Vikings bench Donovan McNabb, Christian Ponder will start

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Christian Ponder is in and Donovan McNabb is out in Minnesota.

Vikings head coach Leslie Frazier has chosen Ponder as the team’s starting quarterback, Jason La Canfora of NFL Network reports.

The decision comes just six games into a season in which Frazier had insisted McNabb was his starter. But with the Vikings at 1-5 and McNabb not playing well, it was time for Minnesota to see what Ponder, this year’s first-round draft pick, could do.

The Vikings are now the third team in the last year and a half to give up on McNabb: The Eagles traded McNabb to the Redskins to make room for Kevin Kolb, the Redskins benched McNabb to make room for Rex Grossman, and now the Vikings are benching McNabb to make room for Ponder.

Given that the Eagles later jettisoned Kolb for Michael Vick, and the Redskins may bench Grossman for John Beck this week, Ponder might need to be a little worried that he’ll get benched for Joe Webb. Being McNabb’s successor hasn’t been easy the last couple years.

And being McNabb hasn’t been easy the last couple years either.

159 responses to “Vikings bench Donovan McNabb, Christian Ponder will start

  1. Halle-freaking-lujah. I think Christian has what it takes, but even if he doesn’t, I’m far more content with watching a rookie make some bad throws than an “established veteran.” Let the Christian Ponder era commence!

  2. I honestly thought McNabb could do something. But after 39 yards on week 1, I’ve been screaming at the tv every game:

    “START. THE. ROOKIE!”

  3. Had to be done. I couldn’t stand to see another one hopper. Huge mistake by Vikings for even bringing him in in the first place. Guy is well beyond washed up.

  4. Well, Ponder is going to have a tough task at hand, who knows maybe the coaches will finally be able to put players in a position to succeed.

    Chilly understood when T-Jack was starting (before Favre) that they probably had one of the best RBs in the game, so if the Packers D can keep AP in check, I like GBs chances to win.

  5. SKOL! McNabb is going to become a whiny cancer now. They better cut him.

    I do hope Ponder does well. Even though they heavily reached for him in a panic move, he looked impressive in the preseason.

    I just can’t believe they’re throwing him out there before facing my beloved Packers 2/3 games, or whatever it is! He’s going to get destroyed.

  6. Is it true that McNabb’s response was:

    “I look forward to going out there and starting this week and helping our team win….I am the starter. I have been to 5 NFC championship games…my mechanics are perfect….I will now go run the first team offense in practice…thanks.”

  7. I’m ok with Ponder starting, but they need to find a way to get Webb on the field. He’s too talented to waste on the bench.

  8. After Clay Matthews gets done with him, he’ll be flipping the bird at his own teammates for sending him out there.

  9. the crappy part is that we can’t suck bad enough to get the number one pick…what a sad predicament

  10. Don’t know how I feel about this, let me “Ponder” it for a moment…ha…ha..ha…HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA!

  11. McNabb had a very good (not great) prime, but now it’s just hard to watch him out there. I hope he rides off into the sunset soon and gets a classy sendoff.

  12. Come on people – Webb is NOT a QB. He could make an excellent deep threat receiver if they would take the time to transition him! If you haven’t seen his vertical jump, look it up on YouTube. He could replace some of what we’re missing without Sidney Rice if they would actually commit to him. C’mon Vikes!

  13. Don’t think McNabb is solely to blame, but he was part of the problem. It just makes sense to start the kid at this point. You’re not going to the playoffs, and you need to find out what you have in Ponder for next year. If McNabb is not resigned to a backup role for the remainder of his career, then he should retire.

  14. You made a good point without realizing it: McNabb isn’t actually the problem. If the guys replacing McNabb get benched soon after replacing McNabb – the problem lies with the team.

    Football is the ultimate team sport, don’t forget that. McNabb isn’t Tom Brady, but he’s pretty good, otherwise he wouldn’t keep getting chances from people who know how to evaluate QBs.

    I know its fun (for some) to pile on McNabb for whatever reason, but he’s above average. If Minn wants to check out what they have in Ponder, so be it. But don’t everybody act like McNabb is some kinda scrub, he’s a good QB and a good person who’s never embarrassed the NFL off the field…

  15. Poor kid is going to get eaten alive this week. Not exactly fair to set him up to fail, but I suppose it’s part of the transition to the Ponder era. It is time Donovan goes back to Campbell’s chunky.

