Carson Palmer “can’t see” T.O. coming to Oakland

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Last year, Terrell Owens caught 72 passes as a member of the Cincinnati Bengals, where Carson Palmer was the starting quarterback.  Recently, Palmer was working out with Owens.  But now that Palmer is a Raider and Owens is ready to play, Palmer isn’t interested in a reunion.

“T.O. and I had a great working relationship, he had one of his most successful years over the past five or six years, a lot of production and he was a great teammate in Cincinnati,” Palmer told 95.7 The Game.  “The problem is that for him to get here there’s not anybody that we could let go, we have a stable of young horses that can run and guys that can just move, very young, very inexperienced but tons of potential and it’s tough to give up a young guy with a lot of potential for a guy that’s got a lot of history in the league that’s in his late 30s, so I can’t see him coming here but I had a good time playing with him and he’s an explosive player himself.”

Sorry, but if Palmer thought that Owens would make the team better, Palmer would suggest that Owens replace Derek Hagan, a 27-year-old journeyman who has only 11 catches in six games.  Maybe Palmer has seen that T.O. simply doesn’t have it any longer.  Or maybe Palmer got more than a bellyful of T.O. during their one season together in Cincinnati.

Either way, the fact that his most recent starting quarterback doesn’t want T.O. will make it even harder for another team and another starting quarterback to welcome Owens with open arms.

83 responses to “Carson Palmer “can’t see” T.O. coming to Oakland

  1. **(Fill in the blank)** can’t see TO coming to **(Fill in the blank)**.

    There… that takes care of the rest of it.

  2. Oh please, it doesnt matter what Carson says, he was just being polite,..look at Owens media tryout yesterday or whenever that was,..NO TEAM showed up and his agent even admitted hes received no calls,…TO you are done in the NFL,…try to be one of those idiot ex jocks on a studio set,..heck I will watch.

  3. Send him over to San Francisco. Alex Smith has taken plenty more hate over the years than Owens can dish out and did it with a smile. He can still easily out produce crabtree and they could slide crabs into the slot. Wow I can’t believe I just openly endorsed T.O. when the team os already 5-1 no less. I need to go lay down lol

  4. What? Derek Hagan? They have DHB, Denarious Moore, and Jacoby Ford that are promising young receivers, Derek Hagan doesn’t make sense to replace, that’s not at all what Carson was talking about.

  5. Or maybe Palmer can see the situation more clearly than a drama-stirring blogger. It makes no sense to dump a young guy with potential for a guy in his late 30’s in a year where Oakland has zero chance of seriously contending for a title.

  6. T.O Just isn’t good.. very talented but not a good football player…

    via Cincy Jungle:

    “A front office man points out that one of the reasons Terrell Owens will be moving on to his fourth team in four years this year is he doesn’t always run his route the way he is supposed to and he leaves a lot of gray area for the quarterback. Last year, he led the NFL in most interceptions as a targeted receiver with 12, according to Stats, Inc. What’s more, he has led the league in the category with 43 interceptions over the last five years. And another issue with T.O? He was third in the league in drops last year with 11.

    Of Palmer’s 20 interceptions, twelve were targeted at Owens. That’s not a coincidence. That’s a five-year trend of 43 interceptions on passes that’s thrown to him.”

    Only sign Owens if you know your going to lose a starting WR deep in the playoffs and want him to learn the playbook now.. ..He doesn’t care about you or football (as much as a professional ball player should).. he cares about himself.

  7. It’s amazing that T.O. can play so well and nobody wants him. In cincy he caught everything thrown his way. I think STL needs to give him a call. Surround Bradford with some veteran receivers. Floydd and T.O. on opposite sides it could work

  8. Pryor made more noise than Owens this year. Carson Palmer is money compared to Terrell. Some guy kicking another guy in the nuts is a better story line than Owens. A Chiefs fan would probably say something like, “Change your name to Ocho Donenow…lol”

  9. i think its funny. the raiders give up a small morgage for a guy that has not played well for three years yet T.O has 70 plus catches and 7 tds LAST YEAR and owens is the washed up guy! brick headed thinking, T.O has got more in the tank than palmer. he will blow in oakland and bengals fans are sooooooo happy.

