because BB severely restricted him from learning all the fundamental skills of the position, he is looked upon as an underweight defensive end without any coverage skills.

    Unfortunately for Meriweather, the same is true. BB tried to turn him into a head-hunting, clutching, grabbing, cheating machine, ala Rodney Harrison. Now he finds himself several years behind other, comparable safeties in terms of fundamental skills for the position.

    ———————————————-

    Stoooopidest post ever. Sounds like the hater Yets fan that he is!

    Meriweather overachieved in the Patriots system, and frankly wasn’t all that good there. The fact he was a two-time Pro Bowler says more about the Pro Bowl than it does his talent.

    That same Belicheck “gadget” approach also then gets to take credit for helping to create the best quarterback in the modern era; Tom Brady. Or one of the best wide receivers in the game in game in Wes Welker, or in maximizing the talents of Tedy Bruschi, Willie McGinest and Mike Vrabel to create a dominant defense.

    What’s Rex created? A GQ cover?

  46. sfkforever says: Oct 11, 2011 4:50 PM

    JFL acceptable…NFL unacceptable…5-11 : (

  47. blueintown says: Oct 11, 2011 4:51 PM

    @bearsrulepackdrool Why would Martz think that sabotaging this team would give him a leg up on becoming the head coach? And he’s intentionally trying to kill Cutler’s career…so he can coach him? You should try embracing reality for a change.

  48. cowboys1988 says: Oct 11, 2011 4:57 PM

    Am i the only one who thinks the bears had ONE lucky season last year? Seriously they have always been a 6-10 team and it looks their theyre headin back to that.

  49. sodaknick says: Oct 11, 2011 4:59 PM

    Donovan McNabb will give the Bears D a much needed lift.

  50. trollhammer20 says: Oct 11, 2011 5:00 PM

    It’s only fitting Seattle would be in second place in false-start penalties. The Seahawks are starting two rookies (Moffett and Carpenter), one second-year player (Okung), one third year player who missed a whole season with a foot injury (Unger), and Gallery (who’s been out the last few games).

    Why is Seattle having to start so many youngsters? Because Tim “Timmay” Ruskell, thought he could skimp on drafting offensive linemen in early rounds, and address the O-line with later picks and cheap free agent pickups. Ruskell spent two high picks on the O-Line during his entire tenure with the Seahawks: Chris Spencer, who never lived up to the hype (and is now with the Bears), and Max Unger, a second-round pick in 2008 who is the only offensive linemen left from the Ruskell era.

    In contrast, in the two drafts since they took over the team, Carroll and Schneider have spent both first-rounders and one third-rounder on offensive linemen.

    Ruskell’s systematic neglect of the offensive line is why Matt Hasselbeck went from being a top-8 kind of QB to the often-hurt, skittish pick machine he was for a lot of his last few years with the Seahawks. The offensive line was so thin, on multiple occasions between 2007-09 the team had to sign a player on Tuesday and put him in the starting lineup on Sunday.

    Why mention this? Because Timmay Ruskell is now part of the Chicago front office.

    Good luck, Bear fans. You’ll need it.

  51. thevalsalvamanouvre says: Oct 11, 2011 5:02 PM

    Poor Cutler is going to get killed back there…the beatings will continue because as you Bears fans will come to find out, Tim Ruskell will ignore the o-line while blowing first round picks on Good Locker Room Guys.

  52. frankrizzo51 says: Oct 11, 2011 5:03 PM

    Hard to argue with the non-Bears fans. The way the Bears are playing and are being run makes me feel like a Cub fan.

  53. jdd428 says: Oct 11, 2011 5:09 PM

    You could replace this Bears o-line with the 1985 line of Bortz, Thayer, Hilgenberg, Van Horne and Covert and it would be an improvement.

  54. asublimeday says: Oct 11, 2011 5:11 PM

    why does everyone put all the blame on the Oline?

