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Eli Manning brings the Giants back once again

Eli Manning, David Diehl AP

At halftime, it looked like the Giants and Patriots might struggle to score any points at all.

By the end of the fourth quarter, you had to wonder if there wasn’t some way to keep the game going so the two offenses could keep going at it. The two teams combined for 31 points in the final quarter, 21 of them in the final three minutes, of what turned into the kind of elite quarterback showcase many people thought it would be all week. And in the end, it was Eli Manning over Tom Brady once again.

Manning hit Jake Ballard for a one-yard touchdown pass with 15 seconds left on the clock to give the Giants a 24-20 victory. It is the fifth time this season that Manning has brought the Giants to a win when they were trailing in the fourth quarter and this one was the most impressive because he did it twice. Manning threw a touchdown to Mario Manningham with 3:03 to play to put the Giants up 17-13, but Manningham got an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty while celebrating the score that handed the Patriots a short field.

Brady moved down that short field for a touchdown pass to Rob Gronkowski and, for a moment, it looked like he’d come out of an awful day with a victory. Brady threw three interceptions, could have had a couple of other passes picked and looked out of sync all day long. The Giants defense had a great plan of attack all afternoon, even if Brady seemed to finally figure out a way to move the ball in the final quarter.

That’s two straight losses for the Patriots and three straight games where their offense has spent long portions of the day struggling to move down the field. They’ve now got a trip to Jersey to face the resurgent Jets next week and the AFC East lead is going to be on the line as a result of today’s loss. Their defense looked better for a large portion of Sunday, but it certainly seems like teams have discovered a way to slow down Brady and the offense.

We’re still waiting for someone to figure out how to slow down Manning in the fourth quarter. Without three offensive starters, Manning struggled early but came through late. The final drive featured some great throws, a timely scramble and a little help from Sergio Brown’s pass interference on Victor Cruz near the goal line. That gave Manning a shot to win the game and that’s all he needs these days.

The Giants are now 6-2, with a huge win to start a critical stretch of schedule that continues with a trip to San Francisco next week. They are two games up on the Cowboys and at least that many up on the Eagles after this win, though, and that means they have a little more margin for error thanks to Manning’s heroics.

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  1. mvpolamalu says: Nov 6, 2011 7:56 PM

    It really sucks that they only play every 4 years or in the super bowl. They play great games

  2. jdandcoke says: Nov 6, 2011 7:58 PM

    keep sleeping on my giants. if the defense is finally starting to turn the corner, which it looked like for about three quarters today, watch out.

    giants record since the season was supposed to start crashing down on their heads: 1-0.

  3. greendreams6 says: Nov 6, 2011 7:58 PM

    The Patriots are just not the same team from earlier this season. Their defense played better today but they’re still putrid. They’ve just been off. Tom Brady hasnt quite been Tom Brady lately. Next week is a test where all is on the line for sole possession of 1st place in the AFC East.

  4. nittanylion0 says: Nov 6, 2011 8:01 PM

    ELI-te quarterbacking in the final 2 mins

  5. mikecal645 says: Nov 6, 2011 8:03 PM

    I hate how this is an Eli Manning comeback story. Sometimes a team comes back and other times a team chokes. Giants D played great then the Pats D blew the game with bone head penalties at the end.

    Simple as that

  6. yankeesjetsknicksrangers says: Nov 6, 2011 8:03 PM

    Beautiful day for NY, especially the Jets

    Let the crybaby Patsies loose to complain about whatever it is that they complain about.

  7. jc327 says: Nov 6, 2011 8:03 PM

    Isn’t it time now that Eli Manning is recognized as an elite quarterback in the NFL? Besides having an amazing year so far, that’s twice he’s beaten Brady in a terse shootout – lest we forget, the other time was the freakin’ Super Bowl. Great quarterbacks are often measured by 4th-quarter comeback wins – this year, I believe Eli has marshalled 5 so far. Maybe he’s not Peyton, but seriously, who the hell is?

  8. ihateduke says: Nov 6, 2011 8:05 PM

    Great game Giants. What’s up with New Englan? Get it? No “d”!!!