  10. The key words from Carson, in describing T.O. were “… a guy with a lot of history …”. When was the last time you heard that phrase mean a good thing?

  11. Sorry, but if Palmer thought that Owens would make the team better, Palmer would suggest that Owens replace Derek Hagan, a 27-year-old journeyman who has only 11 catches in six games.
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    yeah, that definitely wouldn’t start anything in the locker room.

  12. Owens is not done. Some desperate team will make some desperate attempt to pick him up in a week or two. How well it goes remains to be seen. All you need is one team to feel like their playoff hopes are slipping away or another costly injury.

    He won’t be a Raider, though.

  13. Makes sense to me. The guy you just mortgaged your future for and threw more to the foe than to the friendlies Sunday, actually has clout. Yeah, OK and ChainHe didn’t call the shots in the Bush white house. Carson had better be worried about “buyer’s remorse” setting in.

  14. Nothing comes easy to Owens anymore. That could make him great. I don’t know, it would be a chance but I might take it. I would love to have a TO before the catch in SF from Young. The second after he seemed to change.

  15. TO should learn a lesson from Moss. While he obviously stunk it up last year atleast he didn’t try and come back just to prolong his misery. His legacy wasn’t going to get any better, he knew it, and he hung ’em up. TO should have done the same months ago.

  16. Somewhere…

    Brad Childress wonders why nobody signs this guy, because he would gladly give up a 3rd to get this guy.

  17. Derek Hagan may be 27 and have only 11 catches in 6 games.

    However… Derek does not need an attitude adjustment, or a check up from the neck up, like T.O. would if he showed up on the roster of this young group of speed monsters at W.R.

    Palmer is a wise man.

  18. First, Hagan was great in the preseason and has done a nice job whenever given the chance. He is probably our 6th receiver and contributes on special teams coverage units. He’s also more than 10 years younger than T.O.

    Bottom line: Hagan’s role is not one T.O. would want, accept or do well at.

  19. Being Palmer has been with the Raiders for a very few days–and already has 3 interceptions to his credit in basically half a game–I don’t think he’s in much of a position to suggest anybody gets replaced.

  20. TO may be a has-been, but Carson Palmer is a never-was.

    TO was the last receiver to make Carson Palmer look remotely serviceable.

    Carson Palmer could not even pave TO’s driveway.

  21. Well at least he doesn’t quit on his team and doesn’t care where he plays, he just wants to play. Carson just threw another interception during my comment.

  22. As a “bengal fan” (insert laugh), I’m glad Carson took the media circus with him, where ever he eventually landed. Good luck with the disruption, Oakland. (And they always said it was Chad that was the problem). Hopefully, the Raiders and the Bengals will meet in the playoffs. Damn, that would make for some good football!

  23. If he plays for the veteran minimum as a trial, keep his nose clean and can conceivably still make some catches and maybe mentor a rookie or two, why not give him a shot?

    Carson palmer is and always be an idiot choker with poor judgment.

  24. This Palmer comment is no damn big deal!!!!

    Wide receiver is the “new running back”!!! Why? Because you can plug one in after getting rid of another!!!! Embrace the fact that this is the softest offensive era ever and guys like Denarius Moore and Jacoby Ford can play!!!!! BTW, Darrius Heyward-Bey is on pace to catch 72 passes and 1157 yards!!!!!

  25. Carson Palmer also “cant see” defensive backs. Or you could go with he “cant see” his wrs.

  26. salvaje50 says:
    Oct 26, 2011 10:45 PM
    Well…I couldn’t see the Raiders giving up two high picks for your sorry ass, Carson….the world is just full of surprises
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    You’d still be a speed bump in the AFC North had Palmer not led you to two playoff births. You had early exits, but what the f$%k else could he do? block, tackle, too? Get over it, bitter-men.

