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Hue Jackson on Palmer arm strength concerns: “You’ve got to be kidding me”

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New Raiders quarterback Carson Palmer has been haunted by doubts about his arm strength since he spurned Tommy John surgery on his injured throwing elbow in favor of rest and rehab during the 2009 offseason. Palmer’s passes seemed to flutter in his final year with the Bengals, lacking velocity and leading to 20 interceptions.

ESPN’s Friday report that Palmer won’t start in Week Seven, after it was initially reported he would, included the detail that Palmer “felt he’s not ready to make those high-velocity throws yet.”

Palmer wasn’t just sitting on the couch before his trade to the Raiders. He’s been working out with former NFL quarterback Ken O’Brien in anticipation of a move. Palmer’s body may not be in “football shape,” but the velocity of his passes shouldn’t be a concern, assuming his elbow has healed. He’s been throwing the ball.

Raiders coach Hue Jackson was asked to address speculation that Palmer’s arm may be a problem following Friday’s practice.

You’ve got to be kidding me,” replied Jackson, according to the Oakland Tribune. “He’s throwing the ball like you wouldn’t believe. Trust me, if he’s out there … I mean, we wouldn’t have signed him if he couldn’t throw.

“I get surprised at those kinds of questions because I would never put the guy on the team or [trade] draft picks like that if he couldn’t throw the ball or he could not do or be what I think he has the potential to be.”

NFL.com’s Steve Wyche reported Friday evening that the Raiders will start Kyle Boller against the Chiefs, so it appears Palmer won’t have the opportunity to ease concerns about his arm power and passing velocity until Week Nine.

The Raiders have a Week Eight bye.

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  1. thejuddstir says: Oct 21, 2011 10:08 PM

    I’ve always liked Hue Jackson but I’m starting to wonder if he isn’t losing it as he becomes more like Rex Ryan ever since signing Palmer, as he has went gaga over a very questionable QB.

  2. realnflmaster says: Oct 21, 2011 10:11 PM

    This guys starting to get annoying. He talks more than Rex. Make the playoffs or do something of significance. All you’ve been on is losers. Bobby Petrino’s Failcons, the bungles and now the Faiders.

    Piss off.

  3. kevraiders says: Oct 21, 2011 10:12 PM

    Hue is no dummy ..his evaluation of talent and ability are as good as any in the NFL …20 ints last year seems like alot but watching alot of NFL showz me that all those pics were because of lack of arm strength.

  4. iambadkid says: Oct 21, 2011 10:15 PM

    who what where? oh right carson palmer right odd

  5. tatum064 says: Oct 21, 2011 10:18 PM

    realnflmaster says:
    Oct 21, 2011 10:11 PM
    This guys starting to get annoying. He talks more than Rex. Make the playoffs or do something of significance. All you’ve been on is losers. Bobby Petrino’s Failcons, the bungles and now the Faiders.
    =============================
    Dont worry your smashdown is coming whatever bandwagon a$% team you cheer for.

    RAIDER NATION!

  6. tatum064 says: Oct 21, 2011 10:20 PM

    thejuddstir says:
    Oct 21, 2011 10:08 PM
    I’ve always liked Hue Jackson but I’m starting to wonder if he isn’t losing it as he becomes more like Rex Ryan ever since signing Palmer, as he has went gaga over a very questionable QB.
    ============================
    I agree, but a team needs to have a coach that believes in it, and media (at least the Bay Area) loves a coach that can communicate with some flair. As long as he can win and change that culture…Welcome to HueJack City.

  7. kinggw says: Oct 21, 2011 10:21 PM

    Hue, you didnt sign him, you traded for him. I will never understand why the Raiders didnt go after Vince Young. It probably would have cost them a 4th or 5th round pick and if he sucked its no big deal, he’s on a one year deal.

    Ultimately, Jackson may prove to be a genius but he should understand that there are plenty of questions surrounding Palmer since he hasnt been above average for the past five years.

  8. juzthadoginme says: Oct 21, 2011 10:22 PM

    Hmmm…Boller starts the Raiders are down by 14,,with 3 min to go and ……NO WAY ! ….Palmer comes in and leads them to the win.,
    can’t make this stuff up
    GO BROWNS

  9. gb4mn0 says: Oct 21, 2011 10:23 PM

    What we need is a rube from the MN Lavender Larries to chime in with their sublime football insight so we all can draw from their erudite knowledge on all things Carson Palmer. After all their squad is 1-5. Certainly the breath of their football knowledge is infinite.

