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Packers remain the class of the NFL

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There was a school of thought that this could be the week the Packers would lose their first game: The undefeated defending champions might be getting a little complacent, they were taking a long road trip to San Diego, the Chargers were desperate for a win, and the Packers have to lose some time, don’t they?

Maybe not.

The Packers showed once again on Sunday that they’re the head of the class in the NFL, jumping ahead of the Chargers early and holding on late to win 45-38.

Aaron Rodgers continued his MVP campaign with another smooth, efficient game when he made it look too easy: Right now Rodgers appears capable of carving up most defenses without even having to break a sweat. Today Rodgers completed 21 of 26 passes for 247 yards, with four touchdowns and no interceptions for a passer rating on the day of 145.8.

Meanwhile Philip Rivers had some big moments but some other plays when he looked — as he too often has this season — like he’s just not right: In the first quarter he threw two interceptions, both returned for touchdowns, and the Chargers were never able to climb out of the hole those turnovers dug for them. Rivers did a lot right — he completed 26 of 46 passes for 385 yards and four touchdowns, but his three interceptions (including one on his last pass, sealing the Chargers’ loss) were the difference in this game.

At 8-0, the Packers are clearly the best team in the league, and there’s not even a close second. A lot can change over the second half of an NFL season, but at the moment the Packers look like they’re going to be an extremely tough team to beat.

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  1. cakemixa says: Nov 6, 2011 7:41 PM

    Class = giving up 38 points? And barely winning when your opponent gift wraps you TWO pick-6s?

  2. snarkzilla says: Nov 6, 2011 7:42 PM

    I couldn’t have wished for anything beyond this after the Packers’ bye. They won despite some rust on both sides of the ball and the tape from this game will be invaluable for Dom Capers going forward.

  3. axespray says: Nov 6, 2011 7:43 PM

    our defense is like a reverse Romo…
    you know how Romo has a great game until the clutch….then he chokes, well our Defense is leaving dudes wide open, giving up TDs, then all of a sudden, game on the line, BAM!

    INT/Goalline stop/Sack/etc….

    We’re playing good defense, our dudes are just not communicating like an elite/veteran unit.

  4. jackfactor says: Nov 6, 2011 7:43 PM

    THey have to get a better pass rush. Neal returns next week, but Rodgers will have at least one game under 100 and they are giving up too many points as QBs have too much time. 8-0 sure is nice though!

  5. snarkzilla says: Nov 6, 2011 7:44 PM

    The end of game management by the Packers was almost textbook perfect.

  6. dansyndersux says: Nov 6, 2011 7:44 PM

    Their offense is unstoppable.

  7. orangeflh says: Nov 6, 2011 7:44 PM

    Stop crying. Nobody likes cake with tears in it.

  8. axespray says: Nov 6, 2011 7:45 PM

    cakemixa says:Nov 6, 2011 7:41 PM
    “Class = giving up 38 points? And barely winning when your opponent gift wraps you TWO pick-6s?”

    suppose we could lay down to the rams, or get beat by the titans, or choke a huge lead against the bills, or probably get beat down by 48 points against the niners…. or we could just do what no other team is doing this year, NOT LOSE, just win homie!

  9. m67logan says: Nov 6, 2011 7:47 PM

    @cakemixa

    giving up 38 points doesn’t mean they don’t have class…it just means they really need to pick up their game on defense.

    and by the way, GO PACK GO!

  10. greendreams6 says: Nov 6, 2011 7:47 PM

    Meh, their defense is not that good.

  11. packersareandwillalwaysbebetterthanthebears says: Nov 6, 2011 7:49 PM

    The only thing the regular season is for is to determine who makes the playoffs. Nothing really matters right now. It’s all about who’s holding the Lombardi trophy in February. With that said, I am definitely excited for how everything ends up.

