Denver Post calls Tebow worst quarterback in league

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The Detroit Lions have apparently cured Denver of Tebow Fever, at least for a week.

Here’s the take from Mark Kizla of the Denver Post on Sunday.

“[Tim]  Tebow played as ineptly as any sorry excuse for a pro quarterback possibly could. He was laughably bad,” Kiszla wrote.

Oh, there’s more:

“Those five wonderful minutes against Miami now look like an aberration. Right here, right now, he is the worst quarterback in the NFL.”

Those five wonderful minutes only happened because the Dolphins couldn’t secure an onside kick last week. The praise for Tebow after that performance was silly and this reaction is going too far the other way.

Tebow looked like one of the worst starters in the league last week, and that was the case again Sunday. But it was two games, and Tebow’s career prospects don’t need to be re-evaluated every start.

Tebow has the rest of the season to prove he can start in Denver.  (Although might need to get better in the next month or we’ll see Brady Quinn in December.)

But let’s calm down for a minute and admit Tebow is making everyone a little crazy.  At least give him the month before declaring he’s the best or worst anything.

164 responses to “Denver Post calls Tebow worst quarterback in league

  1. The same people who are trashing Tebow this week are the exact same people proclaiming him a savior last week.

    No one knows at this time if he is the answer

  2. If any other QB played like this for 2 starts, he would never see his 3rd, but with Tebow, its ,oh you have to give him the rest of the season to see if he is really that bad.

  3. Seems a little harsh. Isn’t this only his 4th career start? I don’t know guys. I think tebow deserves more time to show improvement before we tag him with the worst quarterback ever label. If Denver doesn’t want him, ship him to Green Bay. They are masters at grooming quarterbacks.

  4. Totally agree with Rosenthall here. 1 week he is the savior. The next week he shouldn’t be in the NFL. People need to relax on Tebow. His career prospects shouldnt be evaluated after every game

  5. You gotta figure Tavares Jackson in there, too, ya know.

    Also Rex Grossman or whoever is starting in Washington these days.

  6. So Tebow isn’t that great? At least he’s getting his chance to show us that, unlike Brady Quinn. But the same people that are piling on Tebow for sucking are the ones that predicted Cam Newton to suck too. And clearly Cam Newton is a beast, like I thought he would be but no one listened to me on that one. Never the less, I’m looking forward to watching Skip Bayless try to dig his way out of this one tomorrow

  7. I am a lifelong fan of the Broncos. I have disavowed my allegiance to the Broncos as long as TRT is the starter. In fact, when McDaniels gave up three value picks in the deepest draft ever, I knew we were in deep doo-doo.

    Anyone who watches football with a critical eye has seen this coming from 20,000 miles away: TRT is abysmal. His two wins are against an historically awful Houston pass defense from last season and a Miami team who violently snatch loss from the clutches of victory. Against a solid set of 3, 4, and 5 technique players, Tebow’s gimmicks were exposed. He was directly responsible for two Detroit TDs with his awful ball skills.

    For those who have asked for TRT to “get his shot,” you have gotten your wish. As a long time Bronco fan, I hope and pray that we can find a franchise QB in the off season because TRT ain’t it. #godbless.

  8. Fianlly the Denver Post has figured out what the rest of us knew all along…….now if J. Fox can just convince the wacky Bronco fans. Watching Tebow has got to make a HOF’er like Elway cringe.

  9. bovice23 says: Oct 30, 2011 8:44 PM

    I think that tittle belongs to Kyle Boller. By far the worst QB of week 8 though

    Boller has had more chances to prove he can’t play. Denver’s best move would be to let Tebow continue to start. The fans will turn on him, and they will draft higher.

  10. “Those five wonderful minutes against Miami now look like an aberration.”

    Having decisively mastered the definition of the word ‘aberration’, the author moves on to his next incisive piece of analysis…

  11. johnnyb216 says:
    Oct 30, 2011 8:50 PM
    Seems a little harsh. Isn’t this only his 4th career start? I don’t know guys. I think tebow deserves more time to show improvement before we tag him with the worst quarterback ever label. If Denver doesn’t want him, ship him to Green Bay. They are masters at grooming quarterbacks.
    *********************************************

    What the heck did GB ever do to Denver to deserve that? Tebow might come to GB but it would be as a tourist.

    McCarthy and the QB school here probably could improve him but they’re not going to turn him in Aaron Rodgers.

    What gets me is for all the talk since DRAFT day that he needs to develop professional QB mechanics and footwork – he hasn’t. I don’t care what you say about his “heart and desire” he’s obviously arrogant enough to believe that he doesn’t need to change or he would have. (or at the least – make the attempt – he looks just as bad now as he did day 1)

  12. Really don’t think Tebow’s a legitimate starter but need to give some credit to Detroit’s DL and put some blame on Denver’s OL/running game. Hard to throw the ball if your on your ass the entire game and your receiver’s can’t get open. Different story whether or not Tebow could actually make the throws but they didn’t give him much time to breathe.