  10. raidernation3739 says: Oct 21, 2011 10:29 PM

    realnflmaster sound like an un-educated hater, not an NFL master. i bet you’re really good at fantasy football ha ha.

  11. jamie54 says: Oct 21, 2011 10:29 PM

    Hue Jackson, wait, WR coach with Cincy, who did what while he was there? Oh, Yeah.

  12. Chairman Al says: Oct 21, 2011 10:31 PM

    realnflmaster says:
    Oct 21, 2011 10:11 PM
    This guys starting to get annoying. He talks more than Rex. Make the playoffs or do something of significance. All you’ve been on is losers. Bobby Petrino’s Failcons, the bungles and now the Faiders.

    ——–

    Whoever started this trend of thinking its cute to give teams “nicknames”, its really not that clever. Yes, we’ve all heard Faiders and bungles. Good for you. Failcons? Its apparently not hard to become the realnflmaster these days.

  13. humb0lt says: Oct 21, 2011 10:36 PM

    I heard Palmer’s been working on his golf game.

    Go Bolts!

  14. marcsasharc says: Oct 21, 2011 10:38 PM

    Hue Jackson is starting to sound dumb, and since hes basically in charge in Oakland it likely wont stop. Palmer’s arm strength is below average and everyone knows that.

    the point that Palmer isnt ready to make those “high velocity throws” is alarming to me. i mean, hes a QB and hes been working out….so whats the problem, Carson?

  15. raider23mike says: Oct 21, 2011 10:38 PM

    Palmer 20 INT. in 2010. Is that what makes him a QB that has lost a step? So D.Brees throws 22 INT and nobody hears a word from it.

    One has made the Aints the Saints FINALLY!!

    While the other is too.. About to get his opportunity with a new first time head coach, city & team also playing emotional Football (not Katrina but Al Davis) .

    Trust me, a lot of us thought Drew Brees was done coming out of SD with a broken shoulder. Reason Dolphins chose Dante over him.

    Give Carson a Chance

  16. realnflmaster says: Oct 21, 2011 10:40 PM

    tatum064 says: Oct 21, 2011 10:18 PM
    Dont worry your smashdown is coming whatever bandwagon a$% team you cheer for.

    RAIDER NATION!
    =============================
    Lol too bad we won’t get to smash you in the playoffs because your walking corpse team won’t even be there.

    BALTIMORE BEATDOWN!

  17. thetruth619 says: Oct 21, 2011 10:46 PM

    People don’t seem to understand. Hue’s job is to win. The first step to that, is to change the culture back to what it was. The first step to changing the culture, is to show how confident he is in his team, and in himself and his coaching staff. That confidence will trickle down to the players.

  18. redrifle14 says: Oct 21, 2011 10:51 PM

    Palmers arm strength will be fine. Its his decision making that will cause his brief stint in Oakland to be a failure. His habit of throwing in double and triple coverage will wear out his welcome there. For all of those Raider Idiots, all I have to say is keep drinking your Hue Jackson Kool Aid Suckers!

  19. trbowman says: Oct 21, 2011 10:52 PM

    One of the worst trades in NFL history

  20. someidiotfromouthereintheprojects says: Oct 21, 2011 10:53 PM

    best trade in history…chew that up, swallow it, and digest it without choking or laughing or throwing up on yourself.

  21. 7pints says: Oct 21, 2011 10:57 PM

    Can’t wait for the blow up. Hue (normally known as Hugh) says what he is supposed to say, but Jokeland is in for a rude awakening. Coach is almost as out of touch with reality than the gangsta fan base. Almost.

  22. failcopter says: Oct 21, 2011 11:03 PM

    Ummm….. The media is chasing it;s tail over the whole Palmer starting thing. He’s entitled to laugh at them.

  23. realitypolice says: Oct 21, 2011 11:05 PM

    Kind of makes more sense to wait until after the by week to give him 3 full weeks to get ready to play than to rush him in after 3 practices.

    Of course you set yourself up for second guessing when you tell everyone that he’s going to start and then reverse yourself the next day.

  24. therealsmiley says: Oct 21, 2011 11:07 PM

    Carson has an arm. Don’t you worry about that. Hail!

  25. beauregard says: Oct 21, 2011 11:10 PM

    I didn’t know what to think of Hue when he first started either. The view from over here in Bronco land looks like he has the ship upright and headed in the right direction though.
    Maybe someday all of the AFC West will return and we can be the toughest division once again.
    Getting McDaniels out of Denver was a good start.

