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Avril denies dirty play, points finger at Falcons

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It was an eventful Sunday for Ndamukong Suh. After a quiet start to the season, he racked up 5 tackles and a sack against Atlanta.

He got away with a post-play shove, and then was accused by the Falcons after the game for taunting Matt Ryan when Ryan was hurt. Falcons players also said defensive end Cliff Avril kicked Matt Ryan’s feet when Ryan was hurt and yelled at him.

Avril responded on Twitter.

“Come on, I’m not in the business of hurting not one guy on the field,” Avril wrote. “I would never taunt anyone on an injury . . . But if we want to talk about dirty players look at the film and see who prides themselves on being durty.”

Avril then produced a clip that showed Ryan getting hurt, with nothing of note happening after the play.

There is room for both sides to be right here. Both the Falcons offensive line and the Lions defensive line are known for playing on the edge. It’s not a surprise they didn’t get along too well Sunday.

Florio and Rodney Harrison of Football Night in America discussed whether the Lions are dirty in their 1-on-1 segment this week.

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42 Responses to “Avril denies dirty play, points finger at Falcons”
  1. gcsuk says: Oct 24, 2011 9:18 AM

    Sick of both teams. Sounding like a couple of kids in the schoolyard. Can’t SOMEBODY take the high road and just shut up?

  2. klunge says: Oct 24, 2011 9:20 AM

    Yeah, everything on the field is caught on film now, so if you’re going to make an accusation please produce the video evidence to back it up.

    Regardless if it’s true or not, why are all these players such whiny babies. “I got taunted! Boo hoo!” Grown-up 300-lb men should be a little less sensitive.

  3. norseyapper says: Oct 24, 2011 9:20 AM

    The lions have made significant improvement from previous years but the earlier smoke and mirrors victories in the 4th quater kept attention from the fact that they don’t run or stop the run well enough to win consistently.
    They want to be a trash talking big swagger team but at the end of the year with a 9-7 record they’ll be looking at the 17th pick in the draft. Improvement, but not nearly enough to warrant the big attitude.

  4. bdert says: Oct 24, 2011 9:23 AM

    The Lions aim to hurt players & use the fact th@ football is a rough sport as an excuse for deliberate injury attempts…

  5. gosuhgo says: Oct 24, 2011 9:24 AM

    Thank you..don’t you think that if suh or avril literally kicked their injured franchise qb no one on the falcons would do anything? Absurd.

  6. thetechnocrat says: Oct 24, 2011 9:24 AM

    I watched this one and the Falcons were visibly upset after the play. Funny, we didn’t get to see what transpired on the field during thetime when they showed the multiple replays of his ankle getting rolled.

    Winners don’t make a stink unless there is something worth making a stink about. From everything else they were doing before and during the game, I’m inclined to side with Atlanta on this one.

  7. primetime0552 says: Oct 24, 2011 9:26 AM

    The funny thing is Suh and Avril were not even by Matt Ryan after they play when they were ‘taunting him and kicking his feet.’ If you actually watched the game or the replay you’d know this. Also like how Suh pushing s player after the play had it’s own article and gets mentioned again here. Because pushing after the play doesn’t happen all the time in football…….

  8. Dr. Kronner says: Oct 24, 2011 9:36 AM

    I’m sick of Suh’s “post play shove” being brought up. It was nothing. Hawley shouldered him as he walked by, and Suh pushed him. It was not dirty.

  9. clintonportisheadd says: Oct 24, 2011 9:38 AM

    If one person calls you a horse ignore it. If two people call you a horse think about it. If three prole call you a horse its time to put on a saddle and ride off into the sunset.

    The Lions ARE a dirty team. That’s not debatable. The fact Schwartz came to the Lions from another indisputably dirty team (the Titans) clinches the deal.

    There’s a way to win that involves class and doesn’t involve cheating and/or dirty play. Considering the Packers are 7-0 and have done it the right way-the classy way-is it no wonder they are “America’s Team” and everyone’s favorite to win another Super Bowl?

  10. m2karateman says: Oct 24, 2011 9:38 AM

    EVIDENCE….take a look at the clip Avril gave. Neither Suh nor Avril were even close to Matt Ryan. No kicking, no standing over him….in fact Lawrence Jackson immediately begins calling over to the Atlanta sidelines for help.

    All you railing on Suh and Avril need to remember….INNOCENT until PROVEN guilty. This clip is EVIDENCE that the Falcons are LYING bastards. None of what they say is happening here.

  11. chc4 says: Oct 24, 2011 9:40 AM

    Anyone who watched this game saw how dirty Suh and Corey Williams were for Detroit. I suspect their head coach promotes that sort of nonsense. Suh got penalized twice and should’ve had at least 1 more personal foul. Great player that shouldn’t play the way he does. He’s gonna get chop blocked one of these days and I won’t feel any sympathy for him.