    On the topic, on the turnovers, one was a jumped route, another bounced off of a receiver…these guys have to make plays, and believe me, they could easily IR Chad Schillens and sign T.O. in two more weeks. Those guys have to step it up – especially Denarius Moore, who has disappeared since the Jets game.

    Carson is jut being polite. – and how many bitter Bengal fans are out there – there are plenty of players who left teams they didnt want to be on.

  27. I heard the interview.boy was that quote taken out of context. Basically Palmer was saying that he never pondered the possibility of T.O. Coming over because he can’t see it happening.

    Raiders are overloaded at WR..all the WRs are so talented that we kept 6 on the roster..and Nick Miller was a hard cut, he was a special teams ace. Palmer’s just being real. There’s no room for T.O.

  28. robigd says: Oct 26, 2011 10:40 PM

    palmer, 116 yards and 3 ints. who cares what he says. the guy had one good year as a pro.

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    Come on man we aren’t robots! His career actually happened in front of our eyes! How did he have ONE good year?

    05-06 – 32td’s 12 int’s
    06-07 – 28 td’s 13 int’s
    09-10 – 21td’s 13 int’s

    His other two full yrs played were:

    07-08 26td’s 20 int’s
    10-11 26td’s 20 int’s

    The lowest completion percentage he had was 60.5. His career percentage is 62.8%! People forget some of the games he had just last year! Anyone remember that New England game to start off the year? 2 td’s 1 int 345 yds? What about against my Falcons? I was there it was crazy. 3 td’s 0 int’s 345 yds! He lit us up. He had inconsistent play at the receiver position. He will be alright.

    It’s funny how people comment on players and never even watch them play–they just go by what the media says. Formulate your own opinion. Outside of the top 5 qb’s–most qb’s won’t throw 26 td’s. They might throw 20 picks though. Carson will be alright.

  29. I’m sorry Carson actually had 412 yds against my Falcons here at the Dome last year. And when Ocho/T.O. were hurt at the end of the year against the #1 ranked defense (Chargers on Dec 26th 2010) he had his best game. 16-21 – 269 yds 4td’s and 0 int’s. So please tell me how this guy is all of a sudden washed up? Are people actually basing their opinion off of 3 days of non padded practice with a brand new team, in the middle of the year no less??!?! Some people should have to go 1 rd with Tyson bare knuckles when they make comments for the sake of commenting. smh

  30. seneca1ss says:Oct 26, 2011 10:02 PM

    If Al wasn’t in the ground right now, he’d be rolling in his grave.
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    Now there is a comment that is a contribution to society as a whole. It was educational, insightful, inspiring, and well…. motivational.

    Thank you for this … I am now “Motivated” to volunteer some of my time at a non profit organization that encourages high school drop outs to go back to school and get a G.E.D.

    You are my hero!

  31. Parson Calmer apparently couldn’t see Raiders receivers on Sunday either. All he could see was red…and white, especially when those jerseys were returning his passes the opposite direction for a score.

  32. Palmer: “it’s tough to give up a young guy with a lot of potential for a guy that’s got a lot of history in the league that’s in his late 30s”

    So speaketh the aging human interception machine.

  33. i dont know why i bother to read these posts. palmer had 3 interceptions in a half coming in off his couch. he is still the best qb on the team and knows owens better than anyone on the team so if he says he doesnt see him coming there he isnt going there. its time for T.O. to put on a suit and get an analyst job somewhere

  34. Don’t count Oakland out yet for TO…

    A few weeks ago I don’t think Carson Palmer could have seen himself vomiting the ball away for the Raiders…

  35. As much of an egotistical fool TO is, at least he lasted a whole season without melting down or becoming a cancer. Then again, it WAS the Bungles and it’s difficult to gauge any negative effects he had on the team since they were so bad. TO does work hard but does have alligator arms when the pass isn’t close and does have a history of throwing tantrums. Not worth it unless you’re desperate for a productive receiver.

