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With Ochocinco silent, Patriots looking for wideout solutions

Steelers' Taylor breaks up a pass to Patriots' Price in the fourth quarter of their NFL football game in Pittsburgh Reuters

The Patriots offense has struggled the last two games for a variety of reasons, but the biggest one may be the team’s inability to beat press man coverage on the outside.

The Cowboys and Steelers both did a good job jamming the New England wideouts. Without a true speed guy on the roster, the Patriots don’t have a player that can make defenses pay for this approach.

“We wanted to throw off some timing, play some press coverage, really try to be aggressive in our zones and it worked today,” Steelers safety Ryan Clark told Tom Curran of CSNNE.com on Sunday. “It’s not basketball. Turn it into a football game. Because if it’s basketball, we can’t beat ‘em. I think we were able to do that.”

This is where Chad Ochocinco should help out, but that doesn’t look likely. He hasn’t caught a pass the last two games. The team may look to second year pro Taylor Price more.

“[Price] has done a good job in practice and he’s a guy that we’ve got to get him some more reps in the games,” offensive coordinator Bill O’Brien said Tuesday.

The Patriots need to try something different. They don’t really have a vertical threat, and it doesn’t appear like Ochocinco is going to become useful anytime soon.

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46 Responses to “With Ochocinco silent, Patriots looking for wideout solutions”
  1. bozosforall says: Nov 1, 2011 2:55 PM

    Face it, Pats fans. Your team is sinking fast. Time to man the lifeboats and start rowing for your closets (where you all hid back in the 90s, when your teams won diddly squat).

  2. edmazeing1 says: Nov 1, 2011 2:56 PM

    To bad trade deadline pass, Raiders have plenty of vertical threat & could use draft picks!!!

  3. trbowman says: Nov 1, 2011 2:56 PM

    Why has Bill even kept him around?

  4. towniesman says: Nov 1, 2011 3:00 PM

    Randy Moss please !!

  5. steelbydesign says: Nov 1, 2011 3:02 PM

    I was watching the game on Sunday and lmao at the fact that every time Ochocinco lined up, Phil Simms felt it necessary to say “Chad Ochocinco is lined up at the bottom of your screen.”

    As if to say, watch out for this guy… When in reality Chad hasn’t been good for about 3 years.

  6. ownbay says: Nov 1, 2011 3:05 PM

    Wow Im shocked how quickly the 85 has fallen.

  7. burghman says: Nov 1, 2011 3:06 PM

    When was the last time Ochocinco was in any way relevant? Why are the Patriots even messing with this fool…?

  8. squinn21 says: Nov 1, 2011 3:11 PM

    He should change his name back to Chad Johnson now.

  9. mikehockhurtz says: Nov 1, 2011 3:14 PM

    Wideout isn’t the problem…they won the Superbowl with average receivers….

    Defensive Back is problem

  10. kd727 says: Nov 1, 2011 3:17 PM

    Chad is awed by this entire ordeal

  11. 2sausage11 says: Nov 1, 2011 3:18 PM

    OH RANDY

  12. raylewis52 says: Nov 1, 2011 3:22 PM

    Trouble beating press coverage ?

    Dr. Prescribes Terrell Owens.

  13. captainwisdom8888 says: Nov 1, 2011 3:26 PM

    Tom Brady is capable of turning any receiver into a household name, a pro-bowler even. If Chad can’t get it done with one of the best QBs that has ever graced the game of football…what can we honestly expect from him playing for anyone else?

  14. damko12 says: Nov 1, 2011 3:38 PM

    Randy moss Randy moss Randy moss. I better not hear the words t.o

  15. ramjam28 says: Nov 1, 2011 3:39 PM

    chad uno.dos.tres more games and then they should dump this guy

  16. ogre2010 says: Nov 1, 2011 3:40 PM

    Bring Randy Moss back!! His job is to take the top of defense……EVERYBODY ONE CLAP!!

  17. glocker7 says: Nov 1, 2011 3:41 PM

    Pats fans-

    Give up all hope of any sort of super bowl run with that awful awful defense. The Glory Days are over, accept it! This is what happens when all you have is an emotional quarterback named Brady. (see ESPN interview asking Brady how he felt when he was drafted in the last round)

  18. bearsrulepackdrool says: Nov 1, 2011 3:42 PM

    They need to worry about that secondary instead of the WR corps.

  19. micronin127 says: Nov 1, 2011 3:52 PM

    Sinking fast? They are exactly the same as last year. A talented offensive team that will probably end up at 12-4.

    And their defense still isn’t good enough to win a game where the offense struggles, so they won’t get to the Super Bowl.

  20. citizenstrange says: Nov 1, 2011 3:53 PM

    Maybe Ochocinco should hire Tedy Bruschi as a Life Coach.

  21. gs7101 says: Nov 1, 2011 3:53 PM

    Chad can’t catch passes if he’s not in the game. At least, he’s keeping his mouth shut about it.

  22. geniusfan says: Nov 1, 2011 3:55 PM

    Didn’t the Patriots win three Super Bowls with Troy Brown, David Patten, David Givens, and Deion Branch?

