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“Casual visit” between Loomis, Condon not expected to spark Brees talks

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Saints quarterback Drew Brees is having another stellar season.  And with each game from which he emerges both healthy and sporting even healthier stats, Brees racks up some extra leverage for his next contract, given that the current one expires after the 2011 season.

A league source tells us that Saints G.M. Mickey Loomis and agent Tom Condon are expected to have a “casual visit” in connection with the team’s trip to St. Louis for Sunday’s game, given that Condon operates out of the city with the big arch and a new trophy with a bunch of little flags on it.  But the talks aren’t expected to spark any real progress toward a new deal.

This one is pointing firmly toward heating up, if at all, in February, with the franchise tag being used if a deal can’t be worked out.  Then, the question will be whether Brees will refuse to sign the franchise tender deep into the offseason, keeping him away from his teammates during offseason workouts, training camp, and/or preseason games.

It’s possible that Brees will do what guys like Colts defensive end Dwight Freeney did while under the franchise tag.  Brees could show up for meetings, but not engage in any practices until he gets his contract.

While these things are all 2012 issues, Brees’ performance in 2011 is pushing the parties toward such an outcome, if they can’t work out a new deal now.

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15 Responses to ““Casual visit” between Loomis, Condon not expected to spark Brees talks”
  1. glynners says: Oct 30, 2011 9:19 AM

    Not even remotely worried that a deal doesnt get done

  2. tdrundmc says: Oct 30, 2011 9:26 AM

    yeah, you better pay captain check down

  3. turbodog1027 says: Oct 30, 2011 9:48 AM

    I don’t understand why this hasn’t been done yet. Both sides know where the market is. Something just isn’t right here

  4. warrenmoon says: Oct 30, 2011 10:18 AM

    We will give you Carson Palmer and Jason Campbell for Brees straight up haha

  5. musicman495 says: Oct 30, 2011 10:43 AM

    tdrundmc says: Oct 30, 2011 9:26 AM

    yeah, you better pay captain check down
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    Right, genius, and this will probably be his second season of “checking down” for 5,000 yards, and 60 passes of 20 or more yards. (Additional Clue for the Clueless: Tom Brady hasn’t done either even once.)

  6. snarkzilla says: Oct 30, 2011 10:57 AM

    What else isn’t expected to spark Brees talks?

  7. ccpft says: Oct 30, 2011 11:14 AM

    @tdrundmc

    Considering that last Sunday night they put up a graphic showing that Brees is the complete OPPOSITE of a check down passer, with historic numbers of yards per attempt/completion in a couple of different years, this statement really illustrates either 1) your complete lack of understanding of football or 2) you have not watched a single Saints game in 5 years or more likely 3) you get all your sports knowledge from you office fantasy league

  8. scomibord says: Oct 30, 2011 11:46 AM

    tdrundmc must be a viqueen fan, still seething from that nfcc game two years ago. it wouldn’t surprise me if brees practiced and played without a contract, just the type of person he is. idiots can hate all they want

  9. pauliepennino says: Oct 30, 2011 12:16 PM

    Hate to break it to the Saints fans on this page but here are some cold hard facts:

    1. Saints fans need to get over the Colts game. (see also #3) Last week was no measuring stick. You beat the worst team in the NFL, in your own stadium, which is admittedly a hard place to visit…you beat a quarterback who really should be a third stringer, without a running back and a slew of other injuries. If you want a true measuring stick, how about on the road in big games…0-2 against your best division rival and the best team in the conference..

    2. Brees is all about the money. Save your romantic notion about how he loves New Orleans…he showed his true colors during the lockout. He is having a great season and the Saints haven’t shown any real interest in giving him a big payday…he got his big payday already. Ten seasons in, he won’t see the “Peyton Manning” style contract…why? He’s no Peyton Manning…he’s a top tier quarterback, but he shouldn’t command the kind of money he expects. Nobody should….look what it’s gotten the Colts.

    3) Living in the past. Before you blindly jump to the defense of your beloved Saints by saying “…duh you don’t know what you are talking about you have never watched the Saints..” I have lived in the Lafayette, LA area for almost 20 years, so I have seen it every day since Jake Delhomme led the Saints to that Christmas Eve win in 1999. Your fan base lives in the past. Saints fans are still celebrating the Super Bowl victory…they have this romantic notion that Sean Payton and Drew Brees are “doing it for New Orleans.” Do you really think that’s the case? Do you really think Payton cares about post-Katrina New Orleans? Sorry, he doesn’t…why do you think he bought a house in Dallas? The difference between a good franchise and a great franchise is the ability to move past not only your worst games but your best games and the Saints can’t do it…their Super Bowl hangover has lasted almost 2 years and if it weren’t for the ridiculous lease deal they got from the Superdome commission, they wouldn’t even BE on Poydras Street anymore.

