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Carson Palmer may not start after all

Carson Palmer, Kyle Boller AP

If nothing else, Hue Jackson and the Raiders have successfully made their starting quarterback a mystery for this Sunday.

ESPN’s Adam Schefter reports that it now appears Kyle Boller will likely get the start against the Chiefs, not Carson Palmer as previous reports indicated.

Boller took the first team snaps to open practice Friday, according to Jerry McDonald of the Oakland Tribune. Schefter notes that the Raiders and Palmer have realized the mental and physical hurdles involved in getting him ready so quickly.

“I’m 95 percent sure he is not going to play,” a source “close to the situation” told Schefter. “Practicing Wednesday and Thursday, he felt he’s not ready to make those high-velocity throws yet.”

Palmer is also just picking up the offense and it makes sense for him to learn and get ready during the team’s bye. Jackson indicated he won’t make a decision about his quarterback until he had his weekly Irish Coffee Friday night.

Sometimes, Hue Jackson is pretty awesome.

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73 Responses to “Carson Palmer may not start after all”
  1. natelan69 says: Oct 21, 2011 2:27 PM

    Just when you thought the Raiders were going to finally be better than 8-8… They find a way to suck.

  2. mac3333 says: Oct 21, 2011 2:27 PM

    “Practicing Wednesday and Thursday, he felt he’s not ready to make those high-velocity throws yet.”

    But I thought the arm felt better after the long layoff?

    Again I thank Oakland for giving up the kings ransom for Quitter #9.

  3. claymus1 says: Oct 21, 2011 2:30 PM

    MMMMMMM……Irish Coffee !!

  4. edmazeing1 says: Oct 21, 2011 2:31 PM

    I would give him the first QT only, Boller that is!!!

  5. sadie753 says: Oct 21, 2011 2:31 PM

    I guess Palmer better practice holding his breath for Sunday’s game now!

  6. klastima99 says: Oct 21, 2011 2:32 PM

    Silver & Black can beat the Squaws even with Boller at QB

  7. calibear831 says: Oct 21, 2011 2:33 PM

    I have a feeling that by the end of the 1st quarter we raider fans r gonna yelling out for palmer. I can just hear it now. . .”PALMER!, PALMER!, PALMER!”. . .sucks for boller

  8. derekjetersmansion says: Oct 21, 2011 2:34 PM

    They got the Chiefs to prepare for, or at least think about, him.

  9. klastima99 says: Oct 21, 2011 2:34 PM

    and Coach Hue is THE MAN

  10. ajknox88 says: Oct 21, 2011 2:34 PM

    Lion’s fan here and to see the Oakland Raiders becoming relevant again is awesome to see.

  11. getweird4u says: Oct 21, 2011 2:36 PM

    Schefter notes that the Raiders and Palmer have realized the mental and physical hurdles involved in getting him ready so quickly.

    ————————————————-
    Yeah good luck with that he is a basket case,in reality his wife probably told him he had to go to a wine and cheese tasting with her.God he is such a p#ss@ whipped chump!

  12. osnap305 says: Oct 21, 2011 2:36 PM

    Well duh. All Al Saunders did was joke on some radio show about Palmer “needing to breathe” to be able to start and the media took off and ran with it.

    I was loling so hard at ESPN’s bright red breaking news sign that afternoon about him starting, as if they got that right.

  13. captainwisdom88 says: Oct 21, 2011 2:36 PM

    After Kyle Boller mildly exploits a porous KC defense, there’s no reason not to expect somewhat of a QB controversy despite the high-profile trade.

    2 First Rounders!????

  14. slickster35 says: Oct 21, 2011 2:37 PM

    Damn, I was hoping we’d be the first team to get a shot at Palmers collarbone.

  15. steviekthr3e says: Oct 21, 2011 2:39 PM

    God bless that man. Great quote.

  16. wawa33 says: Oct 21, 2011 2:43 PM

    Adam Schefter looks like Paul Rudd.

  17. easyeintennessee says: Oct 21, 2011 2:43 PM

    Carson has become quite the pro at not playing. Sorry Raider fans… Time to buckle your seatbelts, its going to be a long, bumpy ride…. With really short, wobbly passes forced into double teams.

  18. ghostofgilchrist says: Oct 21, 2011 2:44 PM

    Irish Coffee…the perfect food. Has the three basic food groups…alcohol, sugar, caffeine. Only thing missing is a pack of Luckys.

