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		<title>By: rcunningham</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 04:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[bmue42 says:
Nov 7, 2011 8:32 AM
sdjay76 says:
Nov 6, 2011 10:24 AM

culpepper had just thrown for 4700 yds and 39 tds. why on earth would they have drafted rodgers?

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1. favre just threw for 4,088 yards ands 30 tds the season before thats what winning organizations do

2. daunte culpepper is your excuse…really

That is seriously one of the stupidest arguments I&#039;ve ever read.

Favre was getting older, so obviously the Packers wanted to get a QB early for when he moved on rather than later.

Culpepper was in his mid-20s, just came off from a season where he set the single season record (that still stands) for most all purpose yards, and the Vikings had way more glaring needs at WR with the departure of Randy Moss.

You&#039;re a moron.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bmue42 says:<br />
Nov 7, 2011 8:32 AM<br />
sdjay76 says:<br />
Nov 6, 2011 10:24 AM</p>
<p>culpepper had just thrown for 4700 yds and 39 tds. why on earth would they have drafted rodgers?</p>
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1. favre just threw for 4,088 yards ands 30 tds the season before thats what winning organizations do</p>
<p>2. daunte culpepper is your excuse…really</p>
<p>That is seriously one of the stupidest arguments I&#8217;ve ever read.</p>
<p>Favre was getting older, so obviously the Packers wanted to get a QB early for when he moved on rather than later.</p>
<p>Culpepper was in his mid-20s, just came off from a season where he set the single season record (that still stands) for most all purpose yards, and the Vikings had way more glaring needs at WR with the departure of Randy Moss.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re a moron.</p>
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		<title>By: bmue42</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2011 13:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[sdjay76 says: 
Nov 6, 2011 10:24 AM 

culpepper had just thrown for 4700 yds and 39 tds. why on earth would they have drafted rodgers?

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1. favre just threw for 4,088 yards ands 30 tds the season before thats what winning organizations do

2. daunte culpepper is your excuse...really]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sdjay76 says:<br />
Nov 6, 2011 10:24 AM </p>
<p>culpepper had just thrown for 4700 yds and 39 tds. why on earth would they have drafted rodgers?</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
1. favre just threw for 4,088 yards ands 30 tds the season before thats what winning organizations do</p>
<p>2. daunte culpepper is your excuse&#8230;really</p>
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		<title>By: brewdogg</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2011 05:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[packmad1 says:
Nov 6, 2011 10:43 AM
@Waggs12, You may wish to retract your comment as you alone proved that everything you stated about WI schools and education is true only in MN. The math you are looking for is not 4×0 as we are comparing wins to losses; we are not multiplying GB wins by MN losses in Superbowls. The math you want to use is, 4&gt;0. That means 4 is greater than 0, hence GB bragging rights are 4 times greater than MN bragging rights. I know this is tough for you to follow Waggs. Try to keep up with the actual math though, ok?
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Actually, you are wrong, if you want to go by a mathematical perspective.  The wording of the phrase was &quot;they have 4 times the bragging rights&quot;.  In mathematical terms, that comes up as:

(GB bragging rights) = 4(MN bragging rights)

If bragging rights = SB wins, then GB bragging rights = 4 and MN bragging rights = 0.  Therefore:

(4) = 4(0)  which is not a balanced equation

Now, if the phrase was simply &quot;GB has more bragging rights than MN&quot;, than that would make sense, as 4&gt;0, but adding the multiplier ruins the application.

BTW, if you were to &quot;multiply GB wins by MN losses in Super Bowls&quot;, as you say, that would equal 16, with both teams being on the same side of the equation.

