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Vikings say “more than one community” has contacted team regarding a possible move

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Vikings V.P. of public affairs and stadium development Lester Bagley joined PFT Live on Thursday for a comprehensive update of the effort to get a new stadium in Minnesota for the team.

Momentum seems to be building for a resolution of the situation, one way or the other.  Bagley said that, on Monday, Governor Mark Dayton and legislative leaders will meet in the hopes of identifying possible sources for the state’s $300 million contribution, and also to explore whether a special legislative session before the end of the year can be scheduled.

With the Metrodome lease expiring after the 2011 season, Bagley said the Vikings refuse to extend the lease absent a plan for a new venue.  And if the lease expires absent a plan for a new venue, all sorts of things could happen.

Most significantly, Bagley said that “more than one community” has contacted the team about a possible move.  Though Bagley declined to identify the communities involved, he believes that the efforts will become public if/when the lease expires.

Obviously, there’s a chance that the Vikings are bluffing — not about the fact that other communities want the team to move there, but about the Vikings’ genuine willingness to relocate.

Either way, the powers-that-be in Minnesota won’t know whether it’s a bluff until the powers-that-be call the bluff.  And if they call the bluff and it’s not a bluff, the Vikings could be playing elsewhere as soon as 2012.

Look for things to move fairly quickly.  Minnesota needs to decide, once and for all, whether it will build a new stadium.  And if the new stadium won’t be built, the Vikings need to decide, once and for all, what they plan to do.

A year-to-year arrangement simply won’t work.  Fans will begin to detach from the team absent some closure as to whether the team will be staying or going.

Thus, build it or not, move or not, now is the time to bring this issue to a boil.

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103 Responses to “Vikings say “more than one community” has contacted team regarding a possible move”
  1. dbellina says: Oct 13, 2011 6:17 PM

    Anchorage needs a team, right?

  2. contra74 says: Oct 13, 2011 6:18 PM

    Whatever happens I think its ridiculous of any fan to come on here and poke fun of or hope that a team moves. No true fan of any team should wish that on any fanbase. Really? Thats what you guys are all about?

  3. chowface86 says: Oct 13, 2011 6:20 PM

    Welcome to LA

  4. jcusa514 says: Oct 13, 2011 6:22 PM

    this is clearly just a power play, but i think it’s going to be a dark horse city if the vikes move. my guess is san antonio

  5. everlong016 says: Oct 13, 2011 6:22 PM

    As a Packer fan, I’d hate it if the Vikings moved somewhere else. It’s a really special rivalry going right now, and the biggest reason it’s so great is the regional aspect of it. If the Vikings were to move to, say, Los Angeles, a ton of the heat would be taken out of the rivalry.

    It’s better for the game for the Vikings to stay in Minnesota, so I hope something gets figured out, and quick.

  6. packattack1967 says: Oct 13, 2011 6:23 PM

    Oklahoma City Yaaa Hoooo

  7. jdreed68 says: Oct 13, 2011 6:26 PM

    I honestly think that Minnesota needs the Vikings more than the Vikings need Minnesota.

  8. ravenspit says: Oct 13, 2011 6:26 PM

    Des Moines, Iowa-gonna take the place of the Barnstormers. At least in the arena league they have a shot to win the division.

  9. jdreed68 says: Oct 13, 2011 6:27 PM

    They should screw them over like the Colts did Baltimore and keep their name so the Viks will never play in Minnesota again….hahaha

  10. trollhammer20 says: Oct 13, 2011 6:29 PM

    Oh, so we’ve reached the part where arms get twisted.

    I love extortion.

    *munches popcorn*

  11. scudbot says: Oct 13, 2011 6:33 PM

    Fargo called and left a message twice.

  12. jvillenole says: Oct 13, 2011 6:35 PM

    Rumor has it that an investment group is trying to lure a second team to Jacksonville. Look for a Jax South team!

  13. scudbot says: Oct 13, 2011 6:35 PM

    Just build the damn Arden Hills stadium and all will be forgiven once the team gets right again. Room for tailgating, run some snomo trails up to the parking lot, no roof. Come on folks, it’s the NFC North.

  14. bobnelsonjr says: Oct 13, 2011 6:37 PM

    More than one community:

    City of Industry
    Los Angeles
    Mexico City
    Guadalajara
    London

    A rural state like Minnesota cannot afford to carry an NFL team. Te NFL francise as to make enough money to build its own stadium.

    The first team South of the Border becomes Mexico’s team and could pick up a whole nation of fans.

  15. bnwillard says: Oct 13, 2011 6:38 PM

    The Vikings will moving to Toronto in order to keep the NFC North intact. and the Jaguars will be moving to Los Angeles.