    Back on topic. Football, blah, blah…

  19. raiders4life says: Oct 21, 2011 2:48 PM

    I think Coach Jackson is simply trying to throw Todd Haley and the Chiefs off their game plan. In the end Boller will get the start and McFadden will have another career game versus the original Dallas Texans. Chiefs 17, Raiders 24.

  20. jacunn2000 says: Oct 21, 2011 2:50 PM

    OH NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  21. supashug says: Oct 21, 2011 2:51 PM

    Bollers wife is hot, start him

  22. acruiser75 says: Oct 21, 2011 2:52 PM

    Well my unnamed source “close to the situation” told me that Palmer is going to play this Sunday…

  23. chocolatebaconbutter says: Oct 21, 2011 2:55 PM

    Hue Jackson kinda looks like Barry Bonds.

  24. nflhof says: Oct 21, 2011 2:55 PM

    you would think “the best trade in the history of the NFL” would bring you a guy who could beat out Kyle Boller for the starters job

  25. poprox13 says: Oct 21, 2011 2:57 PM

    No Palmer, no Jano, not good………..

  26. nflwatcher says: Oct 21, 2011 2:59 PM

    Maybe if they had more respect for KC there would be more of an urgency for Palmer to play.

  27. Chairman Al says: Oct 21, 2011 3:00 PM

    Sometimes, Hue Jackson is pretty awesome.

    —–

    Raider Nation agrees.

  28. packattack1967 says: Oct 21, 2011 3:04 PM

    Remember when Kyle Boller was the next Brett Favre?

  29. homelanddefense says: Oct 21, 2011 3:04 PM

    this isnt shocking news. I would be worried if my team signed/traded for a QB and started him in the same week.

  30. bwisnasky says: Oct 21, 2011 3:10 PM

    With Dmac in the backfield, and that offensive line, the Raiders could put me back at QB and be able to beat KC….. Remember, KC’s season saving 2 game winning streak has come against teams that are a collective 1-11. Outside of that, they’ve looked worse than your average local high school team.

  31. ncsteeler says: Oct 21, 2011 3:12 PM

    “he felt he’s not ready to make those high-velocity throws yet”

    How many “high velocity throws” did Palmer make last year? Wasn’t that his basic problem? He thought he still had the same arm strength he had before hurting his elbow.

  32. flyeaglefly says: Oct 21, 2011 3:15 PM

    Boller…we’re talkin bout KYLE BOLLER!!

  33. dukemarc says: Oct 21, 2011 3:17 PM

    I prefer a Hawaiian Coffee.

  34. gregblatz says: Oct 21, 2011 3:22 PM

    Hilarious!
    Carson is already taking himself out of games. This was his decision by the way, not the coaching staff.

    I should say that this is likely another one of his wife’s decisions. She is the one pulling the strings after all.

    I hope Kyle Boller lights the world on fire this week!

    Hey Oakland, Carson is a quitter, not a leader. Enjoy your new QB!

  35. jbaxt says: Oct 21, 2011 3:23 PM

    Keep in mind the Chiefs losses also came to teams that are a combined 14-4.

    Oakland should win but division games are always close, just look at the Bronco win…

  36. billucf96 says: Oct 21, 2011 3:27 PM

    Raiders essentially gave away a first round pick for damn near free.

  37. walrushooker says: Oct 21, 2011 3:30 PM

    Love it! Keep talking about our quarterback, good idea. The majority of the time, he’s about as relevant as the weird guy on the sidelines with the orange gloves on. Keep focusing on who our qb is, as we plan on running over your…

  38. paulisrollin says: Oct 21, 2011 3:32 PM

    Yeah I think it’s laughable that Palmer says he’s not ready to make those “high-velocity” throws just yet. So working out with his brother and TJ in the offseason didn’t result in any “high-velocity” throws huh? Oh and where were those “high-velocity” throws the past couple of years in Cincinnati? Oh that’s right, you opted out of getting surgery on your elbow and thought you’d be ok w/o getting surgery. Forgot about that. Hey Oakland, he’s already showing extreme weakness and a lack of desire to play the game. Any QB would be chomping at the bit to start even if they felt they weren’t ready. No not Palmer. What a whiner. You’ve just had your first taste of diva Palmer.
    As others have said, what his wife says he should do is what he does. Don’t be surprised if he comes in with a batch of cookies he baked for his offensive line b/c his wife thought it was a good idea to make snacks for his new friends. He’s whipped.

  39. jamie54 says: Oct 21, 2011 3:33 PM

    It was stupid assumption to think he would have started after sitting out the last 10 months. Stupid, don’t fall for the team or media BS at all. I mean, think about it. Not having played since December, lockout, no pre season, no practices, so all of a sudden he’ll come in and after 3 practice sessions he’ll start? Stupid, but hey, it is the Raiders.