You were really bad at story problems, weren&#039;t you?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>packmad1 says:<br />
Nov 6, 2011 10:43 AM<br />
@Waggs12, You may wish to retract your comment as you alone proved that everything you stated about WI schools and education is true only in MN. The math you are looking for is not 4×0 as we are comparing wins to losses; we are not multiplying GB wins by MN losses in Superbowls. The math you want to use is, 4&gt;0. That means 4 is greater than 0, hence GB bragging rights are 4 times greater than MN bragging rights. I know this is tough for you to follow Waggs. Try to keep up with the actual math though, ok?<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>Actually, you are wrong, if you want to go by a mathematical perspective.  The wording of the phrase was &#8220;they have 4 times the bragging rights&#8221;.  In mathematical terms, that comes up as:</p>
<p>(GB bragging rights) = 4(MN bragging rights)</p>
<p>If bragging rights = SB wins, then GB bragging rights = 4 and MN bragging rights = 0.  Therefore:</p>
<p>(4) = 4(0)  which is not a balanced equation</p>
<p>Now, if the phrase was simply &#8220;GB has more bragging rights than MN&#8221;, than that would make sense, as 4&gt;0, but adding the multiplier ruins the application.</p>
<p>BTW, if you were to &#8220;multiply GB wins by MN losses in Super Bowls&#8221;, as you say, that would equal 16, with both teams being on the same side of the equation.</p>
<p>You were really bad at story problems, weren&#8217;t you?</p>
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		<title>By: brewdogg</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2011 04:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[orangeflh says:
Nov 5, 2011 10:34 PM
I find it funny how the Minnie fans think there’s this great rivalry with the Pack. Newsflash for you fine folks… there’s no such rivalry, never has been, and never will be.

The Pack’s rival is, always has been, and always will be, the Bears. The Vikings are merely an annoyance, albeit sometimes a somewhat amusing annoyance.

The Vikings could go, and any other team could take their place in the North and it just wouldn’t matter. Seriously; you people, as well as your sorry excuse for a team, really are that irrelevant.
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And yet here you are, in a thread linked only to the Vikings, posting on a story that has nothing to do with the actual game.  For someone who doesn&#039;t consider it a rivalry, you sure seem to be interested.....

Oh yeah, and the Packers players disagree with you.  Just saying....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>orangeflh says:<br />
Nov 5, 2011 10:34 PM<br />
I find it funny how the Minnie fans think there’s this great rivalry with the Pack. Newsflash for you fine folks… there’s no such rivalry, never has been, and never will be.</p>
<p>The Pack’s rival is, always has been, and always will be, the Bears. The Vikings are merely an annoyance, albeit sometimes a somewhat amusing annoyance.</p>
<p>The Vikings could go, and any other team could take their place in the North and it just wouldn’t matter. Seriously; you people, as well as your sorry excuse for a team, really are that irrelevant.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>And yet here you are, in a thread linked only to the Vikings, posting on a story that has nothing to do with the actual game.  For someone who doesn&#8217;t consider it a rivalry, you sure seem to be interested&#8230;..</p>
<p>Oh yeah, and the Packers players disagree with you.  Just saying&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: locutus</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2011 19:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Let&#039;s see if this works&lt;/i&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Let&#8217;s see if this works</i></p>
<p>Test</p>
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		<title>By: locutus</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2011 19:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;/i&gt; What&#039;s with the fricken italics?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> What&#8217;s with the fricken italics?</p>
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		<title>By: khmer379</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2011 17:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ otis52 why all the hate bout the vikings fawk ur bears last time I check cutler couldnt even finish the nfc title game da bears hab one SB rings 1 is close to none so nt worry well git our soon just dont understand bitoches like u git a life dnt be mad kuz we gona git a stadium]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ otis52 why all the hate bout the vikings fawk ur bears last time I check cutler couldnt even finish the nfc title game da bears hab one SB rings 1 is close to none so nt worry well git our soon just dont understand bitoches like u git a life dnt be mad kuz we gona git a stadium</p>
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		<title>By: madtownviking</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2011 15:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[“What is the legend of the Vikings?” Ah 51 years of history chocking in the big games. Ah let see, the team with the most players arrested league wide. And probably the biggest blunder of all, the team that not only passed once but twice on Rodgers in the 2005 draft. A team destined for the dunk heap.

