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Clay Matthews doesn’t fault refs who make mistakes

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Packers linebacker Clay Matthews was flagged for a bogus roughing the passer penalty against the Vikings, but he’s not angry about it.

Asked on the Scott Van Pelt Show whether he’s upset with the referee who threw the flag on that, Matthews said it was just an honest mistake.

“I asked the ref what he called me on,” Matthews said. “He said I used the top of my helmet to launch into him. And I can see where he wouldn’t be able to see it from the correct angle, so it’s understandable. . . . It comes down to a split-second decision and you can’t fault the referee for that.”

That’s a gracious response from Matthews, but I don’t agree with it: It’s not understandable for a referee to throw a flag if he didn’t see a hit from the correct angle. If the ref didn’t see a penalty, he shouldn’t have called a penalty. And on the play in question (pictured here), Matthews made a textbook example of a legal hit and got flagged for it anyway. You can fault the referee for that.

It was fortunate for Matthews that the NFL reviewed the tape of the penalty, realized that it never should have been called, and decided not to fine him. But Matthews says he doesn’t want roughing the passer to become a reviewable penalty during games, because he doesn’t want the game to be slowed down by referees reviewing those replays.

“I don’t see it moving forward to review penalties with regard to late hits or illegal hits simply because it takes a little away from the game,” Matthews said. “Referees are supposed to make judgment calls.”

And even when the referee’s judgment is wrong, Matthews isn’t going to make a big deal out of it.

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73 Responses to “Clay Matthews doesn’t fault refs who make mistakes”
  1. 13whysoserious says: Nov 4, 2011 3:03 PM

    Clay doesn’t need to worry, big brother is always watching. Reviews real time or not.

  2. mikebyrne1502 says: Nov 4, 2011 3:05 PM

    I don’t think they need to go into replay for this matter, but they should hire more refs or some booth refs with the current pager system they have can easily review the hit immediatly after it happens and page yes or no when the refs are discussing what “ONE”guy saw. Also I think all unnecessary roughness penalties if not blantant need to be seen by more than one ref.

  3. sippindasyzurp says: Nov 4, 2011 3:05 PM

    A classy remark, coming from a player on the classiest organization in football.

  4. marvsleezy says: Nov 4, 2011 3:06 PM

    The referees are worse this year than ever before, are the games fixed?

  5. The Phantom Stranger says: Nov 4, 2011 3:06 PM

    Last year, Matthews would have flown into a rage over this incident. This year, he’s cool and calm. Just sayin’.

  6. realitypolice says: Nov 4, 2011 3:10 PM

    I am pretty sure that Clay Matthews knows that referee is at fault for making a terrible call that he shouldn’t have made.

    But what good does it do to say that publicly? It’s not going to change anything, and chances are that he is going to play in another game involving the same ref in the near future.

    Refs don’t like being singled out and they have long memories. On the other hand, since Matthews went out of his way to give this ref a break, maybe he gets a break in return on a questionable call in the future.

  7. smoothjimmyapollo says: Nov 4, 2011 3:16 PM

    “Last year, Matthews would have flown into a rage over this incident. This year, he’s cool and calm. Just sayin’.”

    Name one time Matthews flipped out over anything last year?

  8. kibawib says: Nov 4, 2011 3:18 PM

    sippindasyzurp–”A classy remark, coming from a player on the classiest organization in football.”
    __________________________________

    No doubt about that–just look at those classy Packer fans!

    “Green Bay police arrested four people and ejected three others Sunday during a mild day at Lambeau Field as the Green Bay Packers claimed a 49-23 win against the Denver Broncos. … It was the fewest number of ejections since at least the 2004 season, according to Green Bay Press-Gazette records. Four people were also arrested during the Packers’ 20-19 preseason win against the Kansas City Chiefs on Sept. 1. … Two people were arrested on suspicion of unlawful conduct at a public event and another person is suspected of possessing marijuana. ”

    Stay classy Wisconsin!

  9. shaggytoodle says: Nov 4, 2011 3:18 PM

    That was one of the worst calls I have seen in a while.

