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Raiders sign T.J. Houshmandzadeh

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Perhaps Carson Palmer is the one running the Raiders now.

Oakland announced the signing of Palmer’s old buddy T.J. Houshmandzadeh on Tuesday.  It’s a move that would have never happened if Al Davis was still around.

Sure, Davis liked signing aging veterans.  He also liked speed, speed, and more speed at wide receiver. And he didn’t like taking away playing time from promising Raiders draft picks.

Housh knows Palmer well and should pick up Hue Jackson’s offense in short order.  But there was little evidence last year in Baltimore that Houshmandzadeh was still a quality pro.

The Raiders will presumably use Housh as a slot receiver, with either Jacoby Ford, Darrius Heyward-Bey, or Denarious Moore coming off the field.

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  1. flavordave says: Nov 1, 2011 6:13 PM

    Is Corey Dillion, Jeff Blake and Carl Pickens on speed dial?

  2. bloggingpoodlewalker says: Nov 1, 2011 6:14 PM

    Hes there as slot guy, 3rd and 5 guy, Carson knows him well,…good move. Raider Nation. By the way Im still laughing about that Rivers botched snap last night,..can always count on the Chargers for a laugh.

  3. getweird4u says: Nov 1, 2011 6:16 PM

    Just sitting back waiting for this draft pick to keep climbing 2011 Raydas 7-9

  4. tfbuckfutter says: Nov 1, 2011 6:16 PM

    Good call!

    Bring the Raiders back to the glory days of the 2008 Bengals.

  5. mindseye33 says: Nov 1, 2011 6:17 PM

    We don’t need him…

  6. KeepitReal says: Nov 1, 2011 6:18 PM

    This makes absolutely NO sense. At least wait a couple of weeks to see how the rookies perform with Palmer, Dam!

  7. acerockefellar says: Nov 1, 2011 6:19 PM

    As a bengals fan i’m surprised it took this long for someone to sign him. He can get an attitude reaaaaal quick though.

  8. seahawks4alltime says: Nov 1, 2011 6:21 PM

    Well as a Seahawks fan I’m sure Housh hasn’t been at the top of his game since the last time he played along side Palmer.

  9. firedup1 says: Nov 1, 2011 6:21 PM

    Desperate.

  10. ern215 says: Nov 1, 2011 6:22 PM

    wtf are my raiders thinking about?
    we need to let our young receivers blossom, i really dont understand the moves we are making since big AL’s death ……………………please get it together front office, i got mad love for hue jackson, but lets be real, hes a first year head coach and they are giving him the power of mike holmgren……………………..i just dont get it!!

  11. rochesterraider says: Nov 1, 2011 6:23 PM

    Housh could be a quality assistant coach on the side lines, possibly playing an occasional 3rd down, best of all he’s at the pro-rated veteran minumum. I also think that having a familiar face for Palmer will speed up his developement and chemistry with the rest of the wide reciever core.

    I like the move.

  12. ravensfreak00 says: Nov 1, 2011 6:24 PM

    I’m surprised the Raiders signed him, to be honest. Good luck to him, though.

  13. paulisrollin says: Nov 1, 2011 6:25 PM

    Haha like I said in the last post about this. Welcome to the “anything to keep Carson happy” days of the Raiders. You see how well that went for us! Have fun!

  14. calibear831 says: Nov 1, 2011 6:25 PM

    We all know that Carson just did this as a favor for T.J so he could get another chance to prove himself n hopefully someone picks him up next year. . .we don’t need T.j!

  15. benwantsababyruth says: Nov 1, 2011 6:26 PM

    I’m a ravens fan, and watching TJ last year, I felt like he got too much criticism. I’m not sure how many targets he had, but it sure didn’t seem like many. Besides dropping the pass that ended our season, he really didn’t play badly. He won the steelers game for us and had some other huge catches (at browns in january.) I’m interested to see how he performs for the raiduhs.