    The need for a deep threat is incredibly overrated the Patriots offense is 10x better now than it was in 2001, 2003, and 2004.

    The defense is what has taken a tremendous step back they need to step up if that’s even possible for them.

    The offense just needs to execute better. They can beat press man what the heck do you think the Jets play? They’ve had success before against it and they will again.

    Tom Brady had the ball for twenty minutes and put up 17 points if he had it for ten more the Patriots would have had a much better chance at winning the game.

  23. thefiesty1 says: Nov 1, 2011 4:01 PM

    The first thing he needs to do is change his name back to Johnson. Ridiculous!

  24. giselleisasucubus says: Nov 1, 2011 4:02 PM

    bozosforall- yeah, you really have a clue what you are talking about. Get a clue. I will take my 5-2 Pats w/a few issues over any other team, besides Green Bay. BTW- The Pats did have down years from 88-92, but since Parcells & Kraft took over in 93, the Patriots have the highest winning % in the NFL. Look it up if you think I am wrong. They also played in the Super Bowl in 96. So lets add this up- Since 1985, 6 Super Bowls played in, 3-3 record, 7 AFC Title Games, 6-1. Yeah, I am sure the Patriots are done because they have issues w/ a deep threat. If this team ever plays defense, it is over in the AFC.

  25. expatpatfan says: Nov 1, 2011 4:10 PM

    It’s terrible to have the best record in the AFC and be favored in every single game through nine weeks. I remember how terrible Tom Brady is, like when he almost went to the Super Bowl in 2007 when Reche Caldwell and Jabbar Gaffney were fighting for the #1WR spot.

    It’s week 8 and obviously time to write the Pats’ eulogy.

  26. bobhk says: Nov 1, 2011 4:15 PM

    Who’s else are starting WR for Pats (other than Welker)?

  27. oruacat2 says: Nov 1, 2011 4:18 PM

    I wouldn’t call Chad Johnson a bad receiver and I think he can contribute somewhere – but not on a team without a legitimate vertical passing game, because HE is NOT that deep-threat WR.

    We saw it in Cincinnati over the last couple of years when our only deep threat was Chris Henry, and he infamously wasn’t even playing most of the time. Housh ran the over-the-middle routes and #85 ran the intermediate routes – mostly outs. With no deep threat to stretch the field were became one-dimensional. I see that happening to the Patriot’s offense now, too. Welker and Brady are so good that they’ve disguised that glaring deficiency for longer than expected, but the secret is out.

  28. ianwhetstone says: Nov 1, 2011 4:23 PM

    “I remember how terrible Tom Brady is, like when he almost went to the Super Bowl in 2007 when Reche Caldwell and Jabbar Gaffney were fighting for the #1WR spot.”

    I get your point, but wasn’t 2007 the year that Moss came on board, and they broke a bunch of records?

  29. mjzaky says: Nov 1, 2011 4:34 PM

    All of this= Why you don’t cut Brandon Tate.

  30. damko12 says: Nov 1, 2011 4:39 PM

    ONE CLAP!

  31. melikefootball says: Nov 1, 2011 4:41 PM

    Ah the NFL two weeks ago the Pats were the elite unstopable team. They lose a game where their receivers did not do so much and now they are in deep trouble. OCHO has not done anything all year and now they want him to be the star. Maybe on the radio station!

  32. knightringonow says: Nov 1, 2011 5:00 PM

    captainwisdom8888 says:
    Nov 1, 2011 3:26 PM
    Tom Brady is capable of turning any receiver into a household name, a pro-bowler even. If Chad can’t get it done with one of the best QBs that has ever graced the game of football…what can we honestly expect from him playing for anyone else?

    Brady hasn’t win much if anything lately, has he? “Tuck Rule” game + filming the other teams final run-through, what’s he got? I’ll tell you what he’s got: one ring and a bastard child. Oh yeah, he’s perfect.

  33. CKL says: Nov 1, 2011 5:22 PM

    There is a Steelers fan who is on the Pats board I frequent who has said forever that Chad doesn’t have much success vs Pitt and that was before the Pats got him I think. Marshall Faulk insists that Chad could have beaten that press coverage though. I think the only long pass I saw to him on Sunday was an overthrow by TB though.

    Pitt’s gameplan was brilliant though and I don’t think that many other teams have the personnel to do it. Pats couldn’t really use their run game because they didn’t have enough time on the field to try to sustain drives either. Problem is, most of the playoff caliber teams DO have the personnel to execute that gameplan so until the Pats start at least forcing more turnovers on defense to give the O a few more possessions (like last year) they don’t have much of a shot to win payoff games again until the defense gets a bit better (they are good in RZ but still so bad on third down that the only way around it is to make turnovers).

  34. lightofkolob says: Nov 1, 2011 5:31 PM

    I love the Patriots but they traded their deep threat away last year because they didn’t want to pay him. The Moss and Seymore moves have really hurt the Patriots….
    They can put up big numbers against bad teams all they want, but you can’t win a super bowl throwing deep passes to tight ends.

  35. yankeesjetsknicksrangers says: Nov 1, 2011 6:17 PM

    When Brady was walking off the field after being stripped Sunday there was Ocho on the sideline watching with his helmet off.

