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		<title>By: paulieorkid</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/17/week-six-monday-10-pack-2/#comment-1332658</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[paulieorkid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2011 13:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with joshuavkidd who said on Oct 17, 2011 9:15 AM:

&quot;This is what the NFL has become??? Lets make sure we take the player out of the game because he may or may not have hit his head? Seriously? And we can now diagnose a concussion based on the television coverage??? This is why the game is the way it is now. 15 yard flag every 5 minutes because a QB gets his pants dirty or god forbide a WR gets smacked by a safety. Congrats to all of you for slowly but surely turning the game into an intramural sport.&quot;

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Exactly.  And PFT bangs the drum the loudest, preaching that players should be suspended (not just fined).   They should listen to Mark Schlereth&#039;s take --- much better reasoned than PFT always trying to wussify the league.

Anothe example:  PFT says the &quot;NFL got it wrong&quot; on how the Schwartz/Harbaugh was &quot;swept under the rug by the NFL.&quot;  They write 9,000,000 articles on Harbaugh/Schwartz - and then claim they want such provocative moments permanently extinguished.

Then there&#039;s the Turd Watch, where PFT shines the 500 Watt Lights on whatever person is merely charged of something.  It doesn&#039;t have to be proven true.  Only the accusation is enough for the big headline to read &quot;Turd Watch Back Down to Zero.&quot;  Anyone remember that?

Another beef.  PFT&#039;s positions are always voiced from ONE person but ONE who claims &quot;WE&quot; think...,&quot; &quot;OUR&quot; position here is ...&quot;, &quot;WE here believe ...&quot;  

So why can&#039;t the author of an opinion just OWN it?  Does everyone on staff agree about everything?  Does PFT expect us to believe they have meetings ahead of time to establish a consensus take?  Just own it - rather than hiding in the crowd by cloaking the writer&#039;s views as those held of a unfailingly united crowd.  Don&#039;t you people have differing opinions amongst yourselves?

Finally, this comment will be censored.  PFT likes to criticize the heck out of everything and everyone.  PFT, however, does not appreciate criticism coming their way --- though they do post a few poorly written rants, knowing such crackpot expressions will be harmless to them.  Kind of hypotical to to bash everyone, and then keep a lid when someone offers fair criticism your way, isn&#039;t is?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with joshuavkidd who said on Oct 17, 2011 9:15 AM:</p>
<p>&#8220;This is what the NFL has become??? Lets make sure we take the player out of the game because he may or may not have hit his head? Seriously? And we can now diagnose a concussion based on the television coverage??? This is why the game is the way it is now. 15 yard flag every 5 minutes because a QB gets his pants dirty or god forbide a WR gets smacked by a safety. Congrats to all of you for slowly but surely turning the game into an intramural sport.&#8221;</p>
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<p>Exactly.  And PFT bangs the drum the loudest, preaching that players should be suspended (not just fined).   They should listen to Mark Schlereth&#8217;s take &#8212; much better reasoned than PFT always trying to wussify the league.</p>
<p>Anothe example:  PFT says the &#8220;NFL got it wrong&#8221; on how the Schwartz/Harbaugh was &#8220;swept under the rug by the NFL.&#8221;  They write 9,000,000 articles on Harbaugh/Schwartz &#8211; and then claim they want such provocative moments permanently extinguished.</p>
<p>Then there&#8217;s the Turd Watch, where PFT shines the 500 Watt Lights on whatever person is merely charged of something.  It doesn&#8217;t have to be proven true.  Only the accusation is enough for the big headline to read &#8220;Turd Watch Back Down to Zero.&#8221;  Anyone remember that?</p>
<p>Another beef.  PFT&#8217;s positions are always voiced from ONE person but ONE who claims &#8220;WE&#8221; think&#8230;,&#8221; &#8220;OUR&#8221; position here is &#8230;&#8221;, &#8220;WE here believe &#8230;&#8221;  </p>
<p>So why can&#8217;t the author of an opinion just OWN it?  Does everyone on staff agree about everything?  Does PFT expect us to believe they have meetings ahead of time to establish a consensus take?  Just own it &#8211; rather than hiding in the crowd by cloaking the writer&#8217;s views as those held of a unfailingly united crowd.  Don&#8217;t you people have differing opinions amongst yourselves?</p>
<p>Finally, this comment will be censored.  PFT likes to criticize the heck out of everything and everyone.  PFT, however, does not appreciate criticism coming their way &#8212; though they do post a few poorly written rants, knowing such crackpot expressions will be harmless to them.  Kind of hypotical to to bash everyone, and then keep a lid when someone offers fair criticism your way, isn&#8217;t is?</p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/17/week-six-monday-10-pack-2/#comment-1332190</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2011 03:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@dwhitehurst ...