    I have to give GB some credit on remaing level headed whether it be a terrible call like this, or getting kicked in the junk. They keep thier cool

  10. jessethegreat says: Nov 4, 2011 3:20 PM

    Winners find a way to win. Losers are the ones that complain about the one that got away or the bad calls. Coach Mccarthy has his guys expecting bad calls. Coach Mccarthy still expects them to win against the refs and the opponents. FEAR THE CHEESE!

  11. kibawib says: Nov 4, 2011 3:22 PM

    Well at least Clay isn’t blaming the officials for the fact he ranks 39th this year in sacks, with a total of 3 for the season. Oh but wait, I forgot, he’s been suffering from a ‘lingering quad injury’ all season. Well I sure hope those HGH negotations are resolved quickly. No doubt Clay’s hammy will feel much better once the testing is pushed to 2012 (as the NFLPA intends). My bad.

  12. 7ransponder says: Nov 4, 2011 3:23 PM

    sippindasyzurp says:
    Nov 4, 2011 3:05 PM
    A classy remark, coming from a player on the classiest organization in football.

    —————–

    I hope you know how to swim, because you’re drowning in hubris there. Just thought you should know.

  13. rbirving says: Nov 4, 2011 3:24 PM

    Mathews has way too much class to be a Packer. It’s just not right.

    I don’t have a problem with refs missing an occassional call, I do have a problem with part time refs. It should be a full time job and fully trained to handled the speed of the game.

  14. orangeflh says: Nov 4, 2011 3:24 PM

    The Phantom Stranger says:
    Nov 4, 2011 3:06 PM
    Last year, Matthews would have flown into a rage over this incident. This year, he’s cool and calm. Just sayin’.
    ———————————-

    Last year, The Phantom Stranger would have made some kind of asshat type remark about this. This year, he still made an asshat type remark. What does this tell us?

  15. steviaquinn says: Nov 4, 2011 3:25 PM

    I’m sure his feeling would have been different if the Packers lost the game

  16. packfaninchitown says: Nov 4, 2011 3:25 PM

    Spoken like a true champion player from a true champion team.

    Repeat Baby…Lombardi squared…

  17. captaintriumph says: Nov 4, 2011 3:27 PM

    Sure it was a lousy call. I’ve always wished that refs would swallow their whistles instead of making bogus calls, even if it means missing some calls. Missing a call is far better than making a wrong call IMO. That being said, what’s the big deal??? Meaningless game. Didn’t affect outcome. So who cares. It’s not like 2 years ago when the Vikings literally got cheated out of the Super Bowl.

  18. smoothjimmyapollo says: Nov 4, 2011 3:36 PM

    “Well at least Clay isn’t blaming the officials for the fact he ranks 39th this year in sacks, with a total of 3 for the season”

    Why should he? Through their first 7 games, he led the league with 31 combined QB hits and pressures. His job is to disrupt the quarterback on passing plays.

    Watch, I can do this too. In 2010, Jared Allen had 1 sack through the first 7 games. He finished the season with 11 sacks. What is it, Viking fans? Did Allen resume a steroid/HGH regimen in the final 9 games or is it just the ebbs and flows of a normal season for a good player?

  19. vikesandravens78 says: Nov 4, 2011 3:37 PM

    Classy guy and a real beast on the field. The only thing I don’t like is that the Vikes have to face him twice a year!

  20. axespray says: Nov 4, 2011 3:38 PM

    viking fans assuming anyone is on hgh is pretty funny, considering you’ve got
    Mr. “can’t contain my rage over being blocked during a FG” Robinson

  21. klunge says: Nov 4, 2011 3:44 PM

    If the offense weren’t winning these games handily, making the whole issue moot, you can bet he’d be slightly more concerned about which way the bad calls went. When it costs GB a game, we’ll see how the forgiving spirit fares.

  22. danielcp0303 says: Nov 4, 2011 3:52 PM

    Stand up guy from a classy organization. As a Cowboys fan, I can’t think of two players I like more than D Ware and Clay Matthews.

