Comments on: Shaun King calls Jon Gruden “inherently dishonest”

By: gor3hound

gor3hound — Thu, 03 Nov 2011 03:13:00 +0000

Freedoginit, please don’t say We in Tampa, speak for yourself, believe me, you are in the minority here.

By: freedoginit

freedoginit — Thu, 03 Nov 2011 00:12:18 +0000

To Coach G, we in Tampa believe in you and I for one respect you for being a community guy. I have been to several of his autograph sessions and he goes out of his way to been friendly and nice to his fans. Thanks again Coach for signing my Playboy and if you remember me telling your wife, I really do get the magazine for the articles. HAHAHAHA.

By: freedoginit

freedoginit — Thu, 03 Nov 2011 00:08:25 +0000

Mr. King has NO ROOM TO TALK. Call the different poker rooms in the TAMPA BAY area and see for yourself how many poker rooms he has been trespassed from. The guy is a complete A-HOLE and has no business throwing stones. HE SUCKed as a QB and is lucky to have been drafted in the first place.

By: corndogluv

corndogluv — Wed, 02 Nov 2011 23:02:16 +0000

Will always love you chucky thanks for the super bowl dungy couldn’t bring. I believe he was good enough to get the raiders to the super bowl a year after he left. I think he would make a great coach just dont let him pick the personnel.

By: contract

contract — Wed, 02 Nov 2011 22:59:03 +0000

“King also hinted that Gruden’s style that simply won’t work at the NFL level for anyone other than Bill Belichick.”

Gruden didn’t win a Super Bowl?

By: blountforce

blountforce — Wed, 02 Nov 2011 22:30:26 +0000

Before everyone bashing Shaun King as being a disgruntled no-name ex player, more credible players like Keenan McCardell and Warren Sapp have confirmed what he professes.

I loved Gruden when he got here, loved him even more when he left!!!

Thank God for Raheeminik!!!!

By: commandercornpone

commandercornpone — Wed, 02 Nov 2011 21:42:25 +0000

and peyton let tony have credit for winning an sb with peyton’s team.

tony’s handpicked replacement cant coach at all.

tis all relative.

By: maddogwhite

maddogwhite — Wed, 02 Nov 2011 17:29:19 +0000

Why would anyone listen to a washed-up, never-has-been QB like Shaun King. He was lucky to get his 15 minutes of fame. Now get lost.

By: starderup

starderup — Wed, 02 Nov 2011 17:19:58 +0000

Gruden’s single claim to fame is that he won with Tony Dungy’s team, against a team he had just left. Hardly a real game changer.
That, and he forced the NFL to change the rules disallowing draft picks to be traded in exchange for a coach.

By: usetabe

usetabe — Wed, 02 Nov 2011 17:18:05 +0000

I’ve heard Jeff Garcia hinting at this. I think he held it in, because he was hopeful of continuing his career. Now that it’s over for Jeff, I would like to hear him come out and comment on his relationship with Gruden. Could be fun.

By: cliffordc05

cliffordc05 — Wed, 02 Nov 2011 16:04:44 +0000

Again, Keyshawn and King are not the best sources.

This kind of reminds me of the criticism of Pete Caroll by Taylor Mays when the Seahawks passed on Mays in the draft.

By: tformation

tformation — Wed, 02 Nov 2011 15:35:19 +0000

Yeah, Keyshawn & Shawn King have got some axes to grind against Chucky. There might be some kernels of truth in what they’re saying, but I’m not going to pick through the feces they’re talking to find them…

By: cardmagnet

cardmagnet — Wed, 02 Nov 2011 15:22:59 +0000

Warren Sapp also spoke out of Gruden’s knack for not telling the truth when Gruden informed the University of Miami that he wanted the head coaching job, causing them to release Randy Shannon earlier than they had planned. Gruden then wanted nothing to do with the job.

By: christopher525

christopher525 — Wed, 02 Nov 2011 15:07:56 +0000

Until someone like Derrick Brooks calls Gruden out, I’ll just pass the comments by. Shaun King is a failed attempt at a franchise QB, and Keyshawn is a diva who got upset when he realized he was no longer a star.

By: steelersandladyboysfan

steelersandladyboysfan — Wed, 02 Nov 2011 15:05:54 +0000

Sounds like a perfect fit for Ohio State.

By: rpiotr01

rpiotr01 — Wed, 02 Nov 2011 14:19:08 +0000

Aaron Rodgers agrees with King.

By: odessabucs

odessabucs — Wed, 02 Nov 2011 14:18:49 +0000

Shaun King who is no longer at ESPN, is trying to make it as a sports talk host in Tampa. It is a market dominated by Steve Duemig. Duemig is very knowledgeable and I am a fan and regular listener. Duemig does have one thing about him which does not serve him well. He has an obsessive, dysfunctional hate for Gruden. Something must have happened between the two beyond what players have told him. So perhaps King is trying to out hate Duemig to get listeners. Meanwhile, Gruden smiles all the way to the bank with his last $5 million this year from the Bucs contract and his MNF check speculated to be in the $4 million range.