  16. You know you’re getting old when you clearly remember the day McNabb got selected in the draft and the end of his career today.

  17. Honestly I knew Mcduds career was done like 3 years ago. I honestly feel he was always overrated and never really did anything above average.

  18. No QB, not even Aaron Rodgers, can do anything with the vikings offensive line. if you bench McNabb, you better have benched the entire o-line. McNabb wasn’t the cause of their loss: the offensive line was. McNabb threw a couple in the dirt, but later on, he start zipping the ball well. but then their line lost 2 starters, and he couldn’t move without 3 bears in his face. if they can’t understand you need pass protection, then theydeserve the horrid QB performance they are getting.

    and that also directly corrlelates to the flaccid performance of Peterson sunday. you going to bench him too?

    learn how to pass protect, vikings. until then, enjoy humiliation and QB musical chairs.

  19. francheyes says: “the crappy part is that we can’t suck bad enough to get the number one pick…what a sad predicament”

    Keep hope alive. You’re only one game out in the Luck sweepstakes race to the bottom.

  20. I guess we can count on Charles Woodson for at least one more pick 6 this weekend to add to his hall of fame career numbers.

  21. I remember hearing the “McNabb bounce pass” comments going into the season and thinking to myself ‘He can’t really be THAT inaccurate, can he?’
    McNabb … your line sucked, you had no one who could catch, and your coordinator might have Alzheimer’s but this is your own fault.

  22. This is a sorry attempt to lessen the blow of lavender fan base after getting rolled by the 13 time NFL Champs this Sunday.

    I just heard PA on KFAN announce that Target is running a special on vike logoed security blankets and pacifiers. Plus the grounds crew at M o A Field is pledging to keep every available corner in the building clean so the queen rubes can roll up in these corners, insert pacifier, throw blanket over their head and shiver!

  23. It’s the right move for an organization that was always plugging holes. This starts a new era for them. I feel for Leslie Frazier – I think he’s a good coach, but will he have the time and support there? I hope so.

    Ponder was a surprise pick, but he has the tools to work in a Bill Musgrave offense, which doesn’t require elite arm strength, but good accuracy, and good ability to process information.

    There’s a lot of work they need to do. The OL looks like it needs to be revamped soon. They are running on re-treads opposite Harvin at WR (Berrian, Aromashodu, and Jenkins – not saying they don’t have talent, but at this stage of their career, as your 2nd option, they won’t provide that much). I imagine the rest of this season is going ot be a lot of Peterson and Gerhart, but they’ve got to be careful not to wear out Peterson on a lost season. I look for Jenkins to get a bigger role, as he should know the offense a bit better and is the bigger, more physical type of WR that they might need to move the chains.

    The defense is still solid, but it is aging.

    As for McNabb, it’s about the end of the road. With the bad press he’s had in Washington and Minnesota, I don’t know who is going to take a chance on him as a starter, and I wonder if he’ll be too proud to come off the bench. That said, some guys have a tough time hanging it up, and there’s enough bad QB’s in the league that perhaps some coach wonders if they can find something there. Still, maybe it’s time to move on to the next stage of his career, whatever that may be.

  24. RIP to McNabb’s career. It’s been a good run but it is now painful to see one pass after another right into the turf. Without a good team to cover for his mistakes and poor mechanics, he’s hit the wall fast and hard.

  25. The Vikings again trading draft picks, for players they use for less than half a season.

    Not the best way to build a team. I think its starting to catch up with them.

  26. Straight to Canton in 5 years, despite the fact that he was at best the 5th best QB in his era…..Politics

  27. ok- so they now have a starting QB. when will they start playing a starting CB, FS, RG?

    next up- blame the coach time…. McNabb didnt let 60 points go up this week.

  28. stellarperformance–“After Clay Matthews gets done with him, he’ll be flipping the bird at his own teammates for sending him out there.”

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    IF Matthews (now new-and-imroved, and HGH free!) does manage to sack Ponder on Sunday (distinctly possible given the Vikes’ pathetic o-line) it will only be Matthews SECOND sack through seven games.