  9. skins23 says: Nov 6, 2011 8:05 PM

    And the luckiest team in the NFL strikes again!

    Should have lost to Cards when Cruz fumbled.

    Should have lost to Bills but Fitz inexplicably threw the game away.

    Should have lost to Dolphins if not for absolutely bogus call on Brandon Marshall.

    Should have lost to Pats but got bailed out by a completely brainless PI penalty on Pats’ safety.

    Giants are +14 point differential this year, lowest among winning teams. Which means greatest positive win/loss variance which means LUCKIEST.

    Can’t wait for the annual December collapse when the horseshoes become dislodged from their fannies.

  10. zaggs says: Nov 6, 2011 8:05 PM

    Eli isn’t in Tom Brady’s class. Tom is in Eli’s!

  11. redbullenergydrink says: Nov 6, 2011 8:06 PM

    UNBELIEVABLE win by the G-Men. Well deserved. Patriots exposed? You bet they are!

  12. gcsuk says: Nov 6, 2011 8:06 PM

    jdandcoke says:
    Nov 6, 2011 7:58 PM
    keep sleeping on my giants. if the defense is finally starting to turn the corner, which it looked like for about three quarters today, watch out.

    giants record since the season was supposed to start crashing down on their heads: 1-0.
    ———————————————————-
    Sorry, jd, but you already jumped off the Giants bandwagon on an earlier thread. You need permission from the rest of us Giants fans to get back on.

    “jdandcoke says:
    Nov 6, 2011 5:52 PM
    my giants dont deserve to win this game. i dont care who is out, there is no way they shut be getting shut out by the pats defense.”

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/06/165329/

  13. benh999 says: Nov 6, 2011 8:07 PM

    When is the Ryan Mallett billboard going up?

  14. zaggs says: Nov 6, 2011 8:08 PM

    “mikecal645 says: Nov 6, 2011 8:03 PM
    Giants D played great then the Pats D blew the game with bone head penalties at the end.”

    Except if it wasn’t for those penalties, they would have been completions by Eli and he would have had over 300 yards passing.

  15. beatsfreak says: Nov 6, 2011 8:09 PM

    Everyone always seems to forget how good the Giants are on the road.

  16. jerseyshoregiant says: Nov 6, 2011 8:09 PM

    A lot of people do not want to admit it, but Eli has been one of the best two minute QB’s since he came into the league.

  17. rcampore says: Nov 6, 2011 8:09 PM

    skins23 says: Nov 6, 2011 8:05 PM

    And the luckiest team in the NFL strikes again!

    Should have lost to Cards when Cruz fumbled.

    Should have lost to Bills but Fitz inexplicably threw the game away.

    Should have lost to Dolphins if not for absolutely bogus call on Brandon Marshall.

    Should have lost to Pats but got bailed out by a completely brainless PI penalty on Pats’ safety.

    Giants are +14 point differential this year, lowest among winning teams. Which means greatest positive win/loss variance which means LUCKIEST.

    Can’t wait for the annual December collapse when the horseshoes become dislodged from their fannies.

    ________________________________

    I don’t even care what you write anymore, your team is 3-5!….hahaha :-)

  18. elmoron says: Nov 6, 2011 8:09 PM

    Julian just didn’t look as good on his touches as he is known to be…at least by those in Back Bay.

  19. iknowitallandmore says: Nov 6, 2011 8:09 PM

    The Giants own Tom Brady and Belicheat.

    The front four abused Cindy Brady all game long just like they did at the conclusion of that memorable Patriots 19-0 ,,ooops, I mean 18-1 season. LMAO!!

    Can anyone please remind me what exactly has that Patriots organization accomplished since getting busted for “misinterpeting the rules”???

