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Pete Carroll not pleased with officials after Seahawks’ loss

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Seattle didn’t have many highlights in Sunday’s dreadful 6-3 loss to Cleveland. And Seahawks coach Pete Carroll is angry that the one play that would have been a highlight was called back on a penalty that Carroll says shouldn’t have been called.

Leon Washington returned a punt for an 81-yard touchdown that could have won the game for the Seahawks, but Kennard Cox was called for a block in the back. Carroll thinks the officials botched that one.

I didn’t think that was a call that should have been made,” Carroll said. “That was unfortunate.”

Carroll said that in the heat of the moment on the punt return, the officials threw a flag when there was minimal contact and it should have been allowed to go.

“There’s a lot of calls that happen at light speed out there that are challenging to call, and that was one,” Carroll said. “Unfortunately it was the play of the game for us. It was our touchdown in this game, and it got away from us.”

So the Seahawks’ special teams lost their touchdown and Carroll isn’t happy. Now he needs to turn his attention to fixing an offense that failed to get into the end zone and averaged 2.7 yards a play against the Browns.

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  1. The Prophet says: Oct 25, 2011 9:38 AM

    I’ve noticed refs seem to be calling that “illegal block in the back” a little more often these days. Don’t know if its just happens more because of the new placement or if its some sort of referee effort to counter excitement because of the new placement, but it does seem to come with more frequency

  2. glac1 says: Oct 25, 2011 9:42 AM

    He should be more concerned with his teams offense.

  3. TheDPR says: Oct 25, 2011 9:44 AM

    They don’t use Leon Washington enough. 7 carries for 39 yards is a pretty good average, especially beside Forsett’s 2.5 ypc average.

    Leon needs 15-20 touches a game.

  4. dickroy says: Oct 25, 2011 9:45 AM

    To whine must be a Seattle thing.

  5. pacificnw7722 says: Oct 25, 2011 9:48 AM

    “Unfortunately it was the play of the game for us. It was our touchdown in this game, and it got away from us.”

    It was our touchdown in this game??

    You need to start thinking about how this offense can get many touchdowns in games that you coach!

  6. johnnyglutes says: Oct 25, 2011 9:59 AM

    Pete Carroll is a loser. Go Browns!

  7. wallacejay says: Oct 25, 2011 10:07 AM

    I’m sure the refs weren’t pleased to have to officiate such a crappy game.

  8. savocabol1 says: Oct 25, 2011 10:07 AM

    Who knows what the outcome of the game would have been if that counted? It is a whole different mentality at that point. I am sick of these players/fans that use those tired excuses of “well if this play/call would have or wouldn’t have happend then we win the game”

    What about all the terrible non-calls? Seahawks CBs were all over CLE WR like white on rice. There were a couple of non-roughing the passer calls the Seahawks got away with too.

    Stop complaining. You lost. Accept it.

  9. maryannwiththeshakyhands says: Oct 25, 2011 10:18 AM

    I’m a Browns guy and I agree he/Seahawks got screwed, that was no block in the back. It was all a matter of the angle the ref must have had. The Browns player was actually diving for Washington’s legs and it gave the appearance he was pushed in the back. I like a win just like everyone else but not like that. What a dreadful game to watch all the way around.

  10. joetoronto says: Oct 25, 2011 10:19 AM

    Pete Carroll should be happy he’s in the NFL at all and stop complaining.

  11. demonspank says: Oct 25, 2011 10:33 AM

    Good news, Pete!

    If this NFL thing doesn’t work out, you can always go coach in the NCA…. oh.

  12. blantoncollier says: Oct 25, 2011 10:36 AM

    Yo Pete–This is the NFL..you get some calls and some you dont. This isnt USC where you are paying the Refs!

  13. gallogj says: Oct 25, 2011 10:44 AM

    He’s right…the refs were blind in this game…they botched a roughing the passer call in the game too. His guy’s helmet never even touched McCoy. Oh well…we’ll take it! It’ll prolly be our last win.

  14. seahawks4alltime says: Oct 25, 2011 10:50 AM

    “To whine must be a Seattle thing.”