  29. bmue42 says:
    Oct 18, 2011 2:27 PM
    bahahahahahahaha
    what a joke of a franchise

    go packers
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    Okay, so let me get this straight…..

    Vikings don’t use 1sr-rd pick on a QB since Culpepper
    Packer fan response: What a joke of a franchise
    Then….
    Vikings use a 1st-rd pick on a QB
    Packer fan response: What a joke of a franchise

    In absence of quality young QB, Vikings use veteran FAs
    Packer fan response: What a joke of a franchise
    Then….
    Vikings bench veteran FA and start rookie 1st-rd pick
    Packer fan response: What a joke of a franchise

    Give Packer fans credit for consistency, at least

  30. ok so everyone keeeps saying that matthews will eat him up….well if you watched the bears game they were blitzing pretty heavy…he can move..and matthews and his what 2 sacks?? doesnt really kill it against the vikes usually….though our line sucks i have faith in ponder!!!! SKOL vikes

  31. stellarperformance says:
    Oct 18, 2011 2:23 PM
    After Clay Matthews gets done with him, he’ll be flipping the bird at his own teammates for sending him out there.
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    Clay has 2 sacks this season…yea im not concerned. Rodgers should be more worried about Jared Allen than the Vikings should be about Clay.

    Also, why is it that all Vikings articles bring out the packer trolls?

  32. Last year when McNabb was benched, some members of the media screamed that the coach at the time was racist.

    I am guessing we will hear the same reaction this year from those members of the media, am I correct?

  33. Ponder, you’re facing the Packers this week. Someone who knows a bit about replacing McNabb and then facing the Cheese wants to talk to you…Kevin Kolb is calling.

  34. But you don’t need to change your game, McNabb. Nah. They’re all just haters. Don’t listen to them.

  35. Good Move! Granted he may get embarrassed this Sunday, but he’s a smart, athletic kid who will play much better than Fatty McButter Pants. At least on Sunday night he hit his receivers in stride so they could get some YACs. Mcfatty was always throwing the ball too low or behind them so they couldn’t get any additional YACs.

  36. Where will he land next…you know the guy won’t retire. He should realize that he is now in the backup mode of his career and try to latch onto a winning team. Then if he gets a chance to play on a good team he can show that he still has nothing left. Then, maybe, he will realize that it is him, not them and retire.

    Don’t embarrass yourself again, go enjoy your money!

  37. Donovan is a great family man and has a boatload of cash. Now is time to sail into the sunset. I hope the eagles sign him at the end of the season and let him retire as and eagle. I have always loved you Donovan and best of luck in your retirement.

  38. Now let’s hear from Mike Wilbon and all the other McNabb apologists who insisted that he got a raw deal in Philly, then Washington. Those of us who watched him every game of his career, and not just on national broadcasts, saw this coming from a mile a way. But we didn’t know what we were talking about.

  39. As a Vikings fan, I’m very excited to see Ponder and feel this move came at least 2 weeks too late. It’s time to see what he’s got.

    I do feel for McNabb though. He has been a great QB throughout his career, handled everything with class, and always taken the high road. He has been under appreciated, and overly criticized his entire career. It’s time for him to retire, and I hope people recognize how great his career as a whole was.

  40. Now you see what us Eagles fans had to deal with for first decade of the 2000s. McNabb still doesn’t want to change his biggest weakness, his accuracy. You can change your zip code a thousands times, your problem(s) will always follow you.

  41. Well it can’t hurt. At least we will see what we have in this guy. My hunch is that he will be mediokre at best and we will find that the bright mind of Rick Spielman made another draft bust and that we will be left trying to trade this guy and hopefully getting a new Coach / GM and drafting Andrew Luck to set up the future and go into our new Mecca in Arden Hills.

    Go Vikes!!

  42. Well considering McNabb is one of the least classy pieces of dog dung in the league I am glad to see his career end in disgrace. Now instead of picking up the phone on the Giants side line it looks like he will have to pick up his phone to tell his agent he’s retiring… and retiring a loser who never won a thing… Good riddance

  43. I think McNab needs to go. I looked up the vikings salary figures and he is making over $7 million this year. WTF !? My wife is a teacher and hasn’t had a raise in 8 years but this load makes $7 M in one year ! what is wrong with our society when a washed up QB get millions for doing nothing but good teachers make $40k/year and don’t see a raise for a decade. makes me sick.

