Comments on: NFL should investigate Eagles, Lions for letting Vick, Best return to game

By: thousandcasts

thousandcasts — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 12:22:11 +0000

Someone’s just hurt because the NFL didn’t fine Schwartz. Now he just had to look for another reason to whine about the Lions…even if it means making up an issue.

By: Packernet

Packernet — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 17:41:18 +0000

Again, getting your bell rung does not necessarily mean a concussion. If it did boxing would have been banned a long time ago. So would cupboards and doors and every other thing a person might hit their heads on. Yours is a lawyer’s view and we all hate lawyers (until we need one).

By: yevrag3535

yevrag3535 — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 17:05:24 +0000

Why do they play hockey then? If the players are concerned abou their health after playing days then don’t play. People don’t care anymore.

By: tfbuckfutter

tfbuckfutter — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 17:02:09 +0000

If a guy says he is good to play, we should take him at his word…..if you can’t trust the judgment of someone who just had their brain scrambled, who can you trust?

By: byrds71

byrds71 — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 16:45:37 +0000

Haters and/or whiners, complaining the Eagles cheated, by allowing Vick back in the game, you are pathetic. He had the wind knocked out of him and got dirt in his eyes, as he said after the game. L Fletcher maybe thought he had really hurt him, and/or was trying to get him out of the game. Either way, nice try haters, and if that was a blow to the head, as many have stated, then why was a flag not thrown? Yes, the refs have been horrible, but so has the lack of tackling technique, that was supposed to improve with all the new anti-missle rules.

By: drbob117

drbob117 — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 16:34:16 +0000

Vick was fine.Let the trainers do their job, they know a hell of a lot more than you do.

By: nickster31

nickster31 — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 16:29:19 +0000

First, James Harrison, now Vick?

I honestly wonder, if Tom Brady were to get hit like Vick did, if you would be saying the same thing?

Sorry, I forgot the other NFL Memo, that says no one is permitted to hit Tom Brady.

By: patriot375

patriot375 — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 16:26:47 +0000

With regards to Best the Lions took him out of the game with 10 minutes left in the 4th. I did not see him get creamed in the game. At what point did Best say, “hey I might have a problem here.”? Did HE even think he had a concussion? I’d like to hear some facts of your/that argument before you just group those two different situations together to strengthen your supposed position. Comes off as grandstanding. Schwartz is big on making sure those people are taken care of. Sheffler, Durant, Best all out for us due to concussion & are not allowed to return until cleared by neutral doctors & neutral services. Repeatedly Schwartz has said this is something you don’t mess around with, you fail to mention any of that.

By: jh500

jh500 — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 16:22:27 +0000

After seeing what Young did, no wonder why Vick recovered in 5 minutes.

By: brianforster

brianforster — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 16:19:30 +0000

Fletcher was asked about this on a radio show and said Vick got up wobbly. Almost any other player in the league I may suspect he was trying to get him out of there, but Fletcher is one of the classiest players to play the game, I highly doubt he was trying to obtain some sort of strategic advantage.

By: voiceofrealism

voiceofrealism — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 16:04:20 +0000

I think they should let Vick play regardless of whether they think he might have a concussion or not. He’s an adult and can decide if he’s healthy enough to play. Besides, I can’t wait for karma to catch up to him. He’ll be spending the rest of his life in a drooling stupor with state nurses changing his diapers.

By: alaricsrevenge

alaricsrevenge — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 15:49:57 +0000

Both players should’ve been locked in a nice quiet, dark closet.

By: eaglesnoles05

eaglesnoles05 — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 15:44:39 +0000

But wait, he just had dirt in his eye… nothing to see here… move along… lol

By: rdrdrs58

rdrdrs58 — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 15:39:40 +0000

I’m still trying to figure out where the helmet to helmet hit occurred with Vick… The play I saw, he was hit in the back and driven to the ground…

By: yzguy431

yzguy431 — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 15:35:51 +0000

did he call his wife?

By: izzop

izzop — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 15:29:25 +0000

It’s the new loophole and competitive advantage for teams. Whichever sideline has the best doctors for diagnosing a concussion loses (or even detecting a symptom), assuming their honest. If we’re talking safety, these “tough” players need to be protected from themselves and their own egos. It’s easy to sit on the couch and scream this is football, but you’re not the one who’s life might be torn apart before you’re 40 over a silly football game

By: caseysarasota

caseysarasota — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 15:27:30 +0000

this is a dumb article. no news…really, they kept him out before for concussions and a flippin finger that was bruised. If they thought he could go in, HE COULD GO IN. No need for an investigation.