  13. WOW it took this long for Denver to see this. I missed all that I kept talking to the guys on the side lines we can do this speach today. Maybe all the Tebow worshipers should watch some of Cam and Dalton, now they may become headliners.

  14. Everyone should cut Tebow some slack.

    For a fullback he’s not half bad as a quarterback.

    He’s not half good though either.

  15. I’d have to agree with this for now, but that John Beck has a ton of potential to dethrone Timmy.

  16. Like Point Guards & assists, NFL Quarterbacks are best judged by their completion percentage. This is week two with Tebow completing less than 50% of his passes – indeed, he completed some 33% this week. I’ve seen all I need to see… Tim Tebow is many things but an NFL Quarterback he is not.

  17. Tebow should be made into a Jim Jenson clone. Who played WR/QB/RB for the Dolphins.

    Tebow could excel in that role. As a starter in the NFL ?? Not happening.

  18. The Fox/Elway plan is coming together nicely, I see. Put Tebow in with a gameplan that doesn’t fit his strengths, and when he fails say, “I told you so”…

  19. Tebow is just above Beck. Beck is the worst starting QB in NFL. 4 INT Grossman is ten times better than Beck.

  20. jagmania65 says:
    Oct 30, 2011 9:24 PM
    The Fox/Elway plan is coming together nicely, I see. Put Tebow in with a gameplan that doesn’t fit his strengths, and when he fails say, “I told you so”…

    ******************************************
    Any game plan that has him at QB isn’t “to his strengths”.

    3 fumbles

    Doesn’t matter what you “game plan” – that’s not supposed to happen. Short routes, roll outs, no huddle, hot reads etc – NONE of those include “fumbling”…

  21. jagmania65 says:
    Oct 30, 2011 9:24 PM
    The Fox/Elway plan is coming together nicely, I see. Put Tebow in with a gameplan that doesn’t fit his strengths, and when he fails say, “I told you so”…
    ————————————-
    To be fair to Fox/Elway any game plan that involves passing the ball doesn’t fit Tebow’s strengths.

  22. 1983 DENVER 11/10 GP/ GS
    123/ 259 PC/ PA-
    1,663 T/ Y
    47.5 C/%
    7 14 TD/ INT
    54.9 QB Rating

    John Elway’s 1st 10 games. give him a chance, dont work out, cut him

  23. Not a Broncos fan, but it seems pretty clear. Tebow was not Elway and Fox’s choice. So, put him in, let him play bad and you are justified in going another direction. That way you can tell the fans you tried. And, if he turns it around, and turns into something at QB, you can take the credit. Talk about a win-win.

  24. Tebow should have gone in the third or fourth round to a coach who understood he was a project–and was prepared to move him to running back or tight end if he couldn’t learn to read pro defenses or adjust his throwing motion.

    Instead McDaniels overpaid and created unrealistic expectations, and now the kid is stuck with coaches and execs who seem to enjoy feeding him to the Lions … and the wolves. I hope they don’t destroy a good guy and a good football player before he can get to a team that will know what to do with him.

  25. 14 sacks in 2 games as a starter?

    Maybe you should be talking about this offensive line first and foremost. Even Elway would have a hard time with these turnstiles “blocking” for him.

  26. He will NEVER be a nfl qb period, I watched the game and tebow just doesn’t have it,heck I stopped watchin at 31-3.I feel a little bad for him.

  27. I have no idea why people do not like Tebow. However, he is just terrible. This guy seems like the most altruistic person in sports. In an age where a percentage of the players are completely narcissistic and greedy, Tebow is certainly a breath of fresh air. I wish him the best in the future, but it is just too obvious that playing in the NFL won’t be a part of it

  28. Worst starting QB in the NFL = Top 32 best quarterback in the world. One of them has to be 32nd. Lets not jump off the bandwagon too quickly now.

    Well maybe top 33 because of that Luck fellow.

    OK lets go with top 40 because of a couple other pretty good NCAA QBs.

    Listen, alright, top 50. But that’s still pretty good.

    That said, if you include retired players like Warner, Favre, Jeff Garcia, Joey Harrington and Terry Bradshaw, in their current form, that makes him crack the top 100 at least, right?

    And I guess you should also account for the high school phenoms headed to the SEC next year.

    Look, Worst starting QB in the NFL = Top 32 best quarterback in the world

    Technically.

  29. I’ve never really put alot of stock into the “quick release” for quarterbacks until today! Tebow looked like Gumbi throwing the ball. Rediculous!

