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Luck is facing unrealistic expectations at next level

Stanford University Luck celebrates his team's victory over the University of Southern California in Los Angeles Reuters

Last night’s stirring, sleep-depriving, triple-overtime, 56-48 win over USC has advanced even farther the legend of Andrew Luck (even though he threw a key pick-six that set the stage for a game-tying drive and that overtime victory).  Regarded not only as the clear-cut best prospect coming out (assuming he comes out) of college in 2012 but also as the best quarterback prospect since Peyton Manning in 1998 or fellow Stanford quarterback John Elway in 1983, Luck faces expectations that will be hard to satisfy, much less exceed.

Six years ago, former USC tailback Reggie Bush was building similar hype as he rocketed toward the Heisman.  Not even a less-than-stellar, performance in the 2006 Rose Bowl, which featured un-Reggie-like numbers and a boneheaded decision to try a downfield lateral, could derail his candidacy to be the first pick in the draft — and the presumption that he’ll be the next Gale Sayers.  Even after the Texans opted to pass on Bush, which came not long after the first reports of his receipt of cash and other benefits while at USC emerged, we all expected Bush to have a dramatic and immediate impact, and to put together a resume that would make him a first-ballot entry into Canton.

Similar expectations await Luck at the next level.  Regardless of whether it’s fair or unfair, it’s a product of Luck’s performance at Stanford, media attention, fan anticipation, and a name that fits perfectly into a catchy slogan that creates hope for the worst teams in the NFL this season.

But should the expectations be so high for Luck?  As one league source explained it on Saturday, some scouts think that Luck may not be the franchise savior/multiple Super Bowl winner/sure-fire Hall of Famer that everyone expects him to be.

Even if those scouts are simply choosing a contrarian view without firm evidence to support it, Luck would benefit from more people sharing that opinion.  Otherwise, once he gets to the NFL he’ll have nowhere to go but down.

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  1. rca26 says: Oct 30, 2011 10:06 AM

    oh?

  2. nysaysbringit says: Oct 30, 2011 10:07 AM

    Absoloutly right!…All this hype and anticipation is the “Kiss of death” for a young talented guy like this…Hopefuly it wont go that way. But Ive seen it too many times.

  3. football58 says: Oct 30, 2011 10:08 AM

    I have not seen this much hype since LeBron James came into the NBA. Since LeBron is regarded as one of the best players in the NBA I would say Luck has a good chance to live of to the hype, he will just need a few years to get a good team around him. Imagine if he had good receivers at Standford.

  4. derekjetersmansion says: Oct 30, 2011 10:09 AM

    He will never be as good as Cam Newton.

  5. pfii63 says: Oct 30, 2011 10:09 AM

    I’ve been saying this for months.

    The kid hasn’t played a down in the NFL. Ge back to me after he has won his second MVP trophy.

  6. herlies says: Oct 30, 2011 10:11 AM

    Great college QB? Absolutely.

    Can’t-miss prospect? Probably.

    Intentionally lose your last 9 games just to have a chance to draft him? Hell no, he’s not that good.

  7. mrbigass says: Oct 30, 2011 10:12 AM

    I thought he looked very good. The bottom line is every draft pick is a crap shoot and no one really knows until he lines up and plays.

    How many 1st round QB’s have been a bust in the last several years? Half?

  8. sakatak says: Oct 30, 2011 10:13 AM

    Not sure who to believe after reading all the negative hype about Cam Newton on this website.

  9. thebigkahuna23 says: Oct 30, 2011 10:14 AM

    Nowhere to go but down? The kid is great but college is all about athleticism. If you’re the strongest/fastest/bigest it will make you the best in college. Obviously he is and now he needs time in the NFL to adapt and learn. No great quarterback has ever had a really amazing numbers wise rookie season, none.

  10. shawon0meter says: Oct 30, 2011 10:14 AM

    Being “NFL ready” does not mean being NFL ready to be elite. I think people are assuming he has this incredibly high ceiling and nobody knows that. He could be a Kyle Orton.