Hi! Guess the NFL agreed with you, but I have mixed feelings about the whole thing. Part of me thinks the coaches should have been left to work it out on their own. But if Goodell were being consistent, he&#039;d have fined both of them at least a token amount to send a message regarding their personal conduct on the field. It does irk me knowing he &lt;em&gt;would&lt;/em&gt; have fined two players in the same circumstances.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@dwhitehurst &#8230;</p>
<p>Hi! Guess the NFL agreed with you, but I have mixed feelings about the whole thing. Part of me thinks the coaches should have been left to work it out on their own. But if Goodell were being consistent, he&#8217;d have fined both of them at least a token amount to send a message regarding their personal conduct on the field. It does irk me knowing he <em>would</em> have fined two players in the same circumstances.</p>
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		<title>By: dwhitehurst</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/17/week-six-monday-10-pack-2/#comment-1331454</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dwhitehurst]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 21:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Exactly Deb.  (How you doin by the way?)

I mean, in a court of law, the interpretation of the video evidence available regarding this altercation would be nothing but &quot;subjective&quot;, at least in the case of Harbaugh.  

And as we&#039;re seeing here in the case of some journalists, what on video looked like a pat on the back has now been given a &quot;shoved completely out of the way&quot; spin.  

While I do &#039;believe&#039; that Harbaugh should have toned it down a notch, even in that there is no &quot;irrefutable evidence&quot; according to the video we can see.  

Hence, without &quot;irrefutable evidence&quot;, how can you fine Harbaugh?  Like we&#039;re saying, if the league fines Harbaugh for that, then if I were a head coach I would never &quot;risk&quot; shaking the opposing coach&#039;s hand after the game, especially if our team had won the game!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly Deb.  (How you doin by the way?)</p>
<p>I mean, in a court of law, the interpretation of the video evidence available regarding this altercation would be nothing but &#8220;subjective&#8221;, at least in the case of Harbaugh.  </p>
<p>And as we&#8217;re seeing here in the case of some journalists, what on video looked like a pat on the back has now been given a &#8220;shoved completely out of the way&#8221; spin.  </p>
<p>While I do &#8216;believe&#8217; that Harbaugh should have toned it down a notch, even in that there is no &#8220;irrefutable evidence&#8221; according to the video we can see.  </p>
<p>Hence, without &#8220;irrefutable evidence&#8221;, how can you fine Harbaugh?  Like we&#8217;re saying, if the league fines Harbaugh for that, then if I were a head coach I would never &#8220;risk&#8221; shaking the opposing coach&#8217;s hand after the game, especially if our team had won the game!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/17/week-six-monday-10-pack-2/#comment-1331364</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 21:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;Given that the example set by the NFL trickles down to all other levels of the sport, the league needs to make a strong statement that coaches who act like overgrown kindergartners will be dealt with swiftly and severely.&lt;/em&gt;

Completely agree with you, but you&#039;re candy-coating the past a little bit. As a Steelers fan, I&#039;m awestruck by Chuck Noll. Love Cowher, adore Tomlin, but Noll is &lt;em&gt;the man&lt;/em&gt;. However, he did not shake hands with opposing coaches after games, win or lose. And no one cared. Nothing that happened between Harbaugh and Schwartz comes close to Buddy Ryan punching Kevin Gilbride in the face during that 1997 Oilers game. (Yeah, maybe the Ryans are to blame for it all ;) )