  26. dbellina says: Oct 21, 2011 11:11 PM

    Looks like the beer muscles are still working.

  27. sromgrom says: Oct 21, 2011 11:16 PM

    I’m pretty sure Hue Jackson sounds like a fraud in his locker room post-games…

    Don’t like him, and yes, I do think he’d be stupid enough to make such a risky trade…

    This is gonna cost him his job, and the Raiders any chance at making the playoffs..

  28. raiderapologist says: Oct 21, 2011 11:16 PM

    Ryan and Jackson both realize they have issues at quarterback. The only difference is Jackson knows how to play it.

  29. justwinbaby29 says: Oct 21, 2011 11:19 PM

    I have a man crush on Hue Jackson.

    There’s a new era in Oakland.. the days of same old Raiders are gone.

    This season is for Al Davis.

    Just win, baby!

  30. lostsok says: Oct 21, 2011 11:23 PM

    realnflmaster says: Oct 21, 2011 10:11 PM

    This guys starting to get annoying. He talks more than Rex. Make the playoffs or do something of significance. All you’ve been on is losers. Bobby Petrino’s Failcons, the bungles and now the Faiders.

    _____________________________________

    Failcons. Bungles. Faiders.

    Another 3rd grader heard from….

  31. Ba'al from www.Cowboys-Forum.com says: Oct 21, 2011 11:28 PM

    Emmitt is debacled!!!

  32. huejackson says: Oct 21, 2011 11:29 PM

    realnflmaster says: Oct 21, 2011 10:11 PM

    This guys starting to get annoying. He talks more than Rex. Make the playoffs or do something of significance. All you’ve been on is losers. Bobby Petrino’s Failcons, the bungles and now the Faiders.

    Piss off.
    ——————————————————
    Raiders must of already destroyed ur team this year..
    Hue never talks unless he is asked a question so he is not like Rex Ryan at all..
    He believes in his team.. If a coach does not believe in his team then I wouldn’t want that to be my head coach..
    So obviously you know nothing about the Raiders or King Hue.. You see the headlines but you are to dumb to realize that is Hue answering a question..
    He just does not go up there and start saying crap for no reason..
    Raiders are going to the super bowl

  33. petehemlock says: Oct 21, 2011 11:30 PM

    I like Hue and I can see nice guy Carson reinventing himself under the burnt umbrella frame of RaiderNation. C’mon Palmer, give ‘em something to growl about.

  34. onderin says: Oct 21, 2011 11:30 PM

    Those that aren’t really liking Hue Jackson’s tone or bold way of saying things…you guys should realize he has always been like this.

    The fact that the national media attention is on him and what he specifically says compared to the first four weeks is interesting to me. The more he and the Raiders are in the main headlines, the more polarizing the opinions will become.

    I’m hoping for success with this very risky trade.

  35. 1phd says: Oct 21, 2011 11:32 PM

    Of course Hue Jackson is right and beyond questioning. Just ask Hue Jackson.

  36. conjecture101 says: Oct 21, 2011 11:33 PM

    He has a rocket arm. Get over it.

  37. qtownchawk says: Oct 21, 2011 11:37 PM

    I hope hue knows what hes doing..just like the falcons, losing those 1st round picks can make him look like a genius if it works, or set the team back for some time if it doesnt. either way it will be interesting to say the least.

    from what ive heard, carsons elbow is feeling way better, and a change if scenery could ignite a flame in him. hate or like him, hue got backed in a corner and hes swinging bac with a huge gamble. well see if it comes back to haunt oak-town.

  38. ch8878 says: Oct 21, 2011 11:39 PM

    All you haters hate while the Raiders just keep winning baby.

    Winning Duh !!

  39. piratebeard says: Oct 21, 2011 11:39 PM

    Whatever happened to those cheap shots at the Raiders silva? You’re slacking off! If a team has a winning record you can’t talk trash? oh, of course you can’t…

  40. therealsmiley says: Oct 21, 2011 11:47 PM

    His arm is sore. Next!! Hail!

  41. 1team1nation says: Oct 21, 2011 11:48 PM

    marcsasharc says:
    Oct 21, 2011 10:38 PM
    Hue Jackson is starting to sound dumb, and since hes basically in charge in Oakland it likely wont stop. Palmer’s arm strength is below average and everyone knows that.

    the point that Palmer isnt ready to make those “high velocity throws” is alarming to me. i mean, hes a QB and hes been working out….so whats the problem, Carson?