    I know they made the playoffs once and got brutally beaten down by the Ravens so badly that half of Gillette Stadium was empty by halftime cause all those bandwagon fans couldnt stomach the massacre

  20. wferg1121 says: Nov 6, 2011 8:11 PM

    Patriots 18-1 at home against NFC teams.. Isn’t that ironic. The other thing is Troy Aikman should get off Eli’s back… If receivers are not getting open a QB should be able to count on his WR’s to make a play. That is the difference between Eli this week, and Tony Romo against the Eagles last week. Eli makes what fans consider “dumb” throws, but those are the same throws that has also helped him win games. He had 2 4th quarter come from behind drives in this game.

  21. eigglesnosuperbowls says: Nov 6, 2011 8:11 PM

    Mike Vick ain’t even in the same stratosphere as ELIJAH ! Enough of this media hyped video game quarterback being called the best quarterback to ever walk the planet ! Quite simple, its Brady, Rogers, ELIJAH and then Brees in the NFL today! Yo eiggle yackers get your little video game superstar number 7 ready for tomorrow night or you will be looking up at a 3 game hole ! HAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH 1960 !!!!!

  22. ny82jy says: Nov 6, 2011 8:12 PM

    That was awesome watching eli take the pats down again at the end of the game. What was even better today was being a jets fan. First the win vs buffalo, the dolphins falling out of the suck for luck, and the giants beating the pats again. Next week the jets are gonna send the pats on a three game losing streak and take over first place. Thumbs down it all you want i dont care. Congrats to the giants and their fans again for beating the pats. Eli owns the pats and he is one of if not the best two min qb in the league right now !

  23. drew05 says: Nov 6, 2011 8:13 PM

    Nice win for the G-men…

    Gonna make it fun for my Iggles, aren’t you?! I wouldn’t ask for it any other way!

    How many wins in arow did Brady’s Pats have at home?…20?

    Nice work g-men, particularly the D.

    See ya soon…

    Go Eagles!

  24. yodelpoo says: Nov 6, 2011 8:13 PM

    Face it. Eli is playing at a high level this year and yes he is an elite QB. Without him, I’m not even sure if the Giants have a win this year. With all the injuries that team is dealing with, he has been pretty much it.

    Enough with the constant questions, we have an answer.

  25. iamdanabnormal says: Nov 6, 2011 8:14 PM

    big win by my giants.

    putting any bluster aside because it is still only game 8, this was a great way to start what at this moment appears to be a hell of a remainder of the season.

    for the eli doubters, let’s make it real simple. elite quarterbacks are those who are able to carry a team on their back when it’s score or else. good quarterbacks can do it occasionally, the elite ones are the ones where the defenses are simply hoping to find a way to make a play against them. eli is elite.

    the pats are just a bit off. the offense needs another playmaker. a deep threat perhaps to open the field a lot more for the twin tight ends and wes welker. that secondary needs a ton of retooling and they are in dire need of a pass-rushing specialist.

    no matter what this was a great game. pats-giants have become must-see television.

  26. duanethomas says: Nov 6, 2011 8:15 PM

    I’ve been saying for over a year now. Brady Kraft and Belichick have won their last SuperBowl together. Bill Walsh said after 10 years they tune you out. That era is over, just look at history. After you do your run, thats it. Unitas, Starr, Bradshaw, Montana, Aikmen, not Brady. Attach the coaches to those guys also and that tells you it over.

  27. zaggs says: Nov 6, 2011 8:16 PM

    “skins23 says: Nov 6, 2011 8:05 PM

    And the luckiest team in the NFL strikes again!”

    Really? Oh, washington fan so yes you are that stupid. Lets see from preseason to now they’ve lost: 4 corners including their first rounder, have had their d-line set in only 2 games and lost their 2nd round pick. Og and they played this game without their top receiver, running back and center.

  28. hus10188 says: Nov 6, 2011 8:18 PM

    No Hakeem Nicks, No Ahmad Bradshaw, No David Baas, No Prince…..shall I go on.

    If theres one team that should be a blueprint for being a success in this NFL, its the Giants, no excuses, blue collar, next man up mentality, guys like Ballard and Cruz will soon be household names because of good coaching and Eli’s presence.

    The New York Football Giants are an example to all, with all the injuries they have had, I give my hand to Jim Harbaugh, but Coach Coughlin is the true NFL COACH OF THE YEAR.