just remember your current coach had the #1 pick and pass on him too.  Please troll some else.  I live in WI and can throw around trash if I want too, he is a little, Barry Sanders!  That would have been a nice pick.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“What is the legend of the Vikings?” Ah 51 years of history chocking in the big games. Ah let see, the team with the most players arrested league wide. And probably the biggest blunder of all, the team that not only passed once but twice on Rodgers in the 2005 draft. A team destined for the dunk heap.</p>
<p>just remember your current coach had the #1 pick and pass on him too.  Please troll some else.  I live in WI and can throw around trash if I want too, he is a little, Barry Sanders!  That would have been a nice pick.</p>
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		<title>By: packmad1</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2011 15:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Waggs12, You may wish to retract your comment as you alone proved that everything you stated about WI schools and education is true only in MN. The math you are looking for is not 4x0 as we are comparing wins to losses; we are not multiplying GB wins by MN losses in Superbowls. The math you want to use is, 4&gt;0. That means 4 is greater than 0, hence GB bragging rights are 4 times greater than MN bragging rights. I know this is tough for you to follow Waggs. Try to keep up with the actual math though, ok?

As for the Packers Vikings rivalry, it is very much true and alive up here in Superior, WI, and anywhere else in the northern half of WI. Don&#039;t say it isn&#039;t one because it is more so than the Bears rivalry up here. 

As much as I HATE the Vikings, I hope MN can pull its collective head out of its bum and get a stadium built. Before the Viking fans who choose to flip out over the use of the word hate get pissed of, notice I said the Vikings, not their fans. I only hate certain Viking fans, just like I hate certain Packer fans, aka ones like gb4mn0, who give all sports fans a bad name.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Waggs12, You may wish to retract your comment as you alone proved that everything you stated about WI schools and education is true only in MN. The math you are looking for is not 4&#215;0 as we are comparing wins to losses; we are not multiplying GB wins by MN losses in Superbowls. The math you want to use is, 4&gt;0. That means 4 is greater than 0, hence GB bragging rights are 4 times greater than MN bragging rights. I know this is tough for you to follow Waggs. Try to keep up with the actual math though, ok?</p>
<p>As for the Packers Vikings rivalry, it is very much true and alive up here in Superior, WI, and anywhere else in the northern half of WI. Don&#8217;t say it isn&#8217;t one because it is more so than the Bears rivalry up here. </p>
<p>As much as I HATE the Vikings, I hope MN can pull its collective head out of its bum and get a stadium built. Before the Viking fans who choose to flip out over the use of the word hate get pissed of, notice I said the Vikings, not their fans. I only hate certain Viking fans, just like I hate certain Packer fans, aka ones like gb4mn0, who give all sports fans a bad name.</p>
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		<title>By: sdjay76</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2011 15:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[“What is the legend of the Vikings?” Ah 51 years of history chocking in the big games. Ah let see, the team with the most players arrested league wide. And probably the biggest blunder of all, the team that not only passed once but twice on Rodgers in the 2005 draft. A team destined for the dunk heap.
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culpepper had just thrown for 4700  yds and 39 tds.     why on earth would they have drafted rodgers?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“What is the legend of the Vikings?” Ah 51 years of history chocking in the big games. Ah let see, the team with the most players arrested league wide. And probably the biggest blunder of all, the team that not only passed once but twice on Rodgers in the 2005 draft. A team destined for the dunk heap.<br />
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<p>culpepper had just thrown for 4700  yds and 39 tds.     why on earth would they have drafted rodgers?</p>
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		<title>By: Derty Ernie</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2011 14:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[3/4&#039;s of the people in the state are rural and can&#039;t get to the games in the winter so why would they want to pay taxes on a stadium.
Create a casino, large casino will full gambling and let the revenue from that fuel the states portion of the deal.
The indians have done well in the state now for 20 years plus so a little competition won&#039;t hurt.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>3/4&#8242;s of the people in the state are rural and can&#8217;t get to the games in the winter so why would they want to pay taxes on a stadium.<br />
Create a casino, large casino will full gambling and let the revenue from that fuel the states portion of the deal.<br />
The indians have done well in the state now for 20 years plus so a little competition won&#8217;t hurt.</p>
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		<title>By: thridandlong</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2011 13:27:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Viking fans and taxpayers of Minnesota, get ready to grab the old ankles !]]></description>
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		<title>By: snarkzilla</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2011 13:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&gt;Minnesota farmers will throw out their elected officials if they try to pass a tax funded stadium project.