    ====================
    So, you were out in practice the other day or you were one of the high school kids he’s been throwing to? Your evaluation holds no water and you just want to fill a void in your life. Until, Carson plays a game nobody knows how his arm is…..dumbass!!!

  42. usmutts says: Oct 21, 2011 11:50 PM

    This trade will determine whether the coach is Hue Jackson or Hue Jassole.

  43. bloggingpoodlewalker says: Oct 22, 2011 12:03 AM

    First Shefter says Palmer is starting,..now he says Palmer isnt starting,…little Adam has no credibility at all, he and Mort and the rest simply guess and hope that they get some right,…Adam Shefter knows about as much as you guys no, which is nothing.

  44. bloggingpoodlewalker says: Oct 22, 2011 12:07 AM

    I meant “know” in previous entry,..but one other thing,…first all the experts say of course the Raiders should not start Palmer with only 4 days on the team,..now that he isnt starting those same losers are saying how stupid the Raiders are for not starting him….the media never fools me like they fool you guys. The Raiders have a great team and I am laughing at how its killing you all, thanks for bringing me joy.

  45. skolvikesskol says: Oct 22, 2011 12:18 AM

    The 20 ints wasn’t because of his eroding skills and he is in total football shape!!!

    - D. Mcnabb

  46. tacoslinger619 says: Oct 22, 2011 12:36 AM

    Raiders are the Pittsburg Pirates of 2011………start strong, get a big head and crash!!!!

  47. swagger52 says: Oct 22, 2011 12:40 AM

    Jim Maira here:

    Arm strength…Arm strength…Your talking Arm strength?

    Raiders sign Jason Campbell and Kyle Boller and then get Carson Palmer when Campbell goes down. Wow…I am guessing everybody is asleep on the West Coast when the games are being played on the East Coast. Because they sure didn’t see what I saw.

  48. Chargers have no rings says: Oct 22, 2011 12:56 AM

    Lol too bad we won’t get to smash you in the playoffs because your walking corpse team won’t even be there.

    BALTIMORE BEATDOWN!
    *********************************

    Im sure Baltimore will be there, then they will get ran over by the Steelers AGAIN

  49. orthodoxdj says: Oct 22, 2011 12:58 AM

    Hue Jackson is just like Rex Ryan…except he doesn’t make Superbowl predictions, has a solid running game, has a good qb, doesn’t stick his foot in his mouth, and doesn’t stick someone else’s foot in his mouth. But, yeah, other than that, pretty much the same guy.

  50. tolan04 says: Oct 22, 2011 1:10 AM

    “Raiders must of already destroyed ur team this year..”

    who did the raiders destroy exactly? I remember the Bills putting up 35 on your Raiders in the 2nd half.

    I love the Raiders fans just giving every negative response a thumbs down. Face it the trade sucked, if giving every negative comment a thumbs down will help you sleep at night go ahead.

  51. peppo879 says: Oct 22, 2011 1:27 AM

    its so funny to see all these raider haters spend more time readung upin oakland than on there own teams lol. bunch of phonies

  52. peppo879 says: Oct 22, 2011 1:35 AM

    carson palmer hasnt even played yet! ! quit being the haters that u r!! people r scared that they will b back on the top. then not only will we punk u on the field and in the parking lot. real fans! !

  53. blex64 says: Oct 22, 2011 1:40 AM

    Why would this not be a concern? Palmer’s been having various issues for half a decade. I understand Hue wants him for familiarity, but he grossly overpaid for a mediocre QB and its going to bite this franchise in the butt badly.

    Raiders going to the Super Bowl? Don’t make me laugh. They’ll be lucky to make it through the wild card round. DMC is great, but you have a terrible mismatch between your QB and your WRs, and this is a QB coming into a new team and a new system halfway through a season, when he hasn’t played football in a good nine months. You gambled your future on someone who won’t be able to deliver. Carson Palmer is 0-2 in the playoffs and has been preforming poorly for years with a great receiving corps. Why would Oakland’s useless track stars revive this?

    I love Hue Jackson, but this was an awful trade.

  54. slickster35 says: Oct 22, 2011 2:23 AM

    Hue is more and more like fat Ryans mouth everyday.

    And with whats he’s done in the league, he’s about matched fat Ryan in accomplishments too.

    None of this will end well for the worst franchise in the league.