  44. This increases the Vikings’ probability of beating the Packers this week from 0.0001 to 0.05, which is a huge improvement. If McNabb started, the whole team would be deflated, the fans would be booing the whole time, and it would be even more negative than last year’s game that led to Chilly getting fired. With Ponder, the team will get some energy, they’ll probably work harder in practice to fix the mistakes they made against Chicago, and everyone will probably be more conscious of doing their best to make up for the rookie. Green Bay may take them lightly, too.

    Oh, and Ponder is a better passer than McNabb.

  45. Ummmm……

    The Packers have all of 15 sacks for the season, against teams that have given up a total of 87 sacks (and two of the teams have only played 5 games…). Ponder was not sacked in 18 dropbacks at a time when the defense was expecting the pass on every down. The Vikings are sure to try to pound the ball against a defense that gives up 4.1 YPC.

    What exactly makes you think Ponder will get beat on?

  46. McNabb just acquired one of the best jobs in the country, along with a complimentary front row seat.

  47. Yeah, it’s been real hard being McNabb, conning teams out of millions of dollars for doing nothing.

  48. Is it just me or does trbowman make the second dumbest comments next to 7thlombardiontheway? These people remind me of vaginal cookie grease, liked by nobody.

  49. It’ll be a tall order for the young qb on Sunday, but I hope that he plays well and gains valuable experience.

    As to you Packer trolls….I didn’t think it was humanly possible, but you are now more obnoxious then Steeler trolls. Congratulations!! Job well done!!!

  50. I usually don’t talk trash and yes, I think the Packers are the best team in the NFL right now. But if for some reason Minnesota pulls a miracle and wins, I will be on here talking so much junk to all the d-bag Packer fans(not the classy, intelligent Packer fans). The Vikings are far from the worst franchise in football and we have a great owner as well. So we will see Sunday!

  51. Looking forward to week 13 — Broncos V. Vikings.. Tebow vs. Ponder … Nice UF vs. FSU rivalry tie in there.

  52. Yes, the offensive line is weak, but McNabb made them look even worse by taking sacks when he could have easily thrown the ball away. That combined with not throwing passes beyond 10 yards, will not win many games.

    I want to see Ponder throw the ball deep down the field….with teams stacking the box to stop AP, receivers will get open.

  53. I don’t dislike the move, but I still think Joe Webb needs to get a shot behind center. Besides, Ponder was injury prone during his college years, and how likely is he to stay healthy with that OL?

    Webb can run. Chances are, Ponder will be injured before Thanksgiving. Both of these guys need to get a shot to show what they’ve got.

  54. Ponder may be the next Steve Young or the next Brooks Bollinger.He does not have a John Elway arm but it is adequate. All the speculating means nothing. He will either show starting potential or the Vikings may be drafting a WB in 2012.

  55. McNabb is getting benched after only 6 weeks, and Webb isn’t getting a shot despite leading the Vikings over the Eagles last year. Webb and McNabb are both black. Ponder is white. It doesn’t take a genius to see why it went down this way.

  56. Chunky isn’t just a soup.

    Should have showed up in shape McNabb. Sad because you had moments of your old self. Just way too out of shape to keep it up for a whole game.

    That safety was your season in a microcosim.

  57. Even McNabb’s own mom doesn’t believe in him. Sunday night football cut to a clip of his own mom leaving the stadium after he was benched. Donovan, bounce passes work in basketball not football.

  58. Can’t say i’m shocked. Too bad for Ponder he has to begin his tenure against the queen’s biggest rival aka the best team in the NFL. They’re basically sticking him between a rock and a hard place. This is nightmarish, desperate and typical from franchises who don’t care about BUILDING a successful team. Structure is not a step you skip.

  59. I predict that Ponder will complete 20+ passes. He’ll throw for 2 TDs and 2 INT. Throw for 280-320 yards. He’ll look like he can play.

    The Vikings will still lose by 2-3 TDs.