And getting re-elected is, of course, all that matters. It&#039;s worth saying goodbye to your team so the farmers won&#039;t throw out the pols.  Or to make sure Zygi gets no advantage because he&#039;s a billionaire and should be hated. Or whatever, because &quot;stadiums are bad investments&quot; as we all know.

This is a pro football blog.  It&#039;s mindblowing how many &quot;fans&quot; here are trying to justify getting rid of their team.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;Minnesota farmers will throw out their elected officials if they try to pass a tax funded stadium project.</p>
<p>And getting re-elected is, of course, all that matters. It&#8217;s worth saying goodbye to your team so the farmers won&#8217;t throw out the pols.  Or to make sure Zygi gets no advantage because he&#8217;s a billionaire and should be hated. Or whatever, because &#8220;stadiums are bad investments&#8221; as we all know.</p>
<p>This is a pro football blog.  It&#8217;s mindblowing how many &#8220;fans&#8221; here are trying to justify getting rid of their team.</p>
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		<title>By: nitschke66</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2011 12:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[gb4mno is NOT a typical Packers fan, just an idiot Packers fan.   Most Packers fans I know would hate to see the vikes move.   It&#039;s too bad that the economy is so down.   Tax payers funding sports teams is a hard one to take given all the other needs.   But I hope Wilf and NFL decision makers find a way to keep the vikes in the twin cities!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gb4mno is NOT a typical Packers fan, just an idiot Packers fan.   Most Packers fans I know would hate to see the vikes move.   It&#8217;s too bad that the economy is so down.   Tax payers funding sports teams is a hard one to take given all the other needs.   But I hope Wilf and NFL decision makers find a way to keep the vikes in the twin cities!</p>
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		<title>By: dork54</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2011 11:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Minnesota farmers will throw out their elected officials if they try to pass a tax funded stadium project. That&#039;s why many outstate GOP leaders are not buckling under the pressure. They&#039;re facing political fire from both sides. What really is interesting is the the AEG stadium in LA is gonna be called Farmers Field !]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Minnesota farmers will throw out their elected officials if they try to pass a tax funded stadium project. That&#8217;s why many outstate GOP leaders are not buckling under the pressure. They&#8217;re facing political fire from both sides. What really is interesting is the the AEG stadium in LA is gonna be called Farmers Field !</p>
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		<title>By: grizzlybear34</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2011 11:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a 49 year old Bears fan, I would be sad to see them leave.  There is a history to the NFL, and the Vikings are a part of that and the NFC Central.  The great Viking defenses, the battles with the Bears, even the stupid Viking horn, I have to admit I like - as long as the Bears are 1 point better at 00:00.

