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Santana Moss wants to catch passes from Grossman, not Beck

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The Washington Redskins’ leading receiver doesn’t want to change quarterbacks.

Santana Moss, who leads the team with 23 catches this season, said this morning that he thinks there is “no question” that Rex Grossman should remain the starter, even though he threw four interceptions before he was benched for John Beck on Sunday against the Eagles.

In fact, Moss is surprised that Redskins coach Mike Shanahan is even considering moving Beck above Grossman on the depth chart.

That’s something that shouldn’t even be asked,” Moss said. “He deserves another shot. [Michael] Vick threw four picks last week and came back and played a hell of a game this week. Tom Brady threw four two weeks ago. I feel for the flow of the game yesterday it worked. It got a spark by bringing Beck in. That’s the luxury when you have two good quarterbacks. Beck can come in and do his thing when you need him, but I feel like you can’t give up on a guy because he had a bad outing.”

Beck played well off the bench on Sunday, completing eight of 15 passes for 117 yards and using his feet to score the Redskins’ only touchdown of the game. Based on what they did against the Eagles, it’s no contest: Beck should be the man.

But Moss thinks it’s too soon to make that decision.

“You just got give the man a shot,” Moss said. “If he don’t deserve it, we all would know. But you can’t go back further than [Sunday] and say well he didn’t give us a shot. We won those games. We lost one game before yesterday. You have to give the guy a shot. If he doesn’t succeed, do what needs to be done.”

In the next day or two, Shanahan may decide that what needs to be done is to bench Grossman for Beck, even if the Redskins’ No. 1 receiver doesn’t like it.

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48 Responses to “Santana Moss wants to catch passes from Grossman, not Beck”
  1. Little Earthquake says: Oct 17, 2011 2:22 PM

    If he wants to catch passes from Grossman, he should sign with the Redskins’ opponent every week.

    Okay – who else is going to write something like that? The joke writes itself.

  2. suckleague says: Oct 17, 2011 2:22 PM

    “Santana Moss wants to catch passes from Grossman, not Beck”

    Did he move to cornerback?

  3. tenotnamedmiller says: Oct 17, 2011 2:23 PM

    Get traded to the Eagles and switch to DB.

  4. JackLeone says: Oct 17, 2011 2:23 PM

    So does this mean if Beck is the starting QB, he won’t catch the passes? C’mon man….

  5. tommccrossin says: Oct 17, 2011 2:24 PM

    While Grossman definitely isn’t Michael Vick or Tom Brady…. neither is John Beck

  6. sweetnlow44 says: Oct 17, 2011 2:28 PM

    Title of article is clearly misleading. He doesn’t say he’d rather catch passes from one or the other, he even says Beck is a good qb. All he’s saying is he thinks Rex deserves another shot.

  7. prior0knowledge says: Oct 17, 2011 2:31 PM

    OH NO! My favorite player on the Redskins has now bashed my 2nd favorite player on the Redskins!

  8. esposito35 says: Oct 17, 2011 2:32 PM

    I cant believe Beck is even an option….have any of you actually viewed his skills?

  9. bigjdve says: Oct 17, 2011 2:37 PM

    Why does anyone care what Santana Moss thinks in this situation?

    I mean really comparing Rex Grossman to Vick or Brady? Let’s try a real comparison

    Brady’s Line : 16 tds 8 ints, 0 fumbles. 104.8 rating

    Vick’s Line : 9 tds, 8 ints, 1 fumble, 84.4 rating – this didn’t include rushing TDs, or the fact that he has been playing hurt.

    Grossman’s Line : 6 tds, 9 ints, 2 fumbles, 66.5 rating

    Yup that is a real comparison there. The other 2 QBs are breaking even or having a positive turnover ratio, while Sexy Rexy’s is significantly negative. More to the point, this has been Rex’s issue throughout his career, not just this season. Santana – just catch the ball. I mean didn’t you do your part to help Rex when you let the ball hit your hands and go right to a Cowboy a couple weeks ago?

  10. 4thandnone says: Oct 17, 2011 2:38 PM

    Vick can come back and have a hell of a good game because when he is on, he is outstanding. Grossman couldn’t be outstanding if the defense only put 7 guys on the field.

  11. whathappenedtovox says: Oct 17, 2011 2:39 PM

    I’m not sure I see anything in Moss’ quotes where he says he doesn’t want to catch passes from Beck.