  11. blueintown says: Oct 30, 2011 10:15 AM

    You’re dramatically exaggerating people’s expectations for Reggie Bush coming out of USC. First-ballot entry into Canton was never consensus. In fact, heading into the draft a good portion of scouts were convinced he would never be an every-down back.

  12. warrenmoon says: Oct 30, 2011 10:15 AM

    Hows his work ethic on scale of Jamarcus to Peyton?

  13. 700levelvet says: Oct 30, 2011 10:18 AM

    Let’s recap then…..
    He the QB of the undefeated #4 team in the country…
    He’s probably the BMOC, and all the benefits and perks that come with that ( you know what i mean fellas), in Cali no less…
    He’s about to become the Number 1 pick in the NFL draft…
    And he’s going to be a multi millionaire in the near future….
    I wouldn’t wish these burdens on anyone…….

  14. bloggingpoodlewalker says: Oct 30, 2011 10:19 AM

    Ok, lets see the names of these so called NFL scouts who claim he wont do well,..you didnt publish the names becaase there arent any, thats just another lie,…theres not a scout around whos ever said Luck wont be great,…sorry to have to expose you again. Just another case of the jealous media that never played sports their whole life.

  15. bartpkelly says: Oct 30, 2011 10:19 AM

    The best prospect since Manning?
    Be careful, many had Ryan Leaf up above-even with-or just below- Manning. That means…

    Luck is the best prospect since Ryan Leaf!!!!!

  16. wawa33 says: Oct 30, 2011 10:19 AM

    I hope the Colts, Dolphins, and Rams all tank for Luck and he decides to go back for his senior year.

  17. herlies says: Oct 30, 2011 10:20 AM

    “I have not seen this much hype since LeBron James came into the NBA. Since LeBron is regarded as one of the best players in the NBA I would say Luck has a good chance to live of to the hype”

    LeBron James is a physical freak of nature, Andrew Luck is not.

  18. CKL says: Oct 30, 2011 10:20 AM

    I think it was the media that had the unrealistic expectations for Bush, not the NFL. I mean even Casserly who wasn’t the best GM ever made the right call and drafted the better player at the more important position (I supported that move even then). Payton drafted a guy who he knew could help his offense versatility wise but who I don’t think he ever saw as an every down guy and he NEVER used Bush as an every down guy so I don’t think that’s unreasonable to think he felt that way. The only think I could “fault” Payton for is overdrafting a guy who is a piece, but not even potentially an elite player at his position. Payton MADE Bush, he was brilliant in the way he used Bush, he maximized Bush’s skills. That’s what great coaches/playcallers do. He was also smart enough to realize he would do better with letting Bush go and bringing in Sproles. That has to be one of the best FA moves of the entire offseason bar none. Losing Sproles is killing SD’s offense and is much better for NO than having Bush there for more money.
    Ok I know tl/dr…but that was all media created just like almost anytime a player is hyped to the max before they get into the league (and sometimes even AFTER they get into the league). The good personnel guys will usually be able to tell, and even they have busts on their records.

  19. righthereisay says: Oct 30, 2011 10:22 AM

    Yes, he threw a pick 6. Everyone knew it was bad right when it left his hand.

    Anyways, he was playing AT USC, in front of a National Audience. And then drove their team down field with a few minutes left to tie the game.

    I was pretty impressed with the guy last night.

    With that said, the USC run defense was pretty pathetic.

  20. puba76 says: Oct 30, 2011 10:23 AM

    I’m not sure he was the best QB on the field last night. I am not a USC fan, but Matt Barkley looked awfully good as well! If I need a QB and have to trade 2 1’s and 2 2’s or something absurd for Luck, I’d rather keep my position in the draft and take Barkley.