I think the moves have settled down a little, no magical pots of gold anymore, if the NFL wants to move a team to LA, let it be one of the teams already on that coast.  LA  has already shown its ability to lose not one but two teams, I don&#039;t see why this is so much in play.  What have the public/fans of LA done to support their pro football teams to deserve a third opportunity?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a 49 year old Bears fan, I would be sad to see them leave.  There is a history to the NFL, and the Vikings are a part of that and the NFC Central.  The great Viking defenses, the battles with the Bears, even the stupid Viking horn, I have to admit I like &#8211; as long as the Bears are 1 point better at 00:00.</p>
<p>I think the moves have settled down a little, no magical pots of gold anymore, if the NFL wants to move a team to LA, let it be one of the teams already on that coast.  LA  has already shown its ability to lose not one but two teams, I don&#8217;t see why this is so much in play.  What have the public/fans of LA done to support their pro football teams to deserve a third opportunity?</p>
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		<title>By: snarkzilla</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2011 10:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cutting through the gratuitous noise from fans of other teams, almost all I see here is rationalization to justify a pro or con position.

Do you want the franchise in Minnesota or don&#039;t you?

If you don&#039;t, there are innumerable other communities that do.  If you do, do what you need to to keep it.

So, Zygi is a billionaire.  The Packers are worth over a $billion and I have no ownership interest.  So what&#039;s the difference really?  

Would I grumble if my sales tax went up by 1/2 of one percent to keep the Packers? Yeah, but I&#039;d grudgingly approve it in a heartbeat.  I&#039;m a Packers fan and I want them in Green Bay.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cutting through the gratuitous noise from fans of other teams, almost all I see here is rationalization to justify a pro or con position.</p>
<p>Do you want the franchise in Minnesota or don&#8217;t you?</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t, there are innumerable other communities that do.  If you do, do what you need to to keep it.</p>
<p>So, Zygi is a billionaire.  The Packers are worth over a $billion and I have no ownership interest.  So what&#8217;s the difference really?  </p>
<p>Would I grumble if my sales tax went up by 1/2 of one percent to keep the Packers? Yeah, but I&#8217;d grudgingly approve it in a heartbeat.  I&#8217;m a Packers fan and I want them in Green Bay.</p>
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		<title>By: locutus</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2011 09:31:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[orangeflh says: Nov 5, 2011 10:34 PM

The Vikings could go, and any other team could take their place in the North and it just wouldn’t matter. Seriously; you people, as well as your sorry excuse for a team, really are that irrelevant.&lt;/i&gt;

Here is a clue for you packer rubes.  Whenever I think something is irrelevant to me, I do not take the time out of my life to go read and then actually comment about it.  If Wilf had a dime for every Packer dupe to comment on a Viking thread claiming how little they cared about the Vikings, he&#039;d have enough to build the stadium!  Lol]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>orangeflh says: Nov 5, 2011 10:34 PM</p>
<p>The Vikings could go, and any other team could take their place in the North and it just wouldn’t matter. Seriously; you people, as well as your sorry excuse for a team, really are that irrelevant.</p>
<p>Here is a clue for you packer rubes.  Whenever I think something is irrelevant to me, I do not take the time out of my life to go read and then actually comment about it.  If Wilf had a dime for every Packer dupe to comment on a Viking thread claiming how little they cared about the Vikings, he&#8217;d have enough to build the stadium!  Lol</p>
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		<title>By: locutus</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2011 09:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;ducesblackshirt says: Nov 5, 2011 8:54 PM

If people wanna pay taxes for a stadium, that’s fine. Just don’t be spew that drivel about taxpayer funded stadiums being worth it when the evidence conclusively shows that it isn’t. &lt;i /&gt;

Hey genius, buried deep in the article that you linked to from Cato is this little gem.