    With everyone talking about how we are going to get smoked tonight and our ‘brutal schedule’ well guess what like Coach Coughlin said: “RESPECT ALL, FEAR NONE!!!!” – we ain’t bowing down to nobody, GO BIG BLUE.

  29. badtimeoutcaldwell says: Nov 6, 2011 8:18 PM

    lets hear all the Brayd apologists… 3 turnovers today… pretty sad.

    His TEAM played well enough to win… gave him some key turnovers and short fields and he still couldn’t get it done.

  30. jdandcoke says: Nov 6, 2011 8:19 PM

    gcsuk says:

    Sorry, jd, but you already jumped off the Giants bandwagon on an earlier thread. You need permission from the rest of us Giants fans to get back on.

    gc….ive been doing this “giants fan” thing for going on 35 years…..i really dont need to explain myself when i show my displeasure with the team when they are playing like garbage….which is exactly what the offense was doing the entire first half.

    next week, if the g-men come out flat against the niners, i’ll be cursing them again; and if they wind up winning the game, i’ll be happy like i am now….thats just the way it is with some fans, especially those of us who have been around a little while.

  31. bobhk says: Nov 6, 2011 8:19 PM

    Beginning of the end for Brady and the pats

  32. redbullenergydrink says: Nov 6, 2011 8:19 PM

    gcsuk says: Nov 6, 2011 8:06 PM

    jdandcoke says: Nov 6, 2011 7:58 PM
    keep sleeping on my giants. if the defense is finally starting to turn the corner, which it looked like for about three quarters today, watch out.

    giants record since the season was supposed to start crashing down on their heads: 1-0.
    ———————————————————-
    Sorry, jd, but you already jumped off the Giants bandwagon on an earlier thread. You need permission from the rest of us Giants fans to get back on.

    “jdandcoke says:
    Nov 6, 2011 5:52 PM
    my giants dont deserve to win this game. i dont care who is out, there is no way they shut be getting shut out by the pats defense.”

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/06/165329/

    ——————-
    OH WOW, this is funny.

  33. drew05 says: Nov 6, 2011 8:21 PM

    How many games would the Pats win w/o Brady?

    That defense is terrible…

    Isn’t Bill-a-cheat supposed to be a defensive wizard?

    How long before his image starts to tarnish?

    Shannahan’s image?
    Parcells made that mess in Miama…how long?

  34. rickrossin says: Nov 6, 2011 8:21 PM

    5 fourth quarter comebacks this year?? How can you not say thats good. ELIte.

  35. bigperm33 says: Nov 6, 2011 8:21 PM

    Anyone who thinks Manning played well either wasn’t watching or knows nothing about football. I understand the QB gets all the credit when he wins, but the last two drives were aided by 55 yards on two pass int calls – and both calls were on bad throws that were bad decisions by Manning. He just throws the ball up and somehow, it seemed to work out in this game. The big pass to Ballard on the last drive was horrible defense and a play that a good defense either picks off or puts a huge hit on the defender – the pats did neither.

    That loss was on the Patriots defense on those last two drives (and those last two drives prove that if you play NE, any play you don’t pass is a waste). The Patriots offense is no good either – it is all Welker and Gronkowski. Can’t consistently move the ball when you have no one on the team that can make a play down the field. Branch has disappeared, Hernandez seems to disappear at times too. Ochocinco has given them nothing (i place a good share of that blame on Brady – you have to find ways to get players involved). NE does not have one player you fear can make a huge play, either on special teams or on the offense. It is all on brady to make every throw and we have seen the last few weeks, that when he is off, the offense can’t do anything.

  36. bobhk says: Nov 6, 2011 8:24 PM

    The New York Football Giants are an example to all, with all the injuries they have had, I give my hand to Jim Harbaugh, but Coach Coughlin is the true NFL COACH OF THE YEAR.

    —————
    Naah. Couglin has done well but it’s still harbaugh.
    Quality of opposition for giants has been poor (pats notwithstanding).