  30. Saw a blub across the screen -game must have been in the third quater by then – Tebow 4/13 36 yards.Thats insane. By the third quarter he would have to have passed more times than 13 and 36 yards? are the backs and ends running two yard patterns and he’s passing the ball to them?

    The only thing Denver can do now is let the chips fall where they may. Let him play it out and he either succeeds or fails but Denver has to know one way or the other if Tebow is the guy. Nothing more to lose now.

    One thing I don’t want to here is someone from the team saying they play harder when he’s in the game -interview today. Thats bull. Your paid to play 100% all the time not just when the go to guy is the one you like.

  31. Christian Ponder had his second career start today and won the game with 236 yards passing and controlled the game throughout. He looked polished and pre-pared and threw the ball accurately all day. He almost beat Green Bay last week in his first start so lets not make Tebow excuses for not having a lot of starts yet.

  32. It looks like Fox and Elway knew what hey were talking about after all.

    As for the notion that Tebow was purposely put in a game plan that didn’t fit his strength and fed to the Lions (as it were) is nonsense. On the pregame shows today they were talking about how the simplified the offense and made it into a college-style offense much like Tebow is accustomed to playing. What more can they do to help him succeed? Elway can’t turn himself invisible and carry the ball to the receivers for him.

  33. Tebow is a great athlete, no doubt. But he’s a HORRIBLE quarterback right now. The Bronco’s organization is in shambles, thanks in large part to Josh McDaniels. John Fox and Elway are screwed for the foreseeable future and the fans in Denver better get used to a lot more games like today.
    Watching Tebow play is painful for me to watch (and I’m not even a Denver fan!). Here’s a couple of ideas:
    1) bench him immediately, and begin intensive tutoring from the best QB coach money can buy. Don’t let him play another down this year…all that’s happening is his bad mechanics are becoming even more deeply engrained.
    2) if Tebow can’t erase years of bad habits, it’s time for a position change…tight end, runningback– anything except quarterback! If he isn’t willing to do this…cut him.

  34. I don’t think much of Tebow as an NFL QB or him throwing religion in our faces every chance he can get. However, let him succeed or fail throughout the rest of the season or perhaps even next year when he can prepare for the season as a starter. This crucifying of Tebow after every start is a over the top.

  35. Tebow is no good no changing that but even the great elway would’ve got pummeled with that o-line. No pocket no time and no running game.heck single coverage and noone got open…well chris Houston did.. oh one more thing….GO LIONS

  36. This would’ve been funnier had Woody Paige written this!!!!!

    Sorry, but Woody Paige sounds like a drunk version of the Tazmanian Devil!!!! Every time I saw him on “Around the Horn” I felt that a bottle of Jack Daniels should’ve been there and not that stupid chalkboard!!!

    Anyways, what is ironic is that there will NEVER be a fan request to put Kyle Orton back in.

  37. Yes, let’s calm down. Ignore what you see Tebow doing on the field. Ignore his statistics. There is no sense in being realistic, is there? Calm down, the emperor IS wearing clothes. ISNT he?

  38. Overheard in the Bronco’s lockerroon after the game.

    Fox: Show of hands, who here has played quarterback in organized ball ever? Any level at all. Let’s see those hands. . . . .”

    (Okay, I made that up, but they aren’t too far away from having to do that.)

  39. Tebow is closer to the description of him this week than the description of him last week. How many more times do you need to see him play to know his footwork is terrible, his delivery is slow, he is inaccurate and his arm is weak. Denver can take ten more years worth of games and it won’t change a thing. Guy is a great athlete, but that doesn’t make him a great QB.

    Meanwhile, a number of rookies named Dalton, Newton and Ponder are showing what real QBs can look like. Much better results, but about a tenth the hype.

  40. Now last week i said Tim had some of that Elway magic but now im wondering why somebody wont give troy smith a shot, its wild how bad he is missing on passes. The pick six is what killed me he has just to get better, but one more game like this & real talk can i see some brady quinn coach fox? If Elway is smart let Tebow start the rest of the season maybe the colts win a game or two & u never know it could be Andrew time.. And i hate too say this but what is brain dawkins doing outthere?

  41. It is really funny that people were fawning so hard over the guy when he beat the God-awful Dolphins…..

    And then he loses to the Lions (yes, it’s a new-look team, but it’s still funny), and they break the wheels off the bandwagon, douse it in consecrated wine, and set the damn thing on fire.

  42. It’s sad that in 2011 we’re still feeding Christians to the Lions. The ACLU should Suh on Tim’s behalf.

  43. Let’s not forget that PFT is one of the guiltiest contributors of the Tebow hype. Just about every day for a month there was some article written here. Most of us were sick of it, now you’re telling us to “calm down” about the Tebow show. PFT helped create this media mess.

    However, if Kyle Orton would have played better, none of us would be having this conversation.