  23. vadog says: Nov 4, 2011 3:53 PM

    Matthews is a good player. And it was a bad call! He’s handling it like a pro.

    Yes, I am a Viking fan!

  24. snarkzilla says: Nov 4, 2011 3:57 PM

    A story about Matthews drawing out bitter Vikes fans? Shocking.

    Week 10, Lambeau Field. Enjoy.

  25. granadafan says: Nov 4, 2011 3:57 PM

    Let’s not proclaim Matthews a saint over this. Players and coaches get fined heavily if they criticize refs, so he’s not going to: a) say anything negative to get fined, and b) put a target on his back for ref retaliation. He comes from a football family and knows how the mind game is played.

  26. jrmbadger says: Nov 4, 2011 4:01 PM

    I wonder if the league admitted the call was wrong or not. I know sometimes they admit it.

  27. gb4ever0811 says: Nov 4, 2011 4:02 PM

    Oh but wait, I forgot, he’s been suffering from a ‘lingering quad injury’ all season. Well I sure hope those HGH negotations are resolved quickly. No doubt Clay’s hammy will feel much better once the testing is pushed to 2012 (as the NFLPA intends). My bad.

    ____________________________________

    It’s tough to generate sacks when you’re being double and triple teamed.

    Perfect example: Babin in Philly. Before Trent Cole went out, Babin was always in the opponent’s backfield. When Cole went out, Babin was never in the backfield. When Cole came back, Babin was once again in the backfield.

    Cole demands a double team and when he went out, Babin demanded it. Cole’s back, Babin gets single teamed and beats his man.

    Clay Matthews is a great player, therefore he demands the kind of attention to be double and triple teamed.

  28. jrmbadger says: Nov 4, 2011 4:07 PM

    “kibawib says:
    Nov 4, 2011 3:18 PM
    No doubt about that–just look at those classy Packer fans!

    “Green Bay police arrested four people and ejected three others Sunday during a mild day at Lambeau Field as the Green Bay Packers claimed a 49-23 win against the Denver Broncos. … It was the fewest number of ejections since at least the 2004 season, according to Green Bay Press-Gazette records. Four people were also arrested during the Packers’ 20-19 preseason win against the Kansas City Chiefs on Sept. 1. … Two people were arrested on suspicion of unlawful conduct at a public event and another person is suspected of possessing marijuana. ”

    Stay classy Wisconsin!”

    4 arrests out of 75,000 seems pretty low to me and actually cuts against your case that Packer fans aren’t classy fans. The Eagles used to have a jail and a courtroom with a judge IRC. By my math 4/75,000 is one half of one hundreth of a percent.

    Additionally, how do you know they weren’t the opposing teams fans?

  29. kibawib says: Nov 4, 2011 4:16 PM

    smoothjimmyapollo–”Why should he? Through their first 7 games, he led the league with 31 combined QB hits and pressures. His job is to disrupt the quarterback on passing plays. ”

    Thanks for sharing Clay’s unoffical lead in an unofficial statistical category. Lack of sack production is indicative of Clay being a step slow. Gee, I wonder why Samson lost his speed?

    In related bogus categoris only Packer fans keep track of, Charles Woodson leads the league in the number of tackles made using only his left hand…BJ Raji leads the league in cheeseburgers eaten at halftime, blah blah blah.

  30. beedubyatoo says: Nov 4, 2011 4:18 PM

    kibawib:

    So 7 people out of more than 70,000 who were at the game were either arrested or ejected and you’re nailing all Packer fans for their behavior?

    The startling thing is that it was reported in the local paper, but this is news in a small town. How many fans each week do you think are arrested or ejected in NY or Philly or in Minnesota, for the God’s sake? And if they were on the Viking’s roster, they don’t count.

  31. kibawib says: Nov 4, 2011 4:18 PM

    jrmbadger–”4 arrests out of 75,000 seems pretty low to me and actually cuts against your case that Packer fans aren’t classy fans.”