  21. yelix says: Oct 30, 2011 10:24 AM

    I don’t know, man. I don’t want to hype him up too much but I saw a very good quarterback out there last night that could have an amazing NFL career. He’s got pretty much everything you want, tangible and intangible. I was especially impressed that he was able to immediately shake off the pick-6 and march down the field to tie the game.

    Could he be a bust? Absolutely. But I sure hope he isn’t.

  22. devinmr711 says: Oct 30, 2011 10:25 AM

    Andrew Luck > Aaron Rodgers

    You can thumbs down this all you want. I’m simply stating the facts.

    When I look at Luck playing QB I see a QB with Peyton Manning brains and Aaron Rodgers talent.

  23. kd727 says: Oct 30, 2011 10:26 AM

    I don’t remember people who knew what they were talking about saying that about Reggie Bush…actually from what I read Bush has been everything he’s expected to be: a quick 3rd down back that will never be an every down guy.

    Luck has been ridiculous and aside from that brief lapse in judgement on the pick six. He is the best prospect since Manning. The hype is for a reason. People’s expectations of him probably vary according to how much they know football, but the people who know pretty much all see the same thing: a franchise quarterback that you can build around. That’s really all a bad team wants.

    And I’m guessing you didn’t watch College Gameday (one of the greatest shows on television) yesterday, because if you did you would’ve seen Luck say in an interview this is his last year of college football.

    At the end of the day who cares about the unrealistic fantasized goals that fans will place upon him? Once he’s in the league all he has to do is win and any statistical shortcomings will be forgiven.

  24. JackLeone says: Oct 30, 2011 10:27 AM

    Thank you. This is exactly how I feel. The reality is the expectation is so high, that even if he is decent, he’ll be considered a bust if he doesn’t reach or exceed those expectations. Aaron Rodgers sat three years and he’s said in interviews that he wasn’t as good as he thought he was coming out of college. Those three years he sat holding the clip board molded him in to one of the elite qbs of the NFL. The same will hold true for Luck. True enough Cam Newton and other qbs are putting up the numbers but they don’t have the wins to justify them being elite.

  25. 6ball says: Oct 30, 2011 10:27 AM

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    Much will depend on the organizations / situation that Luck gets drafted into. I think both Tom Brady and Aaron Rogers benefited from their time as understudies, in addition to having coaching stability.

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  26. nahcouldntbethat says: Oct 30, 2011 10:29 AM

    Tim Couch, David Carr and JaMarcus Russell say hello.

  27. chadcantcatch says: Oct 30, 2011 10:32 AM

    You need to limit the amount of articles on here when they become this kind of quality. This is an editorial that is stretching it..He is a top prospect, it should be known that prospects do not equate to hall of famers.. if he plays even solid his first year as an NFL rookie people will call it a success…what kind of trash are you trying to write on this NBC sponsored site? They should be embaressed

  28. thegonz13 says: Oct 30, 2011 10:34 AM

    Funny, they also said Tim Tebow and Ryan Leaf were a great college players and can’t-miss prospects…

  29. mannyicey says: Oct 30, 2011 10:39 AM

    I think that Luck will make a good quarterback, but the hype is what’s going to hamper him. He’s playing like a good college player right now with good NFL potential. I remember Peyton Manning at Tennessee. He looked like an NFL Pro-Bowl quarterback hanging out in college.

    I remember Cam Newton, Mike Vick, etc. They looked like everyone else played at a lesser level then they did when they were in college. I can remember Dan Marino at Pitt- he looked like an NFL Hall-of-Famer with no business playing the college game.

    You know- I was looking at Luck and I was looking at the hype, but he looks just a tad bit better than Kellen Moore to me. And if someone went out and got Andrew Luck in the draft, getting Kellen Moore would be just as good, IMO.

  30. avianflew says: Oct 30, 2011 10:44 AM

    No great quarterback has ever had a really amazing numbers wise rookie season, none.

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    Roethlsiberger went 15-1 his rookie season.