  16. goldrush36 says: Nov 1, 2011 6:26 PM

    Ocho soon to follow

  17. ronlm says: Nov 1, 2011 6:27 PM

    I’m sure they signed him on the cheap. Hue wants to win now, and Palmer will have had only a couple days over two weeks before he is expected to lead the Raiders against the Broncos. TJ spent the summer catching passes from Palmer… they have a report. Don’t make anything more out of this than Hue wanting to give Palmer an outlet he knows well. TJ will probably play mainly on third down… and maybe a some redzone looks.

  18. rockemsockemrobots says: Nov 1, 2011 6:30 PM

    If I were a Raiders fan I would be pretty upset. With J.C going down it really put a swadoosh on the promising season they were having. Carson Palmer is obviously the guy for the future now, and he should want to be building a repertoire with the young promising guys that are there.

    I would take any 3 of those guys over T.J at this point anyway.

  19. carsons401k says: Nov 1, 2011 6:36 PM

    I thought Palmer was going to use the bye week to work with the young wide receivers already on his team. Instead, it sounds like he used the bye to lobby the Raiders management for questionable personnel moves. Two questions: 1) Why not sign him earlier in the bye? 2) Will TJ be happy with his new Madden rating?

  20. tatum064 says: Nov 1, 2011 6:37 PM

    He looked done v. the Steelers a few years ago.. i agree with Hue wanted to give Palmer a receiver familiar with him … appeared some receivers had trouble with getting led on passes, because with Jason Campbell they had to usually sit and wait for the ball.

    He ran his mouth up in Seattle, though….if it works, its all good in Hue Jack City.

  21. stilllovemybungles says: Nov 1, 2011 6:37 PM

    Chad Ochocinco will be available soon Oakland, may take a 3rd round pick to get him but what the hell at this point. There goes your season and your locker room.

  22. wetpaperbag3 says: Nov 1, 2011 6:38 PM

    If anything, this only means that Derek Hagen (#6 WR and a possession receiver) gets squeezed out.

  23. blackbeardk says: Nov 1, 2011 6:39 PM

    Raiders possession receiver Chaz Shilens has not been able to stay injury free. Boss has been great but seems to get a concussion every time he catches a pass. Raiders needed someone to move the chains and block for their backs. TJ was signed for the minimum and will likely be a possession receiver for us, who already is familiar with the offense and the QB…

  24. redrifle14 says: Nov 1, 2011 6:40 PM

    This is classic Palmer. If you think this is bad, just wait until next week when the Raiders drop Pryor for Palmer’s brother Jordan. He got away with this junk in Cincy. Now he is steamrolling the Raiders. Kinda funny though.

  25. ronaldmexico says: Nov 1, 2011 6:46 PM

    Hopefully TJ will play better than he has in the last few years now that he’s back with Palmer. It doesn’t seem real likely, but then again many thought Randy Moss was done after his time in Oakland and it worked out well for NE for a few years.

  26. dyoboiz88 says: Nov 1, 2011 6:48 PM

    Well if T.J. Acts up they can drop him as fast as they signed him!!!

  27. Robert says: Nov 1, 2011 6:51 PM

    I’m sensing TO is next……..

  28. cliffordc05 says: Nov 1, 2011 6:55 PM

    Low risk move for the Raiders and it makes sense in the short term. As long as Housh doesn’t develop the attitude and shoot off his mouth this could work.

  29. steviekthr3e says: Nov 1, 2011 6:58 PM

    Who did they get rid of to make room?

    Not a fan. Hue don’t start signing every Bengal you coached.

  30. nuclearwarfare says: Nov 1, 2011 7:03 PM

    Considering that Houshmandzadeh worked out with Palmer over the offseason, this makes sense. He would be more in sync with Palmer than the other Raiders WRs.

    This move is probably just more of a comfort thing for Palmer, until he becomes more confident with the other receivers.

  31. bigmas26 says: Nov 1, 2011 7:05 PM

    He was his most productive under Hue Jackson. Hes not a random Wr. He was coached by Hue…. Im gonna put my trust on Hue Jackson on this one.

  32. fwbrodie says: Nov 1, 2011 7:06 PM

    Housh is terrible, but thinks he’s an all pro. It’s a painful combination. When a slow receiver gets slower, you get Housh.