  60. contra74 says:
    Oct 18, 2011 2:48 PM

    Also, why is it that all Vikings articles bring out the packer trolls?
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    For the same reason all Packers articles bring out the viking trolls. That’s what we do. It’s expected of us now.

  61. 4thandnone says:
    I looked up the vikings salary figures and he is making over $7 million this year. WTF !? My wife is a teacher and hasn’t had a raise in 8 years but this load makes $7 M in one year ! what is wrong with our society when a washed up QB get millions for doing nothing but good teachers make $40k/year and don’t see a raise for a decade. makes me sick.
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    Can your wife throw a corner fade into double coverage?

  62. cursedvikingfan says:
    The Vikings are far from the worst franchise in football and we have a great owner as well. So we will see Sunday!

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    The Vikes are one caboose away from a train wreck. Don’t get so excited.

  63. Has there EVER been a bigger WHINER QB than McNabb?

    Repeat after me: McNabb is NOT a HOFer.

    Not even close.

  64. It’s not gonna make any difference with our lousy O-line and WRs, particularly against the Pack. He hasn’t had any first team reps for 5 weeks, and his success against the Bears was in garbage time against their scrubs. I would’ve waited till after the bye week, but it’s not like there’s a possibility to turn the season around, so what the hey.

  65. I feel a tinge of divine justice coming on… rookie QB starts his first NFL game against his team’s hated rivals, who are cruising along in the season and still undefeated. It’s setup almost TOO perfect. I think Ackbar said it best: “It’s a trap!”

    Honestly, do I really believe they have a chance? No, my feet are planted firmly on the ground, but it sure is a nice thought that happens to be keeping me interested in this season/game, and that’s the biggest factor in this move – keeping the fans entertained, and McNabbaburger just wasn’t delivering there.

  66. briang123 says:
    Oct 18, 2011 3:42 PM
    McNabb is getting benched after only 6 weeks, and Webb isn’t getting a shot despite leading the Vikings over the Eagles last year. Webb and McNabb are both black. Ponder is white. It doesn’t take a genius to see why it went down this way.
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    The thumbs down button isn’t working now so I have to comment on this to get it out of my system. People who use racism as the explanation for everything make me sick. Webb was a mediocre QB at a small school who was drafted to be a WR because he was a great athlete. Ponder was an elite college QB taken in the first round. McNabb had a chance and proved he is terrible. Do you really think Leslie Frazier is a racist? He’s the one who wanted to bring McNabb in so Ponder could learn behind him.

  67. It sucks to see this because he has generally been a class act throughout his career but he just doesn’t seem to have it anymore. As a packers and vikings fan (yes I know thats weird) I am excited to see what ponder can bring to the table.

  68. richm2256 says: Oct 18, 2011 4:07 PM

    cursedvikingfan says:
    The Vikings are far from the worst franchise in football and we have a great owner as well. So we will see Sunday!

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    The Vikes are one caboose away from a train wreck. Don’t get so excited.

    And 2 years removed from being a Super Bowl contender. Hardly the worst franchise in the NFL. Think next time before you type.

  69. First and foremost, I watch football to be entertained. Playoffs aren’t an option anymore and quite frankly Ponder and Webb are more entertaining to watch than McNabb.

    Use Ponder primarily but sprinkle in Webb more frequently and creatively. We need to see what both of these guys have. And we need to be entertained and McNabb wasn’t getting that done.

  70. To those so worried about Clay and the sack total and defenses-

    MN has allowed 145 points and are 1-5.
    GB has allowed 114 points and are 6-0. I’ll take Clay with what he does and has been doing over being 1-5 thanks.

    The REAL question is can Ponder put up more than 32 points? GB’s offense has scored 197 points this year. MN has scored 121 points.

    That’s what it’s going to take and he’d have to do it when no one else was able to, seeing as GB only averages giving up 19 points a game. Actually only New Orleans was able to do more than 32 points. They STILL lost and Ponder and the Vikes are NOT Brees and NOLA.

    MN averages 20 points a game. Ponder needs to be 3 TD’s better than the team average to beat the Pack if they do their average.

    Not likely.