  12. brandonyer says: Nov 6, 2011 7:49 PM

    Everyone will complain that the best team in the NFL wouldn’t keep barely winning in the last minute. Because they refuse to see that the Patriots, Saints, Steelers have all ended games with an actual loss. GB keeps winning. Fans of the other teams just need to complain about something.

    However, GB does need to fix their problems in the secondary. I feel like SD could have passed more often today and been even more successful. It seemed like someone was wide open almost every time they threw it. Fortunately Rivers hit 3 Packers that were wide open.

  13. shibbyleigh says: Nov 6, 2011 7:50 PM

    The defense is just garbage. The entire game, the Chargers were catching passes with defenders at least five yards away at all times. Giving up a 21 point lead in the fourth quarter? Pffft.

    No pass rush, poor secondary play. If Rodgers has an off game, we’re going down.

  14. redlobster1984 says: Nov 6, 2011 7:51 PM

    Defense is overrated, similar to the Saints the year they won the superbowl. When you hang 45 on another team, they are forced to throw constantly to attempt a comeback, easy to play defense when every play is obviously a passing situation.

  15. johnnyshore says: Nov 6, 2011 7:51 PM

    The headline should say “Packer’s OFFENSE remains the class of the NFL.” As a complete team, they are far from classy. That was a pitiful defensive effort by the Packers, and the Chargers showed that Green Bay is very beatable.

  16. axespray says: Nov 6, 2011 7:53 PM

    oh wow, the broncos beat the raiders, dolphins beat the chiefs….
    and the redskins are basically dead now….

    yet, we’re 8-0… in a league filled with parity, we’re standing taller than anybody else.

  17. Gordon says: Nov 6, 2011 7:53 PM

    Their D has been suspect all year. I guess as long as Rodgers keeps putting up monster points, it doesn’t really matter.

  18. snarkzilla says: Nov 6, 2011 7:53 PM

    > Meh, their defense is not that good.

    Exactly. And still they’re 8-0. I expect the D will improve markedly in the second half of the season and the tape from this game will be gold.

  19. jdandcoke says: Nov 6, 2011 7:55 PM

    the packers are still the class of the league….but that defense just isnt as great as it probably needs to be. the pack is still the team to beat in the nfc but dont sleep on the niners….and maybe the giants.

  20. snarkzilla says: Nov 6, 2011 7:56 PM

    >If Rodgers has an off game, we’re going down.

    As long as it’s not a postseason game, who cares? 16-0 is worthless if there’s no Super Bowl win in XLVI. The Packers have 8 weeks now to adjust and finagle before the postseason starts.

  21. 12is3times4 says: Nov 6, 2011 8:02 PM

    The Packers’ offense remains the class of the NFL.

    The defense, on the other hand, still has a ton of issues. It was feast or famine for them today, mostly famine.

  22. pdillon1 says: Nov 6, 2011 8:05 PM

    The “class of the NFL” just gave up almost 40 points and won because the opposing QB is having the worst season of his career.

    So in other words, Aaron Rodgers has to put up Nintendo numbers and have a historic season in order for this team to barely win games. Yeah I’d like to see that come playoff time. All he needs is one decent not great game in the playoffs for the Packers to be sent home packing. Class of the NFL? Yeah OK.

  23. beedubyatoo says: Nov 6, 2011 8:05 PM

    The game is about who scores the most points, not who gives up the most. If the Pack wins 70-69 next week, they’ll be 9-0. Whine away Packer haters, They’re the most successful franchise in the NFL And arguably, only behind the Celtics and the Yankees in all of professional sports.

  24. shibbyleigh says: Nov 6, 2011 8:07 PM

    As long as it’s not a postseason game, who cares? 16-0 is worthless if there’s no Super Bowl win in XLVI. The Packers have 8 weeks now to adjust and finagle before the postseason starts.

    ——————-

    When do you think we’re going to see teams that will be effective in stopping our offense? Probably the playoffs.

    Can’t play defense like that for too long and expect to keep winning, regular or post season.