  31. godsowncrunk says: Oct 30, 2011 10:44 AM

    I’ve watched him play all of twice now, and he seems to be an exceptionally good college QB – I don’t see what NFL scouts are drooling about, but having only seen him twice, I’m obviously not seeing the whole picture. That said – he’s not worth tanking games or making wild draft-day trades to get. I wish him the best, but I’m not seeing the signs of NFL greatness as yet.

    Off the top of my head, here are a few guys I remember as slotted to be great NFL QBs – Elway, Aikman, Leaf, Marinovich (or was he supposed to be a flame-out already?), both Mannings, Rivers.

    Here are two that were given little to no shot at being great: Brady, Montana.

    It’s a crap-shoot – maybe Luck will win it, maybe he won’t, but chances are good the next great NFL QB is someone most haven’t even seen play more than a game or two.

  32. drbob117 says: Oct 30, 2011 10:50 AM

    He may not be a HOF QB right now, but he’s better than about 70% of the QB’s in the NFL right now.

  33. rlr79 says: Oct 30, 2011 10:51 AM

    I love how some people comment bust or Jamarcus Russel, Tim Couch, etc. Look this guy may or may not be the next Peyton Manning, who knows, but I would bet a years salary, barring injury, that he will never be with the likes of Ryan leaf, Tim Couch or J.Russel.

  34. snarkzilla says: Oct 30, 2011 10:51 AM

    Andrew Luck > Aaron Rodgers

    If that’s a prediction, time will tell. If that’s intended to be statement of fact that reflects current reality, it’s absurd. Rodgers may be the best ever at the mental game.

  35. gb4mn0 says: Oct 30, 2011 10:54 AM

    I know many of you are going to give me thumbs down on this but as far as Luck > Rodgers goes, Rodgers came into the league with a chip on his shoulders which has been his mojo.

  36. andrejohnsonforpresident says: Oct 30, 2011 10:55 AM

    Listen, i’ve never really paid attention to this guy untill this year. So far? I think he’s overrated, they run more than they throw most of the time and they don’t rely on him to win them games imo. Maybe in crunch time yea but he’s not leading the way against these garbage teams. I’d say he’s a little overrated so far but hey what do I know

  37. ronswansonsdinner says: Oct 30, 2011 10:59 AM

    I have nothing against Luck and I think he is a great quarterback, but imagine if Tebow turned out to be a better quarterback than him. All the “experts” would kill themselves or go into depression for a long time.

  38. jeremyb91 says: Oct 30, 2011 10:59 AM

    The problem with QB’s who don’t go Pro ASAP, is that scouts get more time to nit-pick. Some times its a good thing like Matt Leinart and scouts got to confirm their suspicions watching him play another year at USC while watching him throw ducks on his long ball and generally was more of a system QB with all the talent in the world around him. I am not seeing much to nit-pick about with Luck who led his team to a huge win against an NFL quality defensive coordinator with himself calling the plays. If he outsmarted Monte Kiffin, he’ll outsmart a lot of defensive coordinators in the NFL.

    It’s easy to forget when Peyton Manning came out he wasn’t even considered the QB with the most potential (Ryan Leaf) and some considered he had already reached his ceiling. Leaf was considered by many GM’s to be the best QB in the draft because of ceiling, but Manning was the “safest” because of his NFL pedigree.

    Expectations shouldn’t be as big of an issue with Luck similar to how they weren’t an issue for Manning. Both QB’s had fathers who were NFL QB’s. He has the quick-thinking and obvious Stanford smarts to be a QB who runs the show quickly in the NFL. He’ll assume leadership as a rookie and will only get better as his career progresses.

  39. fin72 says: Oct 30, 2011 11:01 AM

    No great quarterback has ever had a really amazing numbers wise rookie season, none.
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    Apparently you’ve never heard of Daniel Constantine Marino who finished his rookie year with a 96.0 QB rating.