  55. mcthompso says: Oct 22, 2011 2:38 AM

    You say a guy talks too much when the headline is based on his answer to a question? Come on with that. You’re not sick of Huge Action, you’re sick of the media covering him.

    The Raiders are young. The Raiders have been losing for a long time (other than last year). Having an energetic, enthusiastic coach, that is excited about his team really helps a youngish team that hasn’t had much success, like the Raiders. Without enthusiasm, confidence, or belief, the Raiders do not win the games against NYJ, HOU, and maybe even DEN. Hue brought these things back to Raider Nation. Will it last and be consistent? We’ll see. But to deny it is not a step in the right direction for a much maligned team is just letting subjectivity get in the way of objectivity. Look no further than the 1st place Buccaneers.

  56. david7590 says: Oct 22, 2011 2:42 AM

    Another postseason at home for the Faiders.

  57. tdk24 says: Oct 22, 2011 3:35 AM

    Hue made Flacco look good, i’m sure he can make Palmer look good too.

  58. discosucs2005 says: Oct 22, 2011 3:58 AM

    With the Chiefs record, and the Raiders run defense, why not start Boller? I don’t think people understand how difficult it can be to come in and learn a system in just a few days. The Raiders still should get a win (although the Chiefs are always capable of an upset) and this way Palmer will have almost three solid weeks to learn the system.

    I know some Raider fans might disagree, but Jason Campbell just isn’t that good. Palmer is a huge upgrade.

  59. grandpoopah says: Oct 22, 2011 5:24 AM

    Maybe Carson can still throw. The tape says otherwise, but let’s see what he does with the Raiders.

  60. ozzie8 says: Oct 22, 2011 5:40 AM

    OK, so here’s a “WHAT IF”. Probably won’t happen but what if Kyle Boller has a career game this week and throws 4 TDs, 0 Ints, 400 yards passing and wins the game. I guess he’s benched anyway. Here’s wishing Kyle the game of his life to reflect on while he is watching CP3 throw Pick 6 after Pick 6 the rest of the year.

    Just saying.

  61. 20ereedboyyyy says: Oct 22, 2011 5:49 AM

    Carson Palmer hasn’t been good since ’07, Hue Jackson should get fined for being this stupid, why not trade a 5th for Kyle Orton, who is a better QB at this stage of his career….watch out raider nation, you are in “win now” mode with the wrong QB…..at least you didn’t give up potentially two first round picks…..oh wait

  62. kwgator says: Oct 22, 2011 6:25 AM

    I’d be more worried about his pick 6 int returns.

    In Cincinnati, he had more pick sixes than Pete Rose!

  63. CKL says: Oct 22, 2011 7:47 AM

    The rest of the media I’ve heard all think Palmer did have the TJ surgery which made me think how dumb they were (or lazy). Even I knew he never did.

  64. Derty Ernie says: Oct 22, 2011 8:51 AM

    Apparently Hue now has three quarter backs that can’t throw very well, two with weak arms. He better hope that Al doesn’t fire him.

  65. bwisnasky says: Oct 22, 2011 8:58 AM

    realitypolice says:
    Oct 21, 2011 11:05 PM

    Of course you set yourself up for second guessing when you tell everyone that he’s going to start and then reverse yourself the next day.

    ————————————————

    The difference is Hue Jackson never ONCE said Carson was starting on Sunday. Al Saunders made a joke that if Carson was breathing he would be starting, but Hue himself never committed one way or another.

  66. jeremyb91 says: Oct 22, 2011 9:34 AM

    For those that believe Carson Palmer’s going to fail in Oakland based on his recent history in Cincinnati, take a look at how Jason Campbell was performing in his nearly two years in Oakland compared to what he did in Washington. Hue Jackson transformed Campbell into a more reliable QB something he’ll do with Palmer as well.

    Palmer and Hue already have a great relationship. Hue isn’t going to stand for a lot of mistakes and will make sure Carson’s on the same page. He pulled Campbell to prove a point and will pull Carson if he’s slinging it w/o regard thus causing stupid INT’s.

  67. jbaxt says: Oct 22, 2011 9:39 AM

    The Chiefs got a younger, as good, USC QB for a 2nd round pick. The faiders gave a 1st and a 2nd(we know they aren’t making the playoffs) for a older washed up QB who doesn’t live up to contracts and walking away from his teammates…

    Al’s legacy lives on, losers!