By: Dirty D Fo

Dirty D Fo — Wed, 02 Nov 2011 14:18:36 +0000

Shaun King was not a has been. It was a never was. Hope those 4 years in the league did you well.. I think he is jealous of the fact that Gruden is on ESPN and he is some local radio guy.. Trying to bring up his national profile.

By: medtxpack

medtxpack — Wed, 02 Nov 2011 14:10:04 +0000

well Shaun you were an inherently bad QB…

By: rexranius

rexranius — Wed, 02 Nov 2011 14:00:33 +0000

(That said, the inability of a young quarterback to play like the Hall of Famer that Gruden would have been if he had only been several inches taller likely would make Gruden’s head explode.)

That sentence made my head explode.

By: Raider-in-PA

Raider-in-PA — Wed, 02 Nov 2011 13:55:57 +0000

CHUCKY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By: j0esixpack

j0esixpack — Wed, 02 Nov 2011 13:55:10 +0000

whynotusecommonsense says: I’m sure that this is a trait of many NFL coaches. You tell a player something in hopes that he performs up to those expectations. You want your players to have confidence.

That’s what Rex Ryan does. In the short term, telling players they’re Super Bowl caliber does raise confidence and results in wins.

After two years of hearing that the players are beginning to have less confidence in the coach that had the false confidence in them.

Long term that’s a good way for a coach to get fired.

By: orthomarine

orthomarine — Wed, 02 Nov 2011 13:54:16 +0000

Well lets see, I journey man/diva has been WR says something negative about a coach that did not take his crap and then the backup QB who was his only friend in Tampa agreed with him….

I’m sure Gruden in not crying at home…Like always Keyshawn and King, stop crying about your lack of talent and projecting your inabilities on others……

By: steelerdynasty2010

steelerdynasty2010 — Wed, 02 Nov 2011 13:54:10 +0000

@muselover:
um, well, yes, he should tell him exactly that. why wouldnt he? what does he really have to gain by lying to them?
if a pro isnt good enough to start/play, then tell him, give him an opportunity to work on it and improve. otherwise, he will think what he’s doing is good enough and he will never improve, thus keeping/making him useless. it’s called coaching. it’s also called integrity and when you’re charged with leading grown men, having a little of it can’t hurt.

By: vomitingliberals

vomitingliberals — Wed, 02 Nov 2011 13:53:32 +0000

I live in Tampa, born and raised here. I am very familiar with the folks that cover the Buccaneers for a living and even a few of the men who have actually put on the pads for the franchise over the years, and I can tell you that Shaun King is expressing what many down here believe about Jon Gruden.

The national media loves the guy, but many who have been around him here call him a world class BSer. They call him deceitful and I’ve even heard cowardly based on the way he has handled certain players and their situations. I don’t know him personally, so I have no experience in this regard, but I do know there quite a few people who don’t respect his approach to coaching men.

Then again, Shaun King was known for being lazy and hanging out at the Blue Martini a bit too often during the season. So he’s a fine one to talk.

By: peytonwantsaflag

peytonwantsaflag — Wed, 02 Nov 2011 13:51:29 +0000

“Meanwhile, and in all fairness to Gruden, we’ll wait for one or more of his former players to publicly declare that Gruden is inherently honest.”
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Also let’s make sure those players aren’t disgruntled backups or lazy prima donnas.

By: ronswansonsdinner

ronswansonsdinner — Wed, 02 Nov 2011 13:48:45 +0000

Shaun King almost lead the Bucs to the Super Bowl if it weren’t for the worst call ever in the playoffs. Bert Emanuel made that catch!

By: phinfan

phinfan — Wed, 02 Nov 2011 13:45:44 +0000

PeRfect. Turns out Stephen Ross is the same way! Birds of a feather…

By: comeonnowguys

comeonnowguys — Wed, 02 Nov 2011 13:40:08 +0000

Now THIS guy… THIS guy may be the greatest liar I’ve ever seen.

From start to finish, his approach to lying is great, the mechanics of his speech while lying is great, and, honestly guys, what more could you ask for in a liar? Top to bottom, he’s just the best.

By: smarterthantheaveragebearfan

smarterthantheaveragebearfan — Wed, 02 Nov 2011 13:39:56 +0000

I don’t think this is a shock to anyone. Gruden has a style that is tailor made for a quick turnaround situation.

He is not suited to be anywhere a long time. It’s not a good thing or a bad thing. It is what it is-and there are many places that could use that approach.