  25. noeffinway says: Nov 6, 2011 8:11 PM

    MDS proves once again, with some more cheesehead spew, how much of a packer homer he really is……lamo

  26. j972 says: Nov 6, 2011 8:12 PM

    If Favre was still Green Bay’s QB, the packers would be 9-0 right now.

  27. shaggytoodle says: Nov 6, 2011 8:13 PM

    That official crew was awful, late flags, idk if that TD to Nelson was really a TD, they didn’t blow the whistle on the 2nd half kickoff, for GB.

    A win is a win, and knew the Chargers were going to play tough, especially after Monday. Glad GB came out on top.

    SD now gets to play thier 3 game in 11 days on thurs. that is a tough run.

  28. botchedextrapoint says: Nov 6, 2011 8:22 PM

    Keep letting other teams hang around, eventually the Pack will be burnt. However when this happens I see it being of the last second field goal or TD type. Can’t see one team that can shut down this offense and torch the defense in the same game like the 49ers did to the bucs a few weeks back. Until then I will enjoy one of the greatest purple patches of all time. Superbowl champ, 8-0, high powered offense led by potential MVP, what’s not to like?

  29. teal379 says: Nov 6, 2011 8:26 PM

    Lots of idiots say the same thing EVERY week…

    “Team X showed that the Packers are beatable”

    Ignoring the fact that so far they aren’t. No one’s done it. The only thing we know for sure – so far is everyone’s beatable EXCEPT the Packers.

    Will they go undefeated? Probably not but who cares? They didn’t go undefeated last year and last I checked won themselves some hardware…

    As “beatable” as everyone says they are – hundreds of millionaires have been enlisted to do so and they can’t.

    Deal with it.

  30. jimmysee says: Nov 6, 2011 8:36 PM

    The goal is #1 NFC seed; home field advantage throughout the playoffs.

    Undefeated not important.

    Go Pack Go!

    On to Monday Night Football and the Vikes.

  31. teal379 says: Nov 6, 2011 8:40 PM

    pdillon1 says:
    Nov 6, 2011 8:05 PM
    The “class of the NFL” just gave up almost 40 points and won because the opposing QB is having the worst season of his career.

    *******************************************

    So a 40 point day is part of the “worst of his career”?

    Please regale us with how many rings Rivers has, or AFC titles or games over 110 PR in a row or games over 50 points etc.

    I mean – this was a bad day for Phillip and the Packers were lucky to catch it. His best games must have been real monsters….

  32. garyman1 says: Nov 6, 2011 8:50 PM

    Rogers is so good it’s scary… The defense is hacking me off a little. Too many blown coverages and big plays. Mike Neal can’t get here fast enough….we really miss Cullen Jenkins. With that said, 8-0 is pretty damn good.

  33. johngaltwho says: Nov 6, 2011 8:50 PM

    Packers secondary does need some work. Burnett will likely be more effective when he has use of two hands. Bishop struggles in coverage. The haters can have at it, but I try to be an impartial observer of the refs, but in this game, lets just say, the zebras could have done a better job.

  34. Little Earthquake says: Nov 6, 2011 8:56 PM

    I’d love every game to be 31-3 but I’ll take 45-38 on the road vs. San Diego. Besides, it was an entertaining game. The Packers had to show they could win a tight game.

  35. deconjonesbitchslap says: Nov 6, 2011 8:56 PM

    i cannot think of a QB more overrated the past 5 years than Phillip Rivers.

  36. pack1980 says: Nov 6, 2011 8:59 PM

    I’ll be the first to admit frustration on the defensive side of the football and today was far from textbook, but 45 points is going to beat any NFL team every time out. Not many teams in the league can hang 45 on a given Sunday. Until someone can prove they will outscore the Packers, they will be the favorites to repeat. Weather or not they go undefeated is irrelevant. All they need to do is grab the #1 seed in the playoffs and that should be their only goal right now. I don’t see a team that will be able to stop this offense come playoff time. And for those Niners fans out there, remember who your QB is. Not only are they playing in the weakest division in football, they will not get very far in the playoffs scoring under 20 points a game.