By: lionsfanatic84

lionsfanatic84 — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 14:57:28 +0000

Who made you a Dr, best didn’t have any symptoms until after the game and he was taken out anyways get your facts straight

By: yzguy431

yzguy431 — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 14:47:55 +0000

putting him back in the game makes for a much better story though, does it not?

By: str82dvd

str82dvd — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 14:45:23 +0000

From my experience in high school football, the best prescription for a concussion is to walk it off, then take a nice long nap after practice.

By: nfl fan

nfl fan — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 14:40:06 +0000

Andy needs to do a better job. I’m sure he’ll take full responsibility.

By: willyalistentothis

willyalistentothis — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 14:23:51 +0000

How about the story PFT posted which suggested the Steelers made up the story about James Harrison’s eye being the reason he missed part of a game? Playing armchair physician is silly and is only meant to stoke controversy.

By: toolkien

toolkien — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 14:19:38 +0000

1) Football is a sport filled with violence.
2) Rules were made/changed to make the sport more exciting, to the detriment of the defense.
3) Defensive players adjusted, turning themselves into human missles.
4) Even more new rules were put in to defang the new approach.
5) Now all that is left his human pinball of a sport where head injuries (instead of just the knee or ankle injuries) are going through the roof.
6) Even MORE rules are now put in to protect the players and flags are flying and fines are handed out for what used to be mundane plays.
7) Teams, when the everything is at stake, will put players back in anyway when it counts, so real protection doesn’t even really exist.

There is your modern NFL. People like WWE, so have no doubt that it will thrive. But I don’t particularly want to watch it. Too much subjectivity between games and too much subjectivity within a game. The game is now a pitched battle of technicalities, and whoever gets punished the least is your champion. Watching millionaires with 3% body fat navigate a bureaucracy, and the decision to actually hit somebody is a three part business decision, isn’t much fun for me.

I don’t want to see physical damage for its own sake either, just the fact that it is a normal result of how the game used to be played. And it was far more objective as teams went up against each other and settled it that way. There’s always been a human element, but it’s now gotten so distorted guys are actually not making plays because they are worried about losing $15K. You futz around with something that wasn’t broken and you break it. The NFL has deviated so far from what it used to be to juice it up and attract new fans, and now it is the nu-NFL, one that I don’t like. I have little hope that it will return to its prior form, and will likely continue further down the road it’s on. For those who have recently joined, you’ll keep on enjoying it and you’re welcome to it. I’m going to start building ships in a bottle here pretty soon.

By: nesuperfan

nesuperfan — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 14:17:52 +0000

So I have been wondering what happens if this happens to a marquee name like Rogers or Brady in the Super Bowl, but they still want to play with a mild concussion.

My bet is that the whole thing goes out the window, and they will play anyway, bringing on a new wave of “they cheated” to win.

By: sj39

sj39 — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 14:13:40 +0000

The NFL never should have let Vick return to the game in the first place.

By: drshakedown74

drshakedown74 — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 14:03:25 +0000

Enough.

By: steelersmichele

steelersmichele — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 13:59:09 +0000

peytonwantsaflag says: I’m betting you could go through the tapes for Sunday and find many more of these types of situations.

You could–Troy Polamalu was taken out of the game with “concussion-like symptoms.” However, unlike Vick, he was not allowed to return to the game even though he wanted to.

Not saying one team was right and one was wrong, but I’m guessing if Young didn’t throw that interception, Vick would have stayed out of the game.

By: whathappenedtovox

whathappenedtovox — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 13:56:45 +0000

Vick was motionless on the ground for several seconds; video of the moment suggests that his body twitched at least once while he was down.
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LOL, so the Eagles’ trainers, from wherever they were on the sidelines at the time, no matter who may have been in their way, no matter what else was going on on the filed at the time, should have seen Vick twitch ever so slightly, and run to the head coach screaming GET HIM OUT? Are you serious, Mike?

By: tfbuckfutter

tfbuckfutter — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 13:54:03 +0000

To be fair to the Eagles, they did just name their Defensive Backs coach their new team physician so there’s bound to be a period of adjustment.

By: hanifmiller

hanifmiller — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 13:52:59 +0000

This is asinine. If you want to pursue your conspiracy theories then the burden of proof is on you. How do you (without reasonable doubt) prove that the Eagles and Andy Reid were being deceptive? How do you prove that Mike Vick had a concussion? The Eagles were extremely conservative with Westbrook, Desean Jackson, Kevin Kolb, and Mike Vick in the past. They did not assess Stewart Bradley when they should have because Eagles’ trainers and medical staff were focusing on Kolb. This is absolute crap.