  44. Forgot to type this last part…it should be obvious by now that Tim Tebow is a project. It’s going to take a LONG time (if ever) before he can be even an average NFL QB. Just having him as a 2nd or 3rd string QB “watching and learning” from the sideline isn’t going to work. Throwing him to the wolves and expecting him to be successful isn’t going to work (especially with the lack of talent surrounding him). The Bronco’s need to come up with a detailed, step-by-step plan (and need to “think outside the box”) on how to (hopefully) transform Tebow from an exceptionally successful college QB to an NFL starter. He seems like a good kid, so I do hope it works out for him (but it may not be in Denver-John Fox isn’t exactly known for being a QB guru, and his support of Tebow has been even less than lukewarm).

  45. ctp603 says: Oct 30, 2011 10:05 PM

    14 sacks in 2 games as a starter?

    Maybe you should be talking about this offensive line first and foremost. Even Elway would have a hard time with these turnstiles “blocking” for him.

    If you hold the ball and run around in circles, you are going to get sacked.

  46. jimmysee says: Oct 30, 2011 8:53 PM

    You gotta figure Tavares Jackson in there, too, ya know.

    Also Rex Grossman or whoever is starting in Washington these days.
    ____

    lol what the hell are you talking about? Neither of those guys are as bad as Tim Tebow is. You know nothing about football. You’re on the wrong site.

  47. ctp603 says:Oct 30, 2011 10:05 PM

    14 sacks in 2 games as a starter?

    Maybe you should be talking about this offensive line first and foremost. Even Elway would have a hard time with these turnstiles “blocking” for him.
    ———————————————————

    There is that many sacks only because 8 seconds into the play tebust is still trying to figure out what defense they are running and still needs another 4 seconds for his wind up.
    All for a pass that is going to be 15 yards off target.

  48. Tuned in late to see if there was gonna be a sequel to “Angels in the Backfield”. Fans got what they deserve. And stop with the Cam Newton comparisons. I mean, how thick are your mancrush goggles that you can’t see that Tebow simply can’t play at this level. My church is looking for a youth pastor with some enthusiasm.

  49. I’m still wondering why Chris Leak isn’t in the NFL. You can’t tell me Tebow is a better quarterback. Since Denver is just giving ANYBODY a chance (see Tebow, Quinn)!

  50. I like Tim Tebow.

    I know you would never believe that from the criticism I have leveled at him from day one, but that’s business, not personal.

    He’s simply not an NFL QB. He just doesn’t have the mechanics to do so.

    He is, however, an NFL caliber athlete.

    Someone needs to sit this kid down and explain to him that there is one thing he needs to do to ensure a long and productive NFL career:

    From the very first minute of the very first day of this coming offseason, he needs learn a new position- reciever, tight end, safety, whatever.

    It’s not too late, but it will be soon.

  51. This is tebows 4th NFL start as a quarterback in the National football leauge hes not going to become a tom brady in his second start of the season hes viewed greatly because he is a diffrent kind of quarterback give him a chance and watch him grow

  52. Denver’s poor leadership (current and former) at

    the top of the organization has led them to this

    point.

  53. ctp603 says:
    Oct 30, 2011 10:05 PM
    14 sacks in 2 games as a starter?

    Maybe you should be talking about this offensive line first and foremost. Even Elway would have a hard time with these turnstiles “blocking” for him.
    ======================

    If one were to assume that every, or even most, sacks are directly the fault of the offensive line, one would be tempted to agree with you.

    But if one were to actually understand football, one would realize that there are many reasons sacks occur (failure to effectively read the defense pre-snap, failure to feel pressure, inability go through progressions and find open recievers, happy feet in the pocket that cause QBs to run away from their own protection, etc.) that have little to do with the line and lots to do with the QB.

  54. How can he be the worst QB??? The people of the internet say hes great!!

    I think his play today was a cross between Bart Starr`s and charlie Whitehurst`s farts

  55. BABE LAFENBURG was RIGHT! Qoute: “I have never seen a QB more inaccurate during warmups in my life than Tebow,” Laufenberg said. “Throwing against air.” Tebow is a bust

  56. @granadafan: “This crucifying of Tebow after every start is a over the top.”

    Odd…you think he’d be honored…

  57. He is a good kid. He has taken the opportunities that have been presented to him and done the best he can with those opportunities.

    Will he ever be a productive starting QB. in the NFL I doubt it. Will he ever be a solid back up? No I doubt it.

    He took a knee after his first win, I have seen that hundreds of times from hundreds of players.

    There have been many NFL running backs who took that same pose after a 13 yard T.D. run, the longest of their one year NFL tenure, then went out that very night to a night club and ended up arrested and in jail for assault.