    Love thinking back to what has become the normal reaction of the Pat fans when they signed him, where are all he B.B. is a genius comments now???

    Brady’s window is closing and you have no deep threat, but look on the bright side you guys got lots of middle round draft picks.

  36. getweird4u says: Nov 1, 2011 6:30 PM

    To us bengal fans this was plainly obvious his playing days are OVER!

  37. tedmurph says: Nov 1, 2011 6:39 PM

    lightofkolob says: Nov 1, 2011 5:31 PM

    It wasn’t about paying Moss, it was about Moss trying to dictate to the Pats to extend him, or else he’d do his usual quit job. Instead of letting it fester, as other teams have done, they cut his butt. How’d that work out for Minn(Childress fired, thanks for Mallet) and Tenn? He’d crawl to NE for the minimum if Pats called him.

    Seymour trade was good for both teams. Pats had to pay Brady, Wilfork, Mankins and Sey. They chose the other 3. Sey’s a good player, but I believe they still get their butts kicked last 2 yrs in the playoffs even if they had him. I also think he’s more valuable to Oak than he would be for the Pats. On the feild, he’s just been ok. Solder looks like a player.

  38. tedmurph says: Nov 1, 2011 6:50 PM

    yankeesjetsknicksrangers says: Nov 1, 2011 6:17

    No one said BB was a genius for picking up Ocho, just that is was worth a shot. It was. Now we all see it was a mistake. Pats problems are not on offense.

    Don’t know if Brady’s window is closing or not. Seems to me he’s as good as he ever was, if not better. Think Sanchez’s window will ever open?

    Pats don’t have a lot of mid-rnd picks next yr, just 2 1rsts and 2 2nds. The Jets traded away most of their picks the last few yrs, too bad they didn’t hit on the ones they kept. Gholston, Ducasse, Sanchez, Greene. Nice. Hopefully they’ll keep next yrs pick. Should be in the high teens.

  39. lexnekst says: Nov 1, 2011 7:19 PM

    Chad was a case of big fish in a small pond. Being a slightly above mediocre receiver on a below average Bengals team- he actually started believing his own hype. Now back to reality on a winnig team, in a big market you can’t hide.

  40. rexismybff says: Nov 1, 2011 7:21 PM

    $5.75 million for #85’s services this year. Quite a bargain for BB! He’s going to get paid about $1 million per catch this year at this rate.

  41. descendency says: Nov 1, 2011 7:24 PM

    I bet the Jets, Bills, and Dolphins fans are glad the Patriots dynasty is over. It’s about time someone else won some division titles other than the Tom Brady led Patriots. . .

    I mean, clearly that 1 division title in 2002 signals the end of the Patriots in 2011.

    Bill Belichick+Tom Brady: The only coach and QB combo in NFL history to pilot the Titanic to 4 AFC Championships, 3 Super Bowls appearances, and 2 Super Bowl wins.

    See you next year. . .

  42. tedmurph says: Nov 1, 2011 7:30 PM

    mjzaky says:Nov 1, 2011 4:34 PM

    All of this= Why you don’t cut Brandon Tate.
    ———————————————————-
    Tate has 0 catches for Cincy. Pats have enough punt returners, although they may have one less in a few days.

  43. frankiefiveangels says: Nov 1, 2011 8:01 PM

    The bad news is that they also traded 2 draft picks to the Bengals for this stiff. The good news is that Bill “Matt Millen” Belichick would have picked up 2 more stiffs who can’t play so losing the picks doesn’t matter.

  44. 6ball says: Nov 1, 2011 8:05 PM

    .

    @rexismybff

    ” at this rate he’ll get paid a million dollars per catch”

    That’s value compared to Vernon Gholsten and his zero career sacks.

    .

  45. cmgww says: Nov 1, 2011 8:15 PM

    Pats fans, quit spouting out your stats. We all know your team won the Super Bowl, 7 YEARS AGO. Since the 07 loss the Pats haven’t done crap. Why you say? b/c Bill B. and staff didn’t address (successfully) the aging defense (Bruschi, Vrabel, Harrison, Law, etc..). They won those SBs with dominant defenses, not high powered offenses. That’s why they get booted from the playoffs, after regular season success. It’s similar to the Colts…The only season they won the SB was when their defense turned on the switch and dominated w/ Bob Sanders returning…The year they lost the Super Bowl to the Saints, they also had a strong defense (8th in points allowed) but effectively lost Dwight Freeney (he played but was largely ineffective b/c of an ankle injury, esp after the long halftime), thus limiting their effectiveness. Coyer for some reason went to a soft zone in the 2nd half and Brees picked them apart. Now with Manning out, the Colts brass has to face the fact that Peyton covered up a LOT of flaws. That’s what’s happening to some extent in New England. Brady can’t do it without having 5 seconds to throw, and if pressured he goes from great to average (see Jets playoff game last season). And without a decent D, the Pats won’t make it far in the playoffs.

  46. rajbais says: Nov 1, 2011 9:39 PM

    Chad Uh-oh Spaghettios!!!!

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