    Have yall ever heard Cutler speak? He has a very high pitched, almost girly voice. Put that with a loud crowd, and it would be next to impossible to hear the dude at all.
    ————

    You’re either unfunny or ignorant. I think it’s 50/50

  55. jrmbadger says: Oct 11, 2011 5:14 PM

    I think if I were Cutler’s agent, I would advise him to ask for a trade or cause trouble if he doesn’t get it (like changing the plays at the line of scrimmage to all runs). Any talent he has is wasting away behind that absolute joke of an offensive line.

  56. trollhammer20 says: Oct 11, 2011 5:21 PM

    Oh, and furthermore: Ruskell is the guy who decided not to franchise Steve Hutchinson. Instead, he left the door open for Minnehaha to steal him with a poison-pill contract, and signed 30 year old Shawn Alexander to a massive contract extention.

  57. relaunche says: Oct 11, 2011 5:26 PM

    My God… You Lions fans need to relax! Your one injury away from being mediocre again! Shut up already! Your already acting like you are a team of freakin destiny… Shut it! I am happy you are doing well, I really am. But come on man.

  58. packchampxlv says: Oct 11, 2011 5:30 PM

    Ladies and gentleman, your defending NFC North champions!

    BEAR DOWN!!!

  59. spook3450 says: Oct 11, 2011 5:36 PM

    To any knowledgable, X’s & O’s, student of the game of football..it is clear to see that the Chicago Bears are a mess from top to bottom. From GM Angelo, Lovie, Martz, etc., this is a group that Ted Phillips and the McCaskey family should be ashamed of. No heart, no passion, no direction, just a listless ship without a rudder. The best solution at the end of this season ?? Flush them all and bring home Jeff Fisher (former Halas and 1985 Super Bowl Bear), to rebuild the “Monsters of the Midway” tradition on and off the field. Time to “man up” with a guy that’s “got a set” and can really lead and inspire!!

  60. aljack88 says: Oct 11, 2011 5:42 PM

    rexismybff says:
    Oct 11, 2011 3:58 PM

    ….BB even turned his greatest pupil, Lawrence Taylor, into a one dimensional pass rushing gadget player……but because BB severely restricted him from learning all the fundamental skills of the position, he is looked upon as an underweight defensive end without any coverage skills.

    LT is one of the greatest defensive players of all time. There hasn’t been a player on the D side of the ball who has had more of an impact on the game than him. The need to protect the QB’s “blind side”, the importance of the Left Tackle on the O line, all came to be as a result of his play; and the others that have come along playing with the same style.

    So rexi, what would have LT gone on to if BB hadn’t “ruined” him?

  61. rayguyreturns says: Oct 11, 2011 5:43 PM

    I’m a fan of neither team, although I actually don’t dislike them at all. Just a casual observer.

    1) It’s about time the Lions are relevant.

    2) Jay Cutler went up 10 notches in my book to keep playing even though he had a target painted on him on EVERY play.

    3) The Bears penalties and poor offense remind me of my Art Shell Raiders under Version 2.0

    4) We should have drafted Calvin Johnson.

  62. Nevis says: Oct 11, 2011 5:57 PM

    The Bears are a below average team and they were last year too. Don’t give me “but they made the NFCC game!” Yeah, well Seattle made the divisional game and you’re not going to convince anyone outside of north Washington state that the Seahawks were “good”.

    “But they beat Atlanta!” Yeah, the Falcons are overrated too.

    Until Chicago can compete with Green Bay, we need to call a spade a spade: Bears are an 8 win team.

  63. dapitt19 says: Oct 11, 2011 6:13 PM

    man, the bears fans are looking so depressed…… the good news is that cutler played out of his mind last night, and really earned my respect personally, with a gutty performance, dealing with an absolutely pathetic offensive line.
    the bad news is that your GM JERRY ANGELO is absolutely running the
    team into the ground.. ANGELO , smith, martz, marinelli all need to go or its gonna get worse… trust me.. I know !
    GO LIONS!

  64. tatum064 says: Oct 11, 2011 6:15 PM

    Unfortunately for Meriweather, the same is true. BB tried to turn him into a head-hunting, clutching, grabbing, cheating machine, ala Rodney Harrison. Now he finds himself several years behind other, comparable safeties in terms of fundamental skills for the position.
    ===========================
    Meriweather wasnt nearly the player Harrison was , so the analysis is ridiculous. Harrison was at Pro Bowl level before he even got to New England.