  71. richm2256 says:Oct 18, 2011 4:03 PM

    4thandnone says:
    I looked up the vikings salary figures and he is making over $7 million this year. WTF !? My wife is a teacher and hasn’t had a raise in 8 years but this load makes $7 M in one year ! what is wrong with our society when a washed up QB get millions for doing nothing but good teachers make $40k/year and don’t see a raise for a decade. makes me sick.
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    Can your wife throw a corner fade into double coverage?
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    unfortunately not. Although she might be able to throw a McNabb bounce pass, with an offseason to practice of course 🙂

  72. cursedvikingfan says:
    Oct 18, 2011 4:36 PM

    And 2 years removed from being a Super Bowl contender. Hardly the worst franchise in the NFL. Think next time before you type.

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    lol. you fail to see the big picture. The queens are paying the price and will continue to pay the price for putting together a 1 hit wonder in 09. An unsuccessful 1 hit wonder.

  73. brewdogg says: Oct 18, 2011 3:14 PM

    Ummmm……

    The Packers have all of 15 sacks for the season, against teams that have given up a total of 87 sacks (and two of the teams have only played 5 games…). Ponder was not sacked in 18 dropbacks at a time when the defense was expecting the pass on every down. The Vikings are sure to try to pound the ball against a defense that gives up 4.1 YPC.

    What exactly makes you think Ponder will get beat on?
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    The packers have several 2 touchdown victories this year, and while we may have given up some yards we are 7th in the league in Red Zone defense, which is what counts.

    The majority of second halves of games Capers has been rushing only 3 and playing coverage, and while sacks may be down a bit interceptions are up.

    If you look at all the pass rushing stats Clay Matthews leads the league in sacks, Pressures and knockdowns combined.

    it will be fun to see how this game plays out

  74. McNabb has made way too many late night trips to McDonalds. Maybe he’s getting ready for an appearance on the biggest loser (would be appropriate in more than 1 way) or to make a run at Jared from Subway.

  75. dukemarc says:
    Oct 18, 2011 2:23 PM
    Wow, throwing Ponder to Caper’s wolves….yikes.

    =========================
    You mean thos #22 ranked wolves? OOOhhh, scary!

  76. cusoman says:
    Oct 18, 2011 4:21 PM
    I feel a tinge of divine justice coming on… rookie QB starts his first NFL game against his team’s hated rivals, who are cruising along in the season and still undefeated. It’s setup almost TOO perfect. I think Ackbar said it best: “It’s a trap!”

    Honestly, do I really believe they have a chance? No, my feet are planted firmly on the ground, but it sure is a nice thought that happens to be keeping me interested in this season/game, and that’s the biggest factor in this move – keeping the fans entertained, and McNabbaburger just wasn’t delivering there.
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    Hey Cuz….I appreciate the faith you show in your team, and I will be amongst the first to admit that I have deep reservations about this one. I don’t think the Packers are as good as everyone would like to think they are. The Vikings just have a way of pulling games like this out of the firepit. I hope not, but I won’t be surprised.

  77. cursedvikingfan says:
    Oct 18, 2011 3:37 PM
    I usually don’t talk trash and yes, I think the Packers are the best team in the NFL right now. But if for some reason Minnesota pulls a miracle and wins, I will be on here talking so much junk to all the d-bag Packer fans(not the classy, intelligent Packer fans). The Vikings are far from the worst franchise in football and we have a great owner as well. So we will see Sunday!
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    1. You’re probably going to lose. Strike that. You’re almost definitely going to lose.

    2. Even if you DO win, you’re going to talk trash…at 2-5?

    3. No, Minnesota is not the worst franchise. In other news, don’t forget your Thank You notes to the ownership of the Jacksonville Jaguars.

  78. Packer fans are D-bags. Enough. Rodgers better order up some headache pills, J. Allen coming around to plant him into the fake grass. Ponder might do ok but I just want to see Packers getting lit up. Matthews hasn’t done squat this year, so Packler fans please shut up about him. He’s needs a haircut.

  79. cursedvikingfan says:
    And 2 years removed from being a Super Bowl contender. Hardly the worst franchise in the NFL. Think next time before you type.

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    Hit a nerve did I, Vike’s fan?

