Report: Mangini turned down Eagles defensive consultant job

AP

The Eagles tried to quiet down all the negativity in Philadelphia on Tuesday by deflecting the defensive consultant issue.

The team said they weren’t hiring a defensive consultant.  That doesn’t mean they didn’t try to.

ESPN’s Sal Paolantonio reported Wednesday morning that Eric Mangini was the team’s first choice for the gig, but he turned down the offer. Mangini is now working at ESPN.

The fact the Eagles already offered the job to someone makes us think they’ll find someone to come in during their bye week.

82 responses to “Report: Mangini turned down Eagles defensive consultant job

  1. Championship! Ahhh, Oct 12th, The Philies are done playing and we’re already thinking that next year will be The Eagles year. I almost forgot what this was like… so how about them Flyers?

  2. How about Condoleeza Rice (pictured with Mangini)? Makes about as much sense as making your O-Line coach the D-Coordinator.

  3. Would’ve been a no-show job, purely for PR reasons.

    Isn’t he a 3-4 guy anyway? Not that a 3-4 would be much worse of a fit for our personnel than the wide 9.

    I’m sure it was made clear to him that such a position would be limited to agreeing with Andy and towing the party line.

    He has more pride than that.

    Aren’t there any Mormons Andy can hook up? Reno Mahe available?

  4. Wow – they really are acting like the Old Redskins – hire a coordinator before head coach, limit your options so hire coordinator to be head coach, bring in consultant, fire head coach. The Eagles hired their D Line coach before the coordinator, no one wanted the job, gave it to an offensive line coach, hire a consultant….

    Bring in the best that money can buy, team implodes.

    Meanwhile, Washington has learned their lessons and are building something special through the draft, smart low key free agents and heart. I love it.

    Hail to the Redskins.

  5. Eagle fan for 26 years who has no problem working for free, right here.

    Suggestion #1. Lock your corners into man coverage. Press on the right side with Nnamdi 24/7. Safety over the top of Asante, who is green lighted to choose press or soft coverage.

    Suggestion #2. Utilize Wide 9 tecnnique only on 2nd/3rd and long, and in 2:00 defense.

    Suggestion #3. Sell your first-born child to bring back Brian Dawkins (assuming he is healthy after neck injury) to instill some leadership to this group. Oh, and to help the run D.

    Can I help?

  6. I don’t blame him. Working at ESPN is probably a sweet job for a former coach. If the Eagles’ defense didn’t improve after his hire, he’d become a lightning rod for a notoriously vicious fan base.

  7. He should. After some joker in the organization gets rid of the LB’s and Safties, makes poor draft decisions, and signs a butch of me players, not much he or anyone can do.

  8. Mangini doesn’t make much sense since he’s a 3-4 guy but they need someone who knows how defense works up in Philly. The scheme doesn’t make sense with the talent the Eagles have so whoever has an answer would be a welcome addition

  9. thank god. Look nobody can deny the eagles talent on defense. Some weak spots? SURE! But there is no reason why this defense cant be a top 10 defense in this league. Should be a top 5 to be honest. Is it really so hard? Play press man to man on nnamdi’s side and off man to man on assantes side and bring 8 in the box and leave a safty over top of assante in case he likes to jump something. ITS THAT SIMPLE!!! On offense? Work on the redzone but basicly just don’t turn it over. Offense can move up and down the field against any defense. THERE YA GO ANDY, I JUST LAID IT OUT FOR YOU

  10. jeffro33 – I don’t know about the Brian Dawkins thing (seriously you gotta move on from that). But point 1 and 2 are spot on. This defense could be dominant if done right. But the coaches are idiots…

  11. I usually don’t say much….but Philly just constantly runs their mouths (not so much this year…hey where are you guys?). so I can’t wait till Kerrakpo ends your season. Now that will be “DREAMY”

  12. Mangini is underrated. He was sabotaged by a primadonna QB in New York who took the team hostage for the last 6 games of the season and then went to a no-win situation in Cleveland because of Holmgren coming to town. He deserves another chance somewhere.

  13. It wouldn’t be the first Jets-Eagles connection.

    Remember Rich Kotite. Wasn’t he a former Jets O-Coordinator?

    Or in the more modern era, Hugh Douglas anybody?

  14. Mangini reportedly turned down the job because he was overqualified for the position, seeing as he has actually….Coordinated…..A…..Defense….Before

  15. Why is it that Mangini is always smiling on ESPN and in this picture with Condolinguez Rice. The man seems more at home than ever.

    As a Browns fan, I feel as the though the man got a tough break in Cleveland, too bad he didn’t get one more season. All the Browns needed was a new offensive coordinator. But now, we’ve got Shurmur. C’Mon Man, lets open up this offense.

  16. Working for ESPN, he doesn’t actually have to be “accountable” for any coaching decisions.

    Perfect arrangement for a guy who can’t, um, coach.

    As for the Eagles, they need to sit down and figure out who is the “Dream” Defensive Coordinator, and go after him……..

    1/3 of the way through this “Dream” season.

  17. Reid said in his presser today that they never even contacted anyone, and that the whole story was fabricated. Don’t know who’s telling the truth, but that’s what Reid said.