  37. imjinbrdgr says: Nov 6, 2011 9:04 PM

    cakemixa says: Nov 6, 2011 7:41 PM

    Class = giving up 38 points? And barely winning when your opponent gift wraps you TWO pick-6s?
    ===============================

    I agree 100% You make great points. To do all that and and still WIN=CLASS!!!

  38. tangysizzl says: Nov 6, 2011 9:08 PM

    Well they always keep it interesting. Fun games to watch but very stressful if your a Packer fan.

    The Packers defense thrives on turnovers, when they run into a team who doesn’t turn the ball over thats the best chance to beat them.

    Someone on the team always seems to step up when they need it most and they find a way to win the game

    Its a beautiful thing.

  39. threedeep1998 says: Nov 6, 2011 9:08 PM

    So this is what happens when Packers play a decent QB? Your defense will fail you in the playoffs. Class of the NFL? Still the most obnoxious fans

  40. lilrob10201 says: Nov 6, 2011 9:15 PM

    Just know that defense wins superbowls.Like the Packers for an example they had an elite D last season and won the superbowl last season.Why do you think we haven’t heard from the Pats for awhile ?

  41. rugdog100 says: Nov 6, 2011 9:22 PM

    I knew Michael David Smith was the author of this article… lol. Packers = No Defense, No Run Game. They’ll lose next Monday night.

  42. sterling8484 says: Nov 6, 2011 9:29 PM

    Be sure to check in next week after we are 9-0, and talk about how beatable we are. Without the fluke onside recovery this game never would have seemed as close.

  43. 1stngoal says: Nov 6, 2011 9:33 PM

    The Packer defense was obviously the weak link today, on the other hand it was the 3 picks by the defense that essentially won the game, two pick 6′s and one to seal the win. I’ve been saying all year that the Packers lack of an effective pass rush from someone other than number 52 is going to catch up with them.
    Today it almost did.

    Hopefully the return of Zombo, So’oto, and Neal can begin turning things around for the second half of the season and the stretch run to the playoffs…

  44. qoojo says: Nov 6, 2011 9:37 PM

    Hard to take the packers serious with that defense. It’s fine for winning in the regular season, but it’s hard to see them winning a superbowl with it. The offense has to play perfect for them to win.

  45. teal379 says: Nov 6, 2011 9:41 PM

    threedeep1998 says:
    Nov 6, 2011 9:08 PM
    So this is what happens when Packers play a decent QB? Your defense will fail you in the playoffs. Class of the NFL? Still the most obnoxious fans
    ******************************************

    Define “fail you” because no one’s put a D down yet that can stop Aaron.

    D can fail all day long because EACH AND EVERY D they’ve played so far this year has failed – play offs or not – not a single one has “won” against Aaron and that offense.

    Waiting for someone else’s D to NOT fail and stop the Packers. Chargers were #5 defense in the league – Aaron hung 4 TDs, no INT’s, 81 completion percentage and a PR in the 145 range.

    The Packers came in #28 and they got 3 take aways with 14 points scored.

  46. judsonjr says: Nov 6, 2011 9:42 PM

    Seems like the biggest weakness is the defensive line in sure-fire passing situations. They just don’t have anyone that can put pressure on the QB.

    In addition, they seemed to be getting a bit cute on their coverages which both led to 3 picks (+3 more near picks), and seemed to lead to a lot of blown coverages with guys thinking they had help over the top.

  47. dvdman123 says: Nov 6, 2011 9:51 PM

    Pack one and done in the playoffs. They’re defense will fail them eventually them in the playoffs to cost them a game.