  40. raiderlyfe510 says: Oct 21, 2011 3:35 PM

    4-3

  41. kcraiderdan says: Oct 21, 2011 3:36 PM

    nflwatcher says:
    Oct 21, 2011 2:59 PM

    Maybe if they had more respect for KC there would be more of an urgency for Palmer to play.

    ________________________________

    Well put. With The Raiders running game and defense, I think they can beat the Chiefs with Jesse or Jordan Palmer at QB.

  42. kcraiderdan says: Oct 21, 2011 3:40 PM

    jbaxt says:
    Oct 21, 2011 3:23 PM

    Keep in mind the Chiefs losses also came to teams that are a combined 14-4.

    *********************

    And their wins came from teams that are combined 1-11. BOO-YEAH!!!!

  43. geniusfan says: Oct 21, 2011 3:42 PM

    Should have been a Boller….

  44. mcthompso says: Oct 21, 2011 3:48 PM

    ajknox88 says:Oct 21, 2011 2:34 PM

    Lion’s fan here and to see the Oakland Raiders becoming relevant again is awesome to see.

    ______________________

    As a Raiders fan, same goes for the Lions. I think this brutal stretch of years has had me rooting for the Lions too…both teams fans have a lot in common, knowing the heartache of the other. If the Raiders were sucking, I’d be super jealous and feeling betrayed by the Lions success though.

  45. juliodamfoolio says: Oct 21, 2011 3:49 PM

    Yeah, big mystery on the starting QB. Anyone with half a brain pretty much knew Palmer wouldn’t start his first game back, after so much time off, against a sorry Chiefs team, with a bye week coming up. Wow – nice work.

  46. rayguyreturns says: Oct 21, 2011 3:50 PM

    We’ve been patient for 10 years. We can wait another 2 weeks.

    Just line up and play Sunday. Boller can just act like Dilfer did and try not to lose the game.

  47. autumnwind999 says: Oct 21, 2011 3:59 PM

    All week long it was comment after comment, column after column saying it would be reckless and insane to start Palmer on Sunday. Now, it’s reported that Palmer won’t start (which I’ll only believe when the Oakland offense takes over on Sunday) and this is some sort of indication that Palmer is a quitter?

    Make up your minds R8R haters and tearfully scorned Bungles fans. Fear is not a cologne worn by winners.

  48. revxapparel says: Oct 21, 2011 3:59 PM

    Dear Oakland,

    Kyle Boller? Seriously?

    Sincerely,

    Baltimore

  49. 808raiderinparadise says: Oct 21, 2011 4:00 PM

    fyi “A CLOSE SOURCE TO THE SUTUATION SAYS” ….. well anyone close the situation in oakland always ALWAYS leads the media to think differently or throw them off, thats why Mort says he no longer deals with anyone for hte raiders because of the amount of times he specualted rumors and they all were wrong lol

  50. raiderlyfe510 says: Oct 21, 2011 4:00 PM

    I mean that fool Boller only played one series in the Jacksonville game last year and it ruined their season by costint the Raiders a playoff berth.

  51. raider13pdx says: Oct 21, 2011 4:00 PM

    My goodness people. You all act like first rd. picks are guaranteed gold. 1st rd picks are unproven players. You never know what you’re going to get. Look at all the busts. Best player available on the board my ass. I’d take a proven player for a 1st rd and a 2nd rd pick anyday. Richard Seymour was definitely worth last years 1st rd pick. You people amaze me with your idiotic statements. Shut up already. There are plenty of players to pick from in later rds. And Hue is a great talent evaluator. If you have a good talent evaluator who drafts well your golden. Look at the history. Oakland drafted just fine without a first last year and they’ll do it again. And they WILL get comp picks in the 3rd-5th rds for losing Nnamdi, Zach Miller, Gallery, and Gradkowski. Oakland needed a QB and Palmer was a great pick. Gannon came to Oakland at 34 and he proved everyone wrong. Now let’s all sit back and watch CP do the same in Oakland with a fresh start on a good team.

    Just Win Baby!

  52. Kaz says: Oct 21, 2011 4:03 PM

    Rumor has it there was 8 p6′s returned in practice Thursday and Hue felt he needed the rest….

  53. firerosenthalthebastard says: Oct 21, 2011 4:04 PM

    revxapparel says: Oct 21, 2011 3:59 PM

    Dear Oakland,

    Kyle Boller? Seriously?