    Yes… Let’s all jump on this Kid. The worse QB in the NFL ? Perhaps…

    Is he a far better person then Brett Favre? Damn right.

  58. No he is a bust and if he got drafted by the Raiders the media would be all over this…
    You will never hear a peep about tebow being a bust in 5 years when he is out of the NFL but if he played for the Raiders you wold se a sportscenter special about it every month..
    Speaking of Raiders Tebow is going to get destroyed next week

  59. Dolphins, Redskins, Seahawks and Broncos will be looking for a new qb next season, probably Cowboys and Browns too, it’ll be interesting.

  60. As Ive said for the past two weeks by veterans day you will hear the mob calling for the Broncos offensive coordinator Mike MCcoys head .

    Tebow is not a NFL QB right now and the playcalling is making it worse.Orton wasnt a bad QB but the predictable playcalling out of base formations turned him into a turnover machine and he has never been known as a qb that turned it over a lot .

    Orton is like Rodney Dangerfield he gets no respect LOL and 3 teams are now paying the price because of it .

    Miami wouldve been better off if they had traded for Orton in the offseason

    The Broncos wouldve been better off if the coaches and front office wouldve said Tebow would not be starting this year unless they had injuries PERIOD

    The Raiders wouldve been better off if they had saved those assets and traded for Orton who had at least played in the last 10 months instead of going for overpriced Palmer and relying on Boller .

    This has been one crazy season ……. and hey Broncos fans got what they wanted

  61. Watch the game tape. He was zipping balls right through reciever’s hands all day. Tons of catchable balls and some great cb defense. I give credit is due.

    For Tebow, simply too much adreniline.

    However, I am officially ok with getting a top QB in the draft. The Broncos have played in 6 SBs, and this is aweful.

    Can’t wait for this dude to sync with his players, or we have to move on. I truly think the lockout, and letting Orton play early in the year hendered Tebow’s growth with the team.

    I also feel as if Fox and Elway are setting Tebow up for failure with a non hurry-up offense. They don’t really want Tebow.

    He will be a star somewhere else, just like all Denver draft picks.

  62. Can Tebow really be worse than Sanchez? The Jets would be vasty improved by playing with just 10 men on offense and ducktaping Sanchez to his locker. Can the same be said for Tebow. At least he can contribute something by running the ball?

  63. realitypolice says:
    Oct 30, 2011 11:42 PM
    ctp603 says:
    Oct 30, 2011 10:05 PM
    14 sacks in 2 games as a starter?

    Maybe you should be talking about this offensive line first and foremost. Even Elway would have a hard time with these turnstiles “blocking” for him.
    ======================

    If one were to assume that every, or even most, sacks are directly the fault of the offensive line, one would be tempted to agree with you.

    But if one were to actually understand football, one would realize that there are many reasons sacks occur (failure to effectively read the defense pre-snap, failure to feel pressure, inability go through progressions and find open recievers, happy feet in the pocket that cause QBs to run away from their own protection, etc.) that have little to do with the line and lots to do with the QB.
    ===================================
    So true. Which probably accounts for the fact that Tebow has been sacked 14 times in 2 games and Orton was sacked 9 times in 5 games.

    Orton- sacked 1.8 times per game.

    Tebow- sacked 7 times per game.

    The Timmy Teabag apologists are trying to blame out on the o-line. Doesn’t work here.

  64. I’m so sick of seeing foolish posts declaring that Tim Tebow will be “out of this league soon” or that “he should go play in the CFL or AFL or UFL”, etc.

    You are probably right if you don’t think he’ll ever make it as a QB in the NFL. Fine, as of right now, I’ll grant you that. However, I believe that you are making a HUGE mistake if you think Tim Tebow isn’t an NFL caliber athlete! He’d make a beast of a power back or FB in short yardage & goalline situations, and I think he’d probably make at least a decent TE if he got half a chance to do it. Heck the guy could probably even play MLB with some seasoning & the right coaching.

    I just don’t understand why the Broncos don’t start Orton (who sucks a bit less than Tebow right now), and start using Tebow to his REAL strength… power running!

  65. Tim Tebow is the Sarah Palin of NFL QBs. He makes people on both sides of the debate completely irrational.

  66. imaduffer says: Oct 31, 2011 12:19 AM

    Where’s Ryan Leaf when you need him? Oh, wait has anyone seen LaMarcus lately?
    ______________________________________

    CURSE YOU for stealing my Ryan Leaf bit! CUUUURRRSE YOOOOOUUU!!!!!