&lt;i&gt;Would a new stadium add value to wherever? Sure&lt;/i&gt;

Then he goes on and continues with hid drivel of it isn&#039;t a good deal yet does not offer any hard evidence.  There is no hard evidence except that when a franchise moves, the local community and state suffer.  Is it forever, sometimes yes and sometimes no.  But there always is suffering in the short and medium term.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>ducesblackshirt says: Nov 5, 2011 8:54 PM</p>
<p>If people wanna pay taxes for a stadium, that’s fine. Just don’t be spew that drivel about taxpayer funded stadiums being worth it when the evidence conclusively shows that it isn’t. <i></i></p>
<p>Hey genius, buried deep in the article that you linked to from Cato is this little gem.</p>
<p></i><i>Would a new stadium add value to wherever? Sure</i></p>
<p>Then he goes on and continues with hid drivel of it isn&#8217;t a good deal yet does not offer any hard evidence.  There is no hard evidence except that when a franchise moves, the local community and state suffer.  Is it forever, sometimes yes and sometimes no.  But there always is suffering in the short and medium term.</p>
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		<title>By: warvette</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2011 07:30:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[go away, vikings.]]></description>
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		<title>By: mattbydlon</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2011 06:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[orangeflh:

Your claim that nobody but Vikings fans thinks there&#039;s a rivalry between the two teams is utterly and embarrassingly wrong. Wisconsin newspapers, quotes from Vikings/Players, even books on the Vikings-Packers rivalry are all readily available to anyone who has a computer and knows what Google is.

If you don&#039;t see Vikings-Packers as a rivalry, that&#039;s fine, it&#039;ll just be your own little contrived opinion. The Vikings will just be the neighboring team that that is 4 games back in the history of head-to-head games (48-52-1) and has won the only playoff game between the two teams... 

That great Bears team that is apparently the only NFCN team good enough to be your rival, the Vikings lead that head-to-head series 52-47-2. Your Packers&#039; overall record vs. the Bears is 7 games behind in head-to-head games (85-92-6). 

Have a nice day.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>orangeflh:</p>
<p>Your claim that nobody but Vikings fans thinks there&#8217;s a rivalry between the two teams is utterly and embarrassingly wrong. Wisconsin newspapers, quotes from Vikings/Players, even books on the Vikings-Packers rivalry are all readily available to anyone who has a computer and knows what Google is.</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t see Vikings-Packers as a rivalry, that&#8217;s fine, it&#8217;ll just be your own little contrived opinion. The Vikings will just be the neighboring team that that is 4 games back in the history of head-to-head games (48-52-1) and has won the only playoff game between the two teams&#8230; </p>
<p>That great Bears team that is apparently the only NFCN team good enough to be your rival, the Vikings lead that head-to-head series 52-47-2. Your Packers&#8217; overall record vs. the Bears is 7 games behind in head-to-head games (85-92-6). </p>
<p>Have a nice day.</p>
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		<title>By: waggs12</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2011 04:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[otis52gsh says: 
Nov 5, 2011 7:23 PM 
You Viking fans are a joke. Ripping on packers fans? They have 4 times the bragging rights you do.

Here&#039;s some 2nd grade math that they don&#039;t teach in Wisconsin: 4 x 0 = 0. So to say that the Packers have 4 times the bragging rights is completely ignorant, and a very accurate reflection on the education system in Wisconsin.

Also, it&#039;s easy for people to cheer for the Packers, whether they&#039;re bandwagon or original. Try being the fan of a team that continually lets you down each year and see how long you stay with it. Kudos to Viking fans who support them each year no matter what. Just wait until the Packers have a bad year and watch how many fans jump ship. I&#039;ve seen it happen many times with those &quot;fans&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>otis52gsh says:<br />
Nov 5, 2011 7:23 PM<br />
You Viking fans are a joke. Ripping on packers fans? They have 4 times the bragging rights you do.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s some 2nd grade math that they don&#8217;t teach in Wisconsin: 4 x 0 = 0. So to say that the Packers have 4 times the bragging rights is completely ignorant, and a very accurate reflection on the education system in Wisconsin.</p>
<p>Also, it&#8217;s easy for people to cheer for the Packers, whether they&#8217;re bandwagon or original. Try being the fan of a team that continually lets you down each year and see how long you stay with it. Kudos to Viking fans who support them each year no matter what. Just wait until the Packers have a bad year and watch how many fans jump ship. I&#8217;ve seen it happen many times with those &#8220;fans&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: oldcracker</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2011 04:34:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[booond says: 
Nov 5, 2011 9:33 PM 
Stadiums are a poor investment. Take the money and build better roads and bridges. He’s a rich guy, if it’s such a good investment let him pay for it.