  16. johnnyb216 says: Oct 13, 2011 6:42 PM

    Tick tock tick tock… I absolutely love watching all these Viking fans squirm over the thought of their team taking a hike. It is one of my favorite things in the world. I will be so sad when it is all over. But then all ill have to do is think of the 13 world championships the packers won and the zero that the vikings have won and I’ll cheer right up.

  17. Exiled1 says: Oct 13, 2011 6:43 PM

    packattack1967 says:Oct 13, 2011 6:23 PM

    Oklahoma City Yaaa Hoooo
    ———————————————————

    I believe it’s “Yeee-Haa”

  18. grogansheroes says: Oct 13, 2011 6:45 PM

    I don’t know why they expect the taxpayers to kick in $300M. You have an owner that is super rich, making obscene profits. Why not build the stadium on his own dime? Maybe the state could help with infrastructure, but this is a private company. And when the taxpayers cave in so as to not lose their team, they are rewarded with psl’s or seat licencing to boot!

  19. polishkingski says: Oct 13, 2011 6:48 PM

    as a bills supporter it would be sad to see the vikes leave home. however as said above by “ravenspit” it would be reall really cool if the vikes could settle in a greater metro area around a tri-state area. like dude says, iowa, somewhere there in the upper mid west would be awesome. if i lived in minnesota i would ok with that and you get a bigger fan base. i am not knocking the area when i say this because i am an outdoorsman and have been there, its natural beauty is incredible but i think bringing pro football to that area would be an exciting thing to happen.

  20. purplekoolaid1 says: Oct 13, 2011 6:48 PM

    Looks like you need a new toupee my friend.

  21. childressrulz says: Oct 13, 2011 6:49 PM

    This is sad but honestly if I owned the vikings I would move them to a stadium and city that would pay to see them play. I would want to generate as much revenue as possible and that means a bigger market. I hope they don’t but Zigi or whatever his name is is no fool.

  22. therolandobottom says: Oct 13, 2011 6:52 PM

    Vikings aren’t going anywhere.

  23. waussau says: Oct 13, 2011 6:53 PM

    Austin!!!!!!!!

  24. highspirits1 says: Oct 13, 2011 6:53 PM

    contra74 says: Oct 13, 2011 6:18 PM

    Whatever happens I think its ridiculous of any fan to come on here and poke fun of or hope that a team moves. No true fan of any team should wish that on any fanbase. Really? Thats what you guys are all about?

    “Welcome to the life of a Jaguars fan. We still hear it even when we continue to avoid blackouts and teams like Begnals and Bucs can’t show a game on TV”

  25. dbara43 says: Oct 13, 2011 6:55 PM

    The dark horse city is Vancouver. They have a recently remodeled stadium, redone for the 2010 winter olympics, just ready and waiting if Minnesota blows it.

    Go Vancouver Vikings!

  26. 1liondriven says: Oct 13, 2011 6:55 PM

    GOOD GRIEF! MOVE ALREADY!

    OR

    BUILD THE DAMM THING…

    Before that steaming pile of crap Goodell
    moves you to London!

  27. dadsman28 says: Oct 13, 2011 6:56 PM

    I’ve been a fan of the Vike since the 60′s. While I’d hate to see them move Minnesota does have a history of either losing franchises or pushing them to the brink of leaving. If the area can’t afford to keep them or if the state has higher priorities then perhaps they should move. Sports is a business and that’s what businesses do.

  28. upperdecker19 says: Oct 13, 2011 6:57 PM

    The commish just announced that fans want the Vikings in London, along w/ an 18 game schedule.

  29. snaponrules says: Oct 13, 2011 7:00 PM

    1. L.A.
    2. City of Industry

    Let them move or have the Team/League pay for their own playground. Instead of piling more on the homeowners already living paycheck to paycheck now.

  30. beerandtitties says: Oct 13, 2011 7:01 PM

    Well, I hope the Vikings stay in MN!

    With that said I really, really hope the taxpayers protect themselves.

    With the way the Vikings play I’m about 87.52% positive that within the next 2-3 years the NFL will send them down to the UFL until they can compete on a NFL level. If that happens that will be a lot of money for taxpayers to be on the hook for a UFL team.

    Just look at the signs….this is coming. The Vikings went out and traded for McNabb who arguably could still compete in the UFL!

  31. toes110 says: Oct 13, 2011 7:05 PM

    As a life long viking fan, I have to say that the current ownership has been by far the best we have had.. The Wilfs have been very patient with the state in getting a new stadium.. they have done everything asked of them, A local partner, a location… ect.. now its on the state and Gov. Dayton to get this thing figured out.. the twins got a new place as did the wild a while back.. the Vikings bring more money into the state than both of them combined.. The time is NOW to get this done.. before the Wilfs sell this team to someone who actually will relocate them….

