Comments on: Winds of change could be blowing in Indy

By: bozosforall

bozosforall — Wed, 26 Oct 2011 00:57:40 +0000

billharford31 says:
Oct 24, 2011 7:20 PM
Really? Manning better than Brady. Let’s talk abou that when Manning gets his third ring. Oh, wait, that won’t happen, his neck won’t allow. Sorry Colts.

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IF RINGS IS THE MEASURE, then Terry Bradshaw is better than Tom Brady.

Thanks for playing.

By: popolover

popolover — Tue, 25 Oct 2011 02:04:21 +0000

Bill you should have quit while you were ahead. It is known that one of your goals was to get in the HOF. You’ve given it up for greed and to make more money for your boys. Now you can just take that to the bank.

God willing you have been exposed.

You are a cheat and a bully and a liar.

Jimmy – that is not complicated.

By: eleventyeight

eleventyeight — Tue, 25 Oct 2011 00:58:24 +0000

As much as I respect Peyton Manning, if his neck injury is anywhere as serious as it seems, he should take a long, hard look at retirement.

Is potential paralysis or even death worth the risk just to continue his already HOF-worthy career?

I should think not.

No one should risk all that for anything so immaterial as fame or glory. Both are fleeting, as is life.

Maybe it’s time Peyton thought about coaching..

By: billharford31

billharford31 — Mon, 24 Oct 2011 23:20:33 +0000

Really? Manning better than Brady. Let’s talk abou that when Manning gets his third ring. Oh, wait, that won’t happen, his neck won’t allow. Sorry Colts.

By: billharford31

billharford31 — Mon, 24 Oct 2011 23:17:37 +0000

All this suck for Luck and the Colts topic sounds well and dandy but when you crunch some numbers you realize that the Colts are in a really big mess. Manning is scheduled to be paid 28M next year. If they draft Luck they will have to commit at least 10M to him. That puts them at 38M for two players. The salary cap thi year is 120M, say it stays the same for 2012 or increases 10%, the Colts woud pay about 30% of their cap to two players, one of which would not be a starter. Manning will not renegotiate his contract so that he can see his succesor get the $$$. Luck will certainly not take less than the pick 1 usually gets (especially with the type of hipe that surrounds him).

If they get the first pick they will face a decision of either go with Luck and cut Manning (I dont see that happening) or tank their team even more by drafting him and not being able to spend money in free agency.

This whole thing comes down to he Polians incompetent management. They created this mess, and made it worse by paying Manning while not knowing about his health issues. Manning played it right for him, cared about himself and the money but he gives a rat’s ass about the team. If I was a Colts fan I’d have one more reason to be pissed at Manning beyond those intereptions in key games over the years. Mark my words, Luck will not go to indy as long as Manning is in town

By: bozosforall

bozosforall — Mon, 24 Oct 2011 19:24:54 +0000

richm2256 says:
Oct 24, 2011 11:40 AM
For anyone who believes that missing one man – Peyton Manning – is the reason for this horrible season, take a look at the first part of this score; not the 7, I can understand that having something to do with no Manning.

I’m talking about the 62 part.

Can’t hang that on not having Peyton Manning. Granted, a Manning-led offense would have kept the Colts defense off the field and resulted in a lower score for the Saints, but come on, 62 points on the Colts defense?

REALLY????

That’s not on Peyton Manning being out, that’s on a horrible defense, one which hasn’t even lost many players, for the most part.

Caldwell is being exposed for all the flaws that Peyton Manning masked for him.

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No matter how hard you loser Patriot fans try, Peyton Manning will ALWAYS be better than Tom Brady.

By: gallops99

gallops99 — Mon, 24 Oct 2011 19:02:32 +0000

tapper0510 says:
Oct 24, 2011 12:41 PM
Draft Luck and he can sit and learn behind Manning for a couple of years. Ask Curtis Painter how that plan works out.

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There’s a difference. Painter wasn’t brought in to learn from Manning and be the future. He was brought in to be the guy they went to in garbage time at the end of the year. The Colts draft Luck to eventually take over for Peyton Manning, like the Packers did with Aaron Rodgers for Brett Favre. Andrew Luck is considered a can’t miss prospect right now, where most people didn’t even know who Curtis Painter was when he was drafted. Let him sit behind Manning and learn until Manning is ready to step aside.

By: goawayeverybody

goawayeverybody — Mon, 24 Oct 2011 18:31:41 +0000

I think a lot of people here are overlooking the fact that the Colts defense has been decimated by injuries. Add to that an inexperienced starting quarterback who can’t keep his offense on the field in a hostile environment and you have a blowout on your hands.