  33. fwbrodie says: Nov 1, 2011 7:09 PM

    stilllovemybungles says: Nov 1, 2011 6:37 PM

    Chad Ochocinco will be available soon Oakland, may take a 3rd round pick to get him but what the hell at this point. There goes your season and your locker room.
    _________________

    Chad Johnson for a third round pick? You’re kidding.

  34. d3murf says: Nov 1, 2011 7:09 PM

    I’m not so sure about “Raiders” fans knowledge of personnel or scheme. The Young talent you guys are referring to (Heyward-Bey, D.Moore, L.Murphy, Ford) are all OUTSIDE THREATS in Hue Jackson’s scheme. Ford oscillates b/w slot and outside, but his superior speed makes him more of threat on the outside.

    The Raiders have lacked a tough underneath threat to do the dirty work. D. Hagan is not that. Kevin Boss(TE) is that. The Raiders often put him in the slot in the 3-4 wide sets. Housh will fill that slot void. The Ravens used him as a downfield threat and so did the Seahawks. He is not that. With teams scared of all the outside speed–this will allow Housh to go against linebackers and safeties–and move the chains. This isn’t a bad move and will not stunt the growth of the young receivers whatsoever.

    Like always people have to be negative about virtually everything. Conspiracy Theorists..smh follow me on twitter @D3murf and we can talk Raiders or any team. I watch them all…

  35. slammincamnewton says: Nov 1, 2011 7:11 PM

    TJ is no Randy Moss and Moss is no Megatron.

  36. ud1hens says: Nov 1, 2011 7:12 PM

    Just a heads up Raiders…if it’s 4th and 18 with the season on the line, don’t throw it to him.

    Signed,
    Last Years’ Ravens

  37. rickthefactor says: Nov 1, 2011 7:12 PM

    I am sure the young wide receivers love the fact their new “franchise qb” has all the faith in the world in them! Such a dumb move, TJ is DONE!

  38. p4hbiz says: Nov 1, 2011 7:15 PM

    Just Win Baby!

  39. kylexitron says: Nov 1, 2011 7:17 PM

    hopefully the past couple seasons have humbled him, I was high on him when he came to seattle but he played and acted like a baby.

    That being said after sitting at home on sundays I wouldn’t be surprised if he keeps his mouth shut and just plays decently and helps the raiders out, at least this season.

  40. raiderbeliever says: Nov 1, 2011 7:20 PM

    Wow. What a disappointment.

    There was no need for acquiring him. He thought his madden rating sucked before? LMAO!!!! Wonder what it is now?

    It looks as if the hope I had for my Raiders is being swallowed up by a has-been QB that may never have it again ( I hope he does though) and a weak WR prima donna (who has no reason to be one whatsoever.)

    I can see it now. Jordan Palmer in next.

    I’ll accept that under 4 conditions 1) He supplants Boller 2) He’s behind Pryor 3) Carson is actually better than a good QB 4) Jordan never starts as QB and when Palmer is through, Pryor takes over, and Jordan goes bye-bye.

  41. hendeeze says: Nov 1, 2011 7:24 PM

    when did Carson Palmer usurp Manning as the player with the most clout with the front office?

  42. 808raiderinparadise says: Nov 1, 2011 7:26 PM

    The Oakland Bengals:

    Palmer … QB
    TJ … WR
    Blackstock … LB
    Ndukwe … S
    Bresnahan … D Coordinator
    Jackson … Head Coach

  43. gamermwm says: Nov 1, 2011 7:32 PM

    Good move. About time someone signed him
    The NFL likes to shoo guys out the door a little too fast for me. Bet I could start a former all star team with at least a 9-7 record by the end of the year with the free agent list we had at the beginning of this season

    There’s a fine line between having a team full of youth and promise and having a team full of 2-3 year flash in the pans and nobodies

  44. sophiethegreatdane says: Nov 1, 2011 7:43 PM

    “It’s a move that would have never happened if Al Davis was still around.”
    _______________________

    Yeah, because Al Davis was known throughout the land as the poster boy for “moves that made sense.”