  12. polegojim says: Oct 24, 2011 9:48 AM

    @gcsuk – Atlanta came out with the accusations that have everyone pointing dirty little fingers at the Lions D-line.

    Should Avril and/or Suh say nothing and make it look like the Falcon whiners are telling the complete truth?

    Since when is a post in defense of yourself uncalled for?

    There is always some truth on both sides in these little debates, but both sides should be heard.

  13. scudbot says: Oct 24, 2011 9:52 AM

    Suh’s a cheap shot punk and the Lions have been known to be a bit over the top, but Atlanta’s not known as the Dirtybirds for nothing.

  14. thenewenglandpatriots12 says: Oct 24, 2011 9:52 AM

    You win some and you lose some , regardless of it being NFL football the sport we all love it is just a game and taunting another players injury is just in poor taste

  15. izlez says: Oct 24, 2011 9:54 AM

    You are right, Suh is dirty for PUSHING a guy that ran into him. It’s not like that happens 100 times in every game

  16. stinkythumbs says: Oct 24, 2011 9:54 AM

    How about you lead by example gcsuck….shut up.

  17. panther74 says: Oct 24, 2011 9:59 AM

    how can they ask Harrison about if someone is dirty? he wasn’t squeaky clean either! Suh is a dirty cat….and he is making the Lions become one of the most disliked teams in the league

  18. hcf95688 says: Oct 24, 2011 10:05 AM

    Funny how Harrison tries to ride the fence…but then says a) Suh plays “with an edge, like he did” and b) players around the league call Suh a dirty player. Both of those things make Suh a dirty player.

  19. hcf95688 says: Oct 24, 2011 10:09 AM

    Stafford is getting an MRI today. If the allegations against Suh and Avril are true, a torn ligament would be sweey irony…but then again, so will their inevitable 7-9 record.

  20. simplesimon1 says: Oct 24, 2011 10:09 AM

    Lets get this straight.

    First, the Falcons decide to show their dominance by standing right where the Lions do their pregame celebration, near the tunnel, before the game starts, and attempt their own pregame celebration. The Lions get in their faces and this is the Lions fault?

    Next, the Lions players are said to have been taunting Ryan while he was hurt and nobody from the Falcons do anything about it except whine after the game. In fact, nobody is even close to the QB when he is down. Refs and other players never heard a thing. Just White and the Center? And they are such pansies they let their franchise QB get mocked and “kicked” at while he was down? And the only video evidence shows nothing of the sort? Nice try Atlanta.

    Can’t you just be happy you beat a very decent Detroit team? With Detroit playing horrible ball yesterday you were able to sneak out of there with a win. Take it and stop whining.

    We’ll see you again in the wild card game if we ever get playing good ball again…Haha…. Accept the win and stop giving so much bulletin board material for the playoffs.

  21. simplesimon1 says: Oct 24, 2011 10:13 AM

    Also, for the line about the Lions becoming one of the most disliked teams in the NFL? Good….I couldn’t be happier. I want teams to hate the Lions. I want games to be tough and turn into a dogfight. The fact teams hate the Lions, and hate playing them, means we’re finally doing something right.

  22. shecklesmckenzie says: Oct 24, 2011 10:14 AM

    As a Falcons fan, if they did taunt him on the field, beat them on the field. Don’t go to the press. Play the game on the field and keep it out of the news. Nothing good comes from pointing fingers and it just makes you look like babies.

  23. youboettcha says: Oct 24, 2011 10:16 AM

    Nice double negative Avril, I see what you did there. ;)

  24. cjspiller12 says: Oct 24, 2011 10:26 AM

    Fact: Rodney Harrison is one of the dirtiest players to have ever played the game. Fact: Ndamukong Suh is the dirtiest player to come into the NFL since Rodney Harrison.

  25. countsnail says: Oct 24, 2011 10:32 AM

    The Falcons have no room to talk about dirty players. Dunta Robinson is one of the dirtiest players in the league right now, and he has made no effort to clean up his act.

  26. lionhunter909 says: Oct 24, 2011 10:35 AM

    When Loius Delmas hit the Falcons fullback(can’t
    recall his name) and injured his knee FOX showed
    him kneeling down making the cross. He felt really
    bad about it. Tough injury and the Lions have had
    more than their share of bad injuries over the years.
    Louis is a classy player, even tho’ I’m sure he does
    his share of trash talking.

    With all the noise in the stadium I don’t see how
    any Lions player can be accurately quoted with
    any kind of certainty. This is probably taken out
    of context. The Lions DL plays rough, and that’s
    football.

  27. leofan1234 says: Oct 24, 2011 10:37 AM

    Funny how Harrison tries to ride the fence…but then says a) Suh plays “with an edge, like he did” and b) players around the league call Suh a dirty player. Both of those things make Suh a dirty player.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    what players call him dirty? the worst offense on Suh was the facemask-shove to the ground on Jake Delhomme last year and Delhomme wasn’t mad about it. The MEDIA is calling Suh dirty just like the MEDIA hyped up the Lions.

    there is pushing and shoving in every game, yet only one ‘dirty’ player gets an article written about him. B.S.