    Really? You must have missed the part about those 4 arrests being the fewest at Lambeau since 2004. Nice work.

  32. kibawib says: Nov 4, 2011 4:20 PM

    gb4ever0811–”It’s tough to generate sacks when you’re being double and triple teamed.”

    And Jared Allen has 12.5 sacks, is probably one of only two defenders on the Vikins worth blocking, rushes from the same position (end) on every play, and still has four times as many sacks as Roid Boy. If double and triple teams were the reason for Clay’s paltry sack production, then why do Ware and Allen have 12 sacks? The more obvious explanation? Thigh bruise = no more HGH in Roid Boy.

  33. 13xworldchamps says: Nov 4, 2011 4:23 PM

    kibabib
    Nov 4, 2011 3:22 PM

    Well at least Clay isn’t blaming the officials for the fact he ranks 39th this year in sacks, with a total of 3 for the season. Oh but wait, I forgot, he’s been suffering from a ‘lingering quad injury’ all season. Well I sure hope those HGH negotations are resolved quickly. No doubt Clay’s hammy will feel much better once the testing is pushed to 2012 (as the NFLPA intends). My bad.

    ———————————————————-

    he may be 39th in sacks, but if you combine pressures, hit’s and sacks he’s number 1 in the NFL. It’s a long season, and the Packers have 9 more games to play…..he’ll be in double digits by the end of the year and ready to make another playoff run…..as for your HGH barb, get off it and give it up, get a life……

  34. kibawib says: Nov 4, 2011 4:24 PM

    Green Bay Press Gazette, Nov. 2010:

    “15 arrested, 53 ejected at Green Bay Packers game vs. Dallas Cowboys at Lambeau Field …
    eight people were arrested for unlawful conduct at a public event, three for underage alcohol violations, two for unlawful conduct and resisting an officer and one each for substantial battery and disorderly conduct.”

    All class!

  35. smoothjimmyapollo says: Nov 4, 2011 4:33 PM

    So is kibawib the new screen name for Pervy Harvin or Paul Hargis?

  36. snarkzilla says: Nov 4, 2011 4:33 PM

    I’d trade you 4 fan arrests and 3 ejections out of a crowd of 75,000 for a starting CB who pulled a gun on someone and then tried to kill his girlfriend with his hands. But I’m not a Vikes fan, so I won’t.

  37. boiler72 says: Nov 4, 2011 4:41 PM

    Stay classy Wisconsin!

    ________________

    Stay envious and jealous, moron!

  38. smoothjimmyapollo says: Nov 4, 2011 4:41 PM

    “Thanks for sharing Clay’s unoffical lead in an unofficial statistical category.”

    What constitutes an official stat? Does it have to be on NFL.com or can it be one that they use during a broadcast. For example, QB pressures and knockdowns appear on almost every broadcast, but it’s not on their website. The above stats for Matthews were shown during a Packer game. The website Profootballfocus.com keeps track of this type of thing. Does it not count because the NFL limits their stats for defensive players on their website?

    If stats only matter if kibawib declare them official, then there’s really no purpose to websites like profootballreference.com, baseballreference.com, footballoutsiders.com, and a slew of other sites that keep track of stats that tell you more than just this player has a lot of x (sacks, TDS, RBIs, HRs, etc).

  39. mypackersownyourteam says: Nov 4, 2011 4:48 PM

    kibawib,

    Little bitter your team is always taking a back seat to the World Champion Green Bay Packers? Because it doesn’t show at all. LOL! Jealousy and envy are very ugly character flaws. And furthermore, female traits. You can always jump off your team’s bandwagon and hop aboard the Packers’ dynasty train. We’ll take everyone and anyone! Relax… its just football…. Hahahahahahhaha!!!

  40. rbirving says: Nov 4, 2011 4:49 PM

    Packer Fans have lots of class, it’s all pretty low, but it’s still class.

    Pondscum. Great team, embarassingly lowlife fans.

  41. ken0west says: Nov 4, 2011 4:52 PM

    Lets wait for what he says after a 15 yarder puts say the Giants in FG range in a tied playoff game with 10 seconds left.

