Carson Palmer may not start after all

AP

If nothing else, Hue Jackson and the Raiders have successfully made their starting quarterback a mystery for this Sunday.

ESPN’s Adam Schefter reports that it now appears Kyle Boller will likely get the start against the Chiefs, not Carson Palmer as previous reports indicated.

Boller took the first team snaps to open practice Friday, according to Jerry McDonald of the Oakland Tribune. Schefter notes that the Raiders and Palmer have realized the mental and physical hurdles involved in getting him ready so quickly.

“I’m 95 percent sure he is not going to play,” a source “close to the situation” told Schefter. “Practicing Wednesday and Thursday, he felt he’s not ready to make those high-velocity throws yet.”

Palmer is also just picking up the offense and it makes sense for him to learn and get ready during the team’s bye. Jackson indicated he won’t make a decision about his quarterback until he had his weekly Irish Coffee Friday night.

Sometimes, Hue Jackson is pretty awesome.

73 responses to “Carson Palmer may not start after all

  1. “Practicing Wednesday and Thursday, he felt he’s not ready to make those high-velocity throws yet.”

    But I thought the arm felt better after the long layoff?

    Again I thank Oakland for giving up the kings ransom for Quitter #9.

  2. I have a feeling that by the end of the 1st quarter we raider fans r gonna yelling out for palmer. I can just hear it now. . .”PALMER!, PALMER!, PALMER!”. . .sucks for boller

  3. Schefter notes that the Raiders and Palmer have realized the mental and physical hurdles involved in getting him ready so quickly.

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    Yeah good luck with that he is a basket case,in reality his wife probably told him he had to go to a wine and cheese tasting with her.God he is such a p#ss@ whipped chump!

  4. Well duh. All Al Saunders did was joke on some radio show about Palmer “needing to breathe” to be able to start and the media took off and ran with it.

    I was loling so hard at ESPN’s bright red breaking news sign that afternoon about him starting, as if they got that right.

  5. After Kyle Boller mildly exploits a porous KC defense, there’s no reason not to expect somewhat of a QB controversy despite the high-profile trade.

    2 First Rounders!????

  6. Carson has become quite the pro at not playing. Sorry Raider fans… Time to buckle your seatbelts, its going to be a long, bumpy ride…. With really short, wobbly passes forced into double teams.

  7. I think Coach Jackson is simply trying to throw Todd Haley and the Chiefs off their game plan. In the end Boller will get the start and McFadden will have another career game versus the original Dallas Texans. Chiefs 17, Raiders 24.

  8. you would think “the best trade in the history of the NFL” would bring you a guy who could beat out Kyle Boller for the starters job

  9. With Dmac in the backfield, and that offensive line, the Raiders could put me back at QB and be able to beat KC….. Remember, KC’s season saving 2 game winning streak has come against teams that are a collective 1-11. Outside of that, they’ve looked worse than your average local high school team.

  10. “he felt he’s not ready to make those high-velocity throws yet”

    How many “high velocity throws” did Palmer make last year? Wasn’t that his basic problem? He thought he still had the same arm strength he had before hurting his elbow.

  11. Hilarious!
    Carson is already taking himself out of games. This was his decision by the way, not the coaching staff.

    I should say that this is likely another one of his wife’s decisions. She is the one pulling the strings after all.

    I hope Kyle Boller lights the world on fire this week!

    Hey Oakland, Carson is a quitter, not a leader. Enjoy your new QB!

  12. Keep in mind the Chiefs losses also came to teams that are a combined 14-4.

    Oakland should win but division games are always close, just look at the Bronco win…

  13. Love it! Keep talking about our quarterback, good idea. The majority of the time, he’s about as relevant as the weird guy on the sidelines with the orange gloves on. Keep focusing on who our qb is, as we plan on running over your…

  14. Yeah I think it’s laughable that Palmer says he’s not ready to make those “high-velocity” throws just yet. So working out with his brother and TJ in the offseason didn’t result in any “high-velocity” throws huh? Oh and where were those “high-velocity” throws the past couple of years in Cincinnati? Oh that’s right, you opted out of getting surgery on your elbow and thought you’d be ok w/o getting surgery. Forgot about that. Hey Oakland, he’s already showing extreme weakness and a lack of desire to play the game. Any QB would be chomping at the bit to start even if they felt they weren’t ready. No not Palmer. What a whiner. You’ve just had your first taste of diva Palmer.
    As others have said, what his wife says he should do is what he does. Don’t be surprised if he comes in with a batch of cookies he baked for his offensive line b/c his wife thought it was a good idea to make snacks for his new friends. He’s whipped.

  15. It was stupid assumption to think he would have started after sitting out the last 10 months. Stupid, don’t fall for the team or media BS at all. I mean, think about it. Not having played since December, lockout, no pre season, no practices, so all of a sudden he’ll come in and after 3 practice sessions he’ll start? Stupid, but hey, it is the Raiders.

  16. nflwatcher says:
    Oct 21, 2011 2:59 PM

    Maybe if they had more respect for KC there would be more of an urgency for Palmer to play.