    Look, if this play happened to any other team the coach would be saying the same thing. The call should not have been made. It was a phantom block in the back and replay shows that. Regardless of how many touchdowns a team scores, when one comes back and a lousy call you have to call out the people who blew the call.

  15. trollhammer20 says: Oct 25, 2011 10:54 AM

    It was more than just one call. There was also a clear PI call in the end zone on a third down play, where Ward’s hand clearly grabs Morrah’s arm and pulls before the ball arrives.

    Can’t say that one turned the game, though, because even with four chances from the one, Whitehurst probably would have found to be held to a field goal.

    This was one of the worst games I’ve ever watched, both in terms of the play of the teams and the actions of the officiating crew. This game is another in a long line of examples as to why full-time refs are needed.

  16. sipeberniecolt says: Oct 25, 2011 11:00 AM

    One thing not mentioned on what was, by all accounts a lousy illegal block call on the punt return. When the ball was in the air the announcers clearly stated, (not verbatim), “Washington awaiting the punt, he’s got his hand in the air”. Obviously signaling a fair catch. Then he takes off with it! Of course it goes for a touchdown and the game is then supposedly “decided” by the refs due to the blown call. What about running after signaling fair catch?

  17. bozosforall says: Oct 25, 2011 11:00 AM

    I see that Pete Carroll still hasn’t lost the whiny behavior that he learned while he was the head coach in New England and cultivated as the head coach of the University of Spoiled Children.

  18. marcsasharc says: Oct 25, 2011 11:03 AM

    whats your deal, Pete?

  19. anhdazman says: Oct 25, 2011 11:10 AM

    He has every right to be upset, that was a horrible penalty.

    On another note, it’s Pete Carroll, he’s not going to be any better, maybe worst than Pete Carroll at NE or SD.

  20. boisebob says: Oct 25, 2011 11:45 AM

    We were all born crying but some of us got over it. The best personnel move that Carroll could make would be to get rid of Carroll.

  21. ninerdynasty says: Oct 25, 2011 11:47 AM

    I sort of agree with Pete, this officiating crew is the worst ive seen in a while. They called the niner-lions game too and they were just plain horrible. They need to be looked at.

    Now, as for the complaining.. dude, you have betters things to worry about, your team was only able to score 3 points… Submit your weekly complains to the league and get back to work..

  22. seahawks4alltime says: Oct 25, 2011 11:52 AM

    “What about running after signaling fair catch?”

    I remember exactly what you’re referring to, but you are not representing it right at all. Mora was talking, at that point in time, about the sun playing a factor, and Leon Washington had his hand up to block the sunlight from his eyes. That’s what they were talking about. It’s “not verbatim” but my representation is closer than yours. He was not signaling for a fair catch. It was obvious that he was blocking the sunlight and NOT calling for a fair catch.

  23. superbowlseahawks says: Oct 25, 2011 11:56 AM

    All of you people saying he needs to worry about his offense scoring, instead of whining, are idiots. Try taking your starting QB, RB, TE, and Center out for a game and see how many points your team scores.

  24. trickbunny says: Oct 25, 2011 11:59 AM

    Did Pete Carroll talk about how one of the Seattle defenders committed blatant pass interference in the end zone against a Browns receiver that wasn’t called? No? He forgot to mention that one? How convenient.

    That play may have robbed the Browns of a TD just like the “block in the back” robbed the Seahawks of one. There. Now everything’s even. Quit whining.

  25. norseyapper says: Oct 25, 2011 12:07 PM

    The League decided to try and prevent injuries in the return game. They moved the kickoffs up 5 yards and they apparently have told the officials to call everything possible on kickoff and punt returns. I don’t know what the percentage of penalties called in punt returns (non touch back or fair catch) but it seems like it is over 50%. They are calling penalties for what MIGHT have happened rather than what they see.

  26. caseyrose23 says: Oct 25, 2011 12:08 PM

    If any of you heard the interview you would have a different view. Pete was asked about the call and he gave the officials credit that it was a hard call cause the angles. He also said that his team should never have been in a position to let that call affect their game. The quote that smith used was a snippet from a 20 min interview. It was a poorly officiated game, both sides of the ball. As to the Seahawk DB’s being all over the Brown WR, thats laughable. Either way it was a terrible game, whose outcome was changed by a poor officiating crew.