  42. buckybadger says: Nov 4, 2011 5:01 PM

    Mattews is right, you can’t fault these officials for making a mistake here and there, it is going to happen. The sport is suppose to have a human element to the game.

    Funny that a sports writer who has probably never strapped a helmet on in his life can find fault in it. I mean they never make a mistake here like reporting Bradshaw dead or Aaron Rodgers snubbing cancer patients.

  43. fmwarner says: Nov 4, 2011 5:07 PM

    captaintriumph says: Nov 4, 2011 3:27 PM

    So who cares. It’s not like 2 years ago when the Vikings literally got cheated out of the Super Bowl.
    ===================================

    Still?
    REALLY?

    Five turnovers.

  44. kibawib says: Nov 4, 2011 5:12 PM

    smoothjimmyapollo–”If stats only matter if kibawib declare them official, then there’s really no purpose to websites like profootballreference.com….”

    An excellent point! Only one problem, though, if you check profootballreference.com, they don’t keep track of the number of hurries/pressures Matthews (or any other player) ‘records.’ Why? Because it’s an unofficial stat. Thanks for playing.

  45. kibawib says: Nov 4, 2011 5:15 PM

    mypackersownyourteam–”And furthermore, female traits.”

    Female traits…like men relieving themselves in sinks, or using the women’s restroom? Again, Green Bay has the market cornered on that unique (to Wisconsin) cultural trend:

    “Police took eleven people to jail and arrested and ejected dozens more during the Packers’ win over Miami at Lambeau Field.

    Police Captain Lisa Sterr says most of the arrests were for urinating in sinks in stadium restrooms.

    She says some of the football fans committed the offense even when uniformed police officers were present.”

    Bwahahahahahaha!

  46. boiler72 says: Nov 4, 2011 5:21 PM

    Packer Fans have lots of class, it’s all pretty low, but it’s still class.

    Pondscum. Great team, embarassingly lowlife fans.

    ___________________________

    Then why are you the one banging your cousin in a double-wide trailer?

  47. jrmbadger says: Nov 4, 2011 5:21 PM

    “kibawib says:
    Nov 4, 2011 4:18 PM
    jrmbadger–”4 arrests out of 75,000 seems pretty low to me and actually cuts against your case that Packer fans aren’t classy fans.”

    Really? You must have missed the part about those 4 arrests being the fewest at Lambeau since 2004. Nice work.”

    I’m still right.

    In order to properly support your argument that Packer fans aren’t classy by using arrest data at games, you have to provide a baseline (and prove that those arrested are fans of the Packers as opposed to a visiting team). Just saying X arrests at Packer games proves NOTHING until you establish that an average NFL game has Y arrests and that X>Y, and of those arrested all X are fans of the Packers.

    Logic Fail on your part.

  48. jrmbadger says: Nov 4, 2011 5:28 PM

    Kibawib, I tried searching for “Viking game arrested” and other variants to try and get some comparisons to see just how many arrests are at a typical NFL game, but I just kept coming up with results dealing with Minnesota Viking PLAYERS being arrested…..

    Nice.

  49. db105 says: Nov 4, 2011 5:30 PM

    It’s common sense to not make it an issue. It would be like making issue about your food at a restaurant and wonder why you got the extra seasonings when they remade your food.

  50. emoney826 says: Nov 4, 2011 5:33 PM

    Why is everyone so damn bitter towards Matthews? What has he done to you to merit so much hate? Until there’s any proof of him testing positive for anything, hes innocent. Just like jared Allen. How can he possibly have so many sacks? It’s gotta be roids. That statement is just as ridiculous as the one about Matthews. I mean, who the hell was jared Allen before making it in the NFL? Nobody. He worked his ass off and look where it got him. Same for Clay.

    All of you internet blogging haters would take Matthews on your team anyday.