    4. Enough with the hyperbole. Saints fans think they have the best QB, the best RB, the best coach, the best stadium, the best of everything. All of those things they have are very good, but sorry, you don’t even have a top 4 QB…he’s number 5 at best. Your stadium is nice enough, but sorry there are NFL jewels scattered across the country, the Superdome is not one of them. As for your coach, he couldn’t get the Saints ready to win at Seattle last year…a good coach to be sure, but look to San Fran or Jim Schwartz for coach of the year. A little humility will go a long way when discussing how your team compares to the rest of the league.

    Your team is very talented. Your head coach is a great leader. You have a VERY loyal and supportive fan base. The Super Dome is a top-five difficult place to visit as an NFL team. Stop living in the past, or you won’t continue to write a history worth telling.

  10. dkeyser says: Oct 30, 2011 12:16 PM

    tdrundmc says:Oct 30, 2011 9:26 AM

    yeah, you better pay captain check down
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    And you should change your name to Captain Troll..

  11. mdd913 says: Oct 30, 2011 12:42 PM

    Hate to break it to the Saints fans on this page but here are some cold hard facts:

    1. Saints fans need to get over the Colts game. (see also #3) Last week was no measuring stick. You beat the worst team in the NFL, in your own stadium, which is admittedly a hard place to visit…you beat a quarterback who really should be a third stringer, without a running back and a slew of other injuries. If you want a true measuring stick, how about on the road in big games…0-2 against your best division rival and the best team in the conference..

    2. Brees is all about the money. Save your romantic notion about how he loves New Orleans…he showed his true colors during the lockout. He is having a great season and the Saints haven’t shown any real interest in giving him a big payday…he got his big payday already. Ten seasons in, he won’t see the “Peyton Manning” style contract…why? He’s no Peyton Manning…he’s a top tier quarterback, but he shouldn’t command the kind of money he expects. Nobody should….look what it’s gotten the Colts.

    3) Living in the past. Before you blindly jump to the defense of your beloved Saints by saying “…duh you don’t know what you are talking about you have never watched the Saints..” I have lived in the Lafayette, LA area for almost 20 years, so I have seen it every day since Jake Delhomme led the Saints to that Christmas Eve win in 1999. Your fan base lives in the past. Saints fans are still celebrating the Super Bowl victory…they have this romantic notion that Sean Payton and Drew Brees are “doing it for New Orleans.” Do you really think that’s the case? Do you really think Payton cares about post-Katrina New Orleans? Sorry, he doesn’t…why do you think he bought a house in Dallas? The difference between a good franchise and a great franchise is the ability to move past not only your worst games but your best games and the Saints can’t do it…their Super Bowl hangover has lasted almost 2 years and if it weren’t for the ridiculous lease deal they got from the Superdome commission, they wouldn’t even BE on Poydras Street anymore.

    4. Enough with the hyperbole. Saints fans think they have the best QB, the best RB, the best coach, the best stadium, the best of everything. All of those things they have are very good, but sorry, you don’t even have a top 4 QB…he’s number 5 at best. Your stadium is nice enough, but sorry there are NFL jewels scattered across the country, the Superdome is not one of them. As for your coach, he couldn’t get the Saints ready to win at Seattle last year…a good coach to be sure, but look to San Fran or Jim Schwartz for coach of the year. A little humility will go a long way when discussing how your team compares to the rest of the league.

    Your team is very talented. Your head coach is a great leader. You have a VERY loyal and supportive fan base. The Super Dome is a top-five difficult place to visit as an NFL team. Stop living in the past, or you won’t continue to write a history worth telling.

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    LOL. You are obsessed, my man. I didn’t even take the time to read this ridiculous novel but I can practically smell the bitterness oozing out of it.

    It makes me happy to know that every time the Saints win you can’t handle it.

    Have a nice season, guy.

  12. pauliepennino says: Oct 30, 2011 2:07 PM

    Every time the Saints win, they are still two wins (in effect, three wins) behind the Packers. I can handle it just fine. Dress warm in January, if your team makes it that far.

  13. pauliepennino says: Oct 30, 2011 2:24 PM

    and now, after a blocked punt, against St. Louis and their horrible backup QB, your team looks like an alsoran. Suck for Luck?

  14. mdd913 says: Oct 30, 2011 2:39 PM

    It’s only halftime, don’t blow your load yet.

  15. mdd913 says: Oct 30, 2011 3:05 PM

    OK, now you can be happy. Congratulations, I guess.

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