  18. Who the hell would take this job? Turn it around, Castillo gets credit- he’s still the DC.

    Don’t turn it around, it’s a black mark on your resume.

    That said, I’d hire Jeffro33. All of his suggestions would be vast improvements.

    Not sure what he would do about their punter-sized linebackers, though.

  19. “your6ringsaremeaninglessnow says:
    Oct 12, 2011 11:34 AM
    Why would the Eagles bring in Mangina? Are they switching to a 3-4? Am I missing something here?”

    Yeah I was thinking the same thing but after they hired an offensive line coach to be their defensive coordinator, nothing shocks me anymore.

  20. Frankly, I think Condi can do a better job than Juan Castillo. After all, what does it take to mess up anything? Heck, the Eagles can save more than 15% off their d-coordinator salary by hiring me for 50% less.

  21. Everyone needs to stop with the “3-4” guy talks.

    When Mangini came into New England, they were running a 4-3 base, and did so for a lot of the 2000 and 2001 seasons under Belichick.

    Bill Belichick is scheme versatile – his players and coaches can play in multiple fronts and still be effective players.

    Eric Mangini didn’t quite work out as a head coach – but he wasn’t exactly terrible. He’s a good personnel evaluator and a good defensive coach, no matter which way you put it.

    Now, I should add, I absolutely loathe the guy. But that doesn’t mean he couldn’t help a team whether they run a 4-3 or 3-4.

  22. Consultant?? They need an experienced defensive coordinator, not a consultant. What is this, IBM??

    Andy has really screwed himself with this Castillo thing. I’ve always liked him, but this debacle suggests it’s time for a head coaching change in Philly. Some acts of stupidity are too colossal to overlook.

  23. richm2256 says: Oct 12, 2011 12:01 PM

    Working for ESPN, he doesn’t actually have to be “accountable” for any coaching decisions.

    Perfect arrangement for a guy who can’t, um, coach.
    _____________________________________
    Crikey I hate what this guy (EM) did to my team but I can’t let this one go. Mangini CAN coach the hell out of DBs and there’s one he coached in Philly who was actually developed into the CB he is now when Mangini coached him. You know this, you’re a Pats fan too. I hate what the guy did for many reason but he isn’t a bad coach. Maybe not a great HC, but I would give him my DBs to coach in a heartbeat.

  24. I don’t buy this at all Mangini is a 3-4 guy and the Eagles have said flat out this is a lie.

    If we were talking Gruden , Fisher, Cowher, or maybe Cecil I would buy it.

    1 thing stands out in this report Mangini was the Eagles first choice………………now anyone with a brain knows thats a lie………..sounds like a Mangini PR rep went to town lol.

  25. @jeffro33: If you can get a copy of last week’s Eagles game, check it out. They did exactly #1 and #2 from about the 8:00 mark of the 3rd quarter and gave up just 3 points the rest of the game, and the FG was after a turnover. As for #3, A) It would mean the Eagles admitted a mistake, and there’s no chance of that B) BDawk is one of my favorite players of all time, but this year he looks like most of the safeties that are already on the Eagles.

  26. You know the “dream team” has got problems when they try to hire Mangini and even he turns them down!

  27. As bad as it had been this season I don’t think skins or niners fans have any room to talk smack. The eagles have 3 bad years in the last 13 an everyone piles on to trash them. Congrats on fast starts to two teams that have been nothin short of terrible over the past ten to fifteen years. If either team wins their division my hat will be off to them and their fans. I have a feeling the eagles will turn it around and play spoiler for the skins and cowboys. and if the niners can’t win that division it is pathetic. Fly eagles fly!!!

  28. Mangini has an easy gig on ESPN…….and I think he’s pretty good.

    Philly is a mess and if he can’t work a miracle, he’ll share blame for something that already existed. Very little upside for him.

    Reid will probably be done too, so there may not even be the ability to come back next year as D-Coordinator.

    I’d stay put if I were him.

  29. burgundyandgold says: Oct 12, 2011 11:41 AM

    Wow – they really are acting like the Old Redskins – hire a coordinator before head coach, limit your options so hire coordinator to be head coach, bring in consultant, fire head coach. The Eagles hired their D Line coach before the coordinator, no one wanted the job, gave it to an offensive line coach, hire a consultant….

    Bring in the best that money can buy, team implodes.

    Meanwhile, Washington has learned their lessons and are building something special through the draft, smart low key free agents and heart. I love it.

    Hail to the Redskins.
    ————————————————————–
    Impartial Giant fan here. Is the guy in the glass house throwing stones right now? What about the ‘Old Redskins’? Rex Grossman is your QB playing an easy schedule. Relax, hoss.

  30. I heard Sal Pal on Mike Miss yesterday talking about before they made the decision to hire Juan as the DC they were after Rob Ryan… who already had a handshake deal with Jerruah.

  31. “7thlombardiontheway says:
    Oct 12, 2011 11:34 AM
    6 rings. Jealous?”

    Why? The team I root for has 13 and a realistic shot at a 14th.

    Signed:
    A Packer fan.