  51. gb4ever0811 says: Nov 4, 2011 5:35 PM

    Kiawib:

    And Jared Allen has 12.5 sacks, is probably one of only two defenders on the Vikins worth blocking, rushes from the same position (end) on every play, and still has four times as many sacks as Roid Boy. If double and triple teams were the reason for Clay’s paltry sack production, then why do Ware and Allen have 12 sacks? The more obvious explanation? Thigh bruise = no more HGH in Roid Boy.

    Your stats are in a vacuum. You’re assuming Matthews is of the same caliber as Allen and Ware. Maybe he is, maybe he isn’t. Plus, he’s been battling that hamstring his entire career.

  52. gb4ever0811 says: Nov 4, 2011 5:36 PM

    So “take a shower, hit the weights, get a clue.” Also, “get some facts and come back and see me.” And one more, “What don’t you ____ understand.”

    Gotta love Philly radio!

  53. gb4ever0811 says: Nov 4, 2011 5:38 PM

    That’s in reference to you, kiawib, just in case you didn’t know.

  54. jrmbadger says: Nov 4, 2011 5:44 PM

    So this Viking fan told me today that he has a provision in his will that he wants Viking players to be his pallbearers at his funeral.

    I asked him why he had such a strange request.

    He told me that it was fitting that the Vikings would let him down one last time.

  55. paulharghis says: Nov 4, 2011 5:45 PM

    It’s neither.

    Contrary to Packer fans beliefs, there are 100′s of fans on here that can’t stand the Packer fan bs.

    Nobody hates the packers, its you idiot fans that make everyone want to vomit.

  56. fooath says: Nov 4, 2011 5:48 PM

    I thought lifting and driving the QB into the ground was part of roughing the passer now?

  57. paulharghis says: Nov 4, 2011 5:50 PM

    snarkzilla says:
    Nov 4, 2011 4:33 PM
    I’d trade you 4 fan arrests and 3 ejections out of a crowd of 75,000 for a starting CB who pulled a gun on someone and then tried to kill his girlfriend with his hands. But I’m not a Vikes fan, so I won’t.

    ================================
    I’d trade you a starting CB who pulled a gun on someone and then triedd to kill his GF with his hands for the I-5 killer.

    Check out Randall Woodfield on Google.

    Maybe you should check out if your team has had a serial killer on thier roster before you jump on a guy that has commited an assault?

    Nah, that wouldn’t be hypocritical, we all know the Packer fan base is the most hypocritical in all of pro sports.

  58. paulharghis says: Nov 4, 2011 6:04 PM

    jrmbadger says:
    Nov 4, 2011 5:21 PM
    “kibawib says:
    Nov 4, 2011 4:18 PM
    jrmbadger–”4 arrests out of 75,000 seems pretty low to me and actually cuts against your case that Packer fans aren’t classy fans.”

    Really? You must have missed the part about those 4 arrests being the fewest at Lambeau since 2004. Nice work.”

    I’m still right.

    In order to properly support your argument that Packer fans aren’t classy by using arrest data at games, you have to provide a baseline (and prove that those arrested are fans of the Packers as opposed to a visiting team). Just saying X arrests at Packer games proves NOTHING until you establish that an average NFL game has Y arrests and that X>Y, and of those arrested all X are fans of the Packers.

    Logic Fail on your part.

    ================================

    By the time the Vikings left Green Bay with a 38-26 victory, some 43 fans had been ejected from the 70,000-seat stadium; an additional 13 were arrested for disorderly conduct or marijuana or alcohol offenses. Leaguewide, teams average about THREE arrests and TWENTY FIVE ejections per game, according to Jeffrey Miller, the NFL’s director of strategic security programs
    ———————————————-
    No, youre wrong. Using the lowest level stated on this thread of 4- they are still over the average. All others i have seen, are well over the 4.

    Proving they aren’t fans of the other team? Cmon, are you really going to stoop to that?!

    All we here on this site is how great you fans are and sell out every game- now it’s “prove” that it wasn’t a Packer fan”? get real!

    So every visiting teams fans waits to act like idiots until they come to Lambeau? when the league average is 3 arrests and 25 ejections?

    How hypocritical can you get?