Maybe the answer is to stop the handshake tradition. Your thoughts on that?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Given that the example set by the NFL trickles down to all other levels of the sport, the league needs to make a strong statement that coaches who act like overgrown kindergartners will be dealt with swiftly and severely.</em></p>
<p>Completely agree with you, but you&#8217;re candy-coating the past a little bit. As a Steelers fan, I&#8217;m awestruck by Chuck Noll. Love Cowher, adore Tomlin, but Noll is <em>the man</em>. However, he did not shake hands with opposing coaches after games, win or lose. And no one cared. Nothing that happened between Harbaugh and Schwartz comes close to Buddy Ryan punching Kevin Gilbride in the face during that 1997 Oilers game. (Yeah, maybe the Ryans are to blame for it all <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  )</p>
<p>Maybe the answer is to stop the handshake tradition. Your thoughts on that?</p>
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		<title>By: dwhitehurst</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/17/week-six-monday-10-pack-2/#comment-1330922</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dwhitehurst]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 18:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If Harbaugh gets fined for being &quot;insensitive&quot;, then if I&#039;m a head coach in the NFL, I would refuse to shake hands with the opposing head coach at all after the game. I mean, you could potentially get fined if he accuses you of &quot;not looking at him&quot;, &quot;looking at him the wrong way&quot;, or &quot;shaking his hand too hard&quot; or &quot;not shaking his hand long enough&quot;, or &quot;patting him on the back&quot; or &quot;not patting him on the back&quot;, etc., etc.,]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Harbaugh gets fined for being &#8220;insensitive&#8221;, then if I&#8217;m a head coach in the NFL, I would refuse to shake hands with the opposing head coach at all after the game. I mean, you could potentially get fined if he accuses you of &#8220;not looking at him&#8221;, &#8220;looking at him the wrong way&#8221;, or &#8220;shaking his hand too hard&#8221; or &#8220;not shaking his hand long enough&#8221;, or &#8220;patting him on the back&#8221; or &#8220;not patting him on the back&#8221;, etc., etc.,</p>
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		<title>By: Packernet</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Packernet]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 18:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just cause you got your bell rung doesn&#039;t mean you have a concussion. How stupid. Only thing dumber is talking about the Packers winning three in a row before they even win two in a row.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just cause you got your bell rung doesn&#8217;t mean you have a concussion. How stupid. Only thing dumber is talking about the Packers winning three in a row before they even win two in a row.</p>
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		<title>By: war27</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/17/week-six-monday-10-pack-2/#comment-1330391</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[war27]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 16:12:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Concussion solution: sign a waiver

Any player that signs it plays. If the coaching staff thinks he&#039;s still right enough in the head and can get it done and the players wants to play put him in the game.

