Comments on: Phil Simms not sold on Andrew Luck

By: akulabug

akulabug — Tue, 08 Nov 2011 12:56:04 +0000

I don’t know how this kid will be in the NFL. And guess what? Nobody else does either. On the surface he is the best one coming out but what does that mean? The proof is still in the pudding.

I would rather get crapped on for drafting him as a bust than passing on the next Brady or Manning.

By: couldntthinkofaname

couldntthinkofaname — Sun, 06 Nov 2011 04:26:43 +0000

schrutebeetfarms says: Nov 2, 2011 1:50 PM

Simms is also not sold on the internet yet either.
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I’m sold on this comment. LOL Awesome!

By: tatum064

tatum064 — Sat, 05 Nov 2011 02:50:38 +0000

brianinwv says:
Nov 2, 2011 2:13 PM
I think the hype is a bit much as well. Is Luck really that far ahead of previous #1s Newton, Bradford and Stafford?

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Newton – different style of QB, but at a higher level of competition in the SEC

Bradford – too brittle, and coordinator has changed. career now on holding pattern with no receivers.

Stafford – stronger arm than Luck, but inconsistent with shorter-to-intermediate throws, and missed an awful lot of games.

Luck may be a better game manager type. He’d be perfect in that he could make the winning plays that Joe Flacco hasnt. I’d put him just above him but below Rothlisberger, Rodgers, Brady.

Luck is a winner, but a game manager…not a shoulder RPG type. Would be best suited to a good defensive team, with a strong running game. – really best fits with Miami, if they could find a running game….and er a defense.

By: tatum064

tatum064 — Sat, 05 Nov 2011 02:35:24 +0000

Thats ok,Phil. They weren’t sold on you when you came out of Moorehead State. Nobody , but the serious draftniks never heard of you, either.

By: guypatsfan

guypatsfan — Fri, 04 Nov 2011 15:54:42 +0000

BTW you can have the last word if you want. But don’t hold your breath, I won’t be coming back to see if you’ve written anything.

Have a nice day, dearie!

By: tnrn

tnrn — Fri, 04 Nov 2011 12:28:41 +0000

guypatsfan—Both of your posts are still showing honey. Buy the way I cannot have “numbnutz”, I am a female. You should really invest in a spell checker. By the way, I do have an IQ of 136 which is pretty close to the genius level. I graduated with honors when I finished both my Associates and Bachelor’s, made the Dean Lists each semester, and graduated Magna Cum Laude. I am currently working on my Masters. So, according to some I am a genius. Is that the problem you have with me, a female who does seem to know a little about football? Or is the issue being a female who has an opinion? You decide. Either way you need to actually look at the board before you go spouting off about things you obviously know nothing about darling. Either way, you are still welcome to Simms and his darling little offspring since as you sooo eloquently put it they are both numbnutz, just as you are!

By: guypatsfan

guypatsfan — Fri, 04 Nov 2011 04:41:04 +0000

tnrn – nice going, numbnutz. Deleted both my posts. You must be a real rocket scientist!

By: tnrn

tnrn — Thu, 03 Nov 2011 14:52:35 +0000

guypatsfan—Good for him. So does Peyton! How about you take his kid! He can take over when Brady is ready to retire since you seem to think is he so awesome and Daddy can be he his coach! It would be like Beavis and Butthead taking over New England!

By: guypatsfan

guypatsfan — Thu, 03 Nov 2011 14:21:35 +0000

tnrn – Simms has a Super Bowl ring, you don’t. Get over it.

By: falstaffsmind

falstaffsmind — Thu, 03 Nov 2011 13:58:23 +0000

You could say the same thing about Tom Brady.

By: tnrn

tnrn — Thu, 03 Nov 2011 12:36:01 +0000

The real issue that Phil Simms has with Andrew Luck is the fact that the young man makes his own kids like what they are: pathetic. I live in Knoxville. We would gladly return his son to him ANYTIME! The boy belongs on a highschool field, not a NCAA field. I am not even sure he could compete with some of the highschools around he at that. Anytime you see that jersey running on the field you do one of two things, change the channel or turn off the TV. Obviously none of the Simms family have any DNA for football like the Manning’s. Peyton was the BEST QB that TN EVER had. Andrew Luck may not be the next Peyton Manning. However, the young man can play football. He also has the mobility that Peyton does not. I am a huge fan of the Colts, Giants, and Green Bay. Yes, Peyton can pick you apart in many ways. If you stop his running game, fine he will find another way. If you double his receivers, fine he will find another way. IF Luck goes to Indy (please, please, please…) then that is exactly what he will learn. With his ability to be mobile, he will be dangerous when he is handed that team. However, Simms is a moron. He was against Rodgers coming out? Has anyone actually watched Rodgers throw a ball? The man has been a monster since he came out of the shadow of Farve and he is MOBILE! Green Bay will be the Super Bowl champs this year again. Simms is JEALOUS! Get over is Simms, you could not play, your offspring cannot play. Deal with it. Maybe they will create a special place for you in the Hall of Fame for most idiotic quotes.