  32. jeffro33 says:

    “Eagle fan for 26 years who has no problem working for free, right here.

    Suggestion #1. Lock your corners into man coverage. Press on the right side with Nnamdi 24/7. Safety over the top of Asante, who is green lighted to choose press or soft coverage.

    Suggestion #2. Utilize Wide 9 tecnnique only on 2nd/3rd and long, and in 2:00 defense.

    Suggestion #3. Sell your first-born child to bring back Brian Dawkins (assuming he is healthy after neck injury) to instill some leadership to this group. Oh, and to help the run D.”

    One more thing… Learn and practice running the ball on 3rd and 1!!! an actual run play not some sort of wildcat/pass option!

  33. As several have pointed out above, “Why Mangini”? 3-4 guy who refused to recognize that Cleveland had the personnel for the 4-3. The guy who thought old Jets special teams linebackers were better than Kamerion Wimbley. He could not figure a way to use him. Good luck with 5th, 6th, 7th rounders Reid has chosen to make the team.

    Was if because the Eagles were going to fire Reid and have a fill in for temporary head coach in place?

    Need I remind people Mangini drafted a project player in the second round of the 1999 on a very depleted Browns team. The player was a undersized defense end from Hawaii. He was waived before his second year with zero starts.

    And let us not forget Mangini was benched by Belichick for lame defense calls/game plans during a Super Bowl run season. Or simple put, Belichick had to take over the defense when Mangini was the defensive coordinator. No where does anyone point this important fact. Mangini has become a 2x ex head coach and millionaire riding off of coattails.

    The Belichick tree is..well Bill Belicheck. Plain and simple. How is his defense playing this year? Check out the 2010 stats as well. Funny how he has not won a Super Bowl since being caught for cheating.

  34. SERIOUSLY Mangenious is a 3 time loser
    1 threw the patriots under the bus
    2 failed with the jets
    3 failed with the browns
    sounds more like a GIANT candidate to me.

  35. Everyone knows Mangini was already promised Tony Sparano’s job after this season. Why would he give up sitting on a couch at ESPN to be Rieds “consultant”.

    Hire me… I can do a mean Mangini impression

    (with very noticable lisp) “Switch to the 3-4, now where’s my money?”

  36. westnorthcoast says: The Belichick tree is..well Bill Belicheck. Funny how he has not won a Super Bowl since being caught for cheating.

    Funny how some fans think they’re being smart by using a 16-0 season, a consistent role atop the AFC East and role as perennial Super Bowl favorites as “proof” that the Patriots can’t win without “cheating”

    Funny how some fans have been able to convince themselves that coaches and coordinators aren’t covering their mouths when calling in plays because other teams are filming playcalling as well

    And Funny how some fans actually think that signal stealing and spying hasn’t been going on since the 1950s – and continues today as the recent Jets sideline film crew demonstrated (though don’t expect Goodell to ask to see what’s on that videotape. The Jets get special treatment)

  37. I wonder if Jeffrey Lurie still has that Sh*tty grin on his face when asked about the success of free agency and the “all in” comment by Joe Banner?

    Seeing the eagles crash and burn…priceless!

  38. westnorthcoast- isn’t the “Belichick tree” really just a pretty thick branch off the Parcells’ trunk”? That being the case, that is a pretty decent SB winning piece of botany right there. (Parcells, Belichick, Coughlin, Sean Payton). In fact, all pretty darn recent too.

  39. How come almost all packer, cowboy and washington fans seem to be outcasts in society? I mean they are all f-d up when it comes to dealing with people in the everyday aspects of life. You can pick a cowcoy loser out at a food store and he is acting strange – and he is all by himself – never with any friends….. probebly even in dallas

  40. greymares says:
    SERIOUSLY Mangenious is a 3 time loser
    1 threw the patriots under the bus
    2 failed with the jets
    3 failed with the browns
    sounds more like a GIANT candidate to me.

    Well, he was on a team that won three Super Bowls, so, you’re right – no chance he can work with the Eagles. They have never known that level of success and probably never will. Besides, he would never get to work on time. All of Philly would be asking to see his Super Bowl rings since no one in that town has actually seen one before.

  41. @j0esixpack – That was a cheap shot at Belichick. I should have stayed with the Mangini bashing.

    jakek2 – It is. I was only including the major mistakes…Crennel, Mangini, McDaniels

  42. Why would anybody want to be second fiddle to an offensive line coach who never coached the defense before in anything above high school?

  43. I like how someone at ESPN broke the news that another guy at ESPN denied a job…It must have been real hard for him to get that information.

  44. alaricsrevenge says:

    I heard Sal Pal on Mike Miss yesterday talking about before they made the decision to hire Juan as the DC they were after Rob Ryan… who already had a handshake deal with Jerruah.

    ————————————————-
    I need meat for the family dinner. Well, they just sold the last Porterhouse steak, so I guess I’ll buy … a can of Alpo dog food???

    So what if they couldn’t get Rob Ryan? That was no reason to hire an offensive-line coach who hasn’t worked with a defense in more than two decades. I’m sure there were other defensive coaches available after Ryan passed.

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