Do NOT forget, the Colts could have just as easily beaten the Chiefs, the Stealers, and the Buccaneers. They’re really not as bad as their record suggests, although this was most definitely a low point in the franchise.

By: nooittall

nooittall — Mon, 24 Oct 2011 18:27:15 +0000

Why doesn’t anybody get the correlation that when the Colts got to the Super Bowl, Polian ran off all of his experienced scouts, put his kid and his kid’s friends in charge. That way he could take credit for everything and there was no-one there to dispute his claims. Polian has always sucked as a talent evaluator. He had good experienced scouts in Buffalo and had them in Indy till he ran them all off in 2007 and they sucked in the draft ever since.

By: Shimmy

Shimmy — Mon, 24 Oct 2011 18:08:51 +0000

Who says the Colts have to worry about Andrew Luck right now? They need to worry about that undersized and awful defense before they can start worrying about Peyton’s successor.

By: 52crabcakes

52crabcakes — Mon, 24 Oct 2011 17:39:01 +0000

hahahahaha couldn’t happen to a better team! I hate indy and everything about them. I hate Elway, I hate Eli Manning. If it is a draft, then no one should be allowed to John Elway a team. I normally want them to lose every game 100-0 except for this year!

By: jrsmits

jrsmits — Mon, 24 Oct 2011 17:29:42 +0000

Ladies and gentlemen, Your NEW LOS ANGELOS COLTS!!

By: freedomispopular

freedomispopular — Mon, 24 Oct 2011 17:28:12 +0000

They really ought to dump everyone, including the Polian. He’s the one that built the whole team literally around one guy. And call me crazy, but if you’re a new coach and GM coming in, I’d say you just let Peyton walk and move on, he can’t have all that much left in the tank, and who knows how if he’ll even make a full recovery anyway.

By: melikefootball

melikefootball — Mon, 24 Oct 2011 17:25:33 +0000

The belief all along is Manning ran this team. Just show the mental part of the game with Manning not their the team is lost. Caldwell has always looked as if he had no control of the situation, he has made some chin scratching decesions in many games. To get whiped as bad as last night is way worse than Miami getting beat as they did. So how long does Caldwell stay?

By: ppdoc13

ppdoc13 — Mon, 24 Oct 2011 17:06:13 +0000

Love that it the colts. Took the fans a few years to sell out their stadium with manning. If they somehow don’t suck enuf 4 luck, they will be playing in front of half empty stadiums within a year of manning retiring. Next thing u no Jimmy will be calling mayflower again

By: killxswitch

killxswitch — Mon, 24 Oct 2011 16:56:39 +0000

dhousejr says: Oct 24, 2011 11:48 AM

The guy who writes for Stampede Blue hates the Polians , I can only figure he must be in his early 20′s and never suffered through the 2-14 ,1-15 seasons pre Polian. I agree we need a hole new coaching staff
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What does that have to do with wanting Polian gone? He is past his age of effectiveness. His past accomplishments have nothing to do with his ability to run the team now. He built this terrible team. He should be held accountable for it.

By: killxswitch

killxswitch — Mon, 24 Oct 2011 16:55:30 +0000

cakemixa says: Oct 24, 2011 10:26 AM

Dolts.
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Don’t call us that!

We have no D. 62-7 should prove that.

By: bradybbgoat

bradybbgoat — Mon, 24 Oct 2011 16:53:12 +0000

I hate the idea of keeping lame duck coaches, so I think the Colts should fire Jim Caldwell’s corpse and continue with an interim assistant. (How about Manning, haha).

This year should be used for evaluation purposes. Figure out which direction you want to go as an organization and which players and personnel are going to fit that going forward. I believe that moving on without the Polians may be in the Colts’ best interests, as well as more than half of the roster.

With the “talent” they have assembled they should easily land the number 1 pick.

Draft Andrew Luck, keep Peyton Manning. This is an offensive driven league. Don’t trade Luck for picks, keep him. How much does it matter what teams like the Patriots, Saints and Colts (before this year) have on defense? A dominant QB is 50% of a championship team! With Manning overseeing Luck’s development he will be a machine by the time Peyton is ready to retire or move on.

By: dredddog

dredddog — Mon, 24 Oct 2011 16:52:54 +0000

Jim Tressell to Indy

By: gmen1987

gmen1987 — Mon, 24 Oct 2011 16:41:57 +0000

The Colts are going to draft Luck no matter what if they get the 1st overall choice coming out. You don’t pass on a franchise QB when your current starter is a big question mark to be effective when he returns (if he returns).

Ask the Miami Dolphins what’s it’s like trying to get a replacement for Dan Marino.

By: tapper0510

tapper0510 — Mon, 24 Oct 2011 16:41:54 +0000

Draft Luck and he can sit and learn behind Manning for a couple of years. Ask Curtis Painter how that plan works out.