By: thevinnyt

thevinnyt — Thu, 03 Nov 2011 08:08:39 +0000

I said the very same thing to my son on Saturday night after watching the whole second half. I said Luck is the real deal, BUT, that he does not seem to have that strong of an arm. At least I’ve not seen it yet. He did a lot of soft throws.

What made me come to that conclusion was when I started comparing him to what I remember seeing about John Elway when he played at Stanford. My God, he had that incredible arm and could throw rockets. You never forget seeing something like that. I did not see anything even close to that arm strength with Andrew Luck.

That said, Joe Montana was one of the best ever and Luck could probably out throw him now quite a bit. But QB’s as accurate as Montana (or as Ken Stabler was) are just very rare and have incredible and amazing touch on their passes.

Luck does not have that either. He reminds me more of a better and more polished Tim Tebow right now. (yes running for cover)…

Vinny

By: nedstarksbastard

nedstarksbastard — Thu, 03 Nov 2011 06:20:17 +0000

That’s because he stills has one kid left in college….

By: tednguyen73

tednguyen73 — Thu, 03 Nov 2011 04:01:19 +0000

I meant, Tim Tebow CAN’T seem to make a simple throw to a wide open receiver

By: tednguyen73

tednguyen73 — Thu, 03 Nov 2011 03:59:33 +0000

Simms has a point. I don’t pay much attention to college ball since maybe <5% make it to the NFL but I decided to watch the USC/Stanford game and was not impressed with the hoopla of Luck.

Yes, he has poise but Simms is correct, there are some throws where he doesn't rip the ball across the field and in the NFL, your window of opportunity is very small.
This is not novel news, the knock on Luck is that he doesn't have a cannon of an arm. Neither does Brady but I haven't seen the pinpoint accuracy that so many have fallen gaga over Luck.

All this talk reminds me of the infatuation with Ryan Leaf and J. Russell and look what has happened to them. Yes, I know character plays a lot but see Tim Tebow and he is Mr. Clean but can seem to make a throw to a wide open receiver.

By: goldrush36

goldrush36 — Thu, 03 Nov 2011 03:47:43 +0000

Derty Ernie says: Nov 2, 2011 7:55 PM

Luck is not a franchise QB no matter how many people are pumping him. He isn’t Cam Newton, 6 5 confident and a runner.
LUck can’t run two feet without tripping and his passing is only accurate when he has a loooooot of time. Not getting that in the NFL.

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HAHAHA OMFG put the pipe down

By: bullethead527

bullethead527 — Thu, 03 Nov 2011 01:42:43 +0000

Derty Ernie says: yeah he still wears a wrist band with the plays on it, how long has he played for Stanford, maybe its a little different than Harbaugh’s playbook IDK, but Cam interviews make him seem to be unintelligent also, maybe they are camera shy, but look at Cam, he dont wear a wrist band and he is a rookie QB, that everyone says he wouldnt be smart enough to play the nfl QB, let him play at least 4-8 games before you praise or criticize him on the NFL standards….

By: Derty Ernie

Derty Ernie — Wed, 02 Nov 2011 23:55:16 +0000

By: bullethead527

bullethead527 — Wed, 02 Nov 2011 23:55:04 +0000

I watched a couple of Luck’s games and only seen a few deep ball hits, but Luck is accurate as hell, and can throw on the run, I dont think he is the next Manning, but i do think he will be a good QB if he goes to a team like Cam went to, example- Cam has 3 pro bowl O line, most under rated O line IMO in the league, without them Cam will be the bust ppl say he was going to be, also we got a good RB tandem, and TE’s with Steve Smith. If Luck goes to a team with a running game, I think he will be great, if he goes to a team that has no supporting everyone will call him a bust, lets say he goes to Miami, no running game, okay oline and only one good WR, he might struggle and be throw to the wolves, he goes to Colts, no running game, good oline and will be Manning back up, or at least will be tutored by Manning on the daily, cuz if Manning retires, he will probally be the 1st player to retire and get a HC job the same year… Stanford runs the ball better than most colleges, im talking pro style no trick plays just run the rock offense, and luck passes a lot against 8 in box defenses, mainly, but saying he has no arm strength and cant zip it in, wow, already articles on Luck sucking, and he hasnt even had a combine or pro day…….