  45. brstevens says: Nov 1, 2011 7:52 PM

    Being a Baltimore fan, I thought it was a good move when the Ravens signed Housh last year, thinking he was humbled some by his tenure in Seattle and wanted to keep his head down and let his play do his talking for him. And then he went on every sports talk show on every radio station every week whining about wanting the ball. His production on the field doesn’t come close to justifying his act off of it.

    Have fun with him, Raider Nation!

  46. bengalsfan52311 says: Nov 1, 2011 7:59 PM

    Palmer to Housh – that’s a great combo, if it’s 2005.

  47. bigfootballfan says: Nov 1, 2011 8:02 PM

    when did Carson Palmer usurp Manning as the player with the most clout with the front office?

    Palmer = back room politics. Brown bent over backwards to appease the prince in the high chair. Got players he wanted (who flopped), luxary seats, little brother on team, leave Bratowski alone, put players in his “doghouse”.

  48. samoanjungle says: Nov 1, 2011 8:06 PM

    First, don’t pin this all on Palmer, Hue knows TJ well.
    Second, TJ was a class act in Cincy, loved by the fans, a player rep, Goodell sought his input on things…don’t slay a guy for a couple of comments.
    He went to teams that used him differently. He is more of a Welker type, hit him on the quick slant etc. He will put himself between the defender and the ball – he is tuff and a competitor.
    He will make some third down play for the Raiders.

  49. 4512dawg4512 says: Nov 1, 2011 8:08 PM

    haha, T.J over T.O? I think Al Davis is wrecking the team from the afterlife

  50. war71 says: Nov 1, 2011 8:14 PM

    Low risk, high reward as far as I see it. You get guy who is familiar with Palmer for the league veteran minimum. As far as Houshmazillies production with the Ravens…He was playing with a developing QB who is honestly…very average to slightly above average. If it works great, if it don’t what are you really out? Derek Hagan, Chaz (made of glass) Schillens & Brandon Meyer loses a little play time? McFadden, Bush, DHB, Jacoby, and even possibly Murphy are still the backbone.

  51. jmann3157 says: Nov 1, 2011 8:27 PM

    That call was 4 years to late. He dissapeared with the ravens. Carson sucks. Just what the raiders need a buch of old bengals to show the young players how to win. They should call up chad ochocinco too. Idk what happened to chad.

  52. scottwsx96 says: Nov 1, 2011 8:28 PM

    4512dawg4512 says:
    Nov 1, 2011 8:08 PM

    haha, T.J over T.O? I think Al Davis is wrecking the team from the afterlife

    ——-

    I would definitely take T.J. over T.O. T.J. was clutch on third down, whereas T.O. won’t ever try on the hard catches.

    Huge T.J. fan here. As long as Oakland uses him in the slot, I think he can still succeed. Don’t need top end speed to play the slot and he was never a fast guy anyway even when he was challenging Wes Welker for the most receptions in a season.

  53. brstevens says: Nov 1, 2011 8:34 PM

    As far as Houshmazillies production with the Ravens…He was playing with a developing QB who is honestly…very average to slightly above average.

    —-

    I don’t necessarily disagree with this statement, but Anquan Boldin had a relatively off year last year trying to get in synch with Flacco too and he managed to just shut up and play. And Q had something going for him that Housh didn’t: job security.

  54. jbaxt says: Nov 1, 2011 8:41 PM

    As a Chiefs fans this news sucks. Now they’ll like score at least 3 points, only losing by 25, next time they play…

    Of course that doesn’t make any sense. What’s an over the hill out of league WR going to do for them? That said, if you think Carson Palmer’s going to save your season I supposed one could conclude that anything is possible… Isn’t that right Hue?

    Faiders go 6-10 but GREAT news faider trolls, you guys can look forward to a 2nd, 5th and 7th round picks to rebuild next year.

    Only to go 5-11 in 2013. Priceless!

  55. nineroutsider says: Nov 1, 2011 9:12 PM

    The Niners looked at Housh and then signed some no name guy who was at least young. I think they would have signed Housh if they felt he had something left.