    Sincerely,

    Baltimore

    ——–

    come talk to me when Flacco’s completion % gets north of 40

  54. humb0lt says: Oct 21, 2011 4:08 PM

    Two first round draft picks and $15 million, and he has a dead arm. Only the Raiders.

    Go Bolts!

  55. 707Raiders707 says: Oct 21, 2011 4:10 PM

    whats up with lion fans talking about oakland being revelent when detriot has not been that ummmm… ever

  56. sportsdrenched.com says: Oct 21, 2011 4:11 PM

    thats why Mort says he no longer deals with anyone for the raiders

    No that’s why no one pays attention to Mort period. When he appears on my ESPN Radio affiliate it’s an automatic reach for the pre-sets.

  57. jeffperk says: Oct 21, 2011 4:19 PM

    Boller Time!!!

  58. paulisrollin says: Oct 21, 2011 4:22 PM

    autumnwind999 says:
    Oct 21, 2011 3:59 PM
    All week long it was comment after comment, column after column saying it would be reckless and insane to start Palmer on Sunday. Now, it’s reported that Palmer won’t start (which I’ll only believe when the Oakland offense takes over on Sunday) and this is some sort of indication that Palmer is a quitter?

    Make up your minds R8R haters and tearfully scorned Bungles fans. Fear is not a cologne worn by winners.
    ———————-

    Hardly a Raider hater here. I am a Bengals fan and not scorned at all about Palmer leaving. I’m glad he did. Otherwise we’d be 1-5 on our way to a high first round draft pick yet again. Palmer has no leadership skills and lacks the heart for the game.
    His wife has his ball$ in her pocket so he can’t do anything w/o her permission first. Hell I bet she had to sign the contract with him as his legal guardian.
    I’m actually a big Hue Jackson fan and hope for the best for his team but Palmer is a sissy and he’s nowhere near as good as everyone makes him out to be. Hope your O-line is quick b/c they’ll be chasing the other teams’ cornerbacks when they intercept the ball and take it to the house! Palmer is really accurate when throwing to the opposing team! lol

  59. radrntn says: Oct 21, 2011 4:26 PM

    humb0lt says:
    Oct 21, 2011 4:08 PM
    Two first round draft picks and $15 million, and he has a dead arm. Only the Raiders.
    ___________________________

    Dumbolt you finally sound intelligent for once. You are admitting that it’s two #1′s which means raiders have to win the AFC Championship game for the bengals to get that other pick…thanks for seeing what the raiders fan already know. glad to see a hater jump on the raiders superbowl bandwagon.

  60. ron69 says: Oct 21, 2011 4:28 PM

    Could Boller be the worst back up Qb in nfl?

  61. essentialsausage says: Oct 21, 2011 4:28 PM

    They probably watched Carson Palmer practice and realized that he sucks. He can’t even beat out Kyle Boller, LOL.

  62. kevraiders says: Oct 21, 2011 4:39 PM

    First off, all of you wanna be experts that say the raiders gave up a “kings ransom” are completely retarded …its only 2first rounders if Oakland makes it to the afc championship game in the next 2years..u mean to tell me that if whatever team u actually root for was to get one game away from a Superbowl and all it costs is 2 first round picks u wouldn’t do it? ..stop regurgitating what u see on ESPN or nfln any grow an educated opinion.

  63. 1acrowskids says: Oct 21, 2011 5:08 PM

    Oh you mean they tricked the Chiefs into thinking he might play so they would have to devote practice time preparing for him? I bet thats never ever been done before in the history of the NFL. I gotta go tell Auntie Em the tricky Raiders just pulled a fast one on us dumb hayseeds. Wow ALL the smart people live on the west coast, dad-gummit. Shucks.

  64. jeremyb91 says: Oct 21, 2011 5:34 PM

    I don’t think any football man actually though Carson Palmer would start. It was obviously something the media brought about and spread including this site.

    He can practice for two weeks and get much closer to game shape by then. Boller’s the best option right now and there’s no second guessing it. They could still open the game by sending Moore and DHB deep and trying to go to either player. He’s got the cannon to scare defenses if he can get the ball close enough for their speed to allow them to compensate for him.

    If the Raiders can’t beat the Chiefs with their terrible rushing defense and horrible pass defense with Boller, they don’t deserve it. Boller should have no problem against that defense.

  65. dougydougdoug says: Oct 21, 2011 5:40 PM

    “natelan69 says: Oct 21, 2011 2:27 PM

    Just when you thought the Raiders were going to finally be better than 8-8… They find a way to suck.”