  27. seahawks4alltime says: Oct 25, 2011 12:15 PM

    “Quit whining.”

    Take your own advice. Most folks here are simply saying that no one likes to see the refs make such a difference in the outcome of a game. If the game had been called properly then it would have been a better game between two teams that just didn’t play well offensively.

  28. sipeberniecolt says: Oct 25, 2011 12:21 PM

    Seahawks4alltime,

    You may be right about that. How I remember it was they mentioned an issue with the sun being a problem before the ball was even kicked though. They did not say, “he’s got his hand up to shield the sun in order to field the ball”. It was simply, “He put his hand up”, while the ball was in the air. In either case I thought the officiating stunk. I agree with ninerdynasty about this crew. They are horrible. When the game first started and I saw who the crew was I said to myself, look for lots of flags in this game. The head official just can’t get enough face time on tv it seems, hence the flags strewn all over the field all game long.

  29. ripcityhawkhead says: Oct 25, 2011 12:25 PM

    the fix is easy, don’t let Whitehurst near the field anymore, move Josh Portis to the #2

  30. ripcityhawkhead says: Oct 25, 2011 12:31 PM

    to the guy that said Seattle was all over the Browns WR’s is crazy, dude doesn’t know that within 5 yards you can mix it up, Colt’s 2 passes father than that were an int and a dropped int, Sidney Rice on the other hand was getting held and interfered with on every play. Then our one pass in the endzone they even slow mo’d the replay to show his arms were hit before the ball was there. Game tape don’t lie.

  31. vikesfan67 says: Oct 25, 2011 12:41 PM

    What a cry baby!! Should worry about his terrible teams preformance!!

  32. august589 says: Oct 25, 2011 12:41 PM

    Losers blame the officials. Winners play through calls, good and bad.

  33. seahawks4alltime says: Oct 25, 2011 12:42 PM

    It was indeed a horrible example of officiating. And the Seahawks can’t play like that and expect to not be a laughing stock. But the best point made so far out of all these comments is the one made by superbowlseahawks… Take out any team’s starting QB, RB, TE, and Center and see how they play. That is a GREAT point. I don’t know of a team with depth enough to compensate for that kind of situation.

    All that being said, Charlie Whitehurst screwed the pooch against the browns. I love the Seahawks and I really wanted to see Charlie do well, but he really stunk it up and so bad officiating really ate away at what little we had going for us.

  34. hawkman84 says: Oct 25, 2011 12:52 PM

    The league needs to start fining these refs for erroneous calls since its so fine-happy nowadays.

    It’s been too many times the refs have made a severe impact on a game with horrible phantom calls, or more frequently, PI calls/non-calls.

    Fine these refs and hold them responsible for adversely affecting the outcome of a game.

    If the league fines players for every little thing just for them playing, they need to fine the refs for blowing it.

    At the very least, Jon Gruden made a very very very great point last week when he proposed that coaches should have the ability to challenge questionable PI calls/non-calls because they are the most frequent calls that have the biggest impact on a game.

    I’m tired of these refs, start finin’ em!

  35. P_Willy says: Oct 25, 2011 12:58 PM

    superbowlseahawks says:
    Oct 25, 2011 11:56 AM
    All of you people saying he needs to worry about his offense scoring, instead of whining, are idiots. Try taking your starting QB, RB, TE, and Center out for a game and see how many points your team scores.

    ___________________________

    Tavaris sucks
    Lynch sucks
    Miller wasn’t even getting used
    and don’t know ur centers name but he likely sucks too.

    Accept the fact that ur team sucks – sure a few talented players scattered around but that’s that.

    As a niner’s fan, i’ve dealt with this same sentiment for a very long time too. Even @ 5-1 we’re still trying to prove something.

    It’s hard to defend againsts the masses when ur team isn’t putting up a good product on the field – but all u can do is support it if ur a true fan, and i’m sure you are. Blown calls all over the league, it won’t be the first and hardly the last.