They get paid millions to play a sport, think of it as hazard pay.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Concussion solution: sign a waiver</p>
<p>Any player that signs it plays. If the coaching staff thinks he&#8217;s still right enough in the head and can get it done and the players wants to play put him in the game.</p>
<p>They get paid millions to play a sport, think of it as hazard pay.</p>
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		<title>By: drshakedown74</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[drshakedown74]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 15:56:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Eagles can match up with the Pack.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eagles can match up with the Pack.</p>
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		<title>By: radrntn</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[radrntn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 15:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i think raiders need to sign back up until Pryor can get a few more weeks of pratice, At least until  after the bye week , so maybe 3 weeks from now. I would just play Boller next week and pound the ball w/ Mc Fadden, and Bush,.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think raiders need to sign back up until Pryor can get a few more weeks of pratice, At least until  after the bye week , so maybe 3 weeks from now. I would just play Boller next week and pound the ball w/ Mc Fadden, and Bush,.</p>
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		<title>By: drshakedown74</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[drshakedown74]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 15:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Philly gets a bye week....then 3 home games.  Lets hear the tune when the Iggles are 5-4.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Philly gets a bye week&#8230;.then 3 home games.  Lets hear the tune when the Iggles are 5-4.</p>
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		<title>By: teddybear9</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/17/week-six-monday-10-pack-2/#comment-1330201</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[teddybear9]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 15:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You know what, here&#039;s what you don&#039;t understand concerning whether Grossman plays or not.  IT&#039;S NOT YOUR CALL. Maybe he shouldn&#039;t , maybe he should, but you have been calling for his benching from the start. I think you really have something against him.  That&#039;s the only thing I hate about this site, you can&#039;t just report on things, you sit there and make &quot;proclamations&quot;  like you are the god of all football. How bout letting owners, gm&#039;s and coaches make the decisions and you can just report on them, and if you give an opinion make sure you do it in a way that reflects it&#039;s JUST YOUR OPINION.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know what, here&#8217;s what you don&#8217;t understand concerning whether Grossman plays or not.  IT&#8217;S NOT YOUR CALL. Maybe he shouldn&#8217;t , maybe he should, but you have been calling for his benching from the start. I think you really have something against him.  That&#8217;s the only thing I hate about this site, you can&#8217;t just report on things, you sit there and make &#8220;proclamations&#8221;  like you are the god of all football. How bout letting owners, gm&#8217;s and coaches make the decisions and you can just report on them, and if you give an opinion make sure you do it in a way that reflects it&#8217;s JUST YOUR OPINION.</p>
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		<title>By: geniusfan</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 15:17:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Green Bay is really good but hardly unbeatable they looked vulnerable against the Falcons, Saints, and even the Panthers.

Heck the Panthers could have and should have beat them.

Anybody looks good against teams like Denver and the Rams.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Green Bay is really good but hardly unbeatable they looked vulnerable against the Falcons, Saints, and even the Panthers.</p>
<p>Heck the Panthers could have and should have beat them.</p>
<p>Anybody looks good against teams like Denver and the Rams.</p>
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		<title>By: drshakedown74</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[drshakedown74]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 14:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Love the Vick hating.  Keep it coming.  Philly will be 10-6.......watch.  I still see players drop/twitch.....and return to games all the time.  How about bringing up why the helmet to helmet hits on Vick aren&#039;t getting called!!!!!  If you think I&#039;m wrong, roll the Washington footage and see it AGAIN for yourself.  Yes, Vick is dumb....we know.  BUT&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;he does play QB in this &quot;touch football&quot; league, and I think if this is ANY other QB.....the flags are flying.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love the Vick hating.  Keep it coming.  Philly will be 10-6&#8230;&#8230;.watch.  I still see players drop/twitch&#8230;..and return to games all the time.  How about bringing up why the helmet to helmet hits on Vick aren&#8217;t getting called!!!!!  If you think I&#8217;m wrong, roll the Washington footage and see it AGAIN for yourself.  Yes, Vick is dumb&#8230;.we know.  BUT&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;he does play QB in this &#8220;touch football&#8221; league, and I think if this is ANY other QB&#8230;..the flags are flying.</p>
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		<title>By: bucksnbengals11</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bucksnbengals11]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 14:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Terrelle Pryor broke the rules and rather than stay and face the music like he said he would, took the cowards&#039; way out. He deserves whatever punishment the NFL metes out.  

Carson Palmer spent probably the best years of his career with the Bengals and did so without complaining.  He deserves a second chance with whoever wants to give him one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terrelle Pryor broke the rules and rather than stay and face the music like he said he would, took the cowards&#8217; way out. He deserves whatever punishment the NFL metes out.  </p>
<p>Carson Palmer spent probably the best years of his career with the Bengals and did so without complaining.  He deserves a second chance with whoever wants to give him one.</p>
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		<title>By: m2karateman</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[m2karateman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 14:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[angrycorgi says: 
Oct 17, 2011 9:20 AM 
Jim Schwartz is a sore loser, nothing more. How else do you explain the same guy that makes snide remarks about his opponents in post-game interviews now crying about someone not giving him what he perceives as adequate respect? This is also the guy who whines about Suh being targeted by the refs. Newsflash: If you guys would train Suh not to tackle people by the helmet and attempt to put after-the-whistle wrestling moves on QBs, maybe he wouldn’t get labeled as dirty. The coaching staff for the lions is a total joke.
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First off, anyone calling Schwartz a sore loser doesn&#039;t know recent history.  Schwartz has been with this team for three season now, and in his first two seasons he&#039;s lost 24 games...and this never happened.  So, that argument is just plain crap.