    No. Pretty much everyone was already aware that they were going to suck. But now they also guaranteed more suck for the next many years, by pawning off their top draft picks for a washed-out hold-out. Yeah, Palmer was really just going to show up and take them to the SuperBowl. I guess he was just sandbagging for all those losing years in Cincinnati?

  66. gobucs02 says: Oct 21, 2011 6:46 PM

    I wouldn’t start Palmer right away, I would probably start Boller in the first half, and if things getbout of hand, then I would put Palmer in.

  67. voyager6 says: Oct 21, 2011 8:14 PM

    “Practicing Wednesday and Thursday, he felt he’s not ready to make those high-velocity throws yet.”

    Let me fix this quote: “Practicing Wednesday and Thursday, he felt he’s not CAPABLE OF EVER MAKING those high-velocity throws AGAIN.”

    His velocity only goes down, the more he throws.

  68. jeremyb91 says: Oct 21, 2011 8:47 PM

    dougydougdoug says: “No. Pretty much everyone was already aware that they were going to suck. But now they also guaranteed more suck for the next many years, by pawning off their top draft picks for a washed-out hold-out. Yeah, Palmer was really just going to show up and take them to the SuperBowl. I guess he was just sandbagging for all those losing years in Cincinnati?”

    Did you know the last 3 games of last season Palmer completed 62 of 89 passes for 69% completion rate and helped the team beat San Diego in the 2nd to last game which was still an important game for the Chargers where he tossed 4 TD’s and completed 76% of his passes? Palmer wasn’t sandbagging, the team had been sandbagging on him giving him Ocho Cinco , Chris Henry, and most recently TO along with a terrible O line and never really improving for him like a team of should for a QB of his caliber.

    Palmer now gets several hungry WR’s who aren’t media hounds and just got to work, a very good O line which is only improving with a pick from 2012 already playing rock solid, Joe Barksdale, and a RB who plays special teams and whatever he can for the team but has shown flashes of being a stud RB, Taiwan Jones. On defense, the 7th round pick is gone for the starting WLB Aaron Curry who should only improve as he plays just one position in this defense rather than being moved around.

    He quit on Cincinnati because he believed Mike Brown lied to him or deceived him in some way by never fulfilling his end of the bargain by bringing in the right players. Now he’s with a coach and team he wants to be with. He’s going to excel and make Cincinnati pissed they did’t take care of him. Hue Jackson will make him look like a stud in this offense.

  69. raiderapologist says: Oct 21, 2011 8:57 PM

    humb0lt says: Oct 21, 2011 4:08 PM

    Two first round draft picks and $15 million, and he has a dead arm. Only the Raiders.

    In a later story, humb0lt bumps it up to 3 firsts and 30 million, just so he can post this:

    Go Bolts! Please, please please, please….

  70. raiderapologist says: Oct 21, 2011 9:04 PM

    Schefter is awesome. Palmer will start, unless he doesn’t. Either way, you heard it here first. Thank you. My name is Adam Schefter. Please notice me. I might be short, but I am important.

  71. hrdcorbengalsfan says: Oct 21, 2011 10:50 PM

    Bengal fans have nothing to fear..we won either way but if you think Palmer is the answer…may God be with you! Get your popcorn.

  72. raiders757 says: Oct 22, 2011 1:15 AM

    @ jeremyb91:

    “Hue Jackson will make him look like a stud in this offense.”

    I’m hoping your prediction is correct, and there’s little doubt that he can’t do it, despite the naysayers.

    Just look at Campbell. Sure, the bar is raised higher for Palmer, but having watched Campbell’s entire professional career, I can attest that he vastly improved over the past two seasons. I say this being one of his bigger critics. Obviously Campbell isn’t/wasn’t a game changing QB, and still has a lot of room for improvement, but as of his last start, he greatly improved his game management skills as well as his leadership ability. I never thought I would say this, but his injury is a huge loss for the team, despite the Palmer trade.

    I doubt Palmer is going to “light it up” when he does finally start, but there should be little doubt that he will be an upgrade over Campbell once he’s grasped the offense. Despite the strides Campbell has made, Palmer is a better QB. Even the “bad” Palmer can be an improvement, and that should add a few grey hairs to the scalps of our enemies.

    Palmer doesn’t have to be the QB he was in the mid-90′s to succeed with the Raiders. All he has to do, is manage the game well, which shouldn’t be hard for him once he learns the offense.

  73. hrdcorbengalsfan says: Oct 22, 2011 4:00 PM

    Mid ’90s puts him about high school age. Long before Kimo and needed Tommy John.

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