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    Well put. With The Raiders running game and defense, I think they can beat the Chiefs with Jesse or Jordan Palmer at QB.

  17. jbaxt says:
    Oct 21, 2011 3:23 PM

    Keep in mind the Chiefs losses also came to teams that are a combined 14-4.

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    And their wins came from teams that are combined 1-11. BOO-YEAH!!!!

  18. ajknox88 says:Oct 21, 2011 2:34 PM

    Lion’s fan here and to see the Oakland Raiders becoming relevant again is awesome to see.

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    As a Raiders fan, same goes for the Lions. I think this brutal stretch of years has had me rooting for the Lions too…both teams fans have a lot in common, knowing the heartache of the other. If the Raiders were sucking, I’d be super jealous and feeling betrayed by the Lions success though.

  19. Yeah, big mystery on the starting QB. Anyone with half a brain pretty much knew Palmer wouldn’t start his first game back, after so much time off, against a sorry Chiefs team, with a bye week coming up. Wow – nice work.

  20. We’ve been patient for 10 years. We can wait another 2 weeks.

    Just line up and play Sunday. Boller can just act like Dilfer did and try not to lose the game.

  21. All week long it was comment after comment, column after column saying it would be reckless and insane to start Palmer on Sunday. Now, it’s reported that Palmer won’t start (which I’ll only believe when the Oakland offense takes over on Sunday) and this is some sort of indication that Palmer is a quitter?

    Make up your minds R8R haters and tearfully scorned Bungles fans. Fear is not a cologne worn by winners.

  22. fyi “A CLOSE SOURCE TO THE SUTUATION SAYS” ….. well anyone close the situation in oakland always ALWAYS leads the media to think differently or throw them off, thats why Mort says he no longer deals with anyone for hte raiders because of the amount of times he specualted rumors and they all were wrong lol

  23. My goodness people. You all act like first rd. picks are guaranteed gold. 1st rd picks are unproven players. You never know what you’re going to get. Look at all the busts. Best player available on the board my ass. I’d take a proven player for a 1st rd and a 2nd rd pick anyday. Richard Seymour was definitely worth last years 1st rd pick. You people amaze me with your idiotic statements. Shut up already. There are plenty of players to pick from in later rds. And Hue is a great talent evaluator. If you have a good talent evaluator who drafts well your golden. Look at the history. Oakland drafted just fine without a first last year and they’ll do it again. And they WILL get comp picks in the 3rd-5th rds for losing Nnamdi, Zach Miller, Gallery, and Gradkowski. Oakland needed a QB and Palmer was a great pick. Gannon came to Oakland at 34 and he proved everyone wrong. Now let’s all sit back and watch CP do the same in Oakland with a fresh start on a good team.

    Just Win Baby!

  24. thats why Mort says he no longer deals with anyone for the raiders

    No that’s why no one pays attention to Mort period. When he appears on my ESPN Radio affiliate it’s an automatic reach for the pre-sets.

  25. autumnwind999 says:
    Oct 21, 2011 3:59 PM
    All week long it was comment after comment, column after column saying it would be reckless and insane to start Palmer on Sunday. Now, it’s reported that Palmer won’t start (which I’ll only believe when the Oakland offense takes over on Sunday) and this is some sort of indication that Palmer is a quitter?

    Make up your minds R8R haters and tearfully scorned Bungles fans. Fear is not a cologne worn by winners.
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    Hardly a Raider hater here. I am a Bengals fan and not scorned at all about Palmer leaving. I’m glad he did. Otherwise we’d be 1-5 on our way to a high first round draft pick yet again. Palmer has no leadership skills and lacks the heart for the game.
    His wife has his ball$ in her pocket so he can’t do anything w/o her permission first. Hell I bet she had to sign the contract with him as his legal guardian.
    I’m actually a big Hue Jackson fan and hope for the best for his team but Palmer is a sissy and he’s nowhere near as good as everyone makes him out to be. Hope your O-line is quick b/c they’ll be chasing the other teams’ cornerbacks when they intercept the ball and take it to the house! Palmer is really accurate when throwing to the opposing team! lol

  26. humb0lt says:
    Oct 21, 2011 4:08 PM
    Two first round draft picks and $15 million, and he has a dead arm. Only the Raiders.
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    Dumbolt you finally sound intelligent for once. You are admitting that it’s two #1’s which means raiders have to win the AFC Championship game for the bengals to get that other pick…thanks for seeing what the raiders fan already know. glad to see a hater jump on the raiders superbowl bandwagon.

  27. They probably watched Carson Palmer practice and realized that he sucks. He can’t even beat out Kyle Boller, LOL.

  28. First off, all of you wanna be experts that say the raiders gave up a “kings ransom” are completely retarded …its only 2first rounders if Oakland makes it to the afc championship game in the next 2years..u mean to tell me that if whatever team u actually root for was to get one game away from a Superbowl and all it costs is 2 first round picks u wouldn’t do it? ..stop regurgitating what u see on ESPN or nfln any grow an educated opinion.