  32. sikoix says: Oct 13, 2011 7:07 PM

    I’ve been as dedicated a fan as they come since the 80′s — born and raised as a Viking fan.

    That said, this has been an awkward situation as an out of state fan (I’ve lived in NYJ/NYG/NE territory most of my life). Obviously, part of me doesn’t want *anything* to change, but part of me is not appreciating how the local politicians are handling this. I don’t follow other MN sports franchises, but even the WNBA seems to have no problem with accomodations.

    Wilf has been a great owner to this point, and I certainly wouldn’t hold any changes against him. *cough* Hartford Whalers.

  33. glac1 says: Oct 13, 2011 7:12 PM

    The Green Bay Packer/ viking rivalry would end. I’m sure St. Louis would move to the NFC North and the vikings to the NFC West. If not, they’d have to reimburse the Packers, Lions and Bears for “extra travel” expense.

  34. baltimoreballs says: Oct 13, 2011 7:13 PM

    As a old time fan of the Baltimore Colts I feel Minnesota’s pain. After going through that you never want any other fan base to experience it. Sorry Cleveland, but at least you got to keep your identity.

  35. damnyoulinelliot says: Oct 13, 2011 7:22 PM

    Duluth?

    That means they can keep the “Minnesota Vikings” name.

  36. Robert says: Oct 13, 2011 7:22 PM

    Contacts:

    1. Los Angeles

    2. Toronto

    3. Des Moines?

  37. 1stngoal says: Oct 13, 2011 7:23 PM

    San Antonio looks to be an intriguing suitor, They’ve already got the AlamoDome waiting for a tenant…

  38. mark921129 says: Oct 13, 2011 7:26 PM

    As a Lions fan, I sure hope the Vikings stay. No community should lose an NFL franchise. The NFC north has some incredible rivalries, which the league needs.

  39. jacunn2000 says: Oct 13, 2011 7:29 PM

    LA is a crap hole that does not deserve a NFL team. They will end up being another Jville blackout out team. Don,t let it happen Vikings!!Besides,is anyone actually really from LA???

  40. commandercornpone says: Oct 13, 2011 7:29 PM

    ladies and gentlemen, i introduce YOUR san antonio vaqueros!

    and north go the rams.

  41. puba76 says: Oct 13, 2011 7:30 PM

    I’d hate to see the Vikings move, but this makes alot of sense if they move to LA. They would enter the west division, and St. Louis would move to the North. I’d say St. Louis makes much more sense in a division with Chicago, Detroit and Green Bay rather than San Fran, Seattle and Arizona! btw, think about the qb’s in that division: Rodgers, Stafford, Cutler and Bradford. Pretty impressive!

  42. dan7800 says: Oct 13, 2011 7:35 PM

    Very sad, but it looks like the Vikings are on their way out.

    Say no to LA

  43. savannahrose44 says: Oct 13, 2011 7:36 PM

    everlong016 says:
    Oct 13, 2011 6:22 PM
    As a Packer fan, I’d hate it if the Vikings moved somewhere else. It’s a really special rivalry going right now, and the biggest reason it’s so great is the regional aspect of it. If the Vikings were to move to, say, Los Angeles, a ton of the heat would be taken out of the rivalry.

    It’s better for the game for the Vikings to stay in Minnesota, so I hope something gets figured out, and quick.

    Better for the Packers you mean. The only thing special about these teams “rivalry” is the Minnesota Vikings rolling over for a belly rub every year.

  44. dionoil says: Oct 13, 2011 7:36 PM

    Apparently there is an actual push for a team in Lincoln, NE. Don’t see it happening though

  45. tombradysponytail says: Oct 13, 2011 7:36 PM

    While it’d obviously be a shame for vike fans if they leave (my wife’s family is still there and I know they’d take it hard if the vikes leave), it’s hard to not make fun of a football town that builds stadiums for the wild, twins, gophers, and I think even the saints are getting a new ballpark, but can’t get it done for the vikes. Pathetic, really.

  46. gdeli says: Oct 13, 2011 7:36 PM

    Now lester will bring in the tough talk. more than one community…It was interesting that the state shut down just ending then the vike’s jump in..now about us. I will just sit back and see what happens but they should be able to stay here. It can be worked out. Just dump mcnabb and start ponder. The season is done so lets have some fun and watch ponder. also make your contribution the #1 team contribution. Yeah, bring it on MN! do it or don’t! bring it to a head..more MN drama geez!