    Seymour made the Pro Bowl when he left New England for Oakland, and is among league leaders with 7 sacks.

    FAIL

  65. ha5ko says: Oct 11, 2011 6:32 PM

    This Bears team is not a lot different from last years team. The Defense is 1 year older and all the good fortune is gone. Peppers has looked pedestrian, when last year he was unstoppable. That all equals the loses, the loses are to good teams, but the Bears look bad at this point, with no real chance of turning it around.

  66. edavidberg says: Oct 11, 2011 6:37 PM

    As a Bears fan I couldn’t say it better myself. Maybe a new GM will draft a couple offensive linemen with potential. Only 1 drafted the last 2 years despite one of the worst lines in the league.

  67. russ99a says: Oct 11, 2011 6:49 PM

    Every NFL team faces adversity. The difference with this regime is they never change the plan once they see adversity. Every other head coach/OC in the NFL would have gone to a shotgun set last night but the Bears. The system is more important than wins and losses it seems…

  68. angrygrizzly says: Oct 11, 2011 6:51 PM

    Been a Bears fan my entire life…what I witnessed last night was embarassing. This problem starts at the top. With the McCaskey family rewarding loyalty with longevity in spite of the quiality of your work. Then on Jerry Angelo’s failure at drafts and prospects. Then on down to the coaches …. how many times does Cutler have to call a time out while waiting on a play? How many false starts do we get from lack of preparation? Cutler is one of the few, and I mean few, high dollar free agent pick ups they have and they are letting him get killed back there. Inexcusable how they have not gotten him help at receiver. Hester cant grasp the offense, and Williams looks slow and inefficient and theres a reason Dallas got rid of him. Now the team, that is like 18million under cap, is refusing give Forte, its most productive player, a contract he deserves. I say fire Martz now and promote Dave Toub. Cut Frank Omiyale. Max protect Cutler. Get through this season and fire Jerry Angelo and Lovie, clean house and hire Bill Cowher or someone like him!!

  69. rexismybff says: Oct 11, 2011 7:21 PM

    @pfii @tatum – you make my point for me – all you can point to are current Pats or guys who only excelled with the Pats (Welker, Brady, Bruschi, McGinest, Vrabel), or one guy who had all-pro talent straight out of college – Seymour. Everyone else who goes through BB’s “system”, coach or player, fails abysmally outside of Boston because BB teaches the fundamentals of the game to NO ONE. Quite possibly, he has no idea what the fundamental skills of the game are himself. He is so enamored of gadget offensive schemes, cheating and illegal holding, clutching and grabbing on offense, defense and special teams, that he has gotten completely away from running a technically sound, skilled team.
    Guys like Meriweather falling on his face in Chicago is the result of BB’s poor coaching – the guy has physical talent, but under BB’s weird systems he failed to learn fundamental skills for his position.

  70. cdub777 says: Oct 11, 2011 7:43 PM

    The NFL is about talent,,,teams that have it win ,,teams that don’t lose. The game plans and plays are the same ones used across the league. Whoever controls the line of scrimmage wins. The Bears lose because they don’t have talent on the O Line and that’s Jerry Angelo’s fault,,, not Lovie’s,, not Marinelli’s,, not Tice or Martz. Jerry Angelo should fired!! Lovie is a good coach,, as are most of the coaches employed in the league,,, but unless they have talent it won’t matter. PLEASE FIRE ANGELO !!!!

  71. pilot2011 says: Oct 11, 2011 7:59 PM

    Once again I’ll hold firm to my opinion that it’s Cutler, not the Oline.

    The guy is a jerk, plain and simple. Guys don’t lay it on the line play after play for someone that distant and nonchalant.

    You never see any enthusiasm or demand for excellence. Even when guys do mess up, he never claps his hands or encourages his guys.

    People may consider it a non-story, but do yall seriously think that no one on that Bears roster felt deep down that Cutler should be in LA to watch Dancing with the Stars?