    It’s comical that you packer fans defend the most inane garbage.
    Why do you defend these guys like they are your relatives?

    Face it- this site is a small sampling of the Packer fanbase-loud, inane, obnoxious know nothings.

    Add alcohol at lambeau- it’s not suprising the statistics show your fanbase as WELL over the leaugue averages for these to points.

  59. jrmbadger says: Nov 4, 2011 6:47 PM

    “paulharghis says:
    Nov 4, 2011 6:04 PM ”

    Using one or two examples where fan behavior was a bit boorish still doesn’t establish that Packer fans are not generally “classy” (I hate that word, but whatever). You are cherry picking a couple of events and assuming that it represents the average Packer fan behavior.

    Even assuming the average arrest rate is somewhere above 4 arrests as the article above implies, are you going to make the claim that 6 or even 7 arrests proves the point that the other 73,121 fans are somehow not “classy” people? Yeah, we get it. You’ve managed to prove the point that every team’s fans have some idiots. Congratulations Captain Obvious. Lambeau also hasn’t had a rape in the parking lot (Philadelphia), or mayhem where people were shot (San Fran). It seems a good deal (from the above info) get kicked out for urinating in the sinks… big deal…. The metrodump has a trough. At least the Pack were “classy” enough to put in real toilets.

    Additionally, your average figures don’t take into account the capacity of the stadiums and the fact that Lambeau sells ALL the seats (as opposed to other stadiums that cover their seats to still have a sellout). Lambeau is just out of the top ten in stadium capacity so it figures that the amount of arrests would be one or two arrests higher than average.

    Additionally, the specific game’s arrest figures you cited probably DID include a number of Viking fans. It was a highly charged atmosphere when Favre came back the first time and Viking fans are not always angels either.

    Finally, no where did I say that Packer fans are “extra classy” – my attitude is that they are just like every other NFL team’s fans – lots of good folks, couple of idiots. But using arrest statistics at games is inaccurate at best .

  60. jrmbadger says: Nov 4, 2011 6:55 PM

    “paulharghis says:
    Nov 4, 2011 5:50 PM
    snarkzilla says:
    Nov 4, 2011 4:33 PM
    I’d trade you 4 fan arrests and 3 ejections out of a crowd of 75,000 for a starting CB who pulled a gun on someone and then tried to kill his girlfriend with his hands. But I’m not a Vikes fan, so I won’t.

    ================================
    I’d trade you a starting CB who pulled a gun on someone and then triedd to kill his GF with his hands for the I-5 killer.

    Check out Randall Woodfield on Google.

    Maybe you should check out if your team has had a serial killer on thier roster before you jump on a guy that has commited an assault?

    Nah, that wouldn’t be hypocritical, we all know the Packer fan base is the most hypocritical in all of pro sports.”

    Woodfield was cut by the Packers prior to his killing spree. Your players seem to get in trouble while ON the team. Then again, I’m sure we wouldn’t want to look up “Mossy Cade” would we? You know the Aunteater who was signed by the Vikings AFTER his crime and then had to be released because of the public outcry.

    Do a google for “Vikings most arrests” and see what comes up. Turns out your team is the most arrested team with 36 arrests since 2000.

  61. december77 says: Nov 4, 2011 7:40 PM

    “And even when the referee’s judgment is wrong, Matthews isn’t going to make a big deal out of it.”

    ….until it costs them their perfect season.

  62. TheDPR says: Nov 4, 2011 9:06 PM

    Officials should never throw a flag just because they *think* an infraction occurred. They should only call the penalty if they’re absolutely certain. Otherwise, just let them play.

    Would you rather see your team screwed over by a non-call or by a wrong call?

  63. snarkzilla says: Nov 4, 2011 9:26 PM

    paulharghis had to go back to 1974 for a snappy comeback about a Packer draftee. Talk about OCD.

    Post your address, pal. I’d be more than happy to send you some XL Packer panties.

  64. snarkzilla says: Nov 4, 2011 9:32 PM

    … unless you’d rather wear the thongs, that is. I can have either sent to you direct from Green Bay.