  29. Oh you mean they tricked the Chiefs into thinking he might play so they would have to devote practice time preparing for him? I bet thats never ever been done before in the history of the NFL. I gotta go tell Auntie Em the tricky Raiders just pulled a fast one on us dumb hayseeds. Wow ALL the smart people live on the west coast, dad-gummit. Shucks.

  30. I don’t think any football man actually though Carson Palmer would start. It was obviously something the media brought about and spread including this site.

    He can practice for two weeks and get much closer to game shape by then. Boller’s the best option right now and there’s no second guessing it. They could still open the game by sending Moore and DHB deep and trying to go to either player. He’s got the cannon to scare defenses if he can get the ball close enough for their speed to allow them to compensate for him.

    If the Raiders can’t beat the Chiefs with their terrible rushing defense and horrible pass defense with Boller, they don’t deserve it. Boller should have no problem against that defense.

  31. “natelan69 says: Oct 21, 2011 2:27 PM

    Just when you thought the Raiders were going to finally be better than 8-8… They find a way to suck.”

    No. Pretty much everyone was already aware that they were going to suck. But now they also guaranteed more suck for the next many years, by pawning off their top draft picks for a washed-out hold-out. Yeah, Palmer was really just going to show up and take them to the SuperBowl. I guess he was just sandbagging for all those losing years in Cincinnati?

  32. I wouldn’t start Palmer right away, I would probably start Boller in the first half, and if things getbout of hand, then I would put Palmer in.

  33. “Practicing Wednesday and Thursday, he felt he’s not ready to make those high-velocity throws yet.”

    Let me fix this quote: “Practicing Wednesday and Thursday, he felt he’s not CAPABLE OF EVER MAKING those high-velocity throws AGAIN.”

    His velocity only goes down, the more he throws.

  34. dougydougdoug says: “No. Pretty much everyone was already aware that they were going to suck. But now they also guaranteed more suck for the next many years, by pawning off their top draft picks for a washed-out hold-out. Yeah, Palmer was really just going to show up and take them to the SuperBowl. I guess he was just sandbagging for all those losing years in Cincinnati?”

    Did you know the last 3 games of last season Palmer completed 62 of 89 passes for 69% completion rate and helped the team beat San Diego in the 2nd to last game which was still an important game for the Chargers where he tossed 4 TD’s and completed 76% of his passes? Palmer wasn’t sandbagging, the team had been sandbagging on him giving him Ocho Cinco , Chris Henry, and most recently TO along with a terrible O line and never really improving for him like a team of should for a QB of his caliber.

    Palmer now gets several hungry WR’s who aren’t media hounds and just got to work, a very good O line which is only improving with a pick from 2012 already playing rock solid, Joe Barksdale, and a RB who plays special teams and whatever he can for the team but has shown flashes of being a stud RB, Taiwan Jones. On defense, the 7th round pick is gone for the starting WLB Aaron Curry who should only improve as he plays just one position in this defense rather than being moved around.

    He quit on Cincinnati because he believed Mike Brown lied to him or deceived him in some way by never fulfilling his end of the bargain by bringing in the right players. Now he’s with a coach and team he wants to be with. He’s going to excel and make Cincinnati pissed they did’t take care of him. Hue Jackson will make him look like a stud in this offense.

  35. humb0lt says: Oct 21, 2011 4:08 PM

    Two first round draft picks and $15 million, and he has a dead arm. Only the Raiders.

    In a later story, humb0lt bumps it up to 3 firsts and 30 million, just so he can post this:

    Go Bolts! Please, please please, please….

  36. Schefter is awesome. Palmer will start, unless he doesn’t. Either way, you heard it here first. Thank you. My name is Adam Schefter. Please notice me. I might be short, but I am important.

  37. Bengal fans have nothing to fear..we won either way but if you think Palmer is the answer…may God be with you! Get your popcorn.

  38. @ jeremyb91:

    “Hue Jackson will make him look like a stud in this offense.”

    I’m hoping your prediction is correct, and there’s little doubt that he can’t do it, despite the naysayers.

    Just look at Campbell. Sure, the bar is raised higher for Palmer, but having watched Campbell’s entire professional career, I can attest that he vastly improved over the past two seasons. I say this being one of his bigger critics. Obviously Campbell isn’t/wasn’t a game changing QB, and still has a lot of room for improvement, but as of his last start, he greatly improved his game management skills as well as his leadership ability. I never thought I would say this, but his injury is a huge loss for the team, despite the Palmer trade.

    I doubt Palmer is going to “light it up” when he does finally start, but there should be little doubt that he will be an upgrade over Campbell once he’s grasped the offense. Despite the strides Campbell has made, Palmer is a better QB. Even the “bad” Palmer can be an improvement, and that should add a few grey hairs to the scalps of our enemies.

    Palmer doesn’t have to be the QB he was in the mid-90’s to succeed with the Raiders. All he has to do, is manage the game well, which shouldn’t be hard for him once he learns the offense.

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