  48. kennyrogerschicken says: Nov 6, 2011 9:52 PM

    threedeep1998 says: Nov 6, 2011 9:08 PM

    So this is what happens when Packers play a decent QB? Your defense will fail you in the playoffs. Class of the NFL? Still the most obnoxious fans

    —————————

    I guess they played New Orleans, Atlanta, and Chicago without their starting quarterbacks, huh?

    And an “obnoxious fans” comment coming from a Vikings fan is hilarious.

  49. pack13queens0 says: Nov 6, 2011 9:54 PM

    Defense looked rusty but next week should be no problem with the Queens. A-Rod proved once again why he is MVP & should win another Player of the Week award. And with how poor the Queens secondary is, A-Rod could end up with a completion percentage of 100% & a passer rating of 158.3 to go along with it.

  50. thejuddstir says: Nov 6, 2011 10:06 PM

    I watched this game and while I admit the Packers have an awesome offense, they wouldn’t have won this game without the officials help. While Packer fans would disagree, I have my doubts if Woodson isn’t cut next year. It’s quite clear that his age has caught up with him and he can’t even cover a slow TE without holding him.

  51. canadianvikingfaniii says: Nov 6, 2011 10:10 PM

    Greenbay’s pass defence is terrible, but they manage because their corners and safeties aren’t afraid to try and make a play on the ball. It may cost them but tthe aggressiveness almost assures them one or two picks that end up crucial. Either way, bad defence or not you still have to contend with Aaron Rodgers.

    The only way to stop him is get pressure with as little blitzing, mainly four man fronts and with as many cover guys as you can get and force him to check down and or get sacked. Even then the guy can still tear you a new one. It almost doesn’t even seem fair for how good and much more improved Rodgers is this year compared to his other great years.

  52. gb4mn0 says: Nov 6, 2011 10:11 PM

    Pack 8-0 That is the one and only stat that matters. All the other stats and speculations of ifs, ands or buts are simply fodder for the cannons of those envious, slimy toads that desire your doom. It’s easy for any bottom feeding pompous hater to play Monday morning QB.

  53. teal379 says: Nov 6, 2011 10:16 PM

    dvdman123 says:
    Nov 6, 2011 9:51 PM
    Pack one and done in the playoffs. They’re defense will fail them eventually them in the playoffs to cost them a game.

    ********************************************

    Until you can find an Offense that can score more than GB can – they roll. So far no offense can score enough. GB leads the league in points per game and today widened that just a bit.

    145+ PR, 4 TDs and 81% completion against the #5 D in the league.

    The Packers #28 D got 14 points of their own and 3 INTs.

    Show me a team that woulda hung 50 on them today and NOT allowed GB to score 51.

    We’re all waiting………

  54. seatownballers says: Nov 6, 2011 10:20 PM

    Packers are steam rolling. Honestly, can anyone see this gb finishing any worse than 14-2?
    They aint going undefeated. Face it. They are just giving up too many points. Folks, its looking like a superbowl rematch, and a superbowl repeat. I’m not even a fan, just a realistic observer

  55. badfish6907 says: Nov 6, 2011 10:20 PM

    There is not a Packer fan in Green Bay that is not concerned about the defense and the lack of pass rush. It sure is fun watching Aaron play QB though.

  56. badfish6907 says: Nov 6, 2011 10:26 PM

    One last thing I will say about the defense. Yeah they may look like swiss cheese at times, but the do have a knack of making plays when it is most critical. Not sure how long that can last though. They need a viable pass rush opposite Mathews. Walden is not the answer. Not sure about Zombo either. They probably should of re-signed Cullen. Hopefully Neal can contribute, but it will take him a couple games before he makes an impact I think.

  57. MCxShow says: Nov 6, 2011 10:29 PM

    No team is as consistent week in and week out, and Aaron Rodgers is having arguably the most efficient season of any quarterback ever. Unless the Giants beat them, 19-0 is a real possibility.