    Good luck,

    from someone who’s been walking in those shoe’s for a very long time.

  36. paulbrownsrevenge says: Oct 25, 2011 1:07 PM

    Probably the Browns last win this year. Sweet mother of mercy help the Browns!!!!

  37. marcsasharc says: Oct 25, 2011 1:08 PM

    i love seahawk fans complaining about the refs when they gave up 6 points and still lost. 1 or 2 or 10 calls didnt affect the game, the offensive being offensive did.

    you sound like a bunch of losers.

  38. seahawks4alltime says: Oct 25, 2011 1:20 PM

    i love people that have nothing better to say than call everyone else “losers”. Real classy.

  39. comeonnowguys says: Oct 25, 2011 1:21 PM

    Hey Pete, “What’s your deal?”

  40. batterychucker25 says: Oct 25, 2011 1:37 PM

    Fans that attended this game should get a full refund. Pathetic.

  41. BrownsTown says: Oct 25, 2011 1:41 PM

    That’s what happens when you hold off announcing injuries until kickoff. Gamblers and Fantasy Footballers run this here joint, so you’d better recognize.

  42. BrownsTown says: Oct 25, 2011 1:42 PM

    And tell me again what Carroll gave up for Whitehurst?

    It’s not easy when you don’t have the 5 star pipeline to your college, is it?

  43. TIM says: Oct 25, 2011 1:51 PM

    Everyone knows that the refs in the NFL are horrible and they are even more horrible this season with all the stupid new rules they need to TRY to enforce. Every team can complain that they lost a game or at least a chance to win a game because of horrible calls.
    The Niners would be undefeated if not for a flat out horrible call of a D lineman lining up in the neutral zone. The replay showed he was NOT off sides at all and the next play he was lined up in exactly the same spot and nothing was called .Too bad that it was 4th down and the Boys were punting,if not for that bogus call and too bad for the Niners that the Boys scored on a long pass play on the very next play(that never would have happened if they punt !). The Niners woulda,shoulda,coulda,won that game ,but the refs messed up and we paid for it.
    BUT every team can cry like that about the sorry refs,so stop crying Pete Carrol and start performing your job MUCH better,like Jim Harbaugh IS doing in SF !

  44. steevo2907 says: Oct 25, 2011 4:05 PM

    You scored 3 points, you suck.

  45. philsimmsisadouche says: Oct 25, 2011 6:05 PM

    Is there something in the water in Seattle that makes football coaches bitch about officiating instead of concentrating on the things the team is supposed to do and has control of like offensive execution, for example? Catching the ball, blocking and converting 3rd downs might help too.

  46. cup1981 says: Oct 25, 2011 6:27 PM

    And the Seahawk faithful do what they do best… Whine in unison. Whaaa that wasn’t a penalty whaa.

  47. savannahrose44 says: Oct 27, 2011 5:31 AM

    sipeberniecolt says:
    Oct 25, 2011 12:21 PM
    Seahawks4alltime,

    You may be right about that. How I remember it was they mentioned an issue with the sun being a problem before the ball was even kicked though. They did not say, “he’s got his hand up to shield the sun in order to field the ball”. It was simply, “He put his hand up”, while the ball was in the air. In either case I thought the officiating stunk. I agree with ninerdynasty about this crew. They are horrible. When the game first started and I saw who the crew was I said to myself, look for lots of flags in this game. The head official just can’t get enough face time on tv it seems, hence the flags strewn all over the field all game long.

    ————————————————–

    The signal for a fair catch is not a player raising their hand in the air to block the sun. The signal for a fair catch is a player raising their hand above their head and moving it from side to side and back again. This rule was implemented so officials could tell the difference between a player calling for a fair catch and a player trying to see the ball. Leon Washington was blocking the sun.

  48. savannahrose44 says: Oct 27, 2011 5:42 AM

    BrownsTown says:
    Oct 25, 2011 1:42 PM
    And tell me again what Carroll gave up for Whitehurst?

    It’s not easy when you don’t have the 5 star pipeline to your college, is it?

    Since when is swaping 2nd round picks in 2011 and a 3rd rounder we got in trade from another team a bad deal?

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