  12. phinfan says: Oct 17, 2011 2:41 PM

    Beggers can’t be choosers.

  13. londonfletcher says: Oct 17, 2011 2:43 PM

    I was going to make a joke, but everybody beat me to it.

    Seems to me that if Moss wanted to score, then he wouldn’t want half of Grossmans passes to get picked. Just sayin’.

    I say Beck. I doubt he’ll throw 4 interceptions in one game…or maybe he will, in which case we’ll be in the same boat we’re in now.

  14. dolphins4 says: Oct 17, 2011 2:43 PM

    The Eagles safety Coleman likes catching passes from Grossman too.

  15. hendawg21 says: Oct 17, 2011 2:45 PM

    Ok did I or did I not just leave a comment which I saw and now it’s gone…what gives???

  16. skinzfan21 says: Oct 17, 2011 2:46 PM

    Santana actually has a good point, in a weird looking way! Two interceptions were actually fred davis’s fault…….if he comes away with either of those catches its a totally different ball game! On the other hand, same rule applies if Rex gets those balls out when he had receivers behind the defense

  17. omnipresentfan says: Oct 17, 2011 2:48 PM

    “Do what needs to be done” said the great Santini.
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    Moss has a point. The skins need to do what needs to be done and draft a frigging QB. Until they do that, talented teams like the Eagles will continue to put them in their place… Both Grossman and Becky are simply teasers. As soon as you start to believe in them, they prove wrong wrong wrong…em…wrong!!!!

  18. hendawg21 says: Oct 17, 2011 2:50 PM

    skinzfan21 says:
    Oct 17, 2011 2:46 PM
    Santana actually has a good point, in a weird looking way! Two interceptions were actually fred davis’s fault…….if he comes away with either of those catches its a totally different ball game! On the other hand, same rule applies if Rex gets those balls out when he had receivers behind the defense

    AGREED…every game i’ve seen on replay where if Rex had gotten the ball out quicker the receiver had an easy play on the ball, not sure why he’s holding it so long just know i’m always yellling get it out, get it out… because the longer he holds onto it the more likely hood of INT…or fumble!

  19. freedomispopular says: Oct 17, 2011 2:52 PM

    I agree with him. Grossman’s been playing pretty decent all season. You can’t throw him out after one bad game.

  20. forrealplayas says: Oct 17, 2011 2:53 PM

    guys get real if its beck or grossman everyone in the western hemisphere knows we dont have a QB or anything close to just one! so it really dooesnt matter who back there…. poor play calling and stupid mistake is something this team cant come back from and the 0 cover blitz is killing me

  21. golonger says: Oct 17, 2011 2:54 PM

    yeah…he conveniently forgets that Brady is a proven winnier……while Grossman is a proven loser……..dellusional comparison!

  22. golonger says: Oct 17, 2011 2:55 PM

    ..its not like Grossman all of a sudden has a problem with throwing INTs……please…..wake up!

  23. realdeal12 says: Oct 17, 2011 2:58 PM

    So this morning in my car I heard a certain Sirius host use the word “talent” and “Grossman” in the same sentence. I thought I was going to have a heart attack I was laughing so hard.

  24. soulsouldier says: Oct 17, 2011 3:03 PM

    It’s a little different when you actually have a relationship with the guys throwing you the ball. Moss knows Rex isn’t spectacular, but doesn’t want his brother, who’s been going to battle with him, taken away from a job he earned.

  25. cuda1234 says: Oct 17, 2011 3:03 PM

    So Beck completed 50% of his passes and failed to rally the team to a win? I thought only Tim Tebow got praised for crappy numbers like that. Grossman or Cutler would be buried by the media for numbers like that!

  26. lucky5934 says: Oct 17, 2011 3:03 PM

    Well, he can simply ask Eagle Safety, Kurt Coleman, what that is like since Coleman caught more passes from a Redskins QB than Santana did.

  27. dmaziuk says: Oct 17, 2011 3:05 PM

    I dont really care who starts, I just enjoy some drama in DC. It’s been too long.

  28. My Last Victim Escaped says: Oct 17, 2011 3:06 PM

    I thought the Redskins were on their way to proving the doubters wrong? Isnt this what happened last year before they lost 4 straight?

  29. bigcarguy1 says: Oct 17, 2011 3:11 PM

    Please leave Rex as the starter!!
    signed-
    Carolina Panthers

  30. nebster21 says: Oct 17, 2011 3:12 PM

    we all know how many times Brady has been in the Super Bowl. We all know how many times Grossman has been in the superbowl.