    So, sticking with my in Harbaugh I trust motto, this guy must be toast, Jimmy said so.

  56. mike913 says: Nov 1, 2011 9:12 PM

    tj whos your momma = championship

  57. dennyg2 says: Nov 1, 2011 9:18 PM

    It didn’t work in Cincinnati, so why in the heck will it work in Oakland for an aging average QB and a old WR, who was unemployed? Best of luck Raiders!

  58. dumbolt says: Nov 1, 2011 9:25 PM

    this sucks , the raiders are just getting better every week, and my chargers are getting worse

  59. raiderbeliever says: Nov 1, 2011 9:25 PM

    jbaxt says:Nov 1, 2011 8:41 PM

    As a Chiefs fans this news sucks. Now they’ll like score at least 3 points, only losing by 25, next time they play…

    Of course that doesn’t make any sense. What’s an over the hill out of league WR going to do for them? That said, if you think Carson Palmer’s going to save your season I supposed one could conclude that anything is possible… Isn’t that right Hue?

    Faiders go 6-10 but GREAT news faider trolls, you guys can look forward to a 2nd, 5th and 7th round picks to rebuild next year.

    Only to go 5-11 in 2013. Priceless!
    ———————–

    I find your post both amusing and tarded.

    Anyone could’ve (and should’ve) beat the Raiders by 84 points when we threw 6 picks with Boller and a Palmer who just arrived.

    That your lame chefs only got 28? Well. Telltale of your tardedness. I’m happy you all think you’re good, beating teams that were sorry (3) and one in dissaray at QB (the Raiders.) Yes, be proud of nothing.

    Congrats you barely beat the Norfs. W/O that Phumble, you’d have lost at home to those lames.

  60. davidhuber10 says: Nov 1, 2011 9:29 PM

    They need get ocho from the patriots for this to work out

  61. radrntn says: Nov 1, 2011 9:30 PM

    thats funny Gregg, because I remember guys like Jerry Rice, Randy Moss, Andre Rison, etc….all joining the raiders, and all taking time away from the young receivers who the raiders draft every year in every draft.

    One thing for sure Al was going to draft a WR, and a DB every draft, that is what was for sure, so I beg to differ from you on your opinion that Al would not do this. Fact is Al did whatever Al wanted to , and it seems like Mark is following in his old mans footsteps.

  62. americankris says: Nov 1, 2011 9:31 PM

    T.J. Whosyamama

    Championship

  63. davidhuber10 says: Nov 1, 2011 9:32 PM

    Have they sign his brother yet Jordan palmer I always thought it was a package deal with Carson

  64. 6ringsteelers says: Nov 1, 2011 9:33 PM

    @flavordave

    Is Corey Dillion, Jeff Blake and Carl Pickens on speed dial?

    ===================================

    Don’t forget Ickey Woods!

  65. swervinmervin says: Nov 1, 2011 9:38 PM

    Al Davis also signed a slow and way past his prime Andre Rison in 2000. Rison at that point in his career was nothing more than a good route runner. Not too different from this Housh signing.

  66. danospleasanton says: Nov 1, 2011 9:41 PM

    So now Carson is running the team? This may be good on route timing but that’s it. He will not stretch the field, everthing will be short and underneath. Sucks for those young horses Carson spoke so highly of. ~HIRE A GM LIKE MIKE LOMBARDI NOW

  67. warrenmoon says: Nov 1, 2011 9:44 PM

    Party like its 2005!

  68. hellswitch says: Nov 1, 2011 9:44 PM

    TJ? Good luck with that.

  69. osnap305 says: Nov 1, 2011 9:46 PM

    You know. I’m really sick of this “What Would Al Davis Do” garbage. Is this really going to looming over every Raider signing from here on out? Give it a rest already, let the man rest already.

  70. justwinbaby29 says: Nov 1, 2011 9:47 PM

    Raider hating here is borderline comical. TJ is going to be a 5th or 4th WR at best. Good vet and lockerroom guy to have.

    Raiders are 4-3 and tied for first. Their schedule is tough but go check out SD and KC (after their next two games) schedule over the final nine weeks. It’s brutal.