  28. scudbot says: Oct 24, 2011 10:37 AM

    Are all the Atlanta fans in here taking swings at the Lions the same fans who mocked the Packers for complaining about late hits and cheap shots by the Dirtybirds?

  29. minnesconsin says: Oct 24, 2011 10:48 AM

    Pot, Kettle Black. The Lions are dirty, but the Falcons are just as bad. Dunta Robinson, anyone?

  30. scudbot says: Oct 24, 2011 10:54 AM

    Suh is a dirty player. See film of him knocking QBs around after plays are long over. For instance.

  31. primetime0552 says: Oct 24, 2011 11:07 AM

    Delhomme git was dirty. Dalton hit wasn’t really dirty. Suh was hitting him when he still had the ball. He just completed his hit. It looks a lit worse cause Daltons helmet flew off. It’s not like Suh launched at him or suplexed him. Can you show me any other incident where Suh knocks QBs around after the play? Are you going to bring up Cutler where Suh ‘shoved him to hard?’ Or the facemask on Ryan where it was clearly incidental? Is Suh dirty somewhat? Sure he is, what great defensive lineman isn’t????

  32. bordner says: Oct 24, 2011 11:32 AM

    Suh and Schwartz are taking what should have been a feel-good story for Detroit and the league and making everyone want to root against them.

  33. alexhutton19 says: Oct 24, 2011 11:50 AM

    “Suh and Schwartz are taking what should have been a feel-good story for Detroit and the league and making everyone want to root against them.”

    Good, F the rest of the league. Period. Suh’s reputation is all a byproduct of Media sites like this searching for an angle. It just makes me chuckle.

  34. m2karateman says: Oct 24, 2011 12:01 PM

    thetechnocrat says:
    Oct 24, 2011 9:24 AM
    I watched this one and the Falcons were visibly upset after the play. Funny, we didn’t get to see what transpired on the field during thetime when they showed the multiple replays of his ankle getting rolled.

    Winners don’t make a stink unless there is something worth making a stink about. From everything else they were doing before and during the game, I’m inclined to side with Atlanta on this one.
    ——————————————————-
    Look at the video. Did you even do that? Because if you did, you better get your eyes checked.

    Where was the kicking at his feet done? Oh, that’s right…IT DIDN’T HAPPEN. Where was Suh taunting Matt Ryan? Oh, that’s right…..HE WASN’T NEAR HIM. The ONLY Lions player by Matt Ryan was Lawrence Jackson (#94), and he was motioning to the Atlanta sidelines to come help Matt Ryan. There was no taunting, there was no kicking…..hence, the Atlanta players are LIARS.

    The Falcons were visibly upset because their QB was hurt. It had nothing to do with taunting, because there wasn’t any. It was a fabrication.

    If you have other evidence to the contrary, PLEASE…show it. But the evidence shown via this video clearly shows that ATLANTA lied.

  35. chobes68 says: Oct 24, 2011 12:34 PM

    The Falcons do seem to ‘chirp’ quite a bit. Didn’t they whine about the Packers before they played them too?

  36. chobes68 says: Oct 24, 2011 12:35 PM

    “Good, F the rest of the league. Period. Suh’s reputation is all a byproduct of Media sites like this searching for an angle. It just makes me chuckle.”

    Disagree.

    There’s video evidence every week it seems, of Suh doing dirty stuff.

  37. jutts says: Oct 24, 2011 12:36 PM

    Just remember: If you play that way and get away with it. It will come back. If someone cuts Suh’s knees, whos gonna feel sorry for him?

  38. slatetundra07 says: Oct 24, 2011 12:41 PM

    Karma’s a B….!

  39. lionsfansince85 says: Oct 24, 2011 1:36 PM

    I for one could care less if they were taunting them. I’ve been watching this Lions team get mocked and laughed off the field for 20+ years. So excuse me for not feeling sorry that our guys hurt somebody’s feelings.

  40. Chris says: Oct 24, 2011 2:08 PM

    It’s funny how so many of the people hating on the lions are the same ones who were hyping them up just a few weeks ago…

    Its true what they say “the only thing people love more then watching a star rise up, is watching them fail”

    So go ahead and hate, true lions fans will stand behind this team as its the best product we’ve had in years and know it will keep getting better and we will get ours!

    Go Lions!

  41. primetime0552 says: Oct 24, 2011 2:44 PM

    Well said Chris. There is also nor 1 person posting who wouldn’t want Suh in their team.

  42. axespray says: Oct 24, 2011 3:49 PM

    Don’t the falcon’s Oline have a reputation for cut blocking and cheapshotting players after the whistle and what not?

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