  37. cmb79 says: Nov 6, 2011 8:24 PM

    I admit, I wasn’t expecting a win, but I’m proud of my boys. I feel the defense gets the gameballs, because their play for really the whole game was superlative.

    This could be a springboard. I’m much more confident about next week now than I would’ve been if they had lost and started this stretch on the wrong foot.

  38. zaggs says: Nov 6, 2011 8:26 PM

    One more argument for those who think Eli isn’t elite. He is 3rd in QB rating this year and these were his receivers today: Victor Cruz (undrafted FA and played in no games last year), Jake Ballard (undrafted FA and only played in 1 game last year), Mario Manningham (3rd pick), Ramses Barden (3rd rd pick), Bear Pascoe (6th rd pick).
    No Welker, Branch or Ochocinco for Eli.

  39. tony1381 says: Nov 6, 2011 8:30 PM

    New England didn’t deserve to win this game.

    They played poorly for 3 quarters, and tried to steal it at the end (which is more I can say for their game against Pittsburgh). Brady looked completely off.

    Their defense played their best game of the season. Its ironic that their offense was the real issue for the most part, turning the ball over and giving the Giants short fields to work with.

    But something I am sure Belichick knows is that as brilliant is he is in creating schemes (this looked like a different defensive team than last week), he really lacks the defensive personnel of a great team. He is partially to blame for that since their drafting of defensive players has been terribly inconsistent. Does he get the most out of his players? Sure. But you can’t except to win Superbowls when special team players (Sergio Brown) are playing in the most crucial moments of a football game. That pass interference was horrendous.

    I think its good that so many teams are playing man coverage on this offense. There is always a way to figure out how to beat a coverage scheme, and if they (New England) don’t figure it out next week, they will be letting the division slip away.

    I see the Jets as a do or die game for their season. We will see how it turns out. I have faith that Belichick and Brady will right this ship.

  40. rugdaniels says: Nov 6, 2011 8:31 PM

    I’m tired of the elite/non-elite debate. As Troy pointed out during the game, What was Eli supposed to say? That he was average? He thinks he’s one of the best QB’s in the game, what’s the issue? It’s such a non-story.

    Eli Manning is what he is. Every now again he comes up with a magic drive, every now and then he comes up with a bone-head play that costs the Giants a game. The rest of the time he’s a very good quarterback. Good enough to win, dangerous enough to lose.

    Regardless, today was a HUGE win for the Giants and Eli was a very big part of it.

  41. theseekeroffun says: Nov 6, 2011 8:38 PM

    Enjoy the win, you probably won’t see another one for a few weeks.

  42. wferg1121 says: Nov 6, 2011 8:41 PM

    bobhk says:Nov 6, 2011 8:24 PM

    Naah. Couglin has done well but it’s still harbaugh.
    Quality of opposition for giants has been poor (pats notwithstanding).
    ——————————————————
    You need to look at the Giant’s IR list and active roster each week.. San Fran’s schedule doesn’t look that challenging either. (Detroit notwithstanding)

    According to everyone the Giants season was over at the beginning of the year.

  43. hamishfraser says: Nov 6, 2011 8:42 PM

    I must be blind, because I only saw Brady throw 2 interceptions, not 3

  44. mikecal645 says: Nov 6, 2011 8:42 PM

    zaggs,

    What game were you watching? the PI at the end zone was a horrible throw, no chance that would have been caught. PI on Arrington was a badly under thrown ball, All Arrington had to do was turn around.

    Every time I watch a Giants game I’m still shocked he’s getting 100m.

  45. mikecal645 says: Nov 6, 2011 8:45 PM

    rugdaniels

    See the Matt Ryan interview when he was asked about how Eli should have answered it.

  46. gcsuk says: Nov 6, 2011 8:50 PM

    bigperm33 says:
    Nov 6, 2011 8:21 PM
    Anyone who thinks Manning played well either wasn’t watching or knows nothing about football.
    ———————————————————-
    Obviously you are the one who wasn’t watching. BOTH PI calls were the result of the defender never turning around to look for the ball and running blindly through/into/over the receiver. that will get called EVERY time. I watched the game with a Pats fan, and he was disgusted with the garbage coverage, not with the correct calls.