Secondly, I don&#039;t condone what Schwartz did.  I actually have lost some respect for him as a result, and I am a Lions fan.  But Harbaugh went overboard.  The handshake being too hard, as he tried to explain, was not the issue.  What was the issue was his &quot;slap on the back&quot; which was actually him shoving Schwartz out of the way.  That was disrespectful and petty.  You can&#039;t call it anything else but that.  Schwartz has gone through his share of losing without any of these issues.  However, Harbaugh has a history of acting like a d-bag, at times.  I think this is another one of those times.

I think both coaches acted like kids, and both should be punished.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>angrycorgi says:<br />
Oct 17, 2011 9:20 AM<br />
Jim Schwartz is a sore loser, nothing more. How else do you explain the same guy that makes snide remarks about his opponents in post-game interviews now crying about someone not giving him what he perceives as adequate respect? This is also the guy who whines about Suh being targeted by the refs. Newsflash: If you guys would train Suh not to tackle people by the helmet and attempt to put after-the-whistle wrestling moves on QBs, maybe he wouldn’t get labeled as dirty. The coaching staff for the lions is a total joke.<br />
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First off, anyone calling Schwartz a sore loser doesn&#8217;t know recent history.  Schwartz has been with this team for three season now, and in his first two seasons he&#8217;s lost 24 games&#8230;and this never happened.  So, that argument is just plain crap.</p>
<p>Secondly, I don&#8217;t condone what Schwartz did.  I actually have lost some respect for him as a result, and I am a Lions fan.  But Harbaugh went overboard.  The handshake being too hard, as he tried to explain, was not the issue.  What was the issue was his &#8220;slap on the back&#8221; which was actually him shoving Schwartz out of the way.  That was disrespectful and petty.  You can&#8217;t call it anything else but that.  Schwartz has gone through his share of losing without any of these issues.  However, Harbaugh has a history of acting like a d-bag, at times.  I think this is another one of those times.</p>
<p>I think both coaches acted like kids, and both should be punished.</p>
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		<title>By: baddegg</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 13:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I said I&#039;d come back Monday to take my lumps if the Redskins went down, so hear I am.  That said, yeah, it&#039;s probably Beck time in D.C.  The bigger issue here is really that the team has improved from last year -- particularly on defense (20 points total and zero points vs. Eagles in second half is not bad, IMO) but the team definitely needs a QB who is not currently on the roster.  Fortunately, it&#039;s a deep QB class next year.   The Shans need to let go and draft someone this year for sure.  I&#039;m still thinking 8-8 is a possibility for the skins and if so, it could still be a decent rebuilding year.

Congrats Eagles...you finished.  But with Rex throwing 4 picks, it may be concerning that you only held on for a 7 pt win...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I said I&#8217;d come back Monday to take my lumps if the Redskins went down, so hear I am.  That said, yeah, it&#8217;s probably Beck time in D.C.  The bigger issue here is really that the team has improved from last year &#8212; particularly on defense (20 points total and zero points vs. Eagles in second half is not bad, IMO) but the team definitely needs a QB who is not currently on the roster.  Fortunately, it&#8217;s a deep QB class next year.   The Shans need to let go and draft someone this year for sure.  I&#8217;m still thinking 8-8 is a possibility for the skins and if so, it could still be a decent rebuilding year.</p>
<p>Congrats Eagles&#8230;you finished.  But with Rex throwing 4 picks, it may be concerning that you only held on for a 7 pt win&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: gadgetdawg</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 13:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The players and the teams will not take concussion rules seriously when they get to &#039;evaluate&#039; the injured player. They both have too much at stake in continuing to allow the injured player to play. The team has their record and the player has to worry about having his &#039;toughness&#039; questioned. 