  47. gb4mn0 says: Oct 13, 2011 7:37 PM

    As much as I love to hate the vikequeens, I also would hate to see the team move for nothing more than the hundreds of hours of entertainment I would lose listening to the pathologically delusional, manic-depressive fans that call into KFAN seeking some guidance from the blowviating sports talkers who for years have mis-lead the vike fan base by grossly over-inflating the historical significance to the NFL the vikes have other than them being tied with Buffalo as 4 time SB losers.

  48. rexismybff says: Oct 13, 2011 7:50 PM

    Compton AND Hawthorne?? Very impressive!

  49. football2011 says: Oct 13, 2011 7:53 PM

    Vikings Packers rivalry is over if the Vikings move.

    The LA Vikes will go into the NFC West to set up a new LA-SF rivalry and the St Louis Rams will move into the north.

  50. avaughn02 says: Oct 13, 2011 7:59 PM

    simple as this build it or They leave then u build it neways for a terrible expansion team look at every city ever that didnt build a new stadium. houston cleveland baltimore oakland and la

  51. credible316 says: Oct 13, 2011 8:06 PM

    Oh no, please don’t move this storied franchise from me. With such great leadershi…multiple super bo….”all in” seasons. This franchise is the joke of the nfl. Lets blow it up and start from scratch… signed miserable sports fan in loserville, MN GO LIONS!!!

  52. demonspank says: Oct 13, 2011 8:14 PM

    While I don’t have a dog in this fight, I hope the Vikings stay as it seems they are good supporters.

    That being said, this whole taxpayers being held hostage to finance infrastructure that has been PROVEN to not economically reap the rewards promised needs to stop.

    Every year it seems we wind up with an owner holding their breath around updating a stadium, sometimes because it isn’t the newest in the luxury arms race (e.g. using the Cowboys’ stadium as the benchmark).

    Not to mention, some of these upgrades go horribly wrong like the spaceship that landed in the middle of Soldier Field.

  53. manureman says: Oct 13, 2011 8:18 PM

    we already come so just imagine if you built it

  54. scudbot says: Oct 13, 2011 8:30 PM

    “A rural state like Minnesota cannot afford to carry an NFL team.”

    Green Bay Packers. Heard of them?

  55. philtration says: Oct 13, 2011 8:36 PM

    I hate the Vikings but they belong in Minnesota and they belong in the NFC North.

    I am 49 and it has been Bears, Packers, Lions & Vikings all my life.
    Yes the Bucs were there for a while but that never felt right and it never felt permanent.
    Even though St. Louis is a lot closer to Chicago than Minneapolis it would not be the same and it would feel a lot like playing Tampa twice a year all over again.

  56. scudbot says: Oct 13, 2011 8:43 PM

    Nobody detests pols and inequity more than I do. But you Minnesotans who are standing on principle, if you win you won’t have an NFL team. That’s a pretty high cost to make a point.

  57. mikemnz says: Oct 13, 2011 8:44 PM

    Lester is talking about this years vikings going deep into the post season?

  58. locutus says: Oct 13, 2011 8:49 PM

    Here, let me quote from the deadbeat handbook so we can get it out of the way…

    “No welfare for billionaires”…”Let Zygi pay for it all”…”no taxes for billionaire toys” and on, and on.

    And what would a Viking story be without Packer class?

    johnnyb216 says: Oct 13, 2011 6:42 PM

    Tick tock tick tock… I absolutely love watching all these Viking fans squirm over the thought of their team taking a hike. It is one of my favorite things in the world. I will be so sad when it is all over. But then all ill have to do is think of the 13 world championships the packers won and the zero that the vikings have won and I’ll cheer right up.

    Poor little Johnny. Thinks he is an “owner” who actually had a hand in the championships. Lol

  59. cosanostra71 says: Oct 13, 2011 8:55 PM

    Welcome to la guys!

  60. gopherspushfornitbid says: Oct 13, 2011 8:59 PM

    Minnesota is actually being asked to contribute less than $300 million, so long as clean up of the Arden Hills site avoid overruns. If the Vikings move, it will because the Tea-Partiers in power refuse to raise taxes in any form to fund the project. Easy solution: Take all of the payroll tax revenues generated by professional football in Minnesota and channel it directly into the stadium project. Then the idiots controlling state spending can witness firsthand the value of tax dollars putting citizens back to work.

  61. melsharpels71 says: Oct 13, 2011 9:13 PM

    bobnelsonjr says: Oct 13, 2011 6:37 PM

    More than one community:

    City of Industry
    Los Angeles
    Mexico City
    Guadalajara
    London

    A rural state like Minnesota cannot afford to carry an NFL team. Te NFL francise as to make enough money to build its own stadium.