  40. deadmanwalking47 says: Oct 30, 2011 11:05 AM

    he’s the next ryan leaf waiting to happen! if i think the colts take him and play behind manning a few seasons though,he will turn out as better than average.

  41. ttalb85 says: Oct 30, 2011 11:11 AM

    “Nowhere to go but down? The kid is great but college is all about athleticism. If you’re the strongest/fastest/bigest it will make you the best in college. Obviously he is and now he needs time in the NFL to adapt and learn. No great quarterback has ever had a really amazing numbers wise rookie season, none.”

    No offense intended, but I there was a rookie named Dan Marino who had pretty stellar numbers his first season as a pro? Maybe? I could be wrong…

  42. ttalb85 says: Oct 30, 2011 11:11 AM

    think there***

  43. bloggingpoodlewalker says: Oct 30, 2011 11:16 AM

    @Thegonzi : What?…who ever said Tebow was a cant miss prospect?…lol…sorry, but youre a liar,…most said Tebow was NOT a good prospect,…you clearly just make things up to help out your lame theory. However I busted you. Try harder next time fool.

  44. rexismybff says: Oct 30, 2011 11:20 AM

    I love all this “Elway was the greatest” talk the past decade-and-a-half. Took the guy about 13 years to win the big one, right? And the only way it happened was with lots of defense, Shannon Sharp, and mostly with lots of Terrell Davis. Also, illegal salary cap maneuvers by the owners (proven by their fines), and illegal cut-blocking by the o-line (still a point of controversy).

    In fact, you could easily make the case that lesser qb’s of that era, such as Neil O’Donnell or Drew Bledsoe, could have definitely won a Super Bowl with that defense and with Terrell running for 2,000 yards. For example, just two years later, Trent Dilfer won a SB with shannon Sharp, a great defense, and a powerful runner.

    Luck may want to find a better role model to emulate. Elway was a bit lucky NOT to retire as the guy with the three lopsided Super Bowl losses and a pair of busted knees.

  45. pleasantsurpriselefty says: Oct 30, 2011 11:32 AM

    After watching some of the stiffs they are trotting out in the No Fun League this year and watching that last drive to send the game into overtime last night (coincidence he wears #12?) how could you not be excited about his prospects?

    Of course, by the time the draft gets here they will have found out he’s a bed wetter and sucked his thumb at three yrs old. Don’t be fooled: brains + accuracy + work ethic =s franchise QB. If they call Mark Sanchez the Sanchise what will they call Luck?

  46. thridandlong says: Oct 30, 2011 11:32 AM

    ‘ Walk on Water ‘ pro scout phase completed I guess.

  47. realitypolice says: Oct 30, 2011 11:39 AM

    blueintown says:
    Oct 30, 2011 10:15 AM
    You’re dramatically exaggerating people’s expectations for Reggie Bush coming out of USC. First-ballot entry into Canton was never consensus. In fact, heading into the draft a good portion of scouts were convinced he would never be an every-down back.
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    I’m glad I’m not the only one who remembers it this way. I was stunned when I read that people were comparing him Gale Sayers (!?!?!?) and “put together a resume that would make him a first ballot candidate in Canton.”

    I would love to hear some sources cited on that one because I certainly don’t remember anything like that being said.

  48. jeff061 says: Oct 30, 2011 11:40 AM

    I was shocked to see Luck execute a soccer flop/fake fall hoping for a penalty in the USC game…

    Sideline play, he raises his arms and throws himself to the turf hoping for an easy 15. Fortunately the Ref looked at him like “Are you kidding me?”

    Hopefully he doesn’t have too much if this in his blood – an embarrasingly bad – amateur move by a top prospect

  49. realitypolice says: Oct 30, 2011 11:41 AM

    ronswansonsdinner says:
    Oct 30, 2011 10:59 AM
    I have nothing against Luck and I think he is a great quarterback, but imagine if Tebow turned out to be a better quarterback than him. All the “experts” would kill themselves or go into depression for a long time.
    ======================

    Well, then it’s a good thing we don’t have to worry about anything like that happening.