  68. essentialsausage says: Oct 22, 2011 9:51 AM

    Are you guys commenting at PFT getting it yet, that Carson Palmer stinks?

  69. scoob766 says: Oct 22, 2011 10:19 AM

    What else is Hue supposed to say, “hey, Carsons arm is shot and he can’t throw 20 yards.” No idea why this is even an article, what coach has ever traded for a QB then said he sucks?

    Nonetheless his raiders legacy and career rides on Carson and so do the raiders for the next 5 years. I believe it was a horrible trade, but the only way it pays off is if the raiders make the SB.

  70. dabutcha114 says: Oct 22, 2011 10:25 AM

    All of you Raider haters gotta understand that Hue is the real deal. Look at what he has done for the Raiders already. After that whining baby Rivers and the Bolts get smacked by the Jets and we demolish the Chiefs we will be in 1st place in our div. We don’t need Palmer to make big plays that is what Dmac is for. All we need to do is have Palmer air it out to our stud wr’s on play action. All the Raiders have been lacking is a coach with balls and a white Qb. Get ready to have your ring finger measured Hue it our time soon.

  71. jmota222 says: Oct 22, 2011 11:30 AM

    Hue Jackson is a good coach and I’m sure he wouldn’t of traded two #1 picks if the cant throw the football !! That’s just the media blowing things out if proportion as usual!!!!!!

  72. dlmcc1010 says: Oct 22, 2011 11:31 AM

    At this point in his career Carson Palmer is a pick 6 waiting to happen. The Raiders needed a QB who wont turn the ball over on the regular. This is the same reason why the Jets cant win with Mark sanchez as the QB. When you rely on defense, the running game and tiring out your opponent with smashmouth football, the last thing you want is a guy who is going to be careless with the football. I honestly think they were better off with a mediocre at best David Garrard. Less turnovers and they wouldnt have had give up the draft picks

  73. jbaxt says: Oct 22, 2011 11:50 AM

    Chiefs by 6, of course without Palmer starting you faider trolls have your excuse already built in. McClain’s going to ruin Seymour.

  74. dcrespo24 says: Oct 22, 2011 12:26 PM

    Did you compare palmer to sanchez? You must have a fever

  75. vincentbojackson says: Oct 22, 2011 12:45 PM

    “You’ve got to be kidding me” What Bengals fan said after every Palmer pick six and over-thrown receiver the past two years.

  76. humboldt420 says: Oct 22, 2011 1:55 PM

    Faider… that is such an intelligent knock on Raider fans.

    Almost as good as Queefs, when referring to KC fans.

    Seriously? The lame ass nicknames are getting borderline retarded.

    It’s the Raiders vs. the Chiefs on Sunday and it should be a good game. It’s been one of the best AFC West rivalries to date (regardless of the team’s records because both hate each other).

    Regardless of who is starting under center for Oakland, the Raiders will probably go run-heavy anyhow.

  77. jeremyb91 says: Oct 22, 2011 3:08 PM

    For any of the people who are commenting that there could be a problem with Palmer’s elbow, I guarantee you that he went through a full physical with special attention towards his elbow and knee.

    He passed his physical therefore Hue’s saying he’s healthy and has his arm after having watching him zip in practice.

    Leave the hate out of the this, simply put the Raiders and Bengals medical staff have him healthy. If they have him healthy, then any fan on this site can’t think otherwise.

    For those comparing Palmer to Cassel there is no comparison other than they both went to USC. Cassel couldn’t overtake Palmer or Leinart therefore you aren’t comparing apples to apples. Cassel is a poor man’s Palmer when he’s on and a poor man’s Leinart when he’s not.

  78. raiderapologist says: Oct 22, 2011 11:02 PM

    kinggw says: Oct 21, 2011 10:21 PM

    Ultimately, Jackson may prove to be a genius but he should understand that there are plenty of questions surrounding Palmer since he hasnt been above average for the past five years.

    I’m sure Jackson is completely surprised by your revelation.

  79. raiderapologist says: Oct 22, 2011 11:21 PM

    jbaxt says: Oct 22, 2011 9:39 AM

    The Chiefs got a younger, as good, USC QB for a 2nd round pick.

    Oakland’s defense destroyed that scrub last season. 115 yards, 2 picks, 7 sacks. He got whipped so bad he had to wear a diaper when the Ravens came in for their playoff game. He had 70 yards, 2 picks, no points in that game. 7th straight postseason loss for the Chiefs. Loser.

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