  47. mikecal645 says: Nov 6, 2011 8:59 PM

    gcsuk

    Your point only proves that it wasn’t Eli playing well, it was the Pats D playing awful.

  48. jmota222 says: Nov 6, 2011 9:05 PM

    Hey skins 23 you sound awfully bitter!! Maybe you should start worrying about you own teams problems cause the skins are in disarray !! Go g-men

  49. mydogwantstofightvick says: Nov 6, 2011 9:23 PM

    Skins23, ur clueless luck is preparation meeting opportunity…Eli is not Peyton…hes Eli and guess what that’s a whole lot better the grossman, mc nabb, and the rest of ur qb failures, it’s a shame send Cooley to us so ur one player with heart has a chance to win….

  50. wferg1121 says: Nov 6, 2011 9:28 PM

    rugdaniels says:Nov 6, 2011 8:31 PM
    Every now again he comes up with a magic drive, every now and then he comes up with a bone-head play that costs the Giants a game…
    ———————————————————-
    5 4th qtr come from behind wins this year, and could easily be 6 if Cruz does not slip at the 2 yard line against Seattle… That does not sound like every now and then when you only have 6 wins… Also the boneheaded play against the Eagles??? You mean the infamouse dive?? We were already losing that game, except he was working on another 4 qtr come from behind win.
    Last year alot of drops, and by week 6 we were signing WR’s off the street.. It was amazing we were 10-6… Eli was always elite in my book, and now he has “stats” to back it up!

  51. bigpara says: Nov 6, 2011 9:44 PM

    Really no love for the 6 and 2 Giants, the G-men are a good team and haters will always hate…. Giants will win that division. That +14 doesn’t mean anything, if they keep winning. So keep hating because the Giants will keep winning. All of them injuries and the Giants are 6 and 2, with a 2 game lead in the NFC East. Saying the Giants are getting lucky every game is total bull, man that excuse is getting tired. Eli is the best 4th qtr QB in the league right now and he prove it again today.

  52. skins23 says: Nov 6, 2011 10:07 PM

    I love it…. Yes I know the Skins suck, doesn’t change the fact the Giants are the luckiest team in the league and have been for years. Change that ONE play in any of those 4 games and Giants lose them all.

    Your luck will run out and the usual December collapse will follow, as will the annual calls for rat face Coughlin’s job.

    I’m not angry, it delights me when Giants fans think theyre better than they are because its all the more wonderful when they fall flat on their face later.

    Everybody loves Eli – hes a decent QB but he could play the Colts next week and throw 4 awful picks. And theyd all be horrible throws off his back foot into double coverage.

    Giants are frontrunners – write them off and they play well, then they play like crap against bad teams. Up and down to competition but so far this year theyve got the bounces. It wont last.

  53. gcsuk says: Nov 6, 2011 10:20 PM

    skins23 says:
    Nov 6, 2011 10:07 PM
    I love it…. Yes I know the Skins suck, doesn’t change the fact the Giants are the luckiest team in the league and have been for years. Change that ONE play in any of those 4 games and Giants lose them all.

    Your luck will run out and the usual December collapse will follow, as will the annual calls for rat face Coughlin’s job.

    I’m not angry, it delights me when Giants fans think theyre better than they are because its all the more wonderful when they fall flat on their face later.

    Everybody loves Eli – hes a decent QB but he could play the Colts next week and throw 4 awful picks. And theyd all be horrible throws off his back foot into double coverage.

    Giants are frontrunners – write them off and they play well, then they play like crap against bad teams. Up and down to competition but so far this year theyve got the bounces. It wont last.
    ———————————————————–
    Oh, well. I guess up and down is better than just playing bad against everyone for the last few weeks. remind me again…who is in last in the division? Oh yeah…Redskins.