  50. whatswiththehate says: Oct 30, 2011 11:42 AM

    I’m beginning to understand the logic of these sports folks. If they hype u as the next coming of someone they admire, and push for u to go off the draft board first in whatever draft u enter, they are willing to give u room to grow and breathe. But if they paint u as the next Jamarcus, or Vince Yongs and do everything in the power to undermine everything u did in college as insignificant to u being in the NFL and u need to prove u belong in the elite class of QBs, u only get a small window to prove urself.

    I now understand the psychology of why QBs who were not really choosen by the media are considered failures so quickly. While those like Luck are given years to prove they belong. I guess it’s safe to say these sports media folks spin everything their way so they can never look wrong.

  51. mrmilstead says: Oct 30, 2011 11:42 AM

    He’s better than 20 QB’s in the league right now. Best prospect since Elway. Its a risk with every player some less than others.

  52. colaworld says: Oct 30, 2011 11:48 AM

    You know- I was looking at Luck and I was looking at the hype, but he looks just a tad bit better than Kellen Moore to me. And if someone went out and got Andrew Luck in the draft, getting Kellen Moore would be just as good, IMO.

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    I disagree. Kellen Moore is not even close to Luck, in terms of being an NFL prospect. Moore does not have the physical traits that Luck has. Not knocking Moore because he is a wonderful college QB but to say he is close to Luck is a bit crazy.

    Moore could be a Colt McCoy type QB in the NFL which is a solid starting QB. But Luck has the upside to be a great QB in the NFL. To me, that is not close.

  53. rock1068 says: Oct 30, 2011 11:50 AM

    Lucks already better tha figgy Newton—He hasnt stole anything, cheated, or lied about anything. Newton is just an low class person and his career wont last very long as long as he continues to slide head first–how stupid can he be . but then again he has alreadt answered that with his past

  54. frenchy121212 says: Oct 30, 2011 11:51 AM

    ESPN,espicially Mike and Mike, have pretty much set Luck up to be a disappointment.

  55. realitypolice says: Oct 30, 2011 11:52 AM

    jeff061 says:
    Oct 30, 2011 11:40 AM
    I was shocked to see Luck execute a soccer flop/fake fall hoping for a penalty in the USC game…

    Sideline play, he raises his arms and throws himself to the turf hoping for an easy 15. Fortunately the Ref looked at him like “Are you kidding me?”

    Hopefully he doesn’t have too much if this in his blood – an embarrasingly bad – amateur move by a top prospect
    ===========================

    I think you’re the one being overly dramatic.

    He was clearly pushed in the back 2-3 seconds after he went out of bounds. He didn’t flop or throw himself to the turf. He lost his balance from the shove and threw his arms in the air looking for the call, which is done probably 20-25 times a week by recievers and QB’s in the NFL.

    It was clearly a personal foul and if the game had been played in Palo Alto, it would have been called.

  56. Andre's Johnson says: Oct 30, 2011 11:53 AM

    He’s a very, very good colleege quarterback on a very, very good college team. And right now, there are probably five or six NFL teams who don’t have a quarterback on the roster who would make the Stanford team right now.

  57. phinfan says: Oct 30, 2011 11:56 AM

    Lienart had allot of hype too

  58. phinfan says: Oct 30, 2011 11:57 AM

    Harrington and Couch too

  59. howley1 says: Oct 30, 2011 12:01 PM

    Best prospect since Alex Smith!

  60. whatswiththehate says: Oct 30, 2011 12:03 PM

    JackLeone says:Oct 30, 2011 10:27 AM

    True enough Cam Newton and other qbs are putting up the numbers but they don’t have the wins to justify them being elite.

    No one ever considered Cam an elite QB..The majority of elite sports folks demanded he prove himself as a QB because as they kept stressing, playing in college isn’t quite the same as playing in the NFL.