    It’s not how far removed from being a “Super Bowl contender” you are, it’s how bad you suck TODAY, and today the 1-5 Vikes suck BADLY …… light years away from the “contender” you’re missing right now.

    Think before YOU type, Sparky.

  80. “Matthews hasn’t done squat this year” except for leading the NFL in QB hurries and hits.

    Know thy enemy. Especially before posting comments.

  81. If we can protect Rodgers it won’t matter what Ponder does. He should get plenty of yards against a porous Packer defense but If Aaron is protected he won’t be able to outscore the Packers.

  82. Well As an Eagles fan, who watched the over-rated ego maniac for 11 seasons, It brings a smile to my face. Im still waiting for Philadelphia to be shown how much we’ll regret trading Donnie. He’s shown us!

  83. One spot where the Vikes outshine the Packers so far is red zone D. Vikes are ranked second, Packers fourth. Allen may be a problem for Rodgers since AR’s under pressure stats aren’t as good as last year. But it’s difficult to see a Vikes win at this point because of the Packers offense.

    Rodgers has knocked off a couple NFL records this year already. One is that he’s the only QB who has a PR of 110+ in each of the first six games of any season.

    Two of Rodgers’ three INTs came on passes that were put right on target but were bobbled away by receivers. Who are dropping balls way too often.

    Packers’ run D has shined at times and been not so good at others. But Matt Forte was held to -2 yards. The potential for AP to have a big day is there.

    Assuming Rodgers plays the entire game, Ponder better be really, really good in the red zone for the Vikes to have a real chance.

  84. igglesrealist says: “Well As an Eagles fan, who watched the over-rated ego maniac for 11 seasons…”

    I agree. So where does Reid’s reputation as a QB coaching genius come from? Kolb? Vick? Kafka?
    I don’t get it.

  85. scudbot says:

    “I agree. So where does Reid’s reputation as a QB coaching genius come from? Kolb? Vick? Kafka?
    I don’t get it.”

    Its over rated as well. It comes from winning games with mediocre at best qb’s i suppose

  86. scudbot says:
    Oct 18, 2011 6:45 PM
    “Matthews hasn’t done squat this year” except for leading the NFL in QB hurries and hits.

    Know thy enemy. Especially before posting comments.
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    I have been looking for a site that posts those stats. Where did you find them?

  87. I will admit the Packers are probably the best team in the NFL.(Viking Fan hear) Thank god some of my best friends who are Packer fans are not idiots like the ones on here. Congrats morons, you can talk **** on the internet.

  88. contra74 says: Oct 18, 2011 2:48 PM

    stellarperformance says:
    Oct 18, 2011 2:23 PM
    After Clay Matthews gets done with him, he’ll be flipping the bird at his own teammates for sending him out there.
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    Clay has 2 sacks this season…yea im not concerned. Rodgers should be more worried about Jared Allen than the Vikings should be about Clay.

    Also, why is it that all Vikings articles bring out the packer trolls?

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    Probably the same reason Viking fans show up in Packers posts bashing Rodgers and the team every chance they get.

    Hopefully Jared Allen enjoys his sack count as his team goes 2-14.

  89. brewdogg says: Oct 18, 2011 9:29 PM

    scudbot says:
    Oct 18, 2011 6:45 PM
    “Matthews hasn’t done squat this year” except for leading the NFL in QB hurries and hits.

    Know thy enemy. Especially before posting comments.
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    I have been looking for a site that posts those stats. Where did you find them?

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    ESPN and NFL Network talked about both during Sportscenter and Gameday Final, respectively. Others on that list include Demarcus Ware and Jared Allen.

  90. stellarperformance says:
    Oct 18, 2011 2:23 PM

    After Clay Matthews gets done with him, he’ll be flipping the bird at his own teammates for sending him out there.

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    You talking about “2 sack” Clay?

    I think I would be more worried about Raji barging his way up the middle against Sullivan (if he even plays) than Matthews at this point. Good thing Ponder has some escapability with that O-line. The only reason I would have contemplated delaying the switch to Ponder for another week.

  91. gb4mn0 says:
    Oct 18, 2011 2:35 PM

    This is a sorry attempt to lessen the blow of lavender fan base after getting rolled by the 13 time NFL Champs this Sunday.