Please don&#039;t tell me about the players later health problems. I know they are horrible but few people (in the heat of the moment) think that far in the future.

The league has to have a physician of their own present to evaluate a possibly concussed player. Otherwise get rid of the concussion rules. It only penalizes teams that play by the rules and encourages more of them to skirt the rules. My vote is for the first option.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The players and the teams will not take concussion rules seriously when they get to &#8216;evaluate&#8217; the injured player. They both have too much at stake in continuing to allow the injured player to play. The team has their record and the player has to worry about having his &#8216;toughness&#8217; questioned. </p>
<p>Please don&#8217;t tell me about the players later health problems. I know they are horrible but few people (in the heat of the moment) think that far in the future.</p>
<p>The league has to have a physician of their own present to evaluate a possibly concussed player. Otherwise get rid of the concussion rules. It only penalizes teams that play by the rules and encourages more of them to skirt the rules. My vote is for the first option.</p>
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		<title>By: suhnami</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 13:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh yea and the Raiders need to sign David Garrard to come in and let Pryor sit and watch. Don&#039;t make an &quot;Al move&quot; and send away more draft picks (that you don&#039;t have) for Carson Palmer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yea and the Raiders need to sign David Garrard to come in and let Pryor sit and watch. Don&#8217;t make an &#8220;Al move&#8221; and send away more draft picks (that you don&#8217;t have) for Carson Palmer.</p>
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		<title>By: cschick2317</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 13:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#7...not too early to consider 3 super bowls? Seriously?  I love the pack as much as anyone, but it&#039;s WAY to early to talk about 3 super bowls.  I think it&#039;s even a bit early to talk about winning this year&#039;s super bowl.  

Yes they are playing pretty good, but I&#039;d like to see the defense step it up a little more on the pass coverage before I start thinking we&#039;re a shoe-in to win this years super bowl.  We may be 6-0...but I&#039;m going to hold off on saying &quot;best team this year&quot; until we play the chargers and lions and win convincingly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#7&#8230;not too early to consider 3 super bowls? Seriously?  I love the pack as much as anyone, but it&#8217;s WAY to early to talk about 3 super bowls.  I think it&#8217;s even a bit early to talk about winning this year&#8217;s super bowl.  </p>
<p>Yes they are playing pretty good, but I&#8217;d like to see the defense step it up a little more on the pass coverage before I start thinking we&#8217;re a shoe-in to win this years super bowl.  We may be 6-0&#8230;but I&#8217;m going to hold off on saying &#8220;best team this year&#8221; until we play the chargers and lions and win convincingly.</p>
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		<title>By: suhnami</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[suhnami]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 13:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Harbaugh told Schwartz to &#039;F**K OFF&#039;  as he &quot;patted&quot; him on the back...that&#039;s what set him off, and understandably so. 

I&#039;m a Western Michigan Alum and avid UofM fan, and have NEVER liked the Harbaugh&#039;s. Within Michigan they&#039;ve never had that solid of support because ALL of them have always been pompous, arrogant, and rubbed many within their own &quot;circles&quot; the wrong way. 

The Michigan following is devout and its tough to find may &quot;michigan men&quot; that the fans don&#039;t like or at least give the benefit of the doubt with...but the Harbaughs are and have always been an exception.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harbaugh told Schwartz to &#8216;F**K OFF&#8217;  as he &#8220;patted&#8221; him on the back&#8230;that&#8217;s what set him off, and understandably so. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m a Western Michigan Alum and avid UofM fan, and have NEVER liked the Harbaugh&#8217;s. Within Michigan they&#8217;ve never had that solid of support because ALL of them have always been pompous, arrogant, and rubbed many within their own &#8220;circles&#8221; the wrong way. </p>
<p>The Michigan following is devout and its tough to find may &#8220;michigan men&#8221; that the fans don&#8217;t like or at least give the benefit of the doubt with&#8230;but the Harbaughs are and have always been an exception.</p>
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		<title>By: pastabelly</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 13:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Trading deadline is not too early.  It may be too late.  If I were Miami and Indy and in the suck for luck sweepstakes, I&#039;d accumulate draft picks and clear roster out of average/overpaid players that help you win some games.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trading deadline is not too early.  It may be too late.  If I were Miami and Indy and in the suck for luck sweepstakes, I&#8217;d accumulate draft picks and clear roster out of average/overpaid players that help you win some games.</p>
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		<title>By: namestim</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 13:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[tinkletinkleonyourstar says: 
Oct 17, 2011 9:15 AM 
not being a fan of either team, here is my unbiased and unsolicited two cents.
schwartz is a sore loser.
the worst thing that can be said about harbaugh is maybe he was a little zealous in his handshake.
he did absolutely nothing that warranted schwartz to come after him like that.”