By: Derty Ernie

Derty Ernie — Wed, 02 Nov 2011 23:51:49 +0000

My issue after hearing him do an interview is he isn’t smart enough to put two words together to make a sentence. He won’t be able to pass the wonderlich or learn the complicated NFL playbooks. Teams in know won’t jump on him.
He will not be the first pick.

By: therandomsportsguy

therandomsportsguy — Wed, 02 Nov 2011 23:44:41 +0000

I am thinking that Phil Simms is just a little bit jealous. He’s been lashing out at everyone playing QB today it seems. When he goes at guys like Tebow, it’s warranted, but when he goes after guys that can actually PLAY, he’s just whining.

Most have called Luck the best QB overall since Peyton Manning and maybe even John Elway. It just doesn’t sit well with him that soon he will be a footnote to football history, even with the ring he has.

By: kowboydmac

kowboydmac — Wed, 02 Nov 2011 23:41:33 +0000

College players and hype haven’t fared well (see; Bush, Reggie.)

In that regard, I guess Simms missed last years VT vs Stanford bowl game.

I saw a few “NFL” throws, as did millions.

That being said, he could be a Marino. All world talent and no rings to show for it.

Personally, I think Luck has too much tenacity and the ability to shrug off the media hype; all traits I’ve seen from Super Bowl quarterbacks. He’s just displayed them at a young age.

With the fall of Manning and Brady (Age/injury) I see a rise of newcomers (Dalton/Ponder/Newton) to compliment the hybrid stars (Brees/Rodgers/Roethlisberger)

Long live football!

By: muckhappy

muckhappy — Wed, 02 Nov 2011 22:50:08 +0000

I dont think it is realistic to say with any certainty that a particular college player’s success will translate to the NFL level especially at QB. Past draft history has shown dozens of can’t miss prospects that never panned out. Jamarcus russell, ryan leaf, heath schuler just to name a few qbs. You also have to consider what type of situation Luck will be going to. Obviously the team drafting first has a lot of needs, but can he be protected, or is he going to get killed playing behind a bad line like david carr and joey harrington. Not saying those 2 were of the same caliber coming out of college, but they were both highly thought of when drafted. Would we still be giving aaron rodgers the same praise if he were drafted by sf. I don’t know. I am a big Luck fan, but only time will tell.

By: 4ever19

4ever19 — Wed, 02 Nov 2011 22:48:17 +0000

As a Colts fan, I am not 100% sold on Luck being the savior. You can’t be. Look how many “sure thing” QBs haven’t been. But, I don’t remember Peyton having a high hard one either. His arm is NFL caliber, but not Steve McNair-Brett Favre caliber. Still (except for the playoffs), he got by.

By: droopyyydog1

droopyyydog1 — Wed, 02 Nov 2011 22:40:54 +0000

Boy that Jamarus Russell had a cannon for an arm and look how he is playi….oh thats right. Drew Brees, Philip Rivers and even Alex Smith don’t have big arms but seem to get by okay.

By: kinggw

kinggw — Wed, 02 Nov 2011 22:08:47 +0000

I think Simms is right on. Luck is grossly overrated, which isnt to say he wont be good or serviceable at the next level. However its a reach to call him the best qb prospect since Elway.

Simms is concerned about Luck being able to make all the throws, I would be concerned about him playing against inferior competion. Save for V-tech and Oregon last year, what quality team has he played against?

By: simonssays11

simonssays11 — Wed, 02 Nov 2011 22:03:11 +0000

Phil Simms is confusing his own abilities with that of Luck. Luck is far more talented than a Simms or Simms offspring ever was…or is. Luck will prove him wrong..The NFL ball will fly much better for Luck than it ever did for Simms, et al…

By: jmat40

jmat40 — Wed, 02 Nov 2011 22:02:12 +0000

Simms is a turd. After listening to him during the Steelers vs. Patriots game I’ll never take anything he says seriously again about anyone.
Little to NO credibility.

By: radrntn

radrntn — Wed, 02 Nov 2011 21:54:59 +0000

I wonder if Phil Simms thinks Steve Young was any good. Of all pastQb’s that is who Luck resembles the most, except bigger, but stats are similiar.

By: zbigern

zbigern — Wed, 02 Nov 2011 21:54:09 +0000

Yeah too much hype on the kid. Lets say he goes to Miami…Miami suck godzilla balls and has no talent outside of Brandon Marshall & Jake Long on offense. Recipe for disaster. Brady was a 6 or 7rd diamond in the rough. Favre a 3rd rounder.Romo undrafted…Fitzpatrick for the Bills…the list continues…being a successful player in the NFL requires a good schematic fit and basically nothing else…they all have talent knuckleheadz…too much hype&too much pressure for a KID.