    Funny how Luck is not only precieved to be NFL ready, some have him as an automatic lock for the HOF and he hasn’t even stepped foot into the NFL. Something tells me Luck will NOT be treated like Cam and any little sign of success will have the Peyton Manning label permanently hung around his neck. He will be given a whole lot of room to grow because he is expected to an elite QB like Peyton.

    Cam will never be an elite QB if any of these sports folks can help it. As soon as he starts to show any signs of weakness, he will be treated like all the other QBs of his kind. Just as D. McNabb.

  61. joyjoy69 says: Oct 30, 2011 12:33 PM

    And the most unfair thing about these high expectations? He’s going to get paid based upon them… how unfair is that? Shouldn’t he be forced to earn a salary in the league? Not ever facing that need will be such a disadvantage to him!

  62. howley1 says: Oct 30, 2011 12:50 PM

    If that’s a prediction, time will tell. If that’s intended to be statement of fact that reflects current reality, it’s absurd. Rodgers may be the best ever at the mental game.

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    Talk about absurdity ^^^

  63. howley1 says: Oct 30, 2011 12:53 PM

    I don’t know, man. I don’t want to hype him up too much but I saw a very good quarterback out there last night that could have an amazing NFL career.

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    Yeah, brilliant pick six late to send the game to OT. If his name was Romo you’d be clowning on him.

  64. backindasaddle says: Oct 30, 2011 1:16 PM

    “Unrealistic expectations” or not….his paycheck will in fact be very much real and he should damned well be expected to earn it.

  65. realfootballfan says: Oct 30, 2011 1:49 PM

    Just like I said that Newton would be good, Luck is going to be great also. The more, the merrier for NFL fans because we have too many bad quarterbacks.

    Barring a significant injury, he has been prepared to understand the game in the right way, which will compensate for what he lacks physically in comparison to Newton.

    What they both have in common though is when you watch them, they tilt the field to the team they’re playing for. You can’t buy that. Whenever I’ve seen that, it rarely lies.

    From Brett Favre at Southern Mississippi, to Michael Vick at Virginia Tech, to Peyton Manning, to Cam Newton and this kid, some guys just have an unbelievable competitive spirit that’s off the charts.

    I know it when I see it, and he’s got it.

  66. jeremyb91 says: Oct 30, 2011 2:00 PM

    Has anyone even thought or of considered the fact Andrew Luck doesn’t have any of the future NFL WR’s on his roster unlike other schools who give their students reduced requirements for entry.

    Last night watching Robert Woods and other players on USC’s roster with world-class speed and athletic ability obviously were problems for Stanford who has some speed, but a lot more smarts. If Luck had a future NFL WR or two or three like USC, his numbers would be through the roof.

    It’s going to be exciting to see what Luck can do with NFL WR’s, something he’s never enjoyed the luxury of having. Barkley, Foles, Tuel/Lobbestael, Price, and other PAC 12 schools all have groups of WR’s who are better than what Luck has.

  67. madisonave99 says: Oct 30, 2011 3:23 PM

    Yeah Andrew is definitely talented, hopefully he goes to a team that will be smart enough to get an O-Line around him and consistent coaching–like Peyton got coming out of Tennessee. The expectations are getting out of hand though, way too much for any QB that hasn’t played a down yet in the NFL

  68. 1historian says: Oct 31, 2011 7:29 AM

    99% of the time overall #1 don’t mean nothin’

    To that smart list of Brady – 6th round #199 – and Montana – 3rd round, may I add John Unitas – 9th round, and cut by the team that drafted him without even having a chance to show what he could do.

    And if he doesn’t get the right coach he’s toast. I am a big Brady fan and was a big Montana fan and I loved Unitas but I don’t believe they would have been anywhere near as good as they were and are without the right coach, and this applies especially to Montana and Brady.

  69. 07vrod says: Nov 1, 2011 11:40 AM

    If Luck could have tutelage under Peyton Manning, he’d have that much more going for in in is future NFL play

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