I&#039;m also a neutral party and I have to agree with you here,  I saw nothing done purposely to piss off Schwartz.  Looking at it, I&#039;d say Harbaugh was just so excited that he never saw Schwartz come up to him until the last second and by then it was too late to slow down his celebration so he just shook his hand and kept moving.  Then Schwartz, being a sore loser, lost his cool and blew up about it for whatever reason.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tinkletinkleonyourstar says:<br />
Oct 17, 2011 9:15 AM<br />
not being a fan of either team, here is my unbiased and unsolicited two cents.<br />
schwartz is a sore loser.<br />
the worst thing that can be said about harbaugh is maybe he was a little zealous in his handshake.<br />
he did absolutely nothing that warranted schwartz to come after him like that.”</p>
<p>I&#8217;m also a neutral party and I have to agree with you here,  I saw nothing done purposely to piss off Schwartz.  Looking at it, I&#8217;d say Harbaugh was just so excited that he never saw Schwartz come up to him until the last second and by then it was too late to slow down his celebration so he just shook his hand and kept moving.  Then Schwartz, being a sore loser, lost his cool and blew up about it for whatever reason.</p>
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		<title>By: namestim</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 13:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This little situation between Harbaugh and Schwartz should make the playoff game between Detroit and San Francisco very, very interesting.

My money goes on the Lions in round two...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This little situation between Harbaugh and Schwartz should make the playoff game between Detroit and San Francisco very, very interesting.</p>
<p>My money goes on the Lions in round two&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: angrycorgi</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 13:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jim Schwartz is a sore loser, nothing more.  How else do you explain the same guy that makes snide remarks about his opponents in post-game interviews now crying about someone not giving him what he perceives as adequate respect?  This is also the guy who whines about Suh being targeted by the refs.  Newsflash: If you guys would train Suh not to tackle people by the helmet and attempt to put after-the-whistle wrestling moves on QBs, maybe he wouldn&#039;t get labeled as dirty.  The coaching staff for the lions is a total joke.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim Schwartz is a sore loser, nothing more.  How else do you explain the same guy that makes snide remarks about his opponents in post-game interviews now crying about someone not giving him what he perceives as adequate respect?  This is also the guy who whines about Suh being targeted by the refs.  Newsflash: If you guys would train Suh not to tackle people by the helmet and attempt to put after-the-whistle wrestling moves on QBs, maybe he wouldn&#8217;t get labeled as dirty.  The coaching staff for the lions is a total joke.</p>
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		<title>By: tatum064</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 13:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[steelerdynasty2010 says:
Oct 17, 2011 8:39 AM
10. ???? did i just read that right? did you guys just try to compare dalton and newton to TERELLE PRYOR!?!?!? are you serious? Pryor’s not gonna be ready in 5 years, let alone 5 weeks.
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I think they were going off of Gruden&#039;s appraisal of Pryor on &quot;QB Camp&quot;. There are some Raiders beat writers that feel the same way ... buzz here is they may even bring in two quarterbacks, because they&#039;re uncomfortable with the possibility of Pryor being the backup this early into it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>steelerdynasty2010 says:<br />
Oct 17, 2011 8:39 AM<br />
10. ???? did i just read that right? did you guys just try to compare dalton and newton to TERELLE PRYOR!?!?!? are you serious? Pryor’s not gonna be ready in 5 years, let alone 5 weeks.<br />
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I think they were going off of Gruden&#8217;s appraisal of Pryor on &#8220;QB Camp&#8221;. There are some Raiders beat writers that feel the same way &#8230; buzz here is they may even bring in two quarterbacks, because they&#8217;re uncomfortable with the possibility of Pryor being the backup this early into it.</p>
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		<title>By: clayswife</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 13:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[7.  It’s the Packers, a gap, and everyone else.