  36. “cardmagnet says:
    Oct 26, 2011 10:39 PM
    I can’t see anyone coming to play with you as their QB either, Carson.”
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    Jeez, you take a team to the playoffs a couple of times..and that’s thanks you get.

  37. robigd says: Oct 26, 2011 10:40 PM

    palmer, 116 yards and 3 ints. who cares what he says. the guy had one good year as a pro.
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    I’m curious, where do you get your info from?

    Nowhere that has anything to do with the NFL, that’s for sure.

  38. Jimmy legs Palmer quit on his team mates, fans and owner in Cincinatti and hell do it again in Oakland.

  39. Rumors have it that Chad 8-5 may be released and available on the open market. Imagine a reunion with TO in Oakland! (That sound you just heard was CP jumping off the Bay Bridge)

  40. The Palmer to English translation is, “TO? Get the bleep outta here! That bleep ran the wrong routes half of the time and the rest of the time he was running his own routes”.

  41. Last year, he led the NFL in most interceptions as a targeted receiver with 12, according to Stats, Inc. What’s more, he has led the league in the category with 43 interceptions over the last five years. And another issue with T.O? He was third in the league in drops last year with 11.
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    not a t.o. fan but i’d like to say that you can twist stats any way you like to make them mean what you want.

    considering this:

    – in dallas’ offense, romo (like he still tends to do) forced the ball to terrell on many occasions. many gms faulted garret’s simplistic offense as a reason for the ints

    – in buffalo, they had no talent on the offensive line and he played with three qbs that year.

    – in cincy, he had very little time to get synced with palmer but he still led the team in yardage.

    i’m not an apologist for the guy but i hate when people break the game down to stats and use that as a validation for their arguments.

    having said all this, i wouldn’t bring terrell to my team even if he is supposedly better than some of the talent we have. talent has never been an issue for t.o., it’s been his attitude..

  42. @d3murf

    There is more to consider than just the stats you listed. As someone who watched every game of Carson’s for most of his career, I can easily say he’s not good and has been over rated as hell since the knee injury. He had a couple good games last year, but not many (3, maybe 4). The Patriots game was not a good game though (you obviously didn’t watch it), it was 3 to 24 at half time and Carson looked like crap. After half time the Patriots just let the Bengals make a bunch of easy short throws which inflated Carson’s stats.

    Carson has had one great year plus one good year. But every other season he has been complete crap.

    05 – great
    06 – good
    07 – bad
    08 – He looked horrible before being injured
    09 – bad
    10 – bad
    11 – (will be) bad

    And anyone who disagrees obviously has not watched him play

  43. Carson had to say this. He is the new guy on the team. If he started talking about other players they should be looking to bring in right away, that does not promote building a relationship with the current receivers.

    Not saying Carson does want TO in Oakland, but he had no choice but to say what he did. It’s being a good teammate.

  44. d3murf says: Oct 27, 2011 12:18 AM

    I’m sorry Carson actually had 412 yds against my Falcons here at the Dome last year. And when Ocho/T.O. were hurt at the end of the year against the #1 ranked defense (Chargers on Dec 26th 2010) he had his best game. 16-21 – 269 yds 4td’s and 0 int’s. So please tell me how this guy is all of a sudden washed up? Are people actually basing their opinion off of 3 days of non padded practice with a brand new team, in the middle of the year no less??!?! Some people should have to go 1 rd with Tyson bare knuckles when they make comments for the sake of commenting. smh

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    I am basing it on actually watching him play. But his QB Rating agrees that he’s not good anymore.

  45. tatum064 says: Oct 27, 2011 5:30 AM

    “cardmagnet says:
    Oct 26, 2011 10:39 PM
    I can’t see anyone coming to play with you as their QB either, Carson.”
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    Jeez, you take a team to the playoffs a couple of times..and that’s thanks you get.