    So how many times has Vick been in the Superbowl?

    Is that the same number of Superbowls that the Eagles have?

  31. therealsmiley says: Oct 17, 2011 3:13 PM

    We’re 3-2 with a crappy QB. Time for Beck. Hail!!

  32. cowboyhater says: Oct 17, 2011 3:13 PM

    skinzfan21 says: Oct 17, 2011 2:46 PM

    Santana actually has a good point, in a weird looking way! Two interceptions were actually fred davis’s fault…….if he comes away with either of those catches its a totally different ball game! On the other hand, same rule applies if Rex gets those balls out when he had receivers behind the defense

    =======================================

    Fred Davis’ fault!! Wow, I’m a huge skins fan, but I’m not disillusioned either. Rex tries to squeeze these throws into double and triple coverages, and Fred was tightly covered on both interceptions. Rex thinks he has the arm to put his passes into tight spaces, and is hurting this team by continually trying to do so. He just does not have the ability to do this, and the receivers only run the routes that are called. Rex can’t keep guessing where his receivers are going to be, and throwing them under the bus for his weak arm. Get real dude! Rex is not a NFL caliber QB, bottom line!!

  33. blackqbwhiterb says: Oct 17, 2011 3:33 PM

    Rex made several bad decisions, as he does every week. He made the one Gaffney caught, but the picks were balls thrown into double and triple coverage, which only 6’5″ guys like Calvin Johnson or Plaxico Burrress can get. He never should have thrown them, but thinking a little deeper, is the play calling questionable here? Seems so to me. Kyle should call plays which favor his players’ strengths, and the overall strength of the team is to run, and the overall passing strength is the short to medium range game, given who is on this roster.

  34. skinzfan21 says: Oct 17, 2011 3:43 PM

    Well if you dont wanna hear it from me go ask Fred David himself! He’s one of my favorite players on the team but if he wants to be elite he has to come down with those balls…….Vernon Davis or Antonio Gates comes down with those

  35. tiger2471 says: Oct 17, 2011 3:45 PM

    I am so DONE with Rex Grossman! This is the worst QB I’ve ever seen; how can you be a starting NFL QB while throwing AT LEAST 2 interceptions a game. Damnit start Beck, hell I’d rather see him struggle than start Rex Grossman EVER again! I mean Beck can AT LEAST scramble and move up in the goddamn pocket! Grossman has been a QB for 9 years now and he hasn’t learned how to move in the pocket or even throw to a moving target! He SUCKS!!!!!!!

  36. granadafan says: Oct 17, 2011 3:45 PM

    *sniff, “Really unfair. That’s my teammate. That’s my quarterback.” *Sniffle*

  37. waltdawg says: Oct 17, 2011 4:43 PM

    Man! Those first 4 comments were classic and rolling off the tip of my fingers! Ya’ll beat me to it. Hail Skins! We need help….Moss, C’mon man! You have to know Grossman cannot be mentioned in the same sentence as Brady….That is a paradox

  38. ihatethejets23 says: Oct 17, 2011 4:45 PM

    “[Michael] Vick threw four picks last week and came back and played a hell of a game this week. Tom Brady threw four two weeks ago. ”

    Both against the Bills. I expect 4 or more INTs against either stiff the Redskins put out there in 2 weeks against the Bills.

  39. kinggw says: Oct 17, 2011 5:10 PM

    Beck is on the bench for a reason. He just isnt that good. Yes he can scramble but he also cant throw the ball down the field more than 15 yards. If Beck was any good he would still be on the Ravens or Dolphins roster.

  40. tiger2471 says: Oct 17, 2011 5:25 PM

    kinggw says: Oct 17, 2011 5:10 PM

    Beck is on the bench for a reason. He just isnt that good. Yes he can scramble but he also cant throw the ball down the field more than 15 yards. If Beck was any good he would still be on the Ravens or Dolphins roster.
    ________________________________

    Apparently you didn’t see the seam route pass to Austin that setup the ONLY TD we had.

  41. rarson says: Oct 17, 2011 5:41 PM

    I agree with Moss. If Grossman has one bad game (a game which ANY NFL quarterback has occasionally), the answer is not to destroy what confidence he may have still had by shoving him down the depth chart, especially when your team still has a winning record. And especially when your backup is Beck.