    The first team South of the Border becomes Mexico’s team and could pick up a whole nation of fans.
    —————-
    Bobby boy…as a Packer fan living in Minnesota I can assure you Minnesota is not a “rural” state…

    Lets see Mayo Clinic, 3M General Mills…. Yeah rural.

    Anyways this is just tactis by the Wilf family to get the stadium done. Dayton will sign the bill, puts jobs in Minnesota, coming up for re-election and people want it but don’t want to pay. When they do build it and I have to pay for stadium, I may just quit my cushy job at Mayo and move back to Wisconsin. I’d hate my taxes to pay for a stadium.

  62. sevensixtwonato says: Oct 13, 2011 9:15 PM

    I am not from Minnesota but live here….this state is run by complete morons. Government shutdowns, failing infrastructure, public officials and national candidates that are just plain embarrassing…And before you Wisconsinites hit the thumbs up let me add that your state is no better…I’ve lived there too.

    I’m a fan of the NFL in general more than any one team so I can really care less if the Vikings leave here, but it’s really unfortunate for any local community to loose such an important part of their culture.

    I personally get the feeling that the Vikings will end up moving on because spending the money to keep the team is going to just proove to be too unpopular.

  63. chris6523 says: Oct 13, 2011 9:16 PM

    A rural state like Minnesota cannot afford to carry an NFL team. Te NFL francise as to make enough money to build its own stadium.

    ________________________________

    Yeah, only in heavily urbanized states such as Wisconsin can an NFL franchise thrive.

  64. gb4ever0811 says: Oct 13, 2011 9:23 PM

    If the Vikings leave, can we transfer the Bengals to the NFC north so the conference can have the Lions, Tigers, and Bears?

  65. warvette says: Oct 13, 2011 9:25 PM

    either move or don’t. either way it’s not too good a deal for the minnesotans, eh?

  66. gb4mn0 says: Oct 13, 2011 9:31 PM

    Bagley is an idiot if he thinks the threat of moving is going to motivate the MN legislature into approving the funding for a new stadium. The legislatures are reluctant to even bring this to a vote because its currently an unpopular proposal because of raising taxes, thus costing some members of the legislature their jobs in the next election. Besides, last week the vikes sold several hundred tickets at $4 to avoid a local TV black out. A disinterested fan base and an unpopular tax increase don’t add up well for the loyal Vike fan base fearful of losing their team.

  67. leatherhelmets says: Oct 13, 2011 9:32 PM

    Does this mean that the Minnesota Jaguars are only a few years away after they figure out their stadium mess?

  68. vikingsinla says: Oct 13, 2011 9:33 PM

    Vikes —> Jacksonville
    Jags —-> Buffalo
    Bills —-> Oakland
    Raiders —-> San Diego
    Chargers —-> St Louis
    Rams —-> Tampa Bay
    Bucs —-> Minny
    Seattle —-> OK CITY (just because)

    Keep the “LA threat” for any other NFL cities reluctant to fund new stadiums.

  69. nahcouldntbethat says: Oct 13, 2011 9:34 PM

    And so the NFL begins it’s “wanna be the NBA” phase with teams moving around desperately looking for big pockets investors and municipalities to help then with their overriding “too many franchises” problem.

  70. vegasgolds says: Oct 13, 2011 9:36 PM

    welcome to Las Vegas…

  71. fremontrambler says: Oct 13, 2011 9:50 PM

    Why do fans commit to NFL teams when the teams and the NFL clearly do not commit to the fans? Moves, blackouts, etc. Why is the NFL always bitch-slapping their customer base?

    Now, as a MN taxpayer, I’m ok with state funds going towards a stadium… provided that Lester Bagley is esconced in the Jimmy Hoffa endzone.

  72. cusoman says: Oct 13, 2011 9:55 PM

    savannahrose44 says:
    Oct 13, 2011 7:36 PM

    Better for the Packers you mean. The only thing special about these teams “rivalry” is the Minnesota Vikings rolling over for a belly rub every year.

    ————————————

    The all time Packers vs Vikings record says otherwise:

    51-48-1

    I’d say that’s a pretty even keeled and successful rivalry. Once again proving Packer fans only THINK they are part of the NFL “master race”, but belong in the waiting room of an Appalachian ER with all the garbage they shove down each others’ throats.

  73. rondo1260 says: Oct 13, 2011 10:14 PM

    It would be cool to see them move to Toronto. The rivalry could survive in the North. Packers and Bears fans can go on hating Vikings fans and the new Vikings fans will feel a mild, courteous dislike towards Packers and Bears fans. We can argue endlessly over which is better: curds or poutine. Sometimes players will have border trouble. Vick will try to hide his weed in a fake water bottle again. All kinds of god times. So let’s keep the Vikings in the North but rid ourselves of Minnesota!