    SD has lost two brutal games, Norv is their HC and Rivers is struggling. KC whipped the Raiders are playing better but are still a flawed team.

    The Raiders will win the AFC West with a 10-6 record.

  71. hellswitch says: Nov 1, 2011 9:51 PM

    Have to love it when a Kansas City Chief fan has balls to come in here and knock any team. Amazing what a sudden winning record does. No worries, dude. Ride it to the top. I’m a Dallas fan. I know all about all hype, short periods of being above .500 and limited glory ;)

  72. 4512dawg4512 says: Nov 1, 2011 9:51 PM

    ScottWSX96- Nothing against T.J here, but T.O not trying on the “hard catches”? Look at his highlights, you don’t see him making a lot of hard catches because he uses his size and speed to get separation. T.J is good and he and Carson have a history so good for them, I think they’ll do well. As a T.O fan, I’m glad he’s not playing for the raiders

  73. stevincinci says: Nov 1, 2011 9:54 PM

    Good luck with that Oakland. Actually, T.J. did a lot of good with the Nati. Not so much sure what he can bring now, but, don’t expect much.

  74. enders9 says: Nov 1, 2011 9:56 PM

    scottwsx96 says: Nov 1, 2011 8:28 PM

    I would definitely take T.J. over T.O. T.J. was clutch on third down, whereas T.O. won’t ever try on the hard catches.

    Huge T.J. fan here. As long as Oakland uses him in the slot, I think he can still succeed. Don’t need top end speed to play the slot and he was never a fast guy anyway even when he was challenging Wes Welker for the most receptions in a season.

    —————————————————–

    TO is ten times the receiver that TJ is.

  75. humb0lt says: Nov 1, 2011 10:11 PM

    D.E.S.P.E.R.A.T.E.

  76. raideralex99 says: Nov 1, 2011 10:12 PM

    Great move … now the opposing defense will key TJ which should leave the speedy kids one on one … plus if and when Carson is in trouble he knows his easy outlet is TJ. It’s a win win situation.

  77. ronlm says: Nov 1, 2011 10:19 PM

    Wow. The ignorance of so many of these comments is staggering. The Raiders signed the guy for the league minimum on a half year deal. He will play the slot in certain situations. He is a role player… and yet so many of you peeps think the Raiders signed him to be their number one guy. Seriously… get a grip.

  78. klunge says: Nov 1, 2011 10:24 PM

    It actually makes perfect sense: a QB who can’t throw anymore paired with a receiver who can’t run or catch anymore. Why not? The connection is only as good as it’s weakest link anyways.

  79. 707Raiders707 says: Nov 1, 2011 10:28 PM

    this is bull hue jackson you need to pump the brakes if you make any roster moves it should be to cut BOLLER!!!!!

  80. 6thsense79 says: Nov 1, 2011 10:37 PM

    Funny I thought one reason Palmer gave for not pushing to get T.O. was to give the young receivers a chance. Now he pushes for TJ? Oh well.

  81. racerx1225 says: Nov 1, 2011 10:52 PM

    They’re thinking Chaz Schilens is made of glass and is off the field more than he is on it. They’re right.

  82. seatownballers says: Nov 1, 2011 11:09 PM

    Buyer beware. This guy is a cancer. am I the only that remembers him dropping catch in baltimore in playoff s?

  83. hrdcorbengalsfan says: Nov 1, 2011 11:10 PM

    @raidersalex99

    Dream on dude. Welcome to diva land.

  84. Deb says: Nov 1, 2011 11:13 PM

    Al was right about wanting speed at the receiver position. And they won’t get much of it from Housh. If he stays true to form, they will get a lot of grumbling, whining, and attitude. Sure hope they didn’t pay much. But if he really wants to play, perhaps he’ll perform well as a slot receiver. He does know Palmer and shouldn’t have trouble picking up the system. But Carson’s time would be better spent developing a rhythm with the Raiders’ young speedsters.