  58. The Phantom Stranger says: Nov 6, 2011 10:34 PM

    I was glad the Packers won because no way would they lose two games in a row. Now the Vikings have a chance next week! I feel like Lloyd Christmas:

    “So you’re telling me there’s a chance…”

  59. thatswhatimsayin says: Nov 6, 2011 10:37 PM

    These are the same fans that actually believe Vince Lombardi walks the sideline at Lambeau Field. I learned a long time ago that you can’t argue with delusional Packer fans. The Packers are a good team, but the NFL does stand for “not for long”. The fall from this height is sooo painful. Just ask Colts fans.

  60. houndog50 says: Nov 6, 2011 10:57 PM

    Phillips gave up ONE (1) pick six, to Peprah.
    The second one was all Tramon Williams, he stole it, a great play! That said, the secondary needs a lot of work, I doubt they can keep winning without some serious improvement.

  61. hawks49 says: Nov 6, 2011 10:57 PM

    @pack1980

    And for those Niners fans out there, remember who your QB is. Not only are they playing in the weakest division in football, they will not get very far in the playoffs scoring under 20 points a game.

    ——————

    The Niners have the #1 defense in the league, they are 8th in scoring int he NFL and have the most efficient offense in the league. We score a point every 11 yards we gain.

    Don’t bother with this easy division stuff. We have played 8 games and only one against our division.

    I wish we played the Packers in the regular season (who have not played a real defense all year). We already know you wouldn’t be able to run the ball worth a damn in the game. Rodgers is awesome but I don’t know how he would do against an actual physical defense with a pass rush.

  62. stevenfbrackett says: Nov 6, 2011 11:00 PM

    “Rivers did a lot right — he completed 26 of 46 passes”

    That a 56.5% completion rate. Better than he’s been doing, to be sure, but compared to Rodger’s 80.7%, it falls flat — especially considering that Rivers interceptions in this game alone is equal to Rodger’s #of interceptions for the freakin’ year!

    That’s not to say there isn’t room for real improvement on the defensive side, but they always manage to bring just enough there – so far. But they have to get beyond ‘just enough’.

    As for the comment above that “With Farve they would be 9-0″ can someone explain that to me since, A:) Farve took way too many reckless chances that came back to bite his teams in the butt and B:) They’ve only played 8 games…….

    And before I end this – let’s all take a moment to recognize the superior skill of Mason Crosby who yet again broke his own franchise record for the most consecutive successful field goals – 23 and counting, baby. And textbook perfect, right down the middle every time – and oh yeah, twice during that streak he tied the franchise distance record, too.

  63. keeley2 says: Nov 6, 2011 11:31 PM

    To all you haters out there – keep on hatin’. We prefer to keep on winnin’.

  64. shaggytoodle says: Nov 6, 2011 11:35 PM

    hawks49 says:
    Nov 6, 2011 10:57 PM

    Don’t bother with this easy division stuff. We have played 8 games and only one against our division.
    ________

    Now I know you can only play whos schedueled for you that week and the teams job is to go out and get the win.

    SF has beat only 2 playoff teams this year one which got in with a losing record last season, and I believe they have only beat 2 potential playoff teams this year.

    GB has beat 3 playoff teams from last season and what I guess would be 2 potential post season teams this year as well.

    I wouldn’t thump your chest over beating teams like Cle. and Wash, if I were you though.

  65. expatpack says: Nov 6, 2011 11:38 PM

    “With Farve they would be 9-0″ can someone explain that to me?
    —————————————
    Obviously you’re not a golfer.

  66. grizzle4 says: Nov 6, 2011 11:44 PM

    From what I saw, the refs had a fair number of points on them. Based on that…who know what would have been the final score? Shame it had to come to that, but Rodgers et al seem to be the new Brady & Manning. Too bad, thought he was better than Farve before today. And I thought I heard something about Green Bay having classy fans? Big mistake…maybe the fans that are actually in Green Bay are okay, but the wannabees lurking elsewhere seem heinous!