Most intelligent post here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>booond says:<br />
Nov 5, 2011 9:33 PM<br />
Stadiums are a poor investment. Take the money and build better roads and bridges. He’s a rich guy, if it’s such a good investment let him pay for it.</p>
<p>Most intelligent post here.</p>
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		<title>By: packfaninchitown</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2011 04:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Pack’s rival is, always has been, and always will be, the Bears. 
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Bears/Packers IS the best rivalry in the history of professional sports, but I won&#039;t knock the Vikings role in the NFC North, they are a valued team in the division IMHO.  

The idea of trying to form a rivalry with the Rams just seems weird.

On the other hand, if MN does approve the new stadium I can only expect PSLs (if they don&#039;t have them already) and higher ticket prices to help pay for the place...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Pack’s rival is, always has been, and always will be, the Bears.<br />
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Bears/Packers IS the best rivalry in the history of professional sports, but I won&#8217;t knock the Vikings role in the NFC North, they are a valued team in the division IMHO.  </p>
<p>The idea of trying to form a rivalry with the Rams just seems weird.</p>
<p>On the other hand, if MN does approve the new stadium I can only expect PSLs (if they don&#8217;t have them already) and higher ticket prices to help pay for the place&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: The Phantom Stranger</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2011 03:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[johnnyb216 says: 
Nov 5, 2011 9:59 PM 
Sportsrube,
The vikings don’t sell out every game. They don’t even sell out any games. Every week the tv station buys the remaining tickets to avoid a blackout. I don’t consider that a sell out. Don’t you remember the playoff game they had trouble selling out a few years ago?
_________

Yes, they had trouble selling out a playoff game in 2008 because the QB was a joke and everyone knew they would lose. And they did. No, they haven&#039;t had trouble selling out any games since then. They&#039;ve sold out every game since 1998 and only a few needed help from the TV station. You&#039;re a liar.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>johnnyb216 says:<br />
Nov 5, 2011 9:59 PM<br />
Sportsrube,<br />
The vikings don’t sell out every game. They don’t even sell out any games. Every week the tv station buys the remaining tickets to avoid a blackout. I don’t consider that a sell out. Don’t you remember the playoff game they had trouble selling out a few years ago?<br />
_________</p>
<p>Yes, they had trouble selling out a playoff game in 2008 because the QB was a joke and everyone knew they would lose. And they did. No, they haven&#8217;t had trouble selling out any games since then. They&#8217;ve sold out every game since 1998 and only a few needed help from the TV station. You&#8217;re a liar.</p>
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		<title>By: dabeast1377</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2011 03:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[“If you think that pro sports do nothing for a local economy then you should see the Seattle Center area after the Sonics left. Guess everyone will see the impact this year when nobody’s NBA team is playing.”

The Seattle Center is empty because the Space Needle is the only thing worth seeing down there, the only other reasons people would go are music fans who wanna see the EMP and pedos hanging around the Fun Forest. And if those Queen Anne businesses were raking in so much dough from the Sonics they should have pooled their resources together and bought the team from Schultz or paid for a new arena with the help of people like Steve Ballmer. 