  85. cincybert says: Nov 1, 2011 11:13 PM

    So TJ has gotten the Carson Palmer stamp of approval and the Raiders are good with that? This is the same Carson Palmer that lobbied for, and got, Laverneous Coles in 2009 and Matt Jones, Antonio Bryant, and T.O. in 2010, right?

  86. wcman says: Nov 1, 2011 11:18 PM

    Hmm 81 posts on Whoseyourmama joining the Raiders, many from clueless people who just hate on anything the Raiders do. It’s not like the Raiders couldn’t use an experiened vet who can pick up a first down once in awhile. The young WR’s will still be there and have another guy to learn something from. Sounds like a good move to me.

  87. conjecture101 says: Nov 2, 2011 12:09 AM

    Horrific Move! With all due respect to TJ as an off the field human being. Im a Raider fan and this move is complete garbage to me, we’re built on speed at receiver not washed up possession receivers who even in their prime didn’t come near the qualifications for a Raider receiver. As for Greg Rosenthal he again proves that he simply does not watch the teams he’s commenting about. While he is right that it’s doubtful King Al would have brought in this washed up 5 flat 40 runner who has the receiving skills of a blocking tight end minus the blocking skills, he’s sadly mistaken if he thinks there’s a chance in the world that Darius Heyward-Bey(a guy having an exceptional breakout year after you media clowns trashed him for the last 2 years) is coming off the field for this guy.

  88. staffordsyear says: Nov 2, 2011 12:17 AM

    Boy,this guys career sure dropped like a rock!…it looks like his buddy chad Johnson (I won’t use ochocinco) is well on his way too.

  89. jm91rs says: Nov 2, 2011 12:32 AM

    fwbrodie says:
    Nov 1, 2011 7:09 PM
    stilllovemybungles says: Nov 1, 2011 6:37 PM

    Chad Ochocinco will be available soon Oakland, may take a 3rd round pick to get him but what the hell at this point. There goes your season and your locker room.
    _________________

    Chad Johnson for a third round pick? You’re kidding.

    __________________

    Carson Palmer for a 1st and 2nd? Any trade after that ridiculous deal seems perfectly possible.

  90. jm91rs says: Nov 2, 2011 12:38 AM

    Something happened when tj went to Seattle. I think he thought he was hot stuff and they used him as a deep threat which obviously doesn’t suit his lack of speed. If he can be used like he was in Cincinnati he might be able to help on 3rd downs. I’d be surprised if he hasn’t been humbled and starts playing at a good level for the remainder of the year.

  91. jakethegrift says: Nov 2, 2011 12:39 AM

    Hue Jackson is a risk taker, but he is a high stakes player. Not a small bets player. With TJ, the Raiders can stack the line when necessary and it will possibly free up other receivers from tight coverage. If DHB is suddenly double covered, the inside slots could free up more often. The inside field can also free up when safeties bite on the outside speedsters, allowing Palmer to dish out passes on the inside. Also, this allows for the McFadden to gain some breathing room, and avoid extensive poundings. I usually question the Raiders roster decisions, but I am not disappointed yet at this season, and only expect the Raiders to improve offensively with the addition of Housh.

  92. Humboldt High Life says: Nov 2, 2011 12:57 AM

    I was worried that JC seemed uncomfortable with Boss–especially after how reliant on Miller for a target he was last year. I am not at all tripping on this new cut-rate buddy movie combo. Hardly a gamble.

    Oh, and it cracks me up that anyone would assume the Chiefs have the next two games won already.

  93. ron69 says: Nov 2, 2011 12:59 AM

    The next Raiders signing could be very well a new head coach, certainly Hue is acting like a GM, as a Raider fan I’m just loving it.

  94. oldskoolchopper says: Nov 2, 2011 3:28 AM

    Let’s just be honest. Jacoby has dropped a lot of passes this season and without a good training camp or off season workouts has not improved on last years performance. Murphy hasn’t even been close to looking decent in his limited opportunities. Schillens can’t be counted on with injuries. Moore has disappeared and dropped a big pass at the 5 last week that turned in to an int. I have liked Hagan in his limited opportunities. Not sure why he isn’t starting opposite DHB. DHB is the only receiver producing right now.