    [You do realize how stupid you sound when you make that statementdon’t you? Sort of like a Minnesotan bragging about the Minneapolis Lakers NBA Championships or the six-time champion Golden Gopher football team. Try to stay in the here and now – the Pack is the reigning champions, anything more sounds desperate.]

    shaggytoodle says:
    Oct 18, 2011 2:36 PM

    The Vikings again trading draft picks, for players they use for less than half a season.

    Not the best way to build a team. I think its starting to catch up with them.

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    Dumping Moss was made by a coach whose ego was larger than his body of work. They gave up what, a 6th rounder for McNabb? Not exactly the round you count on to build your team.

  92. 13xworldchamps –

    What you posted was the point brewdog was making – GB, whether it be by design or not, hasn’t been laying QBs out this year.

    teal379 says:
    Oct 18, 2011 4:43 PM

    The REAL question is can Ponder put up more than 32 points? GB’s offense has scored 197 points this year. MN has scored 121 points.

    That’s what it’s going to take and he’d have to do it when no one else was able to, seeing as GB only averages giving up 19 points a game.

    MN averages 20 points a game. Ponder needs to be 3 TD’s better than the team average to beat the Pack if they do their average.

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    Perhaps you should use a calculator.

    If the Vikings average 20 pts per game, and GB averages 32 pts per game, that’s a difference of 12 pts. Ponder would need to be 2 TDs better than the team average not 3 (TDs being 7 pts and all). If the average you’re referring to is the points the Packers are giving up (19 pts) Ponder woukd still need to be 2 TDs better not 3. Still not likely though.

    (While GB is obviously far better than the Vikings, comparing stats right now is a little misleading since GB has played three teams with one or fewer wins, while the Vikings have played three teams with winning records.)

    For you and all of the other Packer fans on here getting all worked up about the game this Sunday, I don’t see Viking fans on here predicting victory.

  93. brewdogg –

    Unless they’ve added it in the last year or so, I don’t think hurries & knockdowns are official league stats. Each team keeps track of their own players. Some teams, more so than others, are known to be rather generous with counts. Maybe Matthews has the hurries & knockdowns the Packer fans claim, and maybe he doesn’t.

  94. bmue42 says:
    Oct 18, 2011 2:27 PM
    bahahahahahahaha
    what a joke of a franchise

    go packers
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    the current win overall record is 49-46-1 with the packers ahead…

    If we are such a joke, how come you can’t dominate every game?

  95. Ponder reminded me of Aaron Rogers but faster. His has a rocket arm, graduated from college in two years (smart as hell) and has weapons who are fast on the artificial turf.

    The Vikes start turning it around on Sunday with a win over the Pack. Ponder is the hero and new faith is brought on the fans.

    Packers pass rush is still not up to speed this year, the vikes is. Packers DB’s are hurting again and teams are racking up yards, ditto Vikes too so its between Ponder and Rogers to make it happen. Vikes by 21.

  96. Derty Ernie says: Oct 19, 2011 9:45 AM

    Ponder reminded me of Aaron Rogers but faster. His has a rocket arm, graduated from college in two years (smart as hell) and has weapons who are fast on the artificial turf.

    The Vikes start turning it around on Sunday with a win over the Pack. Ponder is the hero and new faith is brought on the fans.

    Packers pass rush is still not up to speed this year, the vikes is. Packers DB’s are hurting again and teams are racking up yards, ditto Vikes too so its between Ponder and Rogers to make it happen. Vikes by 21.

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    Easy on the booze before noon, Ernie.

  97. Mcnabb is a joke. He has been declining for the past 3 or 4 years. He threw one too many “one hoppers” and Leslie frazier has now seen enough. I watched ponder closely at FSU and although he was exciting at times, he was never consistent, or had stellar numbers.

    He does have the measurable so with some good coaching and a heavy amount of #28 he just might have a chance. Plus how much worse can you be then 1-5 anyways… I am pretty sure ponder can at least match that terrible record moving forward.

    You might as well find out what you have with your 12 overall pick since the season is already lost, and you have no chance being in the NFC north…

  98. So far Ponder looks good. First ever pass was 72 yard TD. Lots of smaller throws looked good. Of course it’s early, but no mistakes, looks in command.

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