  67. finsfan71 says:
    Oct 30, 2011 9:22 PM

    For a team that had one of the greats, they sure have forgotten how the position should be played

    —————-

    that’s the nicest thing i’ve ever heard about jay cutler

  68. Just another example of the exaggeration of everything Tebow. Blaine Gabbert was 10-30 for 97 yards today. Yet, most experts considered him the top QB prospect in this class. Watched Colt McCoy play this year? Not good. Tavaris Jackson and Charlie Whitehurst are so bad they get benched for each other. Kevin Kolb was hyped by the media to the point where Arizona bet the house on him. He’s awful. Curtis Painter doesn’t belong in the NFL. I don’t even think Mark Sanchez or Matt Cassel consistently look that much better than Tebow has in his five career starts, but both are the benefactors of better run games and defenses. Tebow has a LONG way to go to be a good QB, but do we really have to make a decision on him now? Denver is going nowhere this year, so may as well let him finish the season out and see if he improves. If he does, maybe you got something special. If he doesn’t, then no harm done because you were bad any way and you know you need to invest in a franchise QB.

  69. Come on guys really? He’s got like under a half a dozen starts and you’re calling him “the WORST QB” in the league???

    He might not be good, but no way you can give up on him yet Denver.

    Good God, we gave Tavaris Jackson 4 freakin years….

  70. I’ve been rooting for Tebow to prove the haters wrong… but I have to say, overall, that was truly the worst performance, the most inept, hopeless perfromance, I’ve ever seen from an NFL QB. There’s nothing to build on, no talent to hone. He may have a future as a running back, tight end, linebacker, I don’t know; but he cannot play quarterback in the NFL, and he gets worse with every game as defenses realize just how inept he is and leave it to him to lose the game for them. Bad. Incredibly bad. Shockingly bad. The. Worst. Ever.

  71. raiderapologist says:
    Oct 30, 2011 9:01 PM
    bovice23 says: Oct 30, 2011 8:44 PM

    I think that tittle belongs to Kyle Boller. By far the worst QB of week 8 though
    =======================
    Thank God we wont have to find out whether Tebow or Boller is the worst.

    Raider Nation!! Go CP3!!!

  72. Tim Tebow was never the savior of the season for the Broncos. He remains a player that needs a LOT of development to be an NFL caliber quarterback. Some of that development can take place outside of games, but the larger part requires that Tebow learns how to maintain proper form under pressure. It needs to be come instinctive.

    Tebow still does not move his feet properly so that he maintains proper balance and position during throws.

    He also holds the ball too low before he starts passing. He needs to hold it up closer to his back shoulder to have a quicker release.

    He also winds his arm way too far back before he throws. He needs to adopt a more compact delivery for his throws.

    Much of that is stuff he work on without playing, but ti will not become second nature under pressure without playing. Now add in reading defenses and working through his progressions and you will see he has a HUGE learning curve still.

    Denver fans will need to be very very patient with Tebow, though I suspect that will not happen.

  73. great ! Now we have our starting QB for our all-time worst ever team joining Josh McDaniels as Head Coach and Matt Millen as the GM.We need to fill the other positions and the team will be ready to go

  74. Don’t get me wrong, Tebow was terrible…
    But haven’t seen so many people on a post since….well….Tebow won last week.
    Good or Bad, the man creates hype.

  75. Denver needs to stay the course and let Tebow play the rest of the year so that they truly can see if he can develop. That team is terrible as they cannot block for any QB and the WR’s who were able to make a couple of catches last week dropped some very catchable balls yesterday. It’s hard to have good footwork in the pocket when the pocket doesn’t exist. QB’s learn how to recognize NFL defenses over time with experience and they might as well see if Tebow can develop his football IQ to overtake some of the bad mechanics like other NFL QB’s have done in the past.

  76. If Tim Tebow were an atheist, he’d still be on the bench.

    His ‘followers’ threw out reason and objectivity, and the groundswell to play him became so great that the Broncos had no choice.

    Well…here you go! Are you happy now? You didn’t love Tebow, you loved the idea of a cornfed, handsome christian poster boy leading you to football’s promised land.

  77. Grossman and Tebow are both Gators. Both started at UF for three years, both won one championship. Tebow won the heisman, Grossman was the runner-up. Their UF numbers are eerily similar.

    However, at this point it looks like Tebow will be lucky to have the NFL career of Grossman with 10 years and a Super Bowl appearance (not including those ads).

    Tebow is no Grossman.

  78. I’m not a Tebow fan myself, but I have two issues with the statements made by the reporter.

    1. Some quarterbacks are system quarterbacks. They might play great for one team and move to another and not play well. Some teams modify their system/plays to enhance their play. I don’t think either of these things are true in Denver. They’re not playing to his strengths and his strengths don’t fit their offense.

    2. There are a lot of quarterbacks who were horrible in their first year and they turned out great. That expectation of perfection because they were a first round pick isn’t realistic. I’m not saying he in any way compares to John Elway, but feel free to look up the stats for his first year starting.