    Remember the Brady Quinn/Derrick Anderson back and forth when Mangini was coaching Cleveland? Or Vince Young/Kerry Collins in Tennessee? Switching quarterbacks early and often never works. Whomever they decide to pick needs to finish up the season (barring injury), and given that Grossman has already won 4 games, this seems like a no-brainer to me. Shanahan will prove how much of an idiot he really is on Wednesday if he announces that Beck is the starter.

  42. pabillsfan says: Oct 17, 2011 5:58 PM

    [Michael] Vick threw four picks last week and came back and played a hell of a game this week. Tom Brady threw four two weeks ago.

    ***********************************************

    Who did they both throw those picks to? Who do the skins play soon if not next? Buffalo. Could be some thinking behind this.

  43. bigbluefan1 says: Oct 17, 2011 6:30 PM

    Moss wants
    First did not know he was still playing thought he left with his useless brother

    Second who cares what he wants when he spends the money and buys a team then he can say what he wants and it means something

    Deadskins are right back where we all knew they would be

    Yes they got lucky week one see you soon

  44. kevpft says: Oct 17, 2011 6:31 PM

    For what it’s worth, the time since Grossman last started in a Super Bowl is only one year longer than the time since Brady last started in a Super Bowl.

    And, of course, we know how many Super Bowl starts Vick has. And he hasn’t even won a playoff game since ’04.

    But we know who’s a star, right? Woohoo!

  45. vereynn says: Oct 17, 2011 7:31 PM

    Santana has to be kidding, right? Rex Grossman wasn’t benched after “one bad game”, he was benched after four-and-two-thirds bad games. His quarterback rating is now 32nd of 33 among “qualified” QBs at a pathetic 66.5, with 9 INTs and 6 TDs. If you include everyone who’s thrown a pass in the NFL this year, he’s 45th of 57.

    When Grossman isn’t throwing more balls to the other team than to his team, yeah, he hits his receivers for good yardage. But averaging almost 2.5 turnovers per game (with those lost fumbles included) he’s more dangerous to his team than he is to the opposition.

    Since Passer Rating isn’t always a sure indicator of actual performance, let’s look at the other stats: 29th overall pass completion (55.8%), 22nd in yards/attempt (6.9) and touchdowns (6). With yesterday’s performance, even his best stat, Yds/Game, is 22nd (226).

    Grossman “won” the starting job this year when Beck had “one bad game” in the pre-season. By those standards, Beck should have started 3 games already so far.

    Rex Grossman isn’t the worst QB in the league, but he’s way the heck down in the bottom third (at best).

    Vick and Brady earned their “keep the start after 4 INTs” because those were anomalies in their careers (as opposed to just barely worse than average performances; Rex in his career averages over 1 INT per game played (49:46), more INTs than TDs (same ratio) and 0.4 Fumbles lost/game played), and because they’ve thrown more TDs than INTs even with those picks. Career averages for these two? Brady: 0.75 INT/G, 277:111 TD/INT. Vick: 0.6 INT/G, 101TD/66INT.

    Using Rex Grossman’s name in the same context as Brady and Vick should only be done in the context of identifying them all as people getting paid to be NFL quarterbacks.

  46. brj1212 says: Oct 17, 2011 8:27 PM

    We all know it honestly DOESNT matter who is back there for this season. The skins got off to a nice start but we are not expected to be a serious contender this year.

    With either Beck or Grossman we honestly can’t expect to compete with the GBs or the NEs. So this argument doesnt matter to me.

    What I have seen so far is the pieces we have gotten are working. The D looks young and much improved. We still have work to do but a big improvement from previous years.

    The O line is getting better and we have options at RB. We need to address the QB situation and WR situation to be a serious contender. I think we will be a 6-9 win team this year so I think we are out of the Luck and Blackmon sweepstakes but I like the direction we are heading.

    But lets be honest, we are not there yet so this argument isn’t that big of a deal.

    Hail.

  47. richm2256 says: Oct 17, 2011 10:06 PM

    “That’s something that shouldn’t even be asked,” Moss said. “He deserves another shot. [Michael] Vick threw four picks last week and came back and played a hell of a game this week. Tom Brady threw four two weeks ago.
    ———————————————————

    Yeah, Santana, without a doubt Rex Grossman is clearly Tom Brady’s equal.

    Somebody check this moron for a concussion.

  48. dawkattack says: Oct 18, 2011 12:42 AM

    So Does Kurt Coleman Share The Ball Santana lol

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