  54. gcsuk says: Nov 6, 2011 10:22 PM

    skins23 says:
    Nov 6, 2011 10:07 PM

    Everybody loves Eli – hes a decent QB but he could play the Colts next week and throw 4 awful picks. And theyd all be horrible throws off his back foot into double coverage.
    ———————————————————–
    Yeah, everybody LOVES Eli. You can tell that by the wonderful names he gets called on a regular basis.

  55. rcampore says: Nov 6, 2011 10:25 PM

    Skins 23, Go back to watching your awful Redskins and keep calling the Giants lucky. I’ll take our Lucky wins every day over a crappy team with no QB.

  56. mynameiscoopermanning says: Nov 6, 2011 11:09 PM

    skins23 says:
    Nov 6, 2011 10:07 PM
    I love it…. Yes I know the Skins suck, doesn’t change the fact the Giants are the luckiest team in the league and have been for years. Change that ONE play in any of those 4 games and Giants lose them all.

    Your luck will run out and the usual December collapse will follow, as will the annual calls for rat face Coughlin’s job.

    I’m not angry, it delights me when Giants fans think theyre better than they are because its all the more wonderful when they fall flat on their face later.

    Everybody loves Eli – hes a decent QB but he could play the Colts next week and throw 4 awful picks. And theyd all be horrible throws off his back foot into double coverage.

    Giants are frontrunners – write them off and they play well, then they play like crap against bad teams. Up and down to competition but so far this year theyve got the bounces. It wont last.

    —————————————-
    Please refrain from speaking…..this discussion is for teams with winning records. Not for basement dwelling, laughing stocks of the division. Cant wait to play you bums again.

  57. murphintampa says: Nov 6, 2011 11:49 PM

    Skins23 on:

    49′ers over Cowboys (aka “The Catch”) – “Niners were lucky, Everson Walls inexplicably let Clark catch the ball over his head.”

    Broncos over Browns (“The Drive”) – “Broncos were lucky, Cleveland inexplicably let Broncos march down the field on their final possession.”

    Steelers over Cardinals, SB 43 – “Steelers were lucky, Cardinals inexplicably let Holmes get both feet down in end zone.”

  58. bobhk says: Nov 7, 2011 12:08 AM

    wferg1121 says:
    Nov 6, 2011 8:41 PM
    bobhk says:Nov 6, 2011 8:24 PM

    Naah. Couglin has done well but it’s still harbaugh.
    Quality of opposition for giants has been poor (pats notwithstanding).
    ——————————————————
    You need to look at the Giant’s IR list and active roster each week.. San Fran’s schedule doesn’t look that challenging either. (Detroit notwithstanding)

    According to everyone the Giants season was over at the beginning of the year.
    —————————-
    @wferg1121, you should be proud of how Giants played and won today but don’t be dense.

    The quality of opponents for the niners have been much stronger.
    Giants opponents W-L: 21-34
    Niners opponents W-L: 31-32

    Just because they beat the pats let’s not forget the squeek by win against the Dolcraps or the loss against the 2 win seattle team or the loss against the horrible skins. The only loss niners have has been in OT to the Crapboys.

    Couglin is doing a good job even with the injuries but what Harbaugh has done with this turn around is amazing.

  59. buddybowl69 says: Nov 7, 2011 3:31 AM

    Kazoo strikes again. Darn, that is a big head.

  60. pftwstbshmc says: Nov 7, 2011 6:34 AM

    Anyone who wants to believe that Eli (never has been, never will be Elite) Manning won the game for them doesn’t know anything about football. The Patriots defense GAVE them the game. Nothing more, nothing less.

  61. wferg1121 says: Nov 7, 2011 10:17 AM

    @pftwstbshmc says:Nov 7, 2011 6:34 AM
    Anyone who wants to believe that Eli (never has been, never will be Elite) Manning won the game for them doesn’t know anything about football. The Patriots defense GAVE them the game. Nothing more, nothing less.
    ———————————————————-
    Your right the Pats defense gave him the game twice in the 4th qtr, and I am sure the other 4 teams he has done it too this year feels the same way!
    Eli has will always be elite in my book.

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