  79. stevenfbrackett says: Oct 30, 2011 10:51 PM

    Overheard in the Bronco’s lockerroon after the game.

    Fox: Show of hands, who here has played quarterback in organized ball ever? Any level at all. Let’s see those hands. . . . .”

    (Okay, I made that up, but they aren’t too far away from having to do that.)
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    Not one to pile on, but you win the prize for the funniest post. Maybe you have to actually have been in a locker room. Image that talk at half time.

  80. I know the outcome was ugly, but has anyone that’s blasting the kid, actually watched the game?

    His offensive line is a disaster, sacked 14 times in two games. The play calling was horrendous for a young QB too. John Lynch was complaining about it all game from the booth, asking why they refuse to put Tebow in a position to succeed.

    No he didn’t look pretty, but he needs some help. I have to wonder if the coaching staff wants him to succeed or not. It seems as though they already made up their mind, and they just want him to fail enough so they can move forward without him.

  81. If one were to assume that every, or even most, sacks are directly the fault of the offensive line, one would be tempted to agree with you.

    But if one were to actually understand football, one would realize that there are many reasons sacks occur (failure to effectively read the defense pre-snap, failure to feel pressure, inability go through progressions and find open recievers, happy feet in the pocket that cause QBs to run away from their own protection, etc.) that have little to do with the line and lots to do with the QB

    Yes you are right except for the fact Orten had the same problem. The offensive line is horrendous, the play calling is terrible… run, run, pass on 3rd and long. Not saying Tebow is good or bad just i dont think the best QB could put up good numbers in Denver.

  82. Tebow is a great athlete and a terrific prayer but is not an NFL caliber quarterback. At the NFL level he probably dosent fit into any position.

  83. If the best coaching tandem ever ( Head coach God and offensive coordinator Jesus) can’t make him a quarterback, the folks in Green Bay don’t have a shot at it either.
    @ granada fan: Love the choice of words. Crucifying. Apropos.

  84. Haha Denver fans 3 weeks ago: “We-Want-Tebow! clap-clap-clap clap clap!”
    Denver fans now: “We-Regret This! clap-clap-clap clap clap!”

  85. I watched the game, and it was embarrassed for Tebow and for the fans in Denver.

    I know Tebow is a nice guy, but all this stuff about how his intangibles are so much better than anyone else and he’s going to outwork everyone else is really a total insult to the other players in the NFL who work as hard as Tebow does or ever will.

  86. Agree. i mean at least Denver didnt start Rex Grossman or John Beck. Tim Tebow is a project. that was clear when he was drafted.

  87. The worst QB in the league right now is Blaine “Sunshine” Gabbert! I know Tebow stinks, but Sunshine is THE WORST QB in the NFL! Tebow is the worst FB playing QB in the league.

  88. Tebow is not a great QB…Not even a good QB, but he was set up for failure. Who trades their best (and only) receiver half-way through the season? He has no one to throw the ball too. I say they start him at home to fill the seats and give Quinn a shot on the road. At least Quinn won’t have to hear the Tebow chants at home.

  89. Leave the kid alone. These same people were genuflecting in front of him last week. He has started all of two games and people are forgetting that Kolb, Flacco, Beck, Grossman and the like aren’t in the NFL anymore???

  90. Here at a mile high the fandom is pretty much stunned – the ones left conscious and cognative claim that the offensive line failed as well. Being that this was the only afternoon game broadcast I was forced to sit and watch and giggle maniacally at the same time – it was a beautiful thing.

    I wonder how Tebow will perform against a truly good defense LOL……

    Go Raiders.

  91. Tebow = the great white hype.

    How’s “tebowmania” looking this morning? Like I said last week, if they had been playing a decent team instead of the Dolphins, they would have been so buried by the time tebow made those plays that it wouldn’t have mattered.

  92. Wow, the Tebow fangirls are in a serious state of denial.

    Teams will figure out how to defend Tebow as Detroit did today. The guy is just not an quality calibre NFL QB. So many player personel types and former players have been saying this for the past two years.

    Tebow also has the Curse of Coach McDumbass hanging over his head. No other coach or GM felt that Tebow was worth a 1 round draft pick. Bellichik played his former assistant for the chump he is, and convinced McDumbass that the Pats wanted Tebow and got McDumbass to trade picks to move up in draft to get Tebow.

  93. cardmagnet how is Donovan McNabb the worst QB in the league? How many games have you watched?

    Looking at ESPN and the stat sheet and making a comment on someone’s play is silly.

  94. The new billboard in Denver should read : Please bring back our coach, franchise QB, talented wr’s , TE, and RB.

  95. Tebow reminds me of the guy who plays right field on our softball team. Can’t run, can’t hit, but we keep him on the team because he’s hilarious. Personality goes a long way.