  72. scytherius says: Oct 11, 2011 8:04 PM

    I am no Cutler fan at ALL. But that poor guy takes some horrific shots and keeps getting up. He needs to file suit against this coaching staff for reducing his career by 5 years.

    Not leaving someone in backfield to block for him is inexcusable.

  73. jutts says: Oct 11, 2011 8:07 PM

    Please George Mckaskey; Please, please, please get rid of the front office. Show the fans of the Bears that we can atleast hope…. Jerry Angelo is a Joke, and he is turning the Chicago Bears into a laughing stock. The rest of the league has got to be saying it. We will suffer the way the Lions did under Matt Millen. Please George. Please.

  74. philtration says: Oct 11, 2011 8:25 PM

    granadafan says: Oct 11, 2011 4:12 PM

    How stupid does that decision to cut center Olin Kreutz look now? Kreutz may have been getting old, but the guy had something more invaluable, experience and leadership.
    =================================

    The Bears did not cut Olin Kreutz.
    They offered him $ 4 million a year and he let his ego get in the way because he wanted another $500,000.
    He signed with the Saints for half that much and no one else was going to pay him what the Bears were going do pay.
    That was a dumb move by a guy whose best years are behind him.

  75. finley88thebeast says: Oct 11, 2011 8:33 PM

    ha I love it the bears still suck

  76. thousandcasts says: Oct 11, 2011 9:30 PM

    As a Lions fan, I hate the Bears–but to compare Cutler to Grossman is just ridiculous. Give Cutler an O-line and one…just one go to receiver and he’s gonna win more games than he loses. Give Grossman that and a running game and he’s still Rex Grossman.

    Follow me here, Bears fan: The starting QB is not the issue with your football team…not even close. Say it again for good measure and keep repeating that until you actually believe it.

    Here’s the difference between the Bears and the Lions. Both paid a high price for a franchise caliber QB. One of those teams has since put pieces around said QB to maximize their investment. The other team did not. Hence, one team is 5-0 with a high powered offense and the other is 2-3 with a QB that is being thrown to the wolves, so to speak.

  77. pigeonpea says: Oct 11, 2011 9:45 PM

    Cutler had a great performance, as did Forte. I can’t say much for the rest of the team. Da Bears seem to have regressed badly from last season, and it is obvious at this point Mike Martz is an idiot altogether. His crazy schemes need a stout oline to give the QB time to get rid of the ball, along with good wideouts (not punt return specialists). I’ll be surprised if Cutler lasts to Week 12 with the punishment he is taking.

    The Lions, on the other hand, look better and better each week. It is good to see them succeeding for a change. God knows they need it!

  78. pigskinswag says: Oct 12, 2011 10:45 AM

    Aw come on refs! Give ‘em a break! Since they struggle with blocking, they just want to get a little head start!

  79. funinfused says: Oct 12, 2011 12:37 PM

    When will we quit calling Martz an offensive genius and start looking at him as someone that just lucked into a really good situation in St Louis? Every stop since he’s shown an inability absent that caliber of players to adapt and put his teams in position to win. It’s always the same, qb’s getting killed, receivers not having time to run their routes, neglecting the run game, etc.

  80. jimmylions says: Oct 13, 2011 8:59 PM

    Cutting Olin Kreutz, over a relatively small amount of cash (as far as NFL salaries go), was a really dumb decision.

    There are a lot of reasons why Bears fans are in for a disappointing season. I point the finger at the GM and Owner, who aren’t making the commitment to bring in the necessary personnel.

    Hiring Rod Marinneli to run the Defense was a giant mistake by Lovie Smith. Marinelli is the defensive genius who destroyed the Lions defense. Schwartz has rebuilt the defense from scratch.

    I actually like Mike Martz’s offensive scheme – when you have a semi-decent O-line and a corps of speedy receivers, the Martz offense can run up the score. But … the Bears don’t have the personnel to run the Martz scheme, so why bother? And Martz’s decision to bring in Roy Williams (overrated and overpaid) to lead the WR corps was also pretty stupid!

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