  74. scudbot says: Oct 13, 2011 10:18 PM

    “The all time Packers vs Vikings record says otherwise:

    51-48-1″

    You could have stopped right there. Choke on your season.

  75. vikingsinla says: Oct 13, 2011 10:19 PM

    Packer fans: there’s no reason you should stop hating the Vikings just because they play in LA! They may play home games 2 time zones apart, but nothing sells tickets like a game against a hated rival, so be assured that the NFL will encourage this rivalry when the Vikes org is moved, even if they replace them with the St Louis Rams or some other team. All Packer fans should continue hating the Vikings as if they were still in MN, right on your border, and continue buying merchandise and patronizing our commercial sponsors during Packer games.

  76. pantherpro says: Oct 13, 2011 10:31 PM

    Raider trash?

  77. golonger says: Oct 13, 2011 10:31 PM

    scudbot – not the same dumba$$………the Packers are the only team owned by the fans…….not a true comparison!

  78. bobnelsonjr says: Oct 13, 2011 10:38 PM

    Why would Packers fans want to to rescue the vikings?

    It isn’t a respectful rivalry a like the Bears and Lions, the vikings in their crazed jealousy attack you every chance they get and never ever return a favor.

    You are never getting back all the welfare payments you have made to low revenue vikings or reimbursement for the damage they do to Lambeau’s locker room.

    With a relocation the Packers can get another game a year on natural grass under natural sunshine with more revenue from a larger stadium than a dinky metrodome II.

    This Arden hills idea locks the vikings in NFL poverty for decades.

    The PSL ‘s assure continual blackouts and more payments of NFL welfare, a long bus ride to a real airport for visiting teams after playing on a toxic waste site. Their sportswriters have opposed every Green Bay Packer in the Hall of Fame votes.

    Relocating the vikings to a better market is good for every NFL franchise.

    It is their own fault that the are so unpopular they cannot win a single vote or sell tickets.

  79. kirschmania says: Oct 13, 2011 10:47 PM

    bobnelsonjr- Census combined statistical area called Minneapolis-St. Paul-St. Cloud, MN-WI with a population of 3,604,460 people in 2011, ranked the 15th most populous in the U.S.

    The problem with Minnesota is we’re too busy doling out money for welfare, bike trails and immigrants to worry about sports. As much as I love the Vikes if I was Ziggy, I’d get out of this liberal hell hole.

  80. stellarperformance says: Oct 13, 2011 10:55 PM

    cusoman says: Oct 13, 2011 9:55 PM
    …..Packer fans only THINK they are part of the NFL “master race”, but belong in the waiting room of an Appalachian ER with all the garbage they shove down each others’ throats.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    WTF? I think a comment like this is referred as “jumping the shark.” It’s a stretch.

    But as far as a Master Race in the NFL…(if there were such a thing)….the Packers are front and center, and there’s no denying it.

  81. upnorth123456 says: Oct 13, 2011 10:56 PM

    My vote is for the Vikings to build an “outdoor” natural grass stadium on the Iron Range…maybe Grand Marais MN on the shore of Lake Superior. This would make for GREAT December/January football Bud Grant Style!

  82. stellarperformance says: Oct 13, 2011 10:58 PM

    kirschmania says: Oct 13, 2011 10:47 PM
    The problem with Minnesota is we’re too busy doling out money for welfare, bike trails and immigrants to worry about sports. As much as I love the Vikes if I was Ziggy, I’d get out of this liberal hell hole.
    =====================================

    See ya….(you won’t be missed.)

  83. theravenlives2 says: Oct 13, 2011 11:36 PM

    Why not build the stadium on his own dime?

    ================================
    You guys in Minnesota just crack me up. You most be snorting that snow with the road salt in it. Here’s the question (and I live in a city that has lost a team and taken another):

    Why WOULD HE WANT TO build a stadium on his own dime? He can move to L.A., Toronto, or San Antonio and have the city do it for him…FREE. Would you speed $600 billion if you didn’t have to?

    You guys better wake up. If that lease expires, the Vikings are GONE. Then we’ll hear you all bitch about how unfair life is. If you want the Vikings, pass that bill now. If you don’t, sayanara!

  84. yevrag3535 says: Oct 13, 2011 11:43 PM

    Tampa is looking for a team.

  85. youdownwithjpp says: Oct 13, 2011 11:46 PM

    packattack1967 says:
    Oct 13, 2011 6:23 PM
    Oklahoma City Yaaa Hoooo

    ————————————–

    Rather see real fans in OK than the posh crowd of LA.