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Don&#039;t jinx us!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>7.  It’s the Packers, a gap, and everyone else.</p>
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<p>Don&#8217;t jinx us!</p>
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		<title>By: joshuavkidd</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 13:15:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is what the NFL has become??? Lets make sure we take the player out of the game because he may or may not have hit his head?  Seriously?  And we can now diagnose a concussion based on the television coverage???  This is why the game is the way it is now.  15 yard flag every 5 minutes because a QB gets his pants dirty or god forbide a WR gets smacked by a safety.  Congrats to all of you for slowly but surely turning the game into an intramural sport.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is what the NFL has become??? Lets make sure we take the player out of the game because he may or may not have hit his head?  Seriously?  And we can now diagnose a concussion based on the television coverage???  This is why the game is the way it is now.  15 yard flag every 5 minutes because a QB gets his pants dirty or god forbide a WR gets smacked by a safety.  Congrats to all of you for slowly but surely turning the game into an intramural sport.</p>
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		<title>By: tinkletinkleonyourstar</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 13:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[not being a fan of either team, here is my unbiased and unsolicited two cents.
schwartz is a sore loser.
the worst thing that can be said about harbaugh is maybe he was a little zealous in his handshake.
he did absolutely nothing that warranted schwartz to come after him like that.

as billy the kid once said...&quot;take your medicine son&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not being a fan of either team, here is my unbiased and unsolicited two cents.<br />
schwartz is a sore loser.<br />
the worst thing that can be said about harbaugh is maybe he was a little zealous in his handshake.<br />
he did absolutely nothing that warranted schwartz to come after him like that.</p>
<p>as billy the kid once said&#8230;&#8221;take your medicine son&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: jrmbadger</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 13:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If Vick did get a concussion, isn&#039;t that his third this year?  Shouldn&#039;t people be thinking about shutting him down for his long term health?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Vick did get a concussion, isn&#8217;t that his third this year?  Shouldn&#8217;t people be thinking about shutting him down for his long term health?</p>
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		<title>By: pjhurley5</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 13:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with bleedgreen...Vick showed absolutely no concussion symptoms after coming back in. I think if you&#039;re really that suspicious about all of this stuff, you need to put a person from the league office on every medical team for each team to investigate concussions...otherwise you&#039;ll just never know...

Also, the fact that Vick has a visor on the top half of his face mask doesn&#039;t stop dirt from flying up into his face through the other parts, does it? I don&#039;t think it&#039;s that far-fetched to imagine that happening when you&#039;re skidding with your face mask on the ground. However, I totally understand your completely irrational need to take digs at the Eagles every time you write about them....oh wait...I think I was missing a &quot;don&#039;t&quot; in that statement. Use some logic please.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with bleedgreen&#8230;Vick showed absolutely no concussion symptoms after coming back in. I think if you&#8217;re really that suspicious about all of this stuff, you need to put a person from the league office on every medical team for each team to investigate concussions&#8230;otherwise you&#8217;ll just never know&#8230;</p>
<p>Also, the fact that Vick has a visor on the top half of his face mask doesn&#8217;t stop dirt from flying up into his face through the other parts, does it? I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s that far-fetched to imagine that happening when you&#8217;re skidding with your face mask on the ground. However, I totally understand your completely irrational need to take digs at the Eagles every time you write about them&#8230;.oh wait&#8230;I think I was missing a &#8220;don&#8217;t&#8221; in that statement. Use some logic please.</p>
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