  67. jessethegreat says: Nov 6, 2011 11:53 PM

    lilrob10201 says:
    Nov 6, 2011 9:15 PM
    Just know that defense wins superbowls.Like the Packers for an example they had an elite D last season and won the superbowl last season.Why do you think we haven’t heard from the Pats for awhile ?
    ————————————————
    irrational untrue statement. name me one defense that won a superbowl? take away the points an offense scores, no defense will win.
    but.but.but.but the Packers defense scored 2 touchdowns today. true. but take away the offense’s points the defense loses the game. I would rather have a great offense and a passable defense than a great defense and a passable offense. More often than not, the great offense will take advantage. go back to the 1960′s. OFFENSE WINS every time. Defense just keeps the other team from keeping up.

  68. bostonbias says: Nov 7, 2011 12:16 AM

    I guess class does not have anything to do with taunting the other team after any possible play that you make.

  69. jeff33u says: Nov 7, 2011 12:32 AM

    [i]The Niners have the #1 defense in the league, they are 8th in scoring int he NFL and have the most efficient offense in the league. We score a point every 11 yards we gain.[/i]

    This is my first time commenting here, usually I just read what people have to say, but I couldn’t help responding to this sheer lunacy. The Niners have the most efficient offense in the league? That is HILARIOUS!!! Perhaps Rodgers and his all-time-best passer rating might have something to say about that…..The Pack could probably still go 13-3 or better even if they didn’t keep a punter!

  70. jeff33u says: Nov 7, 2011 12:38 AM

    One other thing – they are 8th in the league in scoring, but the Packers are 1st based on points per game. And who cares about the ratio of yards to points scored? That just means you get good field position from your defense and special teams and don’t have to go as far to score. The 49ers are much improved, their defense is fantastic, but their offense is WAY less explosive and efficient than Green Bay’s. They are capable of upsetting Green Bay, but only a lunatic would claim their offense was even in the same ballpark.

  71. brewdogg says: Nov 7, 2011 12:56 AM

    Two cents from a Vikings fan
    (that should set off alarm bells….)

    Rodgers and the offense is making this whole thing look easy. It’s easy for someone watching them play to think “they can’t keep that up”, but as long as they are, I think you have to assume that they will continue to score however much they need to.

    The defense needs work. Whatever the reason may be, the banged-up secondary, missing Jenkins up front, teams finding ways to expose the flaws that Capers did so well in covering up last year….they just plain are not a solid unit right now.

    That being said…. Good teams find a way to win. Regardless of the final score, what matters is whether a team hangs a W or not. Right now, they are getting it done. But I have seen something like this before…. Packer fans aren’t going to like hearing this, but I think you should probably plant it in the back of your head, just to prepare yourselves.

    ’98 Vikings

  72. brewdogg says: Nov 7, 2011 1:14 AM

    jessethegreat says:
    Nov 6, 2011 11:53 PM
    lilrob10201 says:
    Nov 6, 2011 9:15 PM
    Just know that defense wins superbowls.Like the Packers for an example they had an elite D last season and won the superbowl last season.Why do you think we haven’t heard from the Pats for awhile ?
    ————————————————
    irrational untrue statement. name me one defense that won a superbowl? take away the points an offense scores, no defense will win.
    but.but.but.but the Packers defense scored 2 touchdowns today. true. but take away the offense’s points the defense loses the game. I would rather have a great offense and a passable defense than a great defense and a passable offense. More often than not, the great offense will take advantage. go back to the 1960′s. OFFENSE WINS every time. Defense just keeps the other team from keeping up.
    ———————-

    Ummm…okay…..

    “take away the points an offense scores, no defense wins”

    You have this backwards. If the offense didn’t play at all, the defense could still win the game. Pick-6s, safeties, and not allowing the opposing offense to score. If the defense didn’t play at all, one mistake by the offense, like an INT, fumble, dropped pass, anything that stops the offense from scoring a TD would effectively end the game. To put it more simply, if the other team doesn’t score a single point, how many points do you need to score to win?