    You like doing research. Perhaps you can do some research into what sort of personality disorder causes Vikings fans to OCD in such a clearly malignant way about the Green Bay Packers.

  65. snarkzilla says: Nov 4, 2011 9:34 PM

    >….until it costs them their perfect season.

    The perfect season this year = winning XLVI.

  66. snarkzilla says: Nov 4, 2011 9:40 PM

    Oh, and congratulations again for spending $40 million on The Ol’ Gunslinger. No wonder he loves Minnesota.

  67. snarkzilla says: Nov 4, 2011 10:07 PM

    kibawib, paulhargis, percyharvin wherever you are:

    Congrats. You’re tied for first for the longest waiting period for a Super Bowl championship. Skol.

  68. packfan1 says: Nov 4, 2011 10:17 PM

    comparing Allen and Wares sacks like that to Clays is naive. The difference is those teams are getting pressure from other guys on the line, the Packers just arnt right now. All of a teams attention is to 52. The film dont lie. Watch sound effects of other teams sideline ‘whatever we do, were stopping 52′. Its notlike its a myth, 52 is accounted for every play..poeple that know football know hes a difference maker and hes really the one and only front 5 priority.

  69. Carl Gerbschmidt says: Nov 4, 2011 11:05 PM

    The Phantom Stranger says:
    Nov 4, 2011 3:06 PM
    Last year, Matthews would have flown into a rage over this incident. This year, he’s cool and calm. Just sayin’.

    ________

    Are you? Are you just saying? Why don’t you focus more on your Stud QB of the Future with his 77.5 PR and let the Claymaker worry about himself.

  70. smoothjimmyapollo says: Nov 4, 2011 11:20 PM

    Isn’t it weird how Paul Hargis jumps in and starts arguing kibawib’s points and when that happens, kibawib disappears. It’s like how Clark Kent disappears when Superman shows up only Superman and Kent are not complete tools unlike the other guy using two names. Quick, sign in as Pervy Harvin and you can get the trifecta.

  71. houndog50 says: Nov 4, 2011 11:48 PM

    captaintriumph says: Nov 4, 2011 3:27 PM
    Sure it was a lousy call. I’ve always wished that refs would swallow their whistles instead of making bogus calls, even if it means missing some calls. Missing a call is far better than making a wrong call IMO. That being said, what’s the big deal??? Meaningless game. Didn’t affect outcome. So who cares. It’s not like 2 years ago when the Vikings literally got cheated out of the Super Bowl.
    —————————————————
    captaintriumph, you’re right, you were totally cheated and robbed of a SB appearance, no question about it. Favre robbed you blind and cheated you out of a SB just by being himself, a beat-up, downtrodden has-been that throws more picks than touchdowns in big games. Just what the hell were you expecting, Aaron Rodgers?

  72. packerbacker12 says: Nov 5, 2011 2:08 AM

    You Viking fans can call us Packer fans “loud, obnoxious low-lifes” but at least we support our team unlike you Viking losers. And there was a clear example a few weeks ago last Sunday. That stadium was so empty of Viking fans later in the game, I could hear a “Go Pack Go” chant going on in the background. And it wasn’t like the Vikings were getting blown out. They were clearly in contention but I guess that wasn’t good enough for you idiots.

  73. footballrulz says: Nov 5, 2011 3:00 PM

    Thanks for sharing Clay’s unoffical lead in an unofficial statistical category. Lack of sack production is indicative of Clay being a step slow. Gee, I wonder why Samson lost his speed?

    In related bogus categoris only Packer fans keep track of, Charles Woodson leads the league in the number of tackles made using only his left hand…BJ Raji leads the league in cheeseburgers eaten at halftime, blah blah blah.
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    Hey Habib–I just picked this up @ nfl.com–I don;t think thay are all Packer fans,.
    » Clay Matthews is being scrutinized by some because his sack totals are down, but he leads the NFL in combined QB knockdowns and hurries (19.5), ahead of league sack leader Jared Allen (18).

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