  86. scudbot says: Oct 14, 2011 12:21 AM

    golonger says: “scudbot – not the same dumba$$………the Packers are the only team owned by the fans…….not a true comparison!”

    Why the hell not? Packers are profitable.

  87. scudbot says: Oct 14, 2011 12:30 AM

    “The problem with Minnesota is we’re too busy doling out money for welfare, bike trails and immigrants to worry about sports. As much as I love the Vikes if I was Ziggy, I’d get out of this liberal hell hole.”

    Granted, it’s a mess. Unfortunately it’s not a unique mess. But damn. You want to essentially kick your NFL team down the road forever because you’re getting dicked by pols and sleazy deals? Isn’t there something else to try to get control of before you kick your team out?

  88. scudbot says: Oct 14, 2011 12:40 AM

    I don’t get it. Yes, the Packers model has turned out to be nearly ideal and you don’t have that along with all 30 other teams.

    You people are on a football fanatics blog. And you’re wishing your team away because the goddamned pols and corrupt biz people are screwing you. If you don’t give a damn about football why are you here? If you do, do what you can to keep your team and Occupy St. Paul. Raise hell. Kick some bastards out.

    You think that getting rid of your Vikes is going to fix anything else? I don’t get it.

  89. cusoman says: Oct 14, 2011 12:48 AM

    stellarperformance says:
    Oct 13, 2011 10:55 PM

    But as far as a Master Race in the NFL…(if there were such a thing)….the Packers are front and center, and there’s no denying it.

    —————-

    I said Packer fans, not the team. Your hubris knows no bounds.

  90. sevensixtwonato says: Oct 14, 2011 12:52 AM

    stellarperformance says:
    Oct 13, 2011 10:55 PM

    But as far as a Master Race in the NFL…(if there were such a thing)….the Packers are front and center, and there’s no denying it.

    ————————————————–

    I am only guessing but I think he ment that Packer fans more so than others seem to feel that the accomplishments of the Football team they cheer for, are actually their accomplishments too. Its the whole “we did it…we won the Super Bowl” mentality. Where in reality its, “we (the fans) watched on television a team who play their home games in our state that we live in win a championship.”

    Thats what seems to get most people sooooo dumbfounded about Packer fans…so many of them feel such a huge connection to the team that its almost scary. “we did this”….no no you didnt…THEY did that…YOU drank beer and ate nachoes….

  91. scudbot says: Oct 14, 2011 1:03 AM

    Last rant.

    Ever lived in a place where your team was somewhere else? Cowboys fan living in Utah, for instance. It’s kind of like being passionate about a video game.

    There are dozens of places in the US where real football fans would give up some food and even some beer to get an NFL team, even if they can’t afford to go to games. As long as it was there.

    If you honestly don’t want a Minnesota NFL franchise for whatever reason, then assail your corrupt legislators with pleas to not do anything. But if you do, hold their nasty feet to a different fire. Keep your sucka$$ Vikings, hope the Vikes get better, and suck up whatever it takes to keep them.

  92. patpatriotagain says: Oct 14, 2011 1:35 AM

    largest metro areas w/o a team:
    #22 Portland, OR
    #25 San Antonio, TX
    #26 Orlando, FL
    #36 Virginia Beach, VA
    #49 Birmingham, AL
    #50 Salt Lake City, UT

  93. pattersonconsulting says: Oct 14, 2011 1:42 AM

    Just remodel the dome. You don’t need a shiny new stadium and you could probably remodel the dome with just Ziggy’s 400 million.

    And don’t tell me about tailgating…700 million dollars of taxpayer money is too much to pay for tailgating.

  94. freedomispopular says: Oct 14, 2011 2:14 AM

    Just dissolve the team. With one less team in the league, there won’t be quite as much of a talent disparity between the top and bottom teams.

  95. imko4t says: Oct 14, 2011 3:30 AM

    Just sign a new 20 year lease on the dome there thats fixed.

  96. staffordsyear says: Oct 14, 2011 5:50 AM

    From where im from (upper north part of the country) i dont think vikings fans would even care if they moved. They only show up when their winning and “showing up” is a stretch… remember the 09 nfc championship game? i counted 8 vikings fans at the sports bar for that game and 0 throughout the whole season.
    Dumbest,naive,no passion fans ive ever seen. I do have to admit that i like seeing them on the bottom though but when you mismanage a team like matt millen you can see it coming… and they are fun to make fun of,always has been.

  97. bresilhac says: Oct 14, 2011 6:43 AM

    It’s San Antonio baby, San Antonio! Isn’t it obvious? With the stadium plans crumbling away in Los Angeles who else has a viable Dome ready to host the NFL now? The only other place that comes to mind is Toronto. But Toronto is not a very good NFL town. The Bills play there at least once a year and the attendance and enthusiasm for those games are lousy to say the least.