That was exactly my point the area is in shambles now because there is nothing going on because taxpayers decided not to fix the building. The sonics left, the Thunderbirds built their own arena and left to Kent, and most concerts are in the Tacoma dome now. Just a big building used for Seattle schools graduation once a year. Never said Queen Anne buisinesses were raking in dough just saying those businesses used to be open and the fun forest isnt even up and running. If we had some
things going on in the area people like your so called &quot;pedos&quot; would be run off by the good people enjoying a night out in a beautiful city.That entire area is hurting because of taxpayers refusing to fund and poor judgement by city officials. I just know I never wanted the Sonics to leave my city and was willing to pay for that , some that I know were not willing to pay and now regret not having a team.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“If you think that pro sports do nothing for a local economy then you should see the Seattle Center area after the Sonics left. Guess everyone will see the impact this year when nobody’s NBA team is playing.”</p>
<p>The Seattle Center is empty because the Space Needle is the only thing worth seeing down there, the only other reasons people would go are music fans who wanna see the EMP and pedos hanging around the Fun Forest. And if those Queen Anne businesses were raking in so much dough from the Sonics they should have pooled their resources together and bought the team from Schultz or paid for a new arena with the help of people like Steve Ballmer. </p>
<p>That was exactly my point the area is in shambles now because there is nothing going on because taxpayers decided not to fix the building. The sonics left, the Thunderbirds built their own arena and left to Kent, and most concerts are in the Tacoma dome now. Just a big building used for Seattle schools graduation once a year. Never said Queen Anne buisinesses were raking in dough just saying those businesses used to be open and the fun forest isnt even up and running. If we had some<br />
things going on in the area people like your so called &#8220;pedos&#8221; would be run off by the good people enjoying a night out in a beautiful city.That entire area is hurting because of taxpayers refusing to fund and poor judgement by city officials. I just know I never wanted the Sonics to leave my city and was willing to pay for that , some that I know were not willing to pay and now regret not having a team.</p>
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		<title>By: sportsrube90</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2011 03:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@nflfan1326: 17 straight sell outs for Jacksonville you say plus pre-season? Well how about try something like selling out every game since 1997 for Minnesota. So shut the hell up because 17 straight is like bragging about how you earn $5 in a week.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@nflfan1326: 17 straight sell outs for Jacksonville you say plus pre-season? Well how about try something like selling out every game since 1997 for Minnesota. So shut the hell up because 17 straight is like bragging about how you earn $5 in a week.</p>
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		<title>By: pack15forever</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2011 03:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a Packer fan I hope the Vikings can get the stadium done and stay in Minnesota. There is a time to rank on each other and talk smack but this isn&#039;t one of them. I would hate to see the Vikings go to L.A. where the fans are dispassionate and not really football fans.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Packer fan I hope the Vikings can get the stadium done and stay in Minnesota. There is a time to rank on each other and talk smack but this isn&#8217;t one of them. I would hate to see the Vikings go to L.A. where the fans are dispassionate and not really football fans.</p>
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		<title>By: mediasloppy</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2011 03:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wilf Has been running commercials and media events for awhile. Now of them directly pinpointing a new stadium, but the tradition and history of the franchise.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wilf Has been running commercials and media events for awhile. Now of them directly pinpointing a new stadium, but the tradition and history of the franchise.</p>
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		<title>By: orangeflh</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2011 02:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I find it funny how the Minnie fans think there&#039;s this great rivalry with the Pack. Newsflash for you fine folks... there&#039;s no such rivalry, never has been, and never will be. 

The Pack&#039;s rival is, always has been, and always will be, the Bears. The Vikings are merely an annoyance, albeit sometimes a somewhat amusing annoyance.

The Vikings could go, and any other team could take their place in the North and it just wouldn&#039;t matter. Seriously; you people, as well as your sorry excuse for a team, really are that irrelevant.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it funny how the Minnie fans think there&#8217;s this great rivalry with the Pack. Newsflash for you fine folks&#8230; there&#8217;s no such rivalry, never has been, and never will be. </p>
<p>The Pack&#8217;s rival is, always has been, and always will be, the Bears. The Vikings are merely an annoyance, albeit sometimes a somewhat amusing annoyance.</p>
<p>The Vikings could go, and any other team could take their place in the North and it just wouldn&#8217;t matter. Seriously; you people, as well as your sorry excuse for a team, really are that irrelevant.</p>
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