  96. Tim Tebow will not be a Denver Bronco next season.

    It is clear that he is, at best, a career backup, much like a Byron Leftwich, but unlike Leftwich, his presence on a team in disarray at QB only makes finding a solution more difficult.

    I will him the best of luck, but both the team and Mr. Tebow will better off if he gets shipped and/or signs with another team with an established QB where he can be the third option.

  97. Media hype on both sides is crazy. the situation has not changed. they were never going anywhere this year with Orton, who was leaving at the end of the year anyway.
    Play Tebow. he either improves, or he doesnt. If he doesnt, draft yourself a qb.
    Is 4-12 with Orton/Quinn really what they are striving for?
    As putrid as hes looked the last two weeks, hes 2-3 as a starter.
    Let Tebow play. He either gets better (cant get worse really), or they finish 2-14. Then you switch him to TE or whatever, and draft a good qb or d lineman. That was the best plan week 1, and its the best plan now. This team is not going to win now regardless.

  98. Leave Tebow alone he has sold tickets to people that care nothing about football and could care less. These people just come out to see God’s only Grandchild. Tebow is the anointed one

  99. all you fools don’t see that Elway has set this kid up to fail. Most young QBs either sit a year and truly develop their skills or they are thrown into the fire to fail if their team blows or succeed if their team is decent i.e. Newton, Dalton. Denver has a truly awful line. Their best receiver was traded immediately prior to Tebow taking over. The play calling is abysmal. Their D is so bad it leaves them behind by 2-3 TDs. Despite all this, you folks expect a young QB to thrive? Many HOF QBs have stunk it up their first year plus. During the 3rd quarter the announcers had opined that they needed Tebow to take 3 step drops and get rid of it quickly. That…up to that point it happened only once. Even he could see they weren’t even trying to protect this kid. I couldn’t possibly know for certain if he can succeed in NFL and none of y0u can say he will for certain fail.

  100. Greg, I love your FF site, that being said:

    “A few weeks?”

    Buddy, Tebow shouldn’t play another snap in the NFL, EVER. That was horrific. He couldn’t complete wide open passes, and it looked like my sister was throwing some of those out routes…with her left hand (she’s right hand dominant).

  101. Funny, because the last 2 QB’s of John Fox coached teams had very similar things said about them. See Jake Delhomme and Jimmy Clausen.

  102. This news story is riduclous. Kisza is just as bad as any band wagon fan. Not to mention see his articles from last week. Did he write the same articles last yr when Orton was at Q during these blowouts? NOPE! We seem to forget this is still 85% JMD’s shi*t show he left here. Even Tebow is his pick. So if you take Kisza’s logic on Tebow does this mean Champ is the worst corner in the league? Just shocking to see even how annoying Denver’s writers are. Denver needs a whole lot of help and I know QB’s take the blame. Even Elway would of been screwed vs Detroit.

  103. Gregg, he’s had more than a month to prove himself if you go back to last year. Plain and simple, he’s not a NFL level QB – great athlete or not.

  104. This is exactly why the NFL needs a developmental league other than college football. He has potential but it needs to be developed somewhere else. Maybe Canada??? LOL

  105. Why do I feel like 4 or 5 years from now, some desperate fans will still be clamoring for Tebow to get a chance to prove himself?

  106. They KNOW he’s bad. That’s why he’s playing. Why win now? So they can NOT get Luck? Not saying they’re trying to lose, but they’ve made it clear that they’re not trying to win either.

  107. Mark Kizla had the cojones to say something that no one else in Denver media has the guts to admit. Most are probably afraid of losing their access to the team to say anything bad.

  108. beanocook says: Nov 1, 2011 12:20 PM

    The NFL is filled with crappy QBs. That’s why it is boring as hell.
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    Yup, crappy QBs like Tim Tebow.

  109. “At least give him the month before declaring he’s the best or worst anything.”

    Pretty safe to say he’s not the best at anything.

  110. Does anyone here remember John Elway’s first year?? He even lined up behind the wrong lineman once.

    Everybody [smack] just calm down! He is a project. It’s not a secret. He’s had two coaches in two years.

    Didn’t begin last season as a starter for good reason. Didn’t begin this year as the starter for good reason.

    The offense isn’t designed around his skills.

    If it were not for fantasy football nobody here could even mention 3 offensive starters on the Broncos.

    The 2 times out of 15 that he gets the ball to his guys they drop anyway.

    Give him SOME time to grow. Everybody put away the shovels and pitchforks for now!

  111. deconjonesbitchslap says: Nov 2, 2011 9:19 PM

    why do people try to publicly humiliate this kid?
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    Simple. It’s his Cult of Personality status and his rapid fangirls.

    Tebow was never considered a good prospect by anyone except Coach McDumbass. We know how good Coach McDumbass is at judging talent.

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