    San Antonio on the other hand is so hungry for NFL football that it’s ridiculous. These are loyal, diehard, rabid fans we’re talking about here too. Not the fair weathered variety the Vikings would have in LA.

  98. squared80 says: Oct 14, 2011 7:42 AM

    The Vikings brass, namely Wilf, has been very mum on and ultimatums about moving the team. It didn’t work for the North Stars, and it didn’t work for the Twins (Target Field was approved MANY years after owner Carl Pohlad’s threat). I think the team has been VERY patient throughout this whole process. Anyone who thinks the Vikings will move probably don’t know anything about the franchise. They sell out every game, and the NFL would have a VERY hard time approving the move when so much progress has been made on the stadium front. It’s a matter of when it will be approved, not if. And no, the team isn’t going anywhere. Guaranteed. Anyone who thinks otherwise is naive or ignorant. Hey, maybe both.

  99. furedmccombs says: Oct 14, 2011 8:05 AM

    @bobnelsonjr says:
    Oct 13, 2011 6:37 PM
    More than one community:

    City of Industry
    Los Angeles
    Mexico City
    Guadalajara
    London

    A rural state like Minnesota cannot afford to carry an NFL team. Te NFL francise as to make enough money to build its own stadium.

    The first team South of the Border becomes Mexico’s team and could pick up a whole nation of fans.

    First off the Twin Cities market is a top 15 market in the US and there are 32 teams. Not to mention there are usually 5 suburbs in the top 10 places to live in this country. Minnesota may be the “State of Hockey” but make no mistake the Vikings are the team here.

    You think the NFL doesn’t like what’s going on in the Bay area at games? Just wait until Mexico City gets involved…the owners will ask for a bigger cut to help pay for the security details needed. That being said, I do think it will eventually happen for the growth of the sport, but it won’t be the Vikes.

    They’ll stay…why do you think the county committee voted down a referendum vote?

  100. vikefan says: Oct 14, 2011 8:18 AM

    WE love you, you must stay!!! WE love you, you must stay!!! To all of you pricks saying the fans dont deserve them, FO!!!!!

  101. The Phantom Stranger says: Oct 14, 2011 8:33 AM

    gb4mn0 says:
    Oct 13, 2011 9:31 PM
    Bagley is an idiot if he thinks the threat of moving is going to motivate the MN legislature into approving the funding for a new stadium. The legislatures are reluctant to even bring this to a vote because its currently an unpopular proposal because of raising taxes, thus costing some members of the legislature their jobs in the next election. Besides, last week the vikes sold several hundred tickets at $4 to avoid a local TV black out. A disinterested fan base and an unpopular tax increase don’t add up well for the loyal Vike fan base fearful of losing their team.
    _____________

    First, no state funding plan has been put forward so we don’t know if there will be state tax increases. Second, you’re drunk if you think legislators won’t be voted out of office if the Vikings move. People who are passionate about the Vikings will be much more motivated to vote people out of office than will people who are passionate about avoiding a miniscule tax increase. Third, the Vikings did not sell several hundred tickets for $4 to avoid a blackout. There were a handful of single tickets in the worst part of the stadium that were available for $4 on stubhub.

  102. furedmccombs says: Oct 14, 2011 9:24 AM

    pattersonconsulting says:
    Oct 14, 2011 1:42 AM
    Just remodel the dome. You don’t need a shiny new stadium and you could probably remodel the dome with just Ziggy’s 400 million.

    And don’t tell me about tailgating…700 million dollars of taxpayer money is too much to pay for tailgating.

    Where are you getting your numbers? the state contribution is $300 million. Have you ever been to a game at the dome? My guess is not, because there is no help for that $h!t hole!

    The biggest issue is all of the anti-gambling people trying to stop the racinos and a downtown Casino Hotel bills to help create revenue for building the stadium.

  103. ruthinia says: Oct 14, 2011 10:44 AM

    I’ve been a Viking fan since the 69-70 season . Even though I left the state in 77, I’ve never strayed from my loyalty though the “love boat” incident was a bit much and I was tempted to switch my loyalty to the Colts as I was living in Indy at the time. But I stayed with them. I guess my question to the good citizens of Minnesota is : Don’t you realize what a great investment this is for your state? Think of all the jobs it’ll create, the money that will be poured into your state because of the events that will take place there. I know the economy stinks, but in not going for this, you’re just making a bad situation that could turn into a great situation, that much worse. If the Vikes have to move , well sorry to say, but shame on you.

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