    “name me one defense that won a super bowl”

    Well, there was this one Baltimore Ravens team….. And this Patriots offense that everyone thought was unstoppable until the Giants, well, stopped them.

    You are entitled to your opinion, of course, but conventional wisdom (and logic) disagrees with you. As will most fans, regardless of sport.

  73. Foresight2011 says: Nov 7, 2011 2:06 AM

    The Charger fans should just be embarrassed. Don’t even show up to PFT any more. The Packers forced your team into a silent count in your own stadium. Its not like there is a whole lot to do there. Where was all the Charger fans at in San Deigo, Sea World?

  74. packmanfan says: Nov 7, 2011 4:08 AM

    So far the ONLY ONES who I see complaining about the Packers D are the fans themselves.
    The media is keeping quiet about it and not having any doubts about the Pack. The complainers could learn from that.

  75. bealeman says: Nov 7, 2011 4:30 AM

    Two reasons this game was even close: McCarthy’s 2nd-half ‘let’s run out the clock’ scheme and a fluke on-side kick recovery. If McCarthy doesn’t take his foot off the gas (again!), we woulda hung 60 on ‘em. I hate it when he thinks he can run out the clock in the 2nd quarter!

  76. childressrulz says: Nov 7, 2011 5:06 AM

    I don’t know what the fans of other teams want? You came to this web page and started talking smack. Most Packer fans I know are very realistic about our defense. The problem for most of you haters is the Packer offense. You had better score touchdowns pretty much every possession is you want to even have a remote chance of winning. Packer defense did not come on until the second half last year as well. We just like our teams chances. I also saw somebody say defense wins championships. Not sure that is true anymore.

  77. jerruhjones21 says: Nov 7, 2011 6:42 AM

    j972 says:
    Nov 6, 2011 8:12 PM
    If Favre was still Green Bay’s QB, the packers would be 9-0 right now.

    ——————————————–

    Whatever you are smoking, please pass it along Bogart…

  78. tsi4431 says: Nov 7, 2011 7:18 AM

    Packer’s won’t go undefeated, because there is no way we are going to keep Rodgers, Matthews, and Woodson in all game once we clinch the playoffs. The last game against the Lions we will not win. The Lions will be trying for a WC spot and we will be resting our starters.

    Our Defense are “ball hawks” we win by turnovers. Packers are #1 in turnovers for a reason.

    New Orleans Saints won there Super Bowl with the exact type defense.

  79. tjg25 says: Nov 7, 2011 10:54 AM

    GB had a 136 yards and 5.2 yards per carry that’s a pretty good rushing day for a team with no running game I think. The D consistency blows but the big plays are there and they’ve made stops when necessary oh and the unstoppable offense doesn’t hurt.

  80. shieldsisland37 says: Nov 7, 2011 11:46 AM

    The Packers have no pass rush. Are letting Rodgers get hit too much. However, they are still 8-0. What does that say about how good they are the state of the rest of the league. They are winning with big problems. They can clean up pass protection and the defense. So there is no cause for concern and they are the favorite to repeat. Now thats all of right this second. If the golden boy goes down, then its all over. Rodgers is so good that he can cover up mistakes. Without him, this team falls apart. Much like what we are seeing out of the colts this year. It is a QB league.

  81. twesty85 says: Nov 7, 2011 1:23 PM

    to all packers fans:

    your team beat the vikings by ONLY 1 touchdown. enough said.

  82. shaggytoodle says: Nov 7, 2011 5:43 PM

    twesty85 says:
    Nov 7, 2011 1:23 PM
    to all packers fans:

    your team beat the vikings by ONLY 1 touchdown. enough said.
    ______________________

    How many points have the Packers lost by this season?

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