By: mjzaky

mjzaky — Mon, 24 Oct 2011 16:36:52 +0000

IMO The Polians should have been fired a long time ago. They have a history of failed/subpar first and second round picks that have been crippling a franchise with arguably the best QB to ever play the game. Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady have a smart front office around them; Peyton has done it all himself. To prove my case I give a couple pieces of evidence: Joseph Addai, Anthony Gonzalez, Donald Brown, Jerry Hughes, the 2011 secondary (why let go of Kelvin Hayden and Justin Tryon? Came back to bite them, big time). I understand that they’ve found some nice players in later rounds but no franchise can afford to miss big on first round picks four times in four shots like that. Addai might not be a ‘miss’ per se but he’s been mediocre at best.

As for Caldwell, that timeout taken in the Jets playoff game was the final straw for me. It let the Jets win the game and was 100% illogical and unexplainable.

As for those of you crowning Andrew Luck and saying Peyton Manning is done, that’s ridiculous. Let Luck play a down before he’s anointed- and I would bet my mortgage on Peyton Manning coming back to the league and being better than ever before. Drafting a QB to be your franchise guy for 10-15 years makes perfect sense, but that doesn’t equate to Peyton being done as QB just because it ‘fits’, let’s not be crazy.

By: bunjy96

bunjy96 — Mon, 24 Oct 2011 16:07:26 +0000

Cowher to Miami, Fisher to Indy.

By: gallops99

gallops99 — Mon, 24 Oct 2011 15:57:46 +0000

I don’t think Manning would have won this game for the Colts, but he sure would have made it closer. The Colts passed for 97 yards last night. They had 3 turnovers. It’s tough to stay in a game if you can’t move the ball. The Saints had the ball for 38:19 compared to 21:41 for the Colts. The offense is a major problem for the Colts because they don’t keep the defense off the field.

I think the Colts will end up being the worst team in the NFL when it’s all said and done. I think the best thing they can do is draft Andrew Luck and have him sit behind Peyton Manning for a few years and learn from probably the best QB of our time, if not all time. Then when Manning is ready to walk away from the game or the Colts, Luck steps in and takes over like Rodgers did in Green Bay, which seemed to work out for him.

By: occamssabre

occamssabre — Mon, 24 Oct 2011 15:56:32 +0000

Peyton Manning has hidden the lack of drafting ability by Bill Polian. He should thank Peyton Manning every day he still has a job!

By: dhousejr

dhousejr — Mon, 24 Oct 2011 15:48:33 +0000

By: Robert

Robert — Mon, 24 Oct 2011 15:46:18 +0000

All this confusion for Luck?

By: thetechnocrat

thetechnocrat — Mon, 24 Oct 2011 15:44:42 +0000

Here’s a look at the Manning effect as through the years of Polian:

Indianapolis Colts
Pro Bowlers – 13
Super Bowls 1-1
Playoffs 9-10
Years 99-00, 02-08, 10
Rounds
Best 1st (7)
Worst 4th/7th (0)

1997 OT Tarik Glenn California 1st (19)
LB Bertrand Berry Notre Dame 3rd (86)
1998 QB Peyton Manning Tennessee 1st (1)
1999 RB Edgerrin James Miami 1st (4)
2000 LB Marcus Washington Auburn 2nd (59)
2001 WR Reggie Wayne Miami 1st (30)
2002 DE Dwight Freeney Syracuse 1st (11)
2003 TE Dallas Clark 1st (24)
DE Robert Mathis Alabama A&M 5th (138)
LB Cato June Michigan 6th (198)
2004 SS Bob Sanders Iowa 2nd (44)
2006 RB Joseph Addai LSU 1st (30)
S Antoine Bethea Howard 6th (207)

I think it’s clear the Colts should move on. Polian hasn’t found a good young star in years and the team is clearly outmatched without Manning. New coach and gm. Could they cajole Tom Moore perhaps?

By: fran021

fran021 — Mon, 24 Oct 2011 15:44:38 +0000

cardmagnet said:
The Colts have never won because of coaching; they won because of Peyton Manning’s skill and filling in as an offensive coordinator. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

And some people said Manning was a team player. This is a perfect example of what a team player is not.

By: richm2256

richm2256 — Mon, 24 Oct 2011 15:40:31 +0000

For anyone who believes that missing one man – Peyton Manning – is the reason for this horrible season, take a look at the first part of this score; not the 7, I can understand that having something to do with no Manning.

I’m talking about the 62 part.

REALLY????

That’s not on Peyton Manning being out, that’s on a horrible defense, one which hasn’t even lost many players, for the most part.

Caldwell is being exposed for all the flaws that Peyton Manning masked for him.