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    Carson didn’t “take” the Bengals to the playoffs in 09 (he did in 05), an easy schedule and a good defense is what got the Bengals in the playoffs in 09. And just because Carson has played in two playoff games that doesn’t make him a good QB. The fact that he’s only played in two playoff games is kind of bad considering he is in his 30’s. How many playoff games has Carson won?

  46. On the topic, on the turnovers, one was a jumped route, another bounced off of a receiver
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    Weird, people have been saying that about 75% of his interceptions in Cincinnati the past two years.
    Eventually, you are who you are, and he’s a middle of the pack QB who gets EVERY out route jumped (no zip on that ball whatsoever.. look at it, it just floats out to the flat). Yes.. he’s better than whats on the roster now, but he’ll never be Brees, Brady, Manning level. Right now, Id take Jay Cutler over Carson.

  47. enders9 says:
    Oct 27, 2011 8:47 AM
    tatum064 says: Oct 27, 2011 5:30 AM

    “cardmagnet says:
    Oct 26, 2011 10:39 PM
    I can’t see anyone coming to play with you as their QB either, Carson.”
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    Jeez, you take a team to the playoffs a couple of times..and that’s thanks you get.

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    Carson didn’t “take” the Bengals to the playoffs in 09 (he did in 05), an easy schedule and a good defense is what got the Bengals in the playoffs in 09. And just because Carson has played in two playoff games that doesn’t make him a good QB. The fact that he’s only played in two playoff games is kind of bad considering he is in his 30′s. How many playoff games has Carson won?

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    Yeah, but this is the Bengals. You have to grade Palmer’s performance on a different curve because of that.

    When is the last time the Bengals made the playoffs/won a playoff game before Palmer arrived? I’m guessing it was back in the days of the Ickey Shuffle.

  48. In my opinion, I believe this offseason has been another turning point in Mr. Owens’ life. He has been humbled by decisions he’s made in the past and is paying for it now. I am not going to hate, I’ll appreciate. Come back to SF, Terrell, and retire where you started.

  49. bengalsredgreenshow says:
    Oct 27, 2011 9:01 AM
    On the topic, on the turnovers, one was a jumped route, another bounced off of a receiver
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    Weird, people have been saying that about 75% of his interceptions in Cincinnati the past two years.
    Eventually, you are who you are, and he’s a middle of the pack QB who gets EVERY out route jumped (no zip on that ball whatsoever.. look at it, it just floats out to the flat). Yes.. he’s better than whats on the roster now, but he’ll never be Brees, Brady, Manning level. Right now, Id take Jay Cutler over Carson.

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    I don’t think anyone expects Palmer to rise to the Brees-Brady-Manning-Rodgers echelon. But the belief and hope is that he can play at the next tier. The Roethlisberger-Vick-Romo-Rivers level or something close to it (i.e. the Eli-Ryan-Freeman, etc. tier).

    Everyone trying to write off the guy after 3 days of practice with a new team before entering a game in a 21-0 hole is just being absurd and revealing the fact that they are just being petty or know absolutely nothing about football.

  50. Get real, TO would be behind DHB, Murphy, Schlienz, Ford, Moore, and Hagan.

    Carson was being polite, when he should have said , wow, this team is stacked with talent.

  51. I wish you raiders fans would come to the chargers posts. It’s lonely being the only one on there. It’s like nobody cares about the chargers.

  52. In a related item, Owens reportedly got an offer from the AFL’s Chicago Rush for a whopping $400 a week

  53. humb0lt says: Oct 27, 2011 12:20 AM

    Parson Calmer apparently couldn’t see Raiders receivers on Sunday either. All he could see was red…and white, especially when those jerseys were returning his passes the opposite direction for a score.

    And Phillip Rivers can’t tell time, even with the big clock in the end zone.

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