    I disagree with Guitierez and I think TJ is very low risk, high reward for his 1 year, 500k deal. I think he can come in and add some production right off the bat. If he doesn’t do well, you don’t resign him. But, he can help with his leadership too.

    Not really a big deal to be honest except everyone is on the Carson connection thing in a negative way. It is really a Hue connection thing.

    I would have liked to see Schillens IR’d or released instead of Hagan though.

  95. mmcdan133 says: Nov 2, 2011 5:58 AM

    I just love the Raiders.

    ‘Let’s run a 1970s style vertical offense with 2004 players.’ GENIUS!!

    I heard Edgerrin James, Ahman Green, Joe Horn, and Torry Holt are looking for work. You might give them a call to round out your midseason ‘rebuild’. What a joke.

  96. GG Eden says: Nov 2, 2011 6:45 AM

    I can admit that I have no idea how all this could play out.

    But it will turn out either a masterstroke or end up a cluster****.

    Basically, there’s apprehension and time will tell. I mean, how Palmer and TJ perform, but also the lockerroom dynamics, whether we next see Jordan Palmer signed, whether the season falls apart or excels, the reigns tightened or kept loose on Jackson, etc.

    On face value I’m just willing to see what happens and can understand the ‘pros’ to these moves.

    I mean, this is the kind of stuff a Kiffin or McDaniels does. They’re young, rookie HCs, have all these ideas and exuberance buzzing around their heads, if they’re given TOO MUCH leeway they can be unwise and fritter away draft value, release talented young players on the brink of stepping up, upsetting team harmony/chemistry, etc.

    I believe in Hue, but with Al there, wiser head there to soundboard ideas off of, someone who could teach and instruct a young HC in the ways of the NFL world. Kiffin didn’t respect Al’s input enough, fought him and challenged him like he thought he knew more than Al. Whereas Hue really worked with Al and respected him. However, right now it appears Hue has, as Mike pointed out before, contractual power to answer only to the owner, who when it was Al, was also the GM, but right now and perhaps even after they hire a GM, there’s that contractual hitch there.

    Anyway, I guess it’s the nature of coaches/GMs etc, to hire people they’ve previously worked with. So no biggie yet, but Hue turning the Raiders into the Bengals has to be tempered.

  97. jay0o1 says: Nov 2, 2011 7:24 AM

    Oh Raiders fans, this is CLASSIC Carson Palmer. You’ll find out soon.

    Say one thing to the media i.e. “We just have too many good young wide receivers to make room for an aging veteran like T.O.” Then get the raiders to sign Housh, so that the dynamic duo can rack up 5 and 6 yard receptions on third and 10 or more.

    Another great example of Palmer’s fake leadership skills. Always the politically correct answer. He doesn’t have the cajones to say what you mean and mean what you say. Never wants to look like the bad guy or create any controversy. Even his “retirement” was passive aggressive. As a Bengal fan, I would have had a lot more respect for him if he stepped up like a man and said I don’t want to play for the Bengals anymore because the organization is poorly run. Instead, after he gets traded and actually makes a statement, all he says is how great the organization is and what great fans Cincy has. Pathetic!

  98. 1buckeye76 says: Nov 2, 2011 7:46 AM

    Add him to your fantasy roster, Palmer will wear him out on 3rd down.

  99. rgwhodey says: Nov 2, 2011 7:59 AM

    Good move, just gets Carson more comfortable, now they have 3 good players that came from the Bengals.. Ndukwe is a beast he’ll be a great addition to this team, Carson is a good QB just needs time to figure the plays out and what he has at WR, and TJ is a great possession receiver, i dont like the guy after the way he left the Bengals but he’s a good receiver, really surprised it took this long for him to get picked up..

  100. tdk24 says: Nov 2, 2011 8:37 AM

    It makes sense to have a veteran wr around. Right now Chaz is the vet, and the only thing he can teach the young guys is how to get on IR every year.

  101. anxovies says: Nov 2, 2011 5:56 PM

    It’s a good move. A safety valve for Palmer while he acclimates, and